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		<title>By: s5</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810249</link>
		<dc:creator>s5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points:

(1) It gets ignored because Nigeria has very little media or international presence.

(2) It *doesn&#039;t* get ignored in the sense that there are millions of us in the first world who want to stop using oil for energy. Such a move would neatly solve the problem raised here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points:</p>
<p>(1) It gets ignored because Nigeria has very little media or international presence.</p>
<p>(2) It *doesn&#8217;t* get ignored in the sense that there are millions of us in the first world who want to stop using oil for energy. Such a move would neatly solve the problem raised here.</p>
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		<title>By: ReardenMetal</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810251</link>
		<dc:creator>ReardenMetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks S5.  It&#039;s just there are times when I think that the vast majority of oil consumers think it&#039;s really not their problem until it affects them directly.  I really agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks S5.  It&#8217;s just there are times when I think that the vast majority of oil consumers think it&#8217;s really not their problem until it affects them directly.  I really agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810253</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another case study: Texaco (now Chevron) leached more oil than the BP spill into the Ecuadorean amazon while operating there from 1970 on. 

There&#039;s been a 15 year effort to bring them to trial for the cancer rates and slo-mo environmental catastrophe the local communities have been living through. But, once again, it&#039;s not in the US so not much international interest.

Check out the recent film &quot;Crude&quot; for the story, or a current op-ed from the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/opinion/05herbert.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another case study: Texaco (now Chevron) leached more oil than the BP spill into the Ecuadorean amazon while operating there from 1970 on. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s been a 15 year effort to bring them to trial for the cancer rates and slo-mo environmental catastrophe the local communities have been living through. But, once again, it&#8217;s not in the US so not much international interest.</p>
<p>Check out the recent film &#8220;Crude&#8221; for the story, or a current op-ed from the NY Times:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/opinion/05herbert.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/opinion/05herbert.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810765</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chomsky?  Is that you?

Joking aside, you are correct.  Corporations, under national and international law, only exist to make a profit.  If no one stands up to them, they will abuse human beings and the environment every time.  The logic of the market is diametrically opposed to the logic of the living planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chomsky?  Is that you?</p>
<p>Joking aside, you are correct.  Corporations, under national and international law, only exist to make a profit.  If no one stands up to them, they will abuse human beings and the environment every time.  The logic of the market is diametrically opposed to the logic of the living planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-811282</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an American by trade, I am shamed. As an African by design, I am outraged.  Does being American (in my case, African-American) grant me a license to be globally aloof?  The cover of time had a picture of the oil drenched pelican but we don&#039;t see people of color drenched in oil.  My American media system; somedays it is nothing more than digital holocaust.   
W. Russell Robinson
Durham, NC--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American by trade, I am shamed. As an African by design, I am outraged.  Does being American (in my case, African-American) grant me a license to be globally aloof?  The cover of time had a picture of the oil drenched pelican but we don&#8217;t see people of color drenched in oil.  My American media system; somedays it is nothing more than digital holocaust.<br />
W. Russell Robinson<br />
Durham, NC&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Arkenberg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810261</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Arkenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MEND, the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta, has been waging a low-level but highly-effective guerrilla war on oil infrastructure. They&#039;ve inflicted serious economic damages on Shell Oil &amp; Chevron and may represent a model for future resistance groups based around the nexus of oil exploitation &amp; environmental damage. 

I&#039;ve compiled my own research on the topic here:
http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/06/03/research-brief-emerging-models-of-non-state-power/ 

What&#039;s unknown is how much additional environmental destruction is the result of MEND&#039;s attacks on oil infrastructure, ie are they primarily motivated by economic disparity or is there indeed great concern for the environment as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MEND, the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta, has been waging a low-level but highly-effective guerrilla war on oil infrastructure. They&#8217;ve inflicted serious economic damages on Shell Oil &#038; Chevron and may represent a model for future resistance groups based around the nexus of oil exploitation &#038; environmental damage. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve compiled my own research on the topic here:<br />
<a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/06/03/research-brief-emerging-models-of-non-state-power/" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/06/03/research-brief-emerging-models-of-non-state-power/</a> </p>
<p>What&#8217;s unknown is how much additional environmental destruction is the result of MEND&#8217;s attacks on oil infrastructure, ie are they primarily motivated by economic disparity or is there indeed great concern for the environment as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810262</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why Obama&#039;s comments are &quot;jingoistic,&quot; unless you&#039;re referring to him calling the company &quot;British Petroleum.&quot; ...that was a tempest in a teapot if there ever was one.

There needs to be a environmental-damage tax applied to all oil companies that is based on the number of barrels of oil extracted, whether or not it ever makes it to consumers. And this tax revenue ought to be split between environmental conservancy organizations and R&amp;D for better green energy. Ha! Sorry, I just laughed at the thought of such a bill ever passing, or even being proposed.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why Obama&#8217;s comments are &#8220;jingoistic,&#8221; unless you&#8217;re referring to him calling the company &#8220;British Petroleum.&#8221; &#8230;that was a tempest in a teapot if there ever was one.</p>
<p>There needs to be a environmental-damage tax applied to all oil companies that is based on the number of barrels of oil extracted, whether or not it ever makes it to consumers. And this tax revenue ought to be split between environmental conservancy organizations and R&#038;D for better green energy. Ha! Sorry, I just laughed at the thought of such a bill ever passing, or even being proposed&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-906778</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this situation is just crazy!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this situation is just crazy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810271</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow, if you could get this video to the reporter who did this story, and she could get the message to these folks, maybe something good would happen. These guys have a very simple solution to getting oil out of water, and it would work in this situation.


    http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/

kz

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, if you could get this video to the reporter who did this story, and she could get the message to these folks, maybe something good would happen. These guys have a very simple solution to getting oil out of water, and it would work in this situation.</p>
<p>    <a href="http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/</a></p>
<p>kz</p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810796</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, what..? Nigeria is a Federal Republic. It holds elections for the house, senate and president just like the US. And it has long had a petroleum-based economy with the rights for foreign oil companies to do whatever they want so long as they paid the right people.

Start &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, what..? Nigeria is a Federal Republic. It holds elections for the house, senate and president just like the US. And it has long had a petroleum-based economy with the rights for foreign oil companies to do whatever they want so long as they paid the right people.</p>
<p>Start <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ian71</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810289</link>
		<dc:creator>ian71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not &quot;laissez faire capitalism&quot;, it&#039;s Letting The Free Market Decide.  

Glenn Beck would be proud of these guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;laissez faire capitalism&#8221;, it&#8217;s Letting The Free Market Decide.  </p>
<p>Glenn Beck would be proud of these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Sisyphist</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810298</link>
		<dc:creator>Sisyphist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really glad that now, at least, I know. Thanks BoingBoing, you offer me the opportunity to act as an enlightened citizen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really glad that now, at least, I know. Thanks BoingBoing, you offer me the opportunity to act as an enlightened citizen!</p>
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		<title>By: ritholtz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810555</link>
		<dc:creator>ritholtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a chart showing a comparison between BP spills and other disasters.

The Iraq war purposeful spillage was an enormous release of oil, but that was done willfully.  What is really astounding is the regular spillage from ordinary drilling, rig spills, and transportation.

Quite fascnating

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/06/how-bad-is-bp-deepwater-horizon/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a chart showing a comparison between BP spills and other disasters.</p>
<p>The Iraq war purposeful spillage was an enormous release of oil, but that was done willfully.  What is really astounding is the regular spillage from ordinary drilling, rig spills, and transportation.</p>
<p>Quite fascnating</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/06/how-bad-is-bp-deepwater-horizon/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/06/how-bad-is-bp-deepwater-horizon/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really interesting article on the evident double standards present in society today i.e. BP in the USA vs Shell in Nigeria.  In an episode of Ross Kemp on Pirates, he interviewed an anonymous person who claimed that the gangs who stole from the oil wells in Nigeria were also affiliated to the government and indicated that there was a complex web of corruption in the country.  Nigeria is a beautiful country and although the wealth of the nation is driven by &#039;Black Gold&#039;, its important that the government helps preserve country&#039;s natural beauty so they don&#039;t hinder progress for their population in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really interesting article on the evident double standards present in society today i.e. BP in the USA vs Shell in Nigeria.  In an episode of Ross Kemp on Pirates, he interviewed an anonymous person who claimed that the gangs who stole from the oil wells in Nigeria were also affiliated to the government and indicated that there was a complex web of corruption in the country.  Nigeria is a beautiful country and although the wealth of the nation is driven by &#8216;Black Gold&#8217;, its important that the government helps preserve country&#8217;s natural beauty so they don&#8217;t hinder progress for their population in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: zyodei</title>
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		<dc:creator>zyodei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming this on laissez faire misses the point.

Even the most ardent libertarians/anarcho-capitalists, who reject the very legitimacy of modern governments, would all agree that society must devise some manner of peacefully correcting wrongs that one party has inflicted on another. 

Remember, to many on the right, the rights of &quot;private property&quot; are hugely important. This article documents point of this article is a wholesale violation of those rights.

Regulation is focused on preventing perceived problems before they happens. The usefulness of this is variable. For instance, with the toys cited above..well, I would not like them regulated, thank you very much. I simply won&#039;t buy any shit made in China, I would rather trust local handmade toys I can verify.

The largest problems of regulation are these: 1) They are over time tilted in favor of the largest players; so they barely faze them but knock out the little guys. This is very true of, for instance, toys. 2) They provide the illusion that things are taken care of and that there is no risk, so that other safeguards become more lax.

Again, this situation is Nigeria is not due to under-regulation, but rather a complete failure of the court system to protect people from harm.

In general, no government at all is preferable to a powerful government that is corrupted and in bed with the monied interests. Unfortunately, this is the long term state of governments virtually all the time, thus I am happy to call myself an anarchist, looking for different and better solutions to our common problems outside of the state paradigms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming this on laissez faire misses the point.</p>
<p>Even the most ardent libertarians/anarcho-capitalists, who reject the very legitimacy of modern governments, would all agree that society must devise some manner of peacefully correcting wrongs that one party has inflicted on another. </p>
<p>Remember, to many on the right, the rights of &#8220;private property&#8221; are hugely important. This article documents point of this article is a wholesale violation of those rights.</p>
<p>Regulation is focused on preventing perceived problems before they happens. The usefulness of this is variable. For instance, with the toys cited above..well, I would not like them regulated, thank you very much. I simply won&#8217;t buy any shit made in China, I would rather trust local handmade toys I can verify.</p>
<p>The largest problems of regulation are these: 1) They are over time tilted in favor of the largest players; so they barely faze them but knock out the little guys. This is very true of, for instance, toys. 2) They provide the illusion that things are taken care of and that there is no risk, so that other safeguards become more lax.</p>
<p>Again, this situation is Nigeria is not due to under-regulation, but rather a complete failure of the court system to protect people from harm.</p>
<p>In general, no government at all is preferable to a powerful government that is corrupted and in bed with the monied interests. Unfortunately, this is the long term state of governments virtually all the time, thus I am happy to call myself an anarchist, looking for different and better solutions to our common problems outside of the state paradigms.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
The article states that over the last 50 years, foreign oil companies have spilled over 1.5 million tons 

1,500,000 tons/50 years = 30000 ton per year 

30000 ton x 7.33 barrels per ton = 219900 barrels per year (www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html)

Gulf oil leak = 45000 barrels a day or the equivalent of a year of Nigerian leakage every 5 days


 ... and a lot of the oil spilled in Nigeria is due to sabotage (ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/02/nigerian-oil/oneill-text)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article states that over the last 50 years, foreign oil companies have spilled over 1.5 million tons </p>
<p>1,500,000 tons/50 years = 30000 ton per year </p>
<p>30000 ton x 7.33 barrels per ton = 219900 barrels per year (www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html)</p>
<p>Gulf oil leak = 45000 barrels a day or the equivalent of a year of Nigerian leakage every 5 days</p>
<p> &#8230; and a lot of the oil spilled in Nigeria is due to sabotage (ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/02/nigerian-oil/oneill-text)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>i got an official response from shell...


The oil and gas industry in the Niger Delta is an immensely complex subject, and so we have put a lot of information here that sets out the issues and our responses: http://www.shell.com/home/content/nga/aboutshell/media_centre/annual_reports_and_publications/

Our joint venture in Nigeria is committed to stopping all leaks as fast as possible and cleaning up all spill sites. Assessment of spills and clean-up is always done in conjunction with communities and government authorities, using community contractor companies where possible.

The sad fact is that the majority of oil pollution in the Niger Delta is caused by sabotage or theft.  Most spills are caused by heavily-armed gangs who illegally tap into the pipelines to steal large quantities of crude oil.  They spill oil, cause widespread environmental damage that impact the lives of affected communities and leave someone else to clean up the mess. 

It is sometimes risky or impossible to send our oil spill response team to stop the leaks immediately because the areas are controlled by these gangs.  Some armed, militant groups blow up pipelines and other facilities to stop oil production and draw attention to conditions in the Niger Delta.  Last year, thieves or saboteurs spilled about 103,000 barrels from Shellâ€™s joint venture facilities in 95 incidents â€“ an average of one spill every four days. This accounted for almost 98% of the volume of oil spilled during the year. 

whatcha think?  i think they could do more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got an official response from shell&#8230;</p>
<p>The oil and gas industry in the Niger Delta is an immensely complex subject, and so we have put a lot of information here that sets out the issues and our responses: <a href="http://www.shell.com/home/content/nga/aboutshell/media_centre/annual_reports_and_publications/" rel="nofollow">http://www.shell.com/home/content/nga/aboutshell/media_centre/annual_reports_and_publications/</a></p>
<p>Our joint venture in Nigeria is committed to stopping all leaks as fast as possible and cleaning up all spill sites. Assessment of spills and clean-up is always done in conjunction with communities and government authorities, using community contractor companies where possible.</p>
<p>The sad fact is that the majority of oil pollution in the Niger Delta is caused by sabotage or theft.  Most spills are caused by heavily-armed gangs who illegally tap into the pipelines to steal large quantities of crude oil.  They spill oil, cause widespread environmental damage that impact the lives of affected communities and leave someone else to clean up the mess. </p>
<p>It is sometimes risky or impossible to send our oil spill response team to stop the leaks immediately because the areas are controlled by these gangs.  Some armed, militant groups blow up pipelines and other facilities to stop oil production and draw attention to conditions in the Niger Delta.  Last year, thieves or saboteurs spilled about 103,000 barrels from Shellâ€™s joint venture facilities in 95 incidents â€“ an average of one spill every four days. This accounted for almost 98% of the volume of oil spilled during the year. </p>
<p>whatcha think?  i think they could do more</p>
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		<title>By: Mantissa128</title>
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		<description>I thought I had read about MEND earlier... see this BB post from today!

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/15/john-robb-interview.html#more

...and they caused the global meltdown. No fooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I had read about MEND earlier&#8230; see this BB post from today!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/15/john-robb-interview.html#more" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/15/john-robb-interview.html#more</a></p>
<p>&#8230;and they caused the global meltdown. No fooling.</p>
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		<title>By: alp arlsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alp arlsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read environmental stories like this (and very salient this one was too) I&#039;m always amazed  to see the same old libertarian syllogisms pop up about it all being that (insert anywhere&#039;s) government&#039;s fault. When companies such as these take advantage of corrupt, developing world regimes they are using their power and wealth to pay the government in question to abdicate its governmental repsonsibilities in a certain area. In other words, the company obtains de facto autonomy through the exchange. It exchanges its wealth for the power to regulate - the power doesn&#039;t suddenly stop being state power to become free market power, it&#039;s still just power. The company in question is in fact operating in that ever so eulogised, perfect free market. If you frame it in a different way, the government could instead just be another rival company, the corp in question has does no more than to convince some of its rival&#039;s workers to switch sides for better pay. In a similar manner, the former soviet union became the industiralised world&#039;s most polluted nation, not because it was over regulated but because it wasn&#039;t regulated at all - the government were the regulators as well as the producers. Even in modern market democracies the least polluting (but of course, the still far too polluting) countries are those with the toughest regulations - e.g. europe and Japan. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read environmental stories like this (and very salient this one was too) I&#8217;m always amazed  to see the same old libertarian syllogisms pop up about it all being that (insert anywhere&#8217;s) government&#8217;s fault. When companies such as these take advantage of corrupt, developing world regimes they are using their power and wealth to pay the government in question to abdicate its governmental repsonsibilities in a certain area. In other words, the company obtains de facto autonomy through the exchange. It exchanges its wealth for the power to regulate &#8211; the power doesn&#8217;t suddenly stop being state power to become free market power, it&#8217;s still just power. The company in question is in fact operating in that ever so eulogised, perfect free market. If you frame it in a different way, the government could instead just be another rival company, the corp in question has does no more than to convince some of its rival&#8217;s workers to switch sides for better pay. In a similar manner, the former soviet union became the industiralised world&#8217;s most polluted nation, not because it was over regulated but because it wasn&#8217;t regulated at all &#8211; the government were the regulators as well as the producers. Even in modern market democracies the least polluting (but of course, the still far too polluting) countries are those with the toughest regulations &#8211; e.g. europe and Japan. </p>
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		<title>By: shevrae</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810606</link>
		<dc:creator>shevrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, #3 - you do realize that Nigeria is a socialist country, right?

Very little laissez faire going on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, #3 &#8211; you do realize that Nigeria is a socialist country, right?</p>
<p>Very little laissez faire going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810356</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This blow out, these crimes in Nigeria and elsewhere are laissez faire capitalism taken to the logical conclusion.&quot;

&quot;It&#039;s not &quot;laissez faire capitalism&quot;, it&#039;s Letting The Free Market Decide.&quot;

This is a succinct lesson in precisely what a free market truly is:
http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2010/05/the-corporate-state-2.html

In how many oil exploitation markets is the status quo enforced by brutal governments in bed with corporations, all colluding to prevent competition, i.e., to prevent a truly free market? Such an arrangement is a market that is far from free.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This blow out, these crimes in Nigeria and elsewhere are laissez faire capitalism taken to the logical conclusion.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not &#8220;laissez faire capitalism&#8221;, it&#8217;s Letting The Free Market Decide.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a succinct lesson in precisely what a free market truly is:<br />
<a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2010/05/the-corporate-state-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2010/05/the-corporate-state-2.html</a></p>
<p>In how many oil exploitation markets is the status quo enforced by brutal governments in bed with corporations, all colluding to prevent competition, i.e., to prevent a truly free market? Such an arrangement is a market that is far from free.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810368</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your labeling this as an example of laissez faire capitalism is laughable.  It is precisely because they have the protection of the Nigerian government that they are able to do this. Laissez faire is the absence of government control, not a system where the government takes care of those that dump money into their system and pay them off for protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your labeling this as an example of laissez faire capitalism is laughable.  It is precisely because they have the protection of the Nigerian government that they are able to do this. Laissez faire is the absence of government control, not a system where the government takes care of those that dump money into their system and pay them off for protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810373</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SamSam: Thats what BP stood for. British Petroleum. He just continues to use it.  I see no harm. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703685404575306654201277566.html?mod=WSJ_Heard_MIDDLETopNews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamSam: Thats what BP stood for. British Petroleum. He just continues to use it.  I see no harm. <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703685404575306654201277566.html?mod=WSJ_Heard_MIDDLETopNews" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703685404575306654201277566.html?mod=WSJ_Heard_MIDDLETopNews</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810374</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re actually claiming that if more oil companies were able to compete in Nigeria without government interference, they&#039;d be more environmentally friendly? What exactly would cause that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re actually claiming that if more oil companies were able to compete in Nigeria without government interference, they&#8217;d be more environmentally friendly? What exactly would cause that?</p>
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		<title>By: Xeni Jardin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810380</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeni Jardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous,

The quoted &lt;em&gt;Guardian&lt;/em&gt; article was written on May 30, just over one month after the spill. Two weeks have passed since then.

Remember that initial &quot;official&quot; estimates of flow were 1,000 barrels a day, with debate and gradually up-revised figures that bring us to the current ballpark of-- what is it now? 25,000 barrels a day? 

So, arguing over math and comparisons in total amount spilled in the Gulf disaster versus historic totals in the Niger Delta can be tricky, because the Gulf amounts are still so widely debated... and because the flow is still ongoing.

The Gulf disaster is terrible. The very large number of similarly devastating spills in the Niger delta are also terrible. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous,</p>
<p>The quoted <em>Guardian</em> article was written on May 30, just over one month after the spill. Two weeks have passed since then.</p>
<p>Remember that initial &#8220;official&#8221; estimates of flow were 1,000 barrels a day, with debate and gradually up-revised figures that bring us to the current ballpark of&#8211; what is it now? 25,000 barrels a day? </p>
<p>So, arguing over math and comparisons in total amount spilled in the Gulf disaster versus historic totals in the Niger Delta can be tricky, because the Gulf amounts are still so widely debated&#8230; and because the flow is still ongoing.</p>
<p>The Gulf disaster is terrible. The very large number of similarly devastating spills in the Niger delta are also terrible. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-813964</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing to see what the Oil companies are able to get away with. Sadly enough, we haven&#039;t even seen the tip of the impact this oil spill is going to have for generations to come.

Check out the Spill Calculator to see how much oil is really gushing out.

http://bit.ly/BP-oil_Spill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing to see what the Oil companies are able to get away with. Sadly enough, we haven&#8217;t even seen the tip of the impact this oil spill is going to have for generations to come.</p>
<p>Check out the Spill Calculator to see how much oil is really gushing out.</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/BP-oil_Spill" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/BP-oil_Spill</a></p>
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		<title>By: middleclass</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-811409</link>
		<dc:creator>middleclass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;government could instead just be another rival company&quot;

Except it doesn&#039;t work that way. There is no &quot;perfect free market&quot; in your example because your &quot;rival company&quot; will at best ignore and at worst encage and murder those people, who they will call rebels, who recognize another group as their government.

Apart from the oil situation I have no idea how satisfied Nigerians are with their government, but it seems likely that at least those most affected by pollution would abandon the current regime in short order if the costs of doing so were not so high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;government could instead just be another rival company&#8221;</p>
<p>Except it doesn&#8217;t work that way. There is no &#8220;perfect free market&#8221; in your example because your &#8220;rival company&#8221; will at best ignore and at worst encage and murder those people, who they will call rebels, who recognize another group as their government.</p>
<p>Apart from the oil situation I have no idea how satisfied Nigerians are with their government, but it seems likely that at least those most affected by pollution would abandon the current regime in short order if the costs of doing so were not so high.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810387</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty sure &quot;any country&quot; is grossly inaccurate.  Any third-world country, for sure, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty sure &#8220;any country&#8221; is grossly inaccurate.  Any third-world country, for sure, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-810388</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if supply goes down, price goes up, and they end up making more... Also, 1.5 million is what percent of Nigerian oil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if supply goes down, price goes up, and they end up making more&#8230; Also, 1.5 million is what percent of Nigerian oil?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/more-oil-spilled-in.html#comment-814244</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is bull about how 98% of the oil spill in the niger gulf is cause by gangs who go in with heavy machinery and blow up the pipes wow.. shell is on some b.s. i cant believe it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is bull about how 98% of the oil spill in the niger gulf is cause by gangs who go in with heavy machinery and blow up the pipes wow.. shell is on some b.s. i cant believe it!</p>
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