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	<title>Comments on: How a big oil spill turns good cleanup plans upside&#160;down</title>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806146</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Likewise, oil sunk by dispersants doesn&#039;t wash up on the beachâ€”again, a good thing in smaller spills. Here, though, it ends up creating a threat to underwater ecosystems, especially coral reefs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If I was a public relations goon I&#039;d probably advise BP that it&#039;s better to destroy a reef than a beach. Televised images of destroyed beachfront property and oil-soaked pelicans do a lot more damage than reports about dead anemones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Likewise, oil sunk by dispersants doesn&#8217;t wash up on the beachâ€”again, a good thing in smaller spills. Here, though, it ends up creating a threat to underwater ecosystems, especially coral reefs.</p></blockquote>
<p>If I was a public relations goon I&#8217;d probably advise BP that it&#8217;s better to destroy a reef than a beach. Televised images of destroyed beachfront property and oil-soaked pelicans do a lot more damage than reports about dead anemones.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806153</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurricane season just started June 1

(Oil + Corexit 9500 / Evaporation ) + Hurricane =??




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurricane season just started June 1</p>
<p>(Oil + Corexit 9500 / Evaporation ) + Hurricane =??</p>
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		<title>By: pabos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806162</link>
		<dc:creator>pabos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw lots of pea sized oil balls in the water yesterday in Orange Beach, AL. I think that they will actually land on the beach, and be a hell of a lot harder to collect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw lots of pea sized oil balls in the water yesterday in Orange Beach, AL. I think that they will actually land on the beach, and be a hell of a lot harder to collect.</p>
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		<title>By: carljohnson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806166</link>
		<dc:creator>carljohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please say &quot;dose makes the poison&quot; every day from now until the end of time? Because I&#039;ve been saying it for years and years and it just doesn&#039;t seem to make an impression on people. Maybe you guys can get it across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please say &#8220;dose makes the poison&#8221; every day from now until the end of time? Because I&#8217;ve been saying it for years and years and it just doesn&#8217;t seem to make an impression on people. Maybe you guys can get it across.</p>
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		<title>By: ADavies</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806951</link>
		<dc:creator>ADavies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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The thing is, there is no way to actually, &quot;clean up&quot; a major oil spill.  Even under ideal conditions (which are rare) only a fraction of the oil can be captured. 

That&#039;s why I say:  The only winning move is not to drill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, there is no way to actually, &#8220;clean up&#8221; a major oil spill.  Even under ideal conditions (which are rare) only a fraction of the oil can be captured. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I say:  The only winning move is not to drill.</p>
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		<title>By: orwellian</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806446</link>
		<dc:creator>orwellian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(Oil + Corexit 9500 / Evaporation ) + Hurricane =??&quot;

Until recently, BP would have said &quot;Profit!!&quot; but now I think the plan is to have the oil inundate New Orleans to finish the job. At this point, I think Iran is paying them to destroy the US. The tankers the oil is being put into will most likely be used to spread oil slicks to both coasts.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(Oil + Corexit 9500 / Evaporation ) + Hurricane =??&#8221;</p>
<p>Until recently, BP would have said &#8220;Profit!!&#8221; but now I think the plan is to have the oil inundate New Orleans to finish the job. At this point, I think Iran is paying them to destroy the US. The tankers the oil is being put into will most likely be used to spread oil slicks to both coasts.  </p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806721</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was common knowledge by now that all BP is doing is positioning itself to support it&#039;s legal team. BP&#039;s idea of a cleanup plan is information management everything else that&#039;s said is incidental to that goal.

The whole issue of oil plumes in water was nicely studied by the MMS some time ago in 2000, but never quite released for another 5 years:

Project &quot;Deep Spill&quot;
http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/377.htm

&lt;I&gt;A joint industry project (JIP) was formed between the MMS and 23 different oil companies to conduct this research. The project consisted of an experimental release of oil and gas conducted in June 2000 off the coast of Norway. Mixtures of crude oil and natural gas, diesel oil and natural gas, as well as only natural gas were released at approximately 800 meters water depth. The goal was to simulate a blowout or pipeline rupture in deep water and obtain data to verify the predictions of a deep water blowout model being developed under a separate contract. In another, related, research project, experiments were conducted in a simulated deep ocean environment created in a high pressure chamber located at the University of Hawaii.&lt;/I&gt;

So the story we should be discussing is somewhat different than this simple denial of reality when one issue is why we seem to accept their position as having any validity at all. 

An even larger issue is why we have allowed this pursuit of greed to destroy the Gulf ocean&#039;s environment as some simple cost of their business, in order to serve our apparent need for cheap gasoline. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was common knowledge by now that all BP is doing is positioning itself to support it&#8217;s legal team. BP&#8217;s idea of a cleanup plan is information management everything else that&#8217;s said is incidental to that goal.</p>
<p>The whole issue of oil plumes in water was nicely studied by the MMS some time ago in 2000, but never quite released for another 5 years:</p>
<p>Project &#8220;Deep Spill&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/377.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/377.htm</a></p>
<p><i>A joint industry project (JIP) was formed between the MMS and 23 different oil companies to conduct this research. The project consisted of an experimental release of oil and gas conducted in June 2000 off the coast of Norway. Mixtures of crude oil and natural gas, diesel oil and natural gas, as well as only natural gas were released at approximately 800 meters water depth. The goal was to simulate a blowout or pipeline rupture in deep water and obtain data to verify the predictions of a deep water blowout model being developed under a separate contract. In another, related, research project, experiments were conducted in a simulated deep ocean environment created in a high pressure chamber located at the University of Hawaii.</i></p>
<p>So the story we should be discussing is somewhat different than this simple denial of reality when one issue is why we seem to accept their position as having any validity at all. </p>
<p>An even larger issue is why we have allowed this pursuit of greed to destroy the Gulf ocean&#8217;s environment as some simple cost of their business, in order to serve our apparent need for cheap gasoline. </p>
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		<title>By: maxonaplane</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806240</link>
		<dc:creator>maxonaplane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any websites tracking the distance reached by the oil spill? I&#039;m planning a vacation to Florida for July and was worried as to exactly how far the oil spill&#039;s arms have reached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any websites tracking the distance reached by the oil spill? I&#8217;m planning a vacation to Florida for July and was worried as to exactly how far the oil spill&#8217;s arms have reached.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Olshefsky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806788</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Olshefsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh!  If the microbes need oxygen, load the Gulf with a few billion tons of potassium nitrate.  I heard it&#039;s an oxidizer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh!  If the microbes need oxygen, load the Gulf with a few billion tons of potassium nitrate.  I heard it&#8217;s an oxidizer.</p>
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		<title>By: Slingerdoo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806280</link>
		<dc:creator>Slingerdoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try the Deepwaterhorizonresponse.com site and look under News/Info, then Maps. NOAA is releasing &quot;Nearshore Trajectory Forecast&quot; maps.

Here&#039;s a link:
http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doctype/2931/53979/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try the Deepwaterhorizonresponse.com site and look under News/Info, then Maps. NOAA is releasing &#8220;Nearshore Trajectory Forecast&#8221; maps.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link:<br />
<a href="http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doctype/2931/53979/" rel="nofollow">http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doctype/2931/53979/</a></p>
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		<title>By: donniebnyc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806837</link>
		<dc:creator>donniebnyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a simple two word answer to your question as to why this was allowed to happen:  campaign contributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a simple two word answer to your question as to why this was allowed to happen:  campaign contributions.</p>
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		<title>By: SeattleGuy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806080</link>
		<dc:creator>SeattleGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony Hayward?  He&#039;s still a few clues shy of a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Hayward?  He&#8217;s still a few clues shy of a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Wardish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-807111</link>
		<dc:creator>Wardish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve a paranoid slant.

I wonder how fast BP is moving equipment and other resources to completely offshore entities.  

I suspect this &quot;we will fix all the issues generated by the oil spill&quot; stance will go away after a long set of delaying tactics.

But of course, I&#039;m a paranoid type fellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve a paranoid slant.</p>
<p>I wonder how fast BP is moving equipment and other resources to completely offshore entities.  </p>
<p>I suspect this &#8220;we will fix all the issues generated by the oil spill&#8221; stance will go away after a long set of delaying tactics.</p>
<p>But of course, I&#8217;m a paranoid type fellow.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806100</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to GN you, but this post appears to have skipped the copy editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to GN you, but this post appears to have skipped the copy editor.</p>
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		<title>By: voiceinthedistance</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/08/how-a-big-oil-spill.html#comment-806362</link>
		<dc:creator>voiceinthedistance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coreexit = misnamed product.  

Correct name:  CoralExit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coreexit = misnamed product.  </p>
<p>Correct name:  CoralExit</p>
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