Comments on: Sugary drinks and their equivalent in junk food http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 10:42:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: J France http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795149 J France Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795149 Cory didn't actually write the article or take the photos linked - RTFA. He could well have made that assumption, and does talk about calories vs sugar. But again, RTFA. If you come this far then I assume you're discussing all the content, with the full context, as laid out at the link for people to read. Cory didn’t actually write the article or take the photos linked – RTFA. He could well have made that assumption, and does talk about calories vs sugar.

But again, RTFA. If you come this far then I assume you’re discussing all the content, with the full context, as laid out at the link for people to read.

]]> By: x99901 http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795163 x99901 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795163 sugar equiv not calorie equiv. wouldn't look all that impressive if this was done in calorie equivalents sugar equiv not calorie equiv. wouldn’t look all that impressive if this was done in calorie equivalents

]]> By: Stooge http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795425 Stooge Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795425 emdubya, I'm alleging the other kind of conspiracy: that they went out of their way to make these drinks look even more unhealthy than they are. The stack of donuts does indeed contain around 280 calories of sugar, which is the same as that contained in a can of Rockstar, but those are the only calories in the can, whereas the donuts contain over 1,000 additional calories of starch and fat. That you should be in any doubt as to what kind of conspiracy I was alleging suggests to me that you were in fact greatly misled by the article, because no nutritionist would ever suggest that the two are equally unhealthy. emdubya, I’m alleging the other kind of conspiracy: that they went out of their way to make these drinks look even more unhealthy than they are. The stack of donuts does indeed contain around 280 calories of sugar, which is the same as that contained in a can of Rockstar, but those are the only calories in the can, whereas the donuts contain over 1,000 additional calories of starch and fat. That you should be in any doubt as to what kind of conspiracy I was alleging suggests to me that you were in fact greatly misled by the article, because no nutritionist would ever suggest that the two are equally unhealthy.

]]> By: Stooge http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795173 Stooge Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795173 J France, of course Cory didn't write the article or take the pictures. A strong case could also be made for claiming that Cory didn't read it either, as no reference to comparing calories from sugar alone survived into his post. The article does its best to hide the meaningless terms of reference it has concocted to justify coming up with what is presumably intended to be shocking imagery. They might just as well have shot a can of this Rockstar goop next to 8 Big Macs or an infinite quantity of French fries, and the comparison would have been just as true and just as useless. This is an example of piss-poor journalism, pure and simple, and Boing Boing would have been better served if Cory had written about it in that light, rather than regurgitating the erroneous conclusions the hacks at Men's Health were so keen to lead their readers to make. J France, of course Cory didn’t write the article or take the pictures. A strong case could also be made for claiming that Cory didn’t read it either, as no reference to comparing calories from sugar alone survived into his post.

The article does its best to hide the meaningless terms of reference it has concocted to justify coming up with what is presumably intended to be shocking imagery. They might just as well have shot a can of this Rockstar goop next to 8 Big Macs or an infinite quantity of French fries, and the comparison would have been just as true and just as useless.

This is an example of piss-poor journalism, pure and simple, and Boing Boing would have been better served if Cory had written about it in that light, rather than regurgitating the erroneous conclusions the hacks at Men’s Health were so keen to lead their readers to make.

]]> By: AirPillo http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794927 AirPillo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794927 It's a little sad that the picture just makes me hungry rather than shocked. It’s a little sad that the picture just makes me hungry rather than shocked.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795696 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795696 It is not comparing calories, as you state. It is comparing sugar content. It is not comparing calories, as you state. It is comparing sugar content.

]]> By: Tim Howland http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794931 Tim Howland Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794931 Unfortunately, the link you're pointing to is a ripoff of a men's health article (word-for-word plagiarism): http://eatthis.menshealth.com/slideshow/20-worst-drinks-america-2010 Unfortunately, the link you’re pointing to is a ripoff of a men’s health article (word-for-word plagiarism):

http://eatthis.menshealth.com/slideshow/20-worst-drinks-america-2010

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794932 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794932 As someone who watches calories, I could not possibly believe that that 1 donut = 46 calories, heck even Krispy Kreme lists a basic glazed at 100 calories. Browsing the rest of the article seems just as out of sorts. The whole article seems a travesty against basic basic math. I'm not saying that being calorie conscious isn't important but that spreading numbers that just aren't true helps no one. As someone who watches calories, I could not possibly believe that that 1 donut = 46 calories, heck even Krispy Kreme lists a basic glazed at 100 calories. Browsing the rest of the article seems just as out of sorts.

The whole article seems a travesty against basic basic math. I’m not saying that being calorie conscious isn’t important but that spreading numbers that just aren’t true helps no one.

]]> By: Ugly Canuck http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794933 Ugly Canuck Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794933 Heavy. Heavy.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794937 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794937 Anon 3 is right, namely because the webpage only takes into account the sugar in the junk food and not e.g. fat. Heck you could say that a coke is equal to the sugar in 15 KFC Doubledowns. That doesn't mean it's as bad for you... Anon 3 is right, namely because the webpage only takes into account the sugar in the junk food and not e.g. fat. Heck you could say that a coke is equal to the sugar in 15 KFC Doubledowns. That doesn’t mean it’s as bad for you…

]]> By: emg72 http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794943 emg72 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794943 #3: That was my first thought, as well, so I also clicked on the article, which doesn't have to do with overall caloric counts, but comparing grams of sugar. So they're saying that a Monster has as much *sugar* as 6 Krispy Kreme donuts, but of course the implication, by putting them next to each other, is that that the Monster is just as bad for you, overall, as 6 donuts. Obviously, Krispy Kremes have a lot going on other than their sugar content -- 12g of fat per donut, for example, let alone all the sugar. But it all just seems to be like the same thing that happened to fat in foods about 10-15 years ago, when suddenly everyone was touting fat-free products -- compensating for lack of taste with increased sugar counts, thus swinging the pendulum back the other way and ending up with situations (and articles) like these. #3: That was my first thought, as well, so I also clicked on the article, which doesn’t have to do with overall caloric counts, but comparing grams of sugar. So they’re saying that a Monster has as much *sugar* as 6 Krispy Kreme donuts, but of course the implication, by putting them next to each other, is that that the Monster is just as bad for you, overall, as 6 donuts. Obviously, Krispy Kremes have a lot going on other than their sugar content — 12g of fat per donut, for example, let alone all the sugar.

But it all just seems to be like the same thing that happened to fat in foods about 10-15 years ago, when suddenly everyone was touting fat-free products — compensating for lack of taste with increased sugar counts, thus swinging the pendulum back the other way and ending up with situations (and articles) like these.

]]> By: jackie31337 http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795460 jackie31337 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795460 What astounds me the most is the serving sizes. I've lived outside of the USA for 12 years now, and I've gotten used to the "super size" drink being 16 ounces (small is 12, regular is about 14). When did drinks get to be 32 ounces?! What astounds me the most is the serving sizes. I’ve lived outside of the USA for 12 years now, and I’ve gotten used to the “super size” drink being 16 ounces (small is 12, regular is about 14). When did drinks get to be 32 ounces?!

]]> By: Bryan Price http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795209 Bryan Price Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795209 I have to call bullshit. According to http://www.shapefit.com/krispykreme.html , the lowest calorie donut is 200. Now while the sugar involved may turn out to be equivalent in refined sugar used in both products (somehow I doubt it), the Krispy Kreme still has at a MINIMUM of 189 calories of carbs, so trying to compare a Rockstar to 6 donuts is complete nonsense. There are only 5 grams of sugar in a donut, leaving 14 grams of other carbs per donut? I have to call bullshit. According to http://www.shapefit.com/krispykreme.html , the lowest calorie donut is 200. Now while the sugar involved may turn out to be equivalent in refined sugar used in both products (somehow I doubt it), the Krispy Kreme still has at a MINIMUM of 189 calories of carbs, so trying to compare a Rockstar to 6 donuts is complete nonsense. There are only 5 grams of sugar in a donut, leaving 14 grams of other carbs per donut?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795728 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795728 They lost me with the Bigfoot Ale as well, first off it's technically a barleywine, not a beer. But that nitpick aside, they go on to compare its calories to Budweiser, Blue Moon and Guinness; three very different types of beer! Then they suggest a Nut Brown Ale as an alternative. Now, I understand that not everyone is as interested in beer as I am, but if you're drinking any barleywine with any sort of frequency, you probably have a specific flavor in mind when you crack open a beer (or barleywine) and a Nut Brown is NOT equivalent to a barleywine. That's like saying "That Sunkist orange soda is bad for you, have this Izze sparkling blackberry soda instead." And while I'm ranting, there's no way that the Bigfoot, which is fairly light for a barley wine, has the most calories (or carbs) of any beer (or barleywine) that is made (or sold, since they included Guinness) in the US. Sam Adams Utopias, for one, most likely has about three times the calories of Bigfoot. Ok, they can leave that one off since it costs about $600 per bottle. But Avery's demon series, "Samael", "The Beast", and "Mephistopheles" all will come in at about double the calories of Bigfoot. Then we look at the tripels and quadrupels, which historically were brewed to have a very high calorie content so that the monks brewing them could subsist on the beer when they were fasting and not allowed to have solid food. I still can't believe they suggested a nut brown ale to replace a barleywine, that's just stupid, they might as well have suggested a MGD 64. They lost me with the Bigfoot Ale as well, first off it’s technically a barleywine, not a beer. But that nitpick aside, they go on to compare its calories to Budweiser, Blue Moon and Guinness; three very different types of beer! Then they suggest a Nut Brown Ale as an alternative. Now, I understand that not everyone is as interested in beer as I am, but if you’re drinking any barleywine with any sort of frequency, you probably have a specific flavor in mind when you crack open a beer (or barleywine) and a Nut Brown is NOT equivalent to a barleywine. That’s like saying “That Sunkist orange soda is bad for you, have this Izze sparkling blackberry soda instead.”

And while I’m ranting, there’s no way that the Bigfoot, which is fairly light for a barley wine, has the most calories (or carbs) of any beer (or barleywine) that is made (or sold, since they included Guinness) in the US. Sam Adams Utopias, for one, most likely has about three times the calories of Bigfoot. Ok, they can leave that one off since it costs about $600 per bottle. But Avery’s demon series, “Samael”, “The Beast”, and “Mephistopheles” all will come in at about double the calories of Bigfoot. Then we look at the tripels and quadrupels, which historically were brewed to have a very high calorie content so that the monks brewing them could subsist on the beer when they were fasting and not allowed to have solid food.

I still can’t believe they suggested a nut brown ale to replace a barleywine, that’s just stupid, they might as well have suggested a MGD 64.

]]> By: Clifton http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794970 Clifton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794970 It depends on which one they're comparing. They're also looking at total calorie count and grams of fat, though not necessarily equating them to that in the food. By the time you get up to #10 or so, you're looking at drinks that have half of a typical recommended daily calorie intake, and with their #1 offender (a particular Cold Stone shake) you're dealing with a drink that has more than a day's recommended calories, and some incredible number of grams of fat. I can't see that being a good thing to drink unless you've just spent 8 hours digging a trench with pick and shovel, and maybe not then. It depends on which one they’re comparing.

They’re also looking at total calorie count and grams of fat, though not necessarily equating them to that in the food. By the time you get up to #10 or so, you’re looking at drinks that have half of a typical recommended daily calorie intake, and with their #1 offender (a particular Cold Stone shake) you’re dealing with a drink that has more than a day’s recommended calories, and some incredible number of grams of fat. I can’t see that being a good thing to drink unless you’ve just spent 8 hours digging a trench with pick and shovel, and maybe not then.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794973 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794973 This Men's Health story is somewhat deceptive: they take the total calories in a drink, calculate the sugar equivalent, and compare that to a given junk food's sugar content alone. But the junk food isn't just sugar, and often has way more total calories than the drink. Example: Rock Star energy drink has 280 calories, which is equivalent to 62 grams of sugar. They then equate that to 6 Krispy Kreme donuts, since each Krispy Kreme donut has 10 grams of sugar. BUT, thanks to the fat in the donuts, there are a total of 1200 calories in 6 Krispys. Not really equivalent, after all! This Men’s Health story is somewhat deceptive:
they take the total calories in a drink, calculate the sugar equivalent, and compare that to a given junk food’s sugar content alone. But the junk food isn’t just sugar, and often has way more total calories than the drink.

Example: Rock Star energy drink has 280 calories, which is equivalent to 62 grams of sugar. They then equate that to 6 Krispy Kreme donuts, since each Krispy Kreme donut has 10 grams of sugar. BUT, thanks to the fat in the donuts, there are a total of 1200 calories in 6 Krispys. Not really equivalent, after all!

]]> By: xyglyx http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794974 xyglyx Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794974 Brain-dead article. It's silly to ignore other refined carbs such as refined flour when comparing the sugar content of foods, as they have similar glycemic indexes. And why single out ascorbic acid as a questionable ingredient? Guess it just sounded scary to the author. Brain-dead article. It’s silly to ignore other refined carbs such as refined flour when comparing the sugar content of foods, as they have similar glycemic indexes. And why single out ascorbic acid as a questionable ingredient? Guess it just sounded scary to the author.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795488 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795488 thing is, calories arent BAD! you need em! you only need a handfull of em tho :) thing is, calories arent BAD! you need em! you only need a handfull of em tho :)

]]> By: Snig http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-794984 Snig Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-794984 They recommend some sugar substitutes which may turn out to be unhealthy. This is not in the nutrasweet toxicity conspiracy theory vein, it's legit nutrition research. There is a body of research on artificial sweeteners to suggest they may be no better than sugary drinks, and may lead to weight gain, as the sweet taste may be messing with the insulin regulation. More research is needed, but interesting. http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v61/n6/abs/1602649a.html Trivia: Rockstar was formulated by the son of Michael Savage, the right wing talk radio <ahem> "person". They recommend some sugar substitutes which may turn out to be unhealthy. This is not in the nutrasweet toxicity conspiracy theory vein, it’s legit nutrition research. There is a body of research on artificial sweeteners to suggest they may be no better than sugary drinks, and may lead to weight gain, as the sweet taste may be messing with the insulin regulation. More research is needed, but interesting.

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v61/n6/abs/1602649a.html

Trivia: Rockstar was formulated by the son of Michael Savage, the right wing talk radio “person”.

]]> By: millrick http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795240 millrick Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795240 no i'm not confused. i'm just amazed that so many people justify their continued consumption of liquid junk-food... i made no suggestion of, or allusion to, any demagoguery at all. no i’m not confused. i’m just amazed that so many people justify their continued consumption of liquid junk-food…

i made no suggestion of, or allusion to, any demagoguery at all.

]]> By: Pantograph http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795243 Pantograph Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795243 Now come on. Piss-poor journalism is perfectly respectable when it confirms your bias. But to my mind these pictures make donuts etc. look like healthy low calorie foods (only 1/6th of a can of soda in an entire donut? I can have at least three extra every day if I switch to drinking water and still lose weight!) Now come on. Piss-poor journalism is perfectly respectable when it confirms your bias.

But to my mind these pictures make donuts etc. look like healthy low calorie foods (only 1/6th of a can of soda in an entire donut? I can have at least three extra every day if I switch to drinking water and still lose weight!)

]]> By: millrick http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795268 millrick Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795268 my point exactly ;) my point exactly
;)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795790 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795790 Just came here to comment about how misleading the article is... but I see you already have that covered! Just a little quick calorie checking tells me: A Reese's Peanut Butter Cup (regular size) is 130 calories, so 20 of them = 2600 calories, not 1498 A Chip's Ahoy Chewy seems to be 120 (or is that for multiple cookies?) so 30 of that is 3600, not 2010 A McDonald's Apple Pie is 250 calories, so 13 of them make up 3250 calories, not 1160 They can disclaim that this is all about sugar calories, but that's pointless; it's quite misleading. The actual calorie counts are by far bad enough; no need to over-dramatize them. Just came here to comment about how misleading the article is… but I see you already have that covered!

Just a little quick calorie checking tells me:

A Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup (regular size) is 130 calories, so 20 of them = 2600 calories, not 1498

A Chip’s Ahoy Chewy seems to be 120 (or is that for multiple cookies?) so 30 of that is 3600, not 2010

A McDonald’s Apple Pie is 250 calories, so 13 of them make up 3250 calories, not 1160

They can disclaim that this is all about sugar calories, but that’s pointless; it’s quite misleading. The actual calorie counts are by far bad enough; no need to over-dramatize them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795030 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795030 Yeah, ascorbic acid is so dangerous that its *lack* leads to disease! (It's better known as Vitamin C, and got its name because it prevents the disease scurvy.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid Yeah, ascorbic acid is so dangerous that its *lack* leads to disease! (It’s better known as Vitamin C, and got its name because it prevents the disease scurvy.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid

]]> By: emdubya http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795288 emdubya Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795288 The only error is in Cory's summary of the article's comparison. The article clearly states that it is comparing the sugar content, not "caloric equivalents" in these food and beverage pairings. Classic case of RTFA. That said, the number one gross-out drink, the Cold Stone PB&C (Gotta Have It size, 24 fl oz), clocks in at over 2,000 calories! If you wanted a caloric equivalent, you could stack up 10 Krispy Kreme original glazed. source: www.krispykreme.com/doughnuts.pdf The only error is in Cory’s summary of the article’s comparison. The article clearly states that it is comparing the sugar content, not “caloric equivalents” in these food and beverage pairings. Classic case of RTFA.

That said, the number one gross-out drink, the Cold Stone PB&C (Gotta Have It size, 24 fl oz), clocks in at over 2,000 calories! If you wanted a caloric equivalent, you could stack up 10 Krispy Kreme original glazed. source: http://www.krispykreme.com/doughnuts.pdf

]]> By: Stooge http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795300 Stooge Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795300 millrick, you are confused, you just don't know what you're confused about :) I know perfectly well you didn't suggest or allude to demagoguery: I did. If there's one thing I hate more than diabetes in a can, it's this kind of barrel-scraping pseudo-journalism. millrick, you are confused, you just don’t know what you’re confused about :)

I know perfectly well you didn’t suggest or allude to demagoguery: I did. If there’s one thing I hate more than diabetes in a can, it’s this kind of barrel-scraping pseudo-journalism.

]]> By: japroach http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795045 japroach Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795045 The one posted a while back was really good, and by good I mean disgusting. http://boingboing.net/2009/05/03/photos-of-food-and-t.html Shows the sugar cube equivalent of the product. The one posted a while back was really good, and by good I mean disgusting.

http://boingboing.net/2009/05/03/photos-of-food-and-t.html

Shows the sugar cube equivalent of the product.

]]> By: Stooge http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795304 Stooge Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795304 emdubya, so can you come up with a reason why someone would choose to compare sugar content rather than total calories for these different types of product? For purpose other than padding out a publication or justifying a photo shoot, I mean. emdubya, so can you come up with a reason why someone would choose to compare sugar content rather than total calories for these different types of product? For purpose other than padding out a publication or justifying a photo shoot, I mean.

]]> By: arlojeremy http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795049 arlojeremy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795049 If you want a better idea of the sugar in your foods, check out this site: http://www.sugarstacks.com/ Keep in mind that at any average non-post meal moment your blood glucose level is about ONE sugar cube, just think about how taxing these items are on your insulin response system. Also keep in mine that the hearthealthywholegrains you eat are just longer chains of sugars that end up in your blood as glucose anyways (albeit over a slower time period). If you want a better idea of the sugar in your foods, check out this site:

http://www.sugarstacks.com/

Keep in mind that at any average non-post meal moment your blood glucose level is about ONE sugar cube, just think about how taxing these items are on your insulin response system.

Also keep in mine that the hearthealthywholegrains you eat are just longer chains of sugars that end up in your blood as glucose anyways (albeit over a slower time period).

]]> By: Zergonapal http://boingboing.net/2010/05/22/sugary-drinks-and-th.html#comment-795051 Zergonapal Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-795051 Still, it makes you reconsider just what you are drinking, the worst thing is, in my opinion, is that drinking a sugared beverage won't necessarily stop the hunger pangs and so you'll probably still have a donut or two as well. Also #5 please don't try and imply the Coke is even remotely ok for anyone. Still, it makes you reconsider just what you are drinking, the worst thing is, in my opinion, is that drinking a sugared beverage won’t necessarily stop the hunger pangs and so you’ll probably still have a donut or two as well.
Also #5 please don’t try and imply the Coke is even remotely ok for anyone.

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