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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797953</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a weakness for your weaknesses.</description>
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		<title>By: AnthonyC</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797954</link>
		<dc:creator>AnthonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only thing this car can do is go fast.&quot;

That&#039;s untrue. It can also accelerate quickly- which is a feature you can use on real roads.
It will ride much better than a cheaper car, and have all sorts of nice goodies and gadgets. It is, in some sense, all toys. That&#039;s what luxuries *are.* People are willing to pay for luxury *because it is luxurious* and enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only thing this car can do is go fast.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s untrue. It can also accelerate quickly- which is a feature you can use on real roads.<br />
It will ride much better than a cheaper car, and have all sorts of nice goodies and gadgets. It is, in some sense, all toys. That&#8217;s what luxuries *are.* People are willing to pay for luxury *because it is luxurious* and enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tenlow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797956</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But who are /you/ to decide how people can spend their money? Why not ban all cars? There&#039;s no reason for anyone to drive, since they can just take the bus or walk. Let&#039;s ban all things that can be used as a form of status symbol, since they&#039;re not actually worthwhile in someone&#039;s opinion. Why not tax everything over the poverty line while we&#039;re at it, since there&#039;s no reason for anyone to make more money than anyone else. There&#039;s no reason for anyone to do anything except the bare minimum to survive, so nobody should ever strive for anything better, right? 

The fact of the matter is these people have money. It&#039;s up to them to decide how they spend it. I bet you&#039;d be up in arms if someone was saying you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to spend your own money on something you enjoy, simply because it&#039;s not the most efficient and cost effective way of doing something. Chill out and let other people live their lives. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But who are /you/ to decide how people can spend their money? Why not ban all cars? There&#8217;s no reason for anyone to drive, since they can just take the bus or walk. Let&#8217;s ban all things that can be used as a form of status symbol, since they&#8217;re not actually worthwhile in someone&#8217;s opinion. Why not tax everything over the poverty line while we&#8217;re at it, since there&#8217;s no reason for anyone to make more money than anyone else. There&#8217;s no reason for anyone to do anything except the bare minimum to survive, so nobody should ever strive for anything better, right? </p>
<p>The fact of the matter is these people have money. It&#8217;s up to them to decide how they spend it. I bet you&#8217;d be up in arms if someone was saying you shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to spend your own money on something you enjoy, simply because it&#8217;s not the most efficient and cost effective way of doing something. Chill out and let other people live their lives. </p>
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		<title>By: Matt J</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797958</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people in the UK don&#039;t do it and there aren&#039;t cars rolling driverless around the streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people in the UK don&#8217;t do it and there aren&#8217;t cars rolling driverless around the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: dr</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798216</link>
		<dc:creator>dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leaving a manual transmission car in gear when parking is in the UK Highway Code.  Rule 252. Now, I don&#039;t know if most UK drivers obey this rule...and likely you don&#039;t know either.  I do know I was tested on it when I took my UK driving test many years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving a manual transmission car in gear when parking is in the UK Highway Code.  Rule 252. Now, I don&#8217;t know if most UK drivers obey this rule&#8230;and likely you don&#8217;t know either.  I do know I was tested on it when I took my UK driving test many years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: KremlinLaptop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797964</link>
		<dc:creator>KremlinLaptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we could say that it does just one thing and if this were true then I&#039;d tell you that it might just do one thing but it does that one thing incredibly well.

That&#039;s not the case though, since it&#039;s a Porsche it means it had some sensible Germans design and build it. Meaning not only is it quick to go fast, it&#039;s also able to be driven every day, used to fetch some groceries and generally used like any other car. It&#039;s just that when you want to say take it to a track, hit its top speed on the autobahn or just dawdle along some nice twisty roads it&#039;ll do that too. So it does a lot of things and it does them very well.

See, personally if I were going to buy a car that&#039;s more fun than what I already own I wouldn&#039;t be NEARLY this sensible. No, I&#039;d be looking for say a Caterham 7, as utilitarian as going fast can ever be and it does it... very, very well.

I&#039;ll admit that&#039;s ridiculous, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s any more ridiculous than my digital camera, all the electric gizmos I own, every vinyl record I have and all the other completely useless things I enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we could say that it does just one thing and if this were true then I&#8217;d tell you that it might just do one thing but it does that one thing incredibly well.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the case though, since it&#8217;s a Porsche it means it had some sensible Germans design and build it. Meaning not only is it quick to go fast, it&#8217;s also able to be driven every day, used to fetch some groceries and generally used like any other car. It&#8217;s just that when you want to say take it to a track, hit its top speed on the autobahn or just dawdle along some nice twisty roads it&#8217;ll do that too. So it does a lot of things and it does them very well.</p>
<p>See, personally if I were going to buy a car that&#8217;s more fun than what I already own I wouldn&#8217;t be NEARLY this sensible. No, I&#8217;d be looking for say a Caterham 7, as utilitarian as going fast can ever be and it does it&#8230; very, very well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit that&#8217;s ridiculous, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s any more ridiculous than my digital camera, all the electric gizmos I own, every vinyl record I have and all the other completely useless things I enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: KremlinLaptop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798222</link>
		<dc:creator>KremlinLaptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t depress the clutch out of routine every single time you reach for the keys in your car then I really have to question whether or not you&#039;re a competent driver.

Why leave it in gear in your garage? So it becomes routine. Why depress the clutch everytime you start a manual car? So it becomes routine and you don&#039;t assume it&#039;s in neutral. Also it&#039;s less work for the starter to do since it doesn&#039;t have to turn the gearbox, good thing to remember if you&#039;ve got a flattish battery, dying starter or some other malady but need to get your car going.

I just think it&#039;s silly to assume the e-brake will work flawlessly no matter what, it tends to be one of the most poorly maintained parts on cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t depress the clutch out of routine every single time you reach for the keys in your car then I really have to question whether or not you&#8217;re a competent driver.</p>
<p>Why leave it in gear in your garage? So it becomes routine. Why depress the clutch everytime you start a manual car? So it becomes routine and you don&#8217;t assume it&#8217;s in neutral. Also it&#8217;s less work for the starter to do since it doesn&#8217;t have to turn the gearbox, good thing to remember if you&#8217;ve got a flattish battery, dying starter or some other malady but need to get your car going.</p>
<p>I just think it&#8217;s silly to assume the e-brake will work flawlessly no matter what, it tends to be one of the most poorly maintained parts on cars.</p>
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		<title>By: KremlinLaptop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797968</link>
		<dc:creator>KremlinLaptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you need is one person parking at the top of a steep hill, dodgy handbrake, doesn&#039;t put it in gear and it rolls on down. Does happen, has happened, it&#039;s safer to put it in gear.

Just because people in the UK are idiots doesn&#039;t mean you have to join in, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you need is one person parking at the top of a steep hill, dodgy handbrake, doesn&#8217;t put it in gear and it rolls on down. Does happen, has happened, it&#8217;s safer to put it in gear.</p>
<p>Just because people in the UK are idiots doesn&#8217;t mean you have to join in, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797974</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a hint: If there&#039;s &quot;Park&quot;, it&#039;s not a manual gearbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a hint: If there&#8217;s &#8220;Park&#8221;, it&#8217;s not a manual gearbox.</p>
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		<title>By: technogeek</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797720</link>
		<dc:creator>technogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First question is why anyone thinks a car is worth $180,000 in the first place, and if so why they allowed a kid within a mile of it, never mind behind the wheel.

The time to think about whether the risk was acceptable was before he accepted the risk. Having done so, it&#039;s _his_ responsibility, not the kid&#039;s.

I have no sympathy. It&#039;s just a car. Maybe it&#039;s worth a tenth of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First question is why anyone thinks a car is worth $180,000 in the first place, and if so why they allowed a kid within a mile of it, never mind behind the wheel.</p>
<p>The time to think about whether the risk was acceptable was before he accepted the risk. Having done so, it&#8217;s _his_ responsibility, not the kid&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I have no sympathy. It&#8217;s just a car. Maybe it&#8217;s worth a tenth of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Pantograph</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797725</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A classic Ferris Bueller moment.</description>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798754</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotsa people handle starting their stick shifts in different ways, but it&#039;s exactly this variance in habits that results in more and more control being taken from drivers with every new model year.

I guess it depends on the car, but I don&#039;t believe cranking with the clutch pedal depressed causes any undue wear &amp; tear.  My &#039;94 Toyota pickup wouldn&#039;t crank if you didn&#039;t depress the pedal fully, whether the shifter was in neutral or not.  That truck got a new clutch put in at 190,000 miles.  We used to have a &#039;74 Renault 12 that wouldn&#039;t crank if you weren&#039;t in neutral... but, being a &#039;74, it also wouldn&#039;t start unless the seatbelts were latched.  Every stick driver I know parks their car in gear (1st when level or facing uphill, reverse when facing downhill) and generally only uses the parking brake when there&#039;s any slope, however mild.  Cramping wheels to the curb is a legal requirement here, but not everyone knows how to do it properly, no matter what transmission they have.  Anyway, I too habitually depress the clutch whenever I start, but that&#039;s because it&#039;s an old habit.  I didn&#039;t always do it on my old Hondas (which didn&#039;t require the pedal to be depressed), but I did habitually make sure I was in neutral.  Thing is, a kid won&#039;t have developed any driving habits, good or bad, by the tender age of 15.

And there&#039;s the rub: the argument shouldn&#039;t really be about what punishment is appropriate for the kid.  He&#039;s a kid, kids do stupid things, and I think his dad and Porsche are handling that aspect of it appropriately: it&#039;s serious, but nowhere near life-wrecking.  No, the big thing is the dad.  He should not have let his kid touch that car.  It was not his permission to give.  Doesn&#039;t matter if he&#039;s got the most careful kids in the world; the car was lent to him for evaluation and review, and thus should have been treated like any other loaned item with value greater than a lawnmower: use it strictly for the intended purpose of the lending, and keep all other hands off.  This was a fairly serious lapse in professionalism, and I do hope the guy has learned that particular lesson well.  I don&#039;t blame the kid too much for this, but the dad definitely should have known better.  My dad certainly would have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotsa people handle starting their stick shifts in different ways, but it&#8217;s exactly this variance in habits that results in more and more control being taken from drivers with every new model year.</p>
<p>I guess it depends on the car, but I don&#8217;t believe cranking with the clutch pedal depressed causes any undue wear &#038; tear.  My &#8217;94 Toyota pickup wouldn&#8217;t crank if you didn&#8217;t depress the pedal fully, whether the shifter was in neutral or not.  That truck got a new clutch put in at 190,000 miles.  We used to have a &#8217;74 Renault 12 that wouldn&#8217;t crank if you weren&#8217;t in neutral&#8230; but, being a &#8217;74, it also wouldn&#8217;t start unless the seatbelts were latched.  Every stick driver I know parks their car in gear (1st when level or facing uphill, reverse when facing downhill) and generally only uses the parking brake when there&#8217;s any slope, however mild.  Cramping wheels to the curb is a legal requirement here, but not everyone knows how to do it properly, no matter what transmission they have.  Anyway, I too habitually depress the clutch whenever I start, but that&#8217;s because it&#8217;s an old habit.  I didn&#8217;t always do it on my old Hondas (which didn&#8217;t require the pedal to be depressed), but I did habitually make sure I was in neutral.  Thing is, a kid won&#8217;t have developed any driving habits, good or bad, by the tender age of 15.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s the rub: the argument shouldn&#8217;t really be about what punishment is appropriate for the kid.  He&#8217;s a kid, kids do stupid things, and I think his dad and Porsche are handling that aspect of it appropriately: it&#8217;s serious, but nowhere near life-wrecking.  No, the big thing is the dad.  He should not have let his kid touch that car.  It was not his permission to give.  Doesn&#8217;t matter if he&#8217;s got the most careful kids in the world; the car was lent to him for evaluation and review, and thus should have been treated like any other loaned item with value greater than a lawnmower: use it strictly for the intended purpose of the lending, and keep all other hands off.  This was a fairly serious lapse in professionalism, and I do hope the guy has learned that particular lesson well.  I don&#8217;t blame the kid too much for this, but the dad definitely should have known better.  My dad certainly would have.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797732</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a big deal, just a 1963 Chevy II, but I learned at 15 that the proper order of things is 1/close the door, 2/shift to reverse and hit the pedal, rather than the other way around. Especially when there are bushes next to the car waiting to rip off the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a big deal, just a 1963 Chevy II, but I learned at 15 that the proper order of things is 1/close the door, 2/shift to reverse and hit the pedal, rather than the other way around. Especially when there are bushes next to the car waiting to rip off the door.</p>
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		<title>By: KremlinLaptop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797733</link>
		<dc:creator>KremlinLaptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a bit of reading it&#039;d be revealed to you that he allowed his son to check out the cars he tests, stereos and that sort of gadgetry.

I&#039;m guessing what happened is that the son gets in the car, puts the key in and means to just switch on the power -- not crank the engine -- but twists the key too much. Car cranks, it&#039;s in gear and it lunges forward since the clutch is out.

And why is the car worth that much? Two hundred mile per hour suspension, brakes, tires rated to withstand that sort of thing for hours on end, advanced electronics, precision engineered parts meant to produce the most. It costs money to design and engineer this sort of thing. Oh and the Porsche badge on the front, that tends to cost you some money too. No, it&#039;s worth more than a tenth of that. It just is.

Would I pay that much money for a Porsche? No, it&#039;s a trumped up volkswagen. Would I pay that much for something else automotive if I had the means? Oh sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a bit of reading it&#8217;d be revealed to you that he allowed his son to check out the cars he tests, stereos and that sort of gadgetry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing what happened is that the son gets in the car, puts the key in and means to just switch on the power &#8212; not crank the engine &#8212; but twists the key too much. Car cranks, it&#8217;s in gear and it lunges forward since the clutch is out.</p>
<p>And why is the car worth that much? Two hundred mile per hour suspension, brakes, tires rated to withstand that sort of thing for hours on end, advanced electronics, precision engineered parts meant to produce the most. It costs money to design and engineer this sort of thing. Oh and the Porsche badge on the front, that tends to cost you some money too. No, it&#8217;s worth more than a tenth of that. It just is.</p>
<p>Would I pay that much money for a Porsche? No, it&#8217;s a trumped up volkswagen. Would I pay that much for something else automotive if I had the means? Oh sure.</p>
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		<title>By: thebelgianpanda</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797990</link>
		<dc:creator>thebelgianpanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the most cringe-worthy part is an auto reviewers son not knowing how to drive stick.

On a side note, the amount of vitriol being spewed at this story because it involves an expensive car is embarrassing.  There things here *should* be true: 
 1) boingboing users have intelligent, balanced debates
 2) Porsche owned the car, not the journalist 
 3) a teenager hopefully learned a valuable lesson.  

Why can&#039;t we work to improve item #1 a bit for this discourse? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the most cringe-worthy part is an auto reviewers son not knowing how to drive stick.</p>
<p>On a side note, the amount of vitriol being spewed at this story because it involves an expensive car is embarrassing.  There things here *should* be true:<br />
 1) boingboing users have intelligent, balanced debates<br />
 2) Porsche owned the car, not the journalist<br />
 3) a teenager hopefully learned a valuable lesson.  </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we work to improve item #1 a bit for this discourse? </p>
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		<title>By: scifijazznik</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797735</link>
		<dc:creator>scifijazznik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know how I know you don&#039;t watch &lt;em&gt;Top Gear&lt;/em&gt;?</description>
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		<title>By: Dewi Morgan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798248</link>
		<dc:creator>Dewi Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[I was signed in less than a day ago, and still it makes me sign in? Sheesh.]

My first thought was &quot;wow, this catalogue of stories of rich kids destroying expensive stuff: this is because they don&#039;t get given responsibilities to match their freedoms.&quot;

But JohnCJ is right: the kid&#039;s *lucky* to have gotten off so lightly (and to get an internship with a racing driver out of the deal!), but he&#039;s doing everything he&#039;s been asked to, to repay his one-second lapse.

To other posters: I&#039;m from the UK, we pretty much all drive manuals here, and yes, any good driver here or in any other country will park a car on a hill in gear and with the wheel turned against the kerb (US: curb). And nobody parks without the handbrake on.

A kid&#039;s not going to have the ingrained reflex of wiggling the shift before raising the clutch, nor even of raising the clutch slowly. Even as an adult, with a car you&#039;re not accustomed to, you might think the stick&#039;s in neutral from waggling when in fact it&#039;s not, and you might raise the clutch faster than the car needs to catch and jerk forward. So, I guess, fair enough.

I *really* like the Porsche guy&#039;s, Mr Rick Bye&#039;s response. &quot;Mr. Bye quietly surveyed the scene for a minute. Then he walked over to my son. &#039;Stuff happens,&#039; he said. &#039;We&#039;re glad you&#039;re okay. This is only a car. You don&#039;t need a lecture. You already know.&#039;&quot;

Totally the kind of guy I&#039;d want around in a crisis.

That speaks well of him, and well of Porsche. I suspect this story&#039;ll get them positive PR worth well over $11k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[I was signed in less than a day ago, and still it makes me sign in? Sheesh.]</p>
<p>My first thought was &#8220;wow, this catalogue of stories of rich kids destroying expensive stuff: this is because they don&#8217;t get given responsibilities to match their freedoms.&#8221;</p>
<p>But JohnCJ is right: the kid&#8217;s *lucky* to have gotten off so lightly (and to get an internship with a racing driver out of the deal!), but he&#8217;s doing everything he&#8217;s been asked to, to repay his one-second lapse.</p>
<p>To other posters: I&#8217;m from the UK, we pretty much all drive manuals here, and yes, any good driver here or in any other country will park a car on a hill in gear and with the wheel turned against the kerb (US: curb). And nobody parks without the handbrake on.</p>
<p>A kid&#8217;s not going to have the ingrained reflex of wiggling the shift before raising the clutch, nor even of raising the clutch slowly. Even as an adult, with a car you&#8217;re not accustomed to, you might think the stick&#8217;s in neutral from waggling when in fact it&#8217;s not, and you might raise the clutch faster than the car needs to catch and jerk forward. So, I guess, fair enough.</p>
<p>I *really* like the Porsche guy&#8217;s, Mr Rick Bye&#8217;s response. &#8220;Mr. Bye quietly surveyed the scene for a minute. Then he walked over to my son. &#8216;Stuff happens,&#8217; he said. &#8216;We&#8217;re glad you&#8217;re okay. This is only a car. You don&#8217;t need a lecture. You already know.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Totally the kind of guy I&#8217;d want around in a crisis.</p>
<p>That speaks well of him, and well of Porsche. I suspect this story&#8217;ll get them positive PR worth well over $11k.</p>
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		<title>By: mccrum</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797738</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pretty much did the same thing the day of high school prom when I didn&#039;t want to get the newly vacuumed interior dirty so I decided the best way was not to take off my shoes but hold the door open as I backed slowly out of the garage.  Only a slightly crumpled door in the end and some repair to the garage doorframe, but certainly a lesson well learned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pretty much did the same thing the day of high school prom when I didn&#8217;t want to get the newly vacuumed interior dirty so I decided the best way was not to take off my shoes but hold the door open as I backed slowly out of the garage.  Only a slightly crumpled door in the end and some repair to the garage doorframe, but certainly a lesson well learned.</p>
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		<title>By: Chevan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797740</link>
		<dc:creator>Chevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As costly mistakes go, it could have been a lot worse. At least it was minimal damage and not a total loss. If insurance doesn&#039;t cover it, the kid could work that off in a couple years (and it&#039;d be a good lesson).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As costly mistakes go, it could have been a lot worse. At least it was minimal damage and not a total loss. If insurance doesn&#8217;t cover it, the kid could work that off in a couple years (and it&#8217;d be a good lesson).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797742</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because you obviously aren&#039;t interested in cars, doesn&#039;t mean other people are not. It may only be worth a tenth of that price to you, but there are others that value it for every penny. 

I am sure there are plenty of things on which you spend money at which others would scoff. Try to maintain some perspective please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you obviously aren&#8217;t interested in cars, doesn&#8217;t mean other people are not. It may only be worth a tenth of that price to you, but there are others that value it for every penny. </p>
<p>I am sure there are plenty of things on which you spend money at which others would scoff. Try to maintain some perspective please.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797746</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>technogeek, what makes any car worth money?  The time, engineering, production costs, etc., for a Porsche that handles like that one does, and has a low production rating, the price will be high.  Cars range in price from a few thousand to a million or more, it all depends on where you put your priority.   Why be so judgmental?  If someone earns the money and can afford the luxury, so be it.  The important thing to note in this story is that both the father (who did not own the car btw) and the people from Porsche handled the situation well.  

I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if this car has some sort of push button start mechanism and it was left in first with the parking brake on.  There should be some safeguards but in all likelihood the kid just didn&#039;t know with this particular car how to turn it on in accessory mode.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>technogeek, what makes any car worth money?  The time, engineering, production costs, etc., for a Porsche that handles like that one does, and has a low production rating, the price will be high.  Cars range in price from a few thousand to a million or more, it all depends on where you put your priority.   Why be so judgmental?  If someone earns the money and can afford the luxury, so be it.  The important thing to note in this story is that both the father (who did not own the car btw) and the people from Porsche handled the situation well.  </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if this car has some sort of push button start mechanism and it was left in first with the parking brake on.  There should be some safeguards but in all likelihood the kid just didn&#8217;t know with this particular car how to turn it on in accessory mode.  </p>
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		<title>By: Felix Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798003</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But who are /you/ to decide how people can spend their money? Why not ban all cars? There&#039;s no reason for anyone to drive, since they can just take the bus or walk.&lt;/i&gt;

I wasn&#039;t deciding how people spend their money, I was explaining why people will think you&#039;re selfish if you spend $180,000 on a car. Why do people always think criticising something is the same as wanting to ban it? If you don&#039;t think it&#039;s a selfish thing to do then argue about that, don&#039;t imply I&#039;m starting a socialist revolution.

Every adult knows what $180,000 can buy, and what good it can do, and that you can easily get a good car for a fifth of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But who are /you/ to decide how people can spend their money? Why not ban all cars? There&#8217;s no reason for anyone to drive, since they can just take the bus or walk.</i></p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t deciding how people spend their money, I was explaining why people will think you&#8217;re selfish if you spend $180,000 on a car. Why do people always think criticising something is the same as wanting to ban it? If you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a selfish thing to do then argue about that, don&#8217;t imply I&#8217;m starting a socialist revolution.</p>
<p>Every adult knows what $180,000 can buy, and what good it can do, and that you can easily get a good car for a fifth of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797749</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only $11k damage to a car like that? Kid really can&#039;t drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only $11k damage to a car like that? Kid really can&#8217;t drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Daedalus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797751</link>
		<dc:creator>Daedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People with decadently valuable objects absolutely deserve to have them reduced to the rubble from whence we all came by the great equalizing force of human fallibility, especially as presented in kids. 

Entropy, bitchez!

&lt;i&gt;&quot;If insurance doesn&#039;t cover it, the kid could work that off in a couple years (and it&#039;d be a good lesson).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Dude, I probably haven&#039;t made $180,000 in my entire career history, and I&#039;ve been working straight for a decade and a half. If that kid could work it off in a few years, um, can I have that job instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People with decadently valuable objects absolutely deserve to have them reduced to the rubble from whence we all came by the great equalizing force of human fallibility, especially as presented in kids. </p>
<p>Entropy, bitchez!</p>
<p><i>&#8220;If insurance doesn&#8217;t cover it, the kid could work that off in a couple years (and it&#8217;d be a good lesson).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Dude, I probably haven&#8217;t made $180,000 in my entire career history, and I&#8217;ve been working straight for a decade and a half. If that kid could work it off in a few years, um, can I have that job instead?</p>
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		<title>By: bytefyre</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798011</link>
		<dc:creator>bytefyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although we don&#039;t have an official &quot;poverty line&quot; (its called something else) here in Canada its certainly better than America&#039;s (here&#039;s a table http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_lico04_bt.htm)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although we don&#8217;t have an official &#8220;poverty line&#8221; (its called something else) here in Canada its certainly better than America&#8217;s (here&#8217;s a table <a href="http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_lico04_bt.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_lico04_bt.htm</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797756</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, it sounds like he wasn&#039;t driving. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, it sounds like he wasn&#8217;t driving. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798013</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you know msm print media beats the internet in timeliness for once</description>
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		<title>By: Ichabod</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ichabod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My younger brother ran his tricycle into our neighbors Ford Pantera Test car back in 1973-ish,(the car blew up on the track the next day).  Punishment, well not much other than the look of &quot;Oh My GoD!&quot; from my father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My younger brother ran his tricycle into our neighbors Ford Pantera Test car back in 1973-ish,(the car blew up on the track the next day).  Punishment, well not much other than the look of &#8220;Oh My GoD!&#8221; from my father.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-797766</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vehicle damage was $11,000. A kid working a year-round part-time job could definitely pay that off in short time.

Read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vehicle damage was $11,000. A kid working a year-round part-time job could definitely pay that off in short time.</p>
<p>Read.</p>
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		<title>By: webmonkees</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/26/automotive-journalis.html#comment-798278</link>
		<dc:creator>webmonkees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disaster is probably already budgeted into the test drive loaner program.  They are also used to customers dragging in the remnants of their new model within a few days.

I&#039;m of the opinion that automatics just add a level of dumb to operation. Manual transmissions are a reminder to the driver that this thing is a mechanical device, not a golf cart with air conditioning. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disaster is probably already budgeted into the test drive loaner program.  They are also used to customers dragging in the remnants of their new model within a few days.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of the opinion that automatics just add a level of dumb to operation. Manual transmissions are a reminder to the driver that this thing is a mechanical device, not a golf cart with air conditioning. </p>
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