Comments on: The Gulf oil slick has a tail, and that's bad http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: querent http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793363 querent Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793363 "where fertilizer runoff has already created a deadness." I'm guessing you have never been there? “where fertilizer runoff has already created a deadness.”

I’m guessing you have never been there?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793108 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793108 Just like Firefighters rush to stop the fire as soon as home is caught on Fire, so should the Government's or Bp's action be to shutdown the leak. Not sure what is taking so long. (So many days !) Who makes what decision. Even a small child can address such issues. Atleast ACT NOW. Save PLANET, then you are welcome to think business. Just like Firefighters rush to stop the fire as soon as home is caught on Fire, so should the Government’s or Bp’s action be to shutdown the leak. Not sure what is taking so long. (So many days !) Who makes what decision. Even a small child can address such issues.

Atleast ACT NOW.
Save PLANET, then you are welcome to think business.

]]> By: ultranaut http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793111 ultranaut Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793111 The future will look back on our civilization as an extinction event. The future will look back on our civilization as an extinction event.

]]> By: imajication http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793112 imajication Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793112 That's it, we killed the Atlantic. Sorry, Earth. That’s it, we killed the Atlantic. Sorry, Earth.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793378 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793378 Is this a pretty solid application of Chaos Theory? I've been doing some searches on anyone (amateurs, experts, whoever) and can't find anything as far as people attempting or even talking about it. I know it's not at all an open-and-shut solution and Chaos has has some of the wind taken out of it's sails over the years, but this seems right in its wheelhouse... or not? Is this a pretty solid application of Chaos Theory? I’ve been doing some searches on anyone (amateurs, experts, whoever) and can’t find anything as far as people attempting or even talking about it.

I know it’s not at all an open-and-shut solution and Chaos has has some of the wind taken out of it’s sails over the years, but this seems right in its wheelhouse… or not?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793132 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793132 It amazes me how quiet the GOVERNMENT is at the moment. It's been a month and nothing it's done to clean this mess and in the mean time all we hear is BP will pay for all damages. Are you kidding me this clean up will take yrs and yrs to clean up not only in the gulf but the Atlantic to. Not to mention how many sea animals will die for the reckless behavior those people did are are still doing. It amazes me how quiet the GOVERNMENT is at the moment. It’s been a month and nothing it’s done to clean this mess and in the mean time all we hear is BP will pay for all damages. Are you kidding me this clean up will take yrs and yrs to clean up not only in the gulf but the Atlantic to. Not to mention how many sea animals will die for the reckless behavior those people did are are still doing.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793133 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793133 Why don't we just kick BP out of the country? Why don’t we just kick BP out of the country?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-794687 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794687 The oil well sits right in the area that will let the oil hit south padre and the gulf stream. Furthermore, if you look at BP's own documentation on this site, they say that this well "could" produce over 160000 barrels of oil PER DAY if it were allowed to just flow wide open. (uncontrolled open discharge) The application goes on to say that the resources that they need to clean up the mess should there be a blowout are right there on the gulf and they can get it cleaned up as much as is practically possible... Now they want to go to houston to go to court on this. The victims of this fiasco will have to travel to another state to argue they have been damaged but BP says that is in the interests of justice. It will be closer to BP's offices, and that's going to be more convenient. The real reason is far more nefarious, of course. Good ole boy network, increases your chance for a favorable judgement. Also, it keeps those pesky plantiff witnesses jumping when you game the legal system from your backyard instead of theirs... once again, (expletive deleted) The oil well sits right in the area that will let the oil hit south padre and the gulf stream.

Furthermore, if you look at BP’s own documentation on this site, they say that this well “could” produce over 160000 barrels of oil PER DAY if it were allowed to just flow wide open. (uncontrolled open discharge) The application goes on to say that the resources that they need to clean up the mess should there be a blowout are right there on the gulf and they can get it cleaned up as much as is practically possible…

Now they want to go to houston to go to court on this. The victims of this fiasco will have to travel to another state to argue they have been damaged but BP says that is in the interests of justice. It will be closer to BP’s offices, and that’s going to be more convenient.

The real reason is far more nefarious, of course.
Good ole boy network, increases your chance for a favorable judgement. Also, it keeps those pesky plantiff witnesses jumping when you game the legal system from your backyard instead of theirs…

once again,

(expletive deleted)

]]> By: lewis stoole http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793412 lewis stoole Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793412 it's not all that bad. there are 19,998 platforms out there that have not exploded in the past year--that is quite a safety record! 2 bad apples shouldn't spoil the bunch. and all of that oil on the water means jobs. that's the map i see. jobs. so drill, drill, drill. we got to get that oil. without it, we wouldn't have had cars, the industrial revolution and a prosperous nation. love that landrieu!!! if only others had here positive attitude. grey skies are gonna clear up, put on a happy face...lot dot dee dee dah it’s not all that bad. there are 19,998 platforms out there that have not exploded in the past year–that is quite a safety record! 2 bad apples shouldn’t spoil the bunch. and all of that oil on the water means jobs. that’s the map i see. jobs. so drill, drill, drill. we got to get that oil. without it, we wouldn’t have had cars, the industrial revolution and a prosperous nation. love that landrieu!!! if only others had here positive attitude. grey skies are gonna clear up, put on a happy face…lot dot dee dee dah

]]> By: ADavies http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793159 ADavies Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793159 Ok, well, at least this will put an end to off shore drilling. Right? I mean, can it get more obvious? Ok, well, at least this will put an end to off shore drilling. Right? I mean, can it get more obvious?

]]> By: CarHelp http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793421 CarHelp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793421 Fortunately, there is a comprehensive list of VERY viable solutons: http://bit.ly/9hI65C :: Note my sarcastic tone :: Fortunately, there is a comprehensive list of VERY viable solutons: http://bit.ly/9hI65C

:: Note my sarcastic tone ::

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793173 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793173 RT @imajication Sorry, Earth RT @imajication Sorry, Earth

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793179 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793179 Thank god this happened in the gulf, where fertilizer runoff has already created a deadness. Thank god this happened in the gulf, where fertilizer runoff has already created a deadness.

]]> By: Stefan Jones http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793181 Stefan Jones Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793181 Maybe if Rush Limbaugh got covered in oil and died of shock while being scrubbed clean by biologists. Maybe if Rush Limbaugh got covered in oil and died of shock while being scrubbed clean by biologists.

]]> By: VagabondAstronomer http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793444 VagabondAstronomer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793444 The greatest likelihood of Rush getting covered is when he comes to the surface to breath, leviathan that he is. Someone should check me on this, but if I remember right, there are several components to the Loop Current, one of which flows counter-clockwise. We could effectively see the spill split and hit both the western Gulf and also pass through the Straits of Florida into the Atlantic. Shock and awe on the ecosystem. Yay BP. The greatest likelihood of Rush getting covered is when he comes to the surface to breath, leviathan that he is.
Someone should check me on this, but if I remember right, there are several components to the Loop Current, one of which flows counter-clockwise. We could effectively see the spill split and hit both the western Gulf and also pass through the Straits of Florida into the Atlantic.
Shock and awe on the ecosystem.
Yay BP.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793200 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793200 Unfortunately, this is all I come away from this whole event with. Above all, its depressing that we're even here. Unfortunately, this is all I come away from this whole event with. Above all, its depressing that we’re even here.

]]> By: tvonkreuz http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-792955 tvonkreuz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-792955 URGENT CALL for awareness and higher perception levels of ourselves as a species! Deadline: now. URGENT CALL for awareness and higher perception levels of ourselves as a species! Deadline: now.

]]> By: Jack Daniel http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-792963 Jack Daniel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-792963 As a South Floridian, I can't express how much this really sucks. The sludge has hit the fan. As a South Floridian, I can’t express how much this really sucks.
The sludge has hit the fan.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-800137 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-800137 I'll miss eating popcorn shrimp. :'-( I’ll miss eating popcorn shrimp. :’-(

]]> By: J France http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-794770 J France Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794770 We can all hope, dream, and be wildly, foolishly optimistic. Ain't going to happen, though. We can all hope, dream, and be wildly, foolishly optimistic.

Ain’t going to happen, though.

]]> By: mdh http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-792994 mdh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-792994 what sucks is that the sheen is a fraction of what has spilled. what sucks is that the sheen is a fraction of what has spilled.

]]> By: GeekMan http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-792997 GeekMan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-792997 On my blog, I've been aggregating a lot of stories from this spill. I don't tend to be a conspiracy theorist, but I'm of the mind that the spill is much worse than BP is making it out to be. It's already a widely held belief that 10 times as much oil may be spilling from the well than the "5,000 barrels a day" as quoted by BP. It's also known that the huge plumes of oil below the surface will be much more damaging than the media-unfreidnly slick (where cleanup efforts are focused). But the big worry is that the sand and other particles in the high-pressure stream oil will wear away the wellhead over time (Ixtoc I took nine months to stop fully). The more damage to the wellhead, the more oil spills out, and the Loop Current sprays it into the Atlantic Ocean. With enough oil, this could cause serious ecological damage which may very well mean a reduction, if not a moratorium, on fishing in the Atlantic ocean. Unlikely? Maybe. But also plausible. The consequences are serious enough that we need to stop this spill as quickly as possible, and then seriously reconsider offshore drilling from here on. On my blog, I’ve been aggregating a lot of stories from this spill. I don’t tend to be a conspiracy theorist, but I’m of the mind that the spill is much worse than BP is making it out to be. It’s already a widely held belief that 10 times as much oil may be spilling from the well than the “5,000 barrels a day” as quoted by BP. It’s also known that the huge plumes of oil below the surface will be much more damaging than the media-unfreidnly slick (where cleanup efforts are focused).

But the big worry is that the sand and other particles in the high-pressure stream oil will wear away the wellhead over time (Ixtoc I took nine months to stop fully). The more damage to the wellhead, the more oil spills out, and the Loop Current sprays it into the Atlantic Ocean. With enough oil, this could cause serious ecological damage which may very well mean a reduction, if not a moratorium, on fishing in the Atlantic ocean.

Unlikely? Maybe. But also plausible. The consequences are serious enough that we need to stop this spill as quickly as possible, and then seriously reconsider offshore drilling from here on.

]]> By: ablebody http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793259 ablebody Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793259 kinda reminds me of the rain barrel i created. the overflow hose ducks under my fence and empties into my neighbors driveway. my flooding problem solved! kinda reminds me of the rain barrel i created. the overflow hose ducks under my fence and empties into my neighbors driveway. my flooding problem solved!

]]> By: papyromancer http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793775 papyromancer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793775 Wow, anybody want to work on an open video documentary of the coastline? I'm a 4 hour drive away. Send me gas money and questions and I'll send back video. Wow, anybody want to work on an open video documentary of the coastline?

I’m a 4 hour drive away. Send me gas money and questions and I’ll send back video.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793274 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793274 I've read that there is enough oil in this deposit to kill every organism in the ocean. I’ve read that there is enough oil in this deposit to kill every organism in the ocean.

]]> By: eliba http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793019 eliba Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793019 This whole thing is so. freaking. depressing. This whole thing is so. freaking. depressing.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793027 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793027 Okay, I've had it, I am going to park my car and walk the 24 miles one way to work. I wish someone somewhere would get over the drill baby drill mentality and get serious about alternative energy options -- then we can leave all of that oil in the ground. Okay, I’ve had it, I am going to park my car and walk the 24 miles one way to work. I wish someone somewhere would get over the drill baby drill mentality and get serious about alternative energy options — then we can leave all of that oil in the ground.

]]> By: querent http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793293 querent Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793293 I renew my call for all to do what you can to BOYCOTT BIG OIL. Bear in mind that this is a finite resource, and we WILL have to transition off eventually. Why not now? The ocean is a kind of spiritual symbol to me. It is beautiful. This is very much not beautiful. I renew my call for all to do what you can to BOYCOTT BIG OIL.

Bear in mind that this is a finite resource, and we WILL have to transition off eventually. Why not now?

The ocean is a kind of spiritual symbol to me. It is beautiful. This is very much not beautiful.

]]> By: spot-ffm http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793048 spot-ffm Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793048 does this mean it´s gonna wipe out those hippie turtoises from finding-nemo? does this mean it´s gonna wipe out those hippie turtoises from finding-nemo?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/20/the-gulf-oil-slick-h.html#comment-793058 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793058 Now BP has taken to ordering the media around when they go to get the story of large scale arrivals of oil on La beaches. Today they say that they are getting 5000 barrels of oil from the leaking well, but they are not showing video of the well. Why? (Because it is leaking more than that, and they do not have control of it yet.) Once they get the leak plugged up, then they can say whatever they want about the quantity of oil spilled because they control the information about the blowout. This company has refused to "come clean" (Yeah, I know, bad pun.) about the true nature of the oil coming out of that hole. If they gave out all of the information that they have we might not be able to put an exact figure on the size of this spill, but we would find out that it is MUCH bigger than they let on. This is how it is done. Deny anything. Promise to do better. Say you are sorry. Claim that it was not a preventable incident. Pay a token fine. Continue to haul in an insane amount of profit. Ask for government assistance because it is a new fiscal year and now last years profits are gone. Repeat as needed. (expletive deleted) Now BP has taken to ordering the media around when they go to get the story of large scale arrivals of oil on La beaches. Today they say that they are getting 5000 barrels of oil from the leaking well, but they are not showing video of the well.

Why? (Because it is leaking more than that, and they do not have control of it yet.) Once they get the leak plugged up, then they can say whatever they want about the quantity of oil spilled because they control the information about the blowout. This company has refused to “come clean” (Yeah, I know, bad pun.) about the true nature of the oil coming out of that hole. If they gave out all of the information that they have we might not be able to put an exact figure on the size of this spill, but we would find out that it is MUCH bigger than they let on.

This is how it is done. Deny anything. Promise to do better. Say you are sorry. Claim that it was not a preventable incident. Pay a token fine. Continue to haul in an insane amount of profit. Ask for government assistance because it is a new fiscal year and now last years profits are gone.
Repeat as needed.

(expletive deleted)

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