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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-870657</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, 

Very nice way to piece together a home automation system on a budget. Check out BitWise Controls, www.bitwisecontrols.com,  for another solution that will give you a more flexibility (espcially on the user interface), but not kill the budget. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, </p>
<p>Very nice way to piece together a home automation system on a budget. Check out BitWise Controls, <a href="http://www.bitwisecontrols.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bitwisecontrols.com</a>,  for another solution that will give you a more flexibility (espcially on the user interface), but not kill the budget. </p>
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		<title>By: agraham999</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818439</link>
		<dc:creator>agraham999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I thought about automating my cave but unfortunately there isn&#039;t yet a module for rubbing sticks together.

You be sure to stay non-self righteous yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I thought about automating my cave but unfortunately there isn&#8217;t yet a module for rubbing sticks together.</p>
<p>You be sure to stay non-self righteous yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: coaxial</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818186</link>
		<dc:creator>coaxial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While people are debating the merits of the layout of the control panel.  (Personally I don&#039;t care either way.  If it works, it works.)  I&#039;m more surprised that you&#039;re mounting the iPad on the wall.  Sure, a wall mount looks cool, but given that everything is controlled through wifi, why bother?  To me it seems like you&#039;re just stowing a perfectly good iPad in a place where it could easily fall and break.

What&#039;s wrong with just leaving it on the coffee table, or any place else?  If you want to change the lighting while you&#039;re on the couch, it&#039;s easier to reach.  

Care to share your reasoning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While people are debating the merits of the layout of the control panel.  (Personally I don&#8217;t care either way.  If it works, it works.)  I&#8217;m more surprised that you&#8217;re mounting the iPad on the wall.  Sure, a wall mount looks cool, but given that everything is controlled through wifi, why bother?  To me it seems like you&#8217;re just stowing a perfectly good iPad in a place where it could easily fall and break.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with just leaving it on the coffee table, or any place else?  If you want to change the lighting while you&#8217;re on the couch, it&#8217;s easier to reach.  </p>
<p>Care to share your reasoning?</p>
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		<title>By: Denty632</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818962</link>
		<dc:creator>Denty632</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing system, very impressed, would be intersted in any links to UK sites as I am UK based...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing system, very impressed, would be intersted in any links to UK sites as I am UK based&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DaveP</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817940</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would you please enable tea party brains?  thxbye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would you please enable tea party brains?  thxbye</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818967</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents:

  I also have been doing HA for years, hacked an X10 computer
interface b4 they were commercially available.  I now use 
Insteon/Indigo for lighting/electrical control.  IR control is via
lircd.  I plan on doing something very similar to this project.

Insteon is great stuff, much more reliable than X10, but be aware
it does eat the watts!   The keypad controllers are especially hungry.

I did my first system with about 15 keypad controllers and literally watched my monthly power bill climb by +$25.  Kill-a-watt meters do NOT give an accurate measure of their power consumption, beware.  I retooled, replacing most of the keypad controllers with switchlink  controllers and got the power consumption down to something reasonable.  Remember that every insteon device is a vampire, and you can&#039;t just &quot;unplug when not in use&quot;.

Indigo (perceptive automation)  is great software for controlling 
insteon devices.  It is web based, so you don&#039;t need to deal with
all the &quot;apple app crap&quot; to write your own software (don&#039;t get me
started).  It is based on CherryPy (www.cherrypy.org), which is
a library/paradigm package that embeds a lightweight web 
server in your app.  I am going to use this to create apps
similar to/integrated with indigo for the lircd component of
my system, as well as the other odd components I have acquired
thru the years.

I need to add a way to stream video to the ipad/safari. For
my whole-house music control I rigged up a video monitor camera in front of my sirius satellite receiver.  So you can control
the sirius device via lircd and get video feedback of each step
at any of the hardwired monitors.  Once it gets to the ipad/safari
I can change channels, etc. from anyplace in the house without
having to guess where the last button press actually took me.
This concept could be applied to other devices where &quot;a picture
is worth a thousand icons&quot;.

Steve
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents:</p>
<p>  I also have been doing HA for years, hacked an X10 computer<br />
interface b4 they were commercially available.  I now use<br />
Insteon/Indigo for lighting/electrical control.  IR control is via<br />
lircd.  I plan on doing something very similar to this project.</p>
<p>Insteon is great stuff, much more reliable than X10, but be aware<br />
it does eat the watts!   The keypad controllers are especially hungry.</p>
<p>I did my first system with about 15 keypad controllers and literally watched my monthly power bill climb by +$25.  Kill-a-watt meters do NOT give an accurate measure of their power consumption, beware.  I retooled, replacing most of the keypad controllers with switchlink  controllers and got the power consumption down to something reasonable.  Remember that every insteon device is a vampire, and you can&#8217;t just &#8220;unplug when not in use&#8221;.</p>
<p>Indigo (perceptive automation)  is great software for controlling<br />
insteon devices.  It is web based, so you don&#8217;t need to deal with<br />
all the &#8220;apple app crap&#8221; to write your own software (don&#8217;t get me<br />
started).  It is based on CherryPy (www.cherrypy.org), which is<br />
a library/paradigm package that embeds a lightweight web<br />
server in your app.  I am going to use this to create apps<br />
similar to/integrated with indigo for the lircd component of<br />
my system, as well as the other odd components I have acquired<br />
thru the years.</p>
<p>I need to add a way to stream video to the ipad/safari. For<br />
my whole-house music control I rigged up a video monitor camera in front of my sirius satellite receiver.  So you can control<br />
the sirius device via lircd and get video feedback of each step<br />
at any of the hardwired monitors.  Once it gets to the ipad/safari<br />
I can change channels, etc. from anyplace in the house without<br />
having to guess where the last button press actually took me.<br />
This concept could be applied to other devices where &#8220;a picture<br />
is worth a thousand icons&#8221;.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Stooge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818203</link>
		<dc:creator>Stooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;here are limits to design that can be done with the software running the system considering it is simply an html page without the ability to handle CSS the way I&#039;d like&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This implies that your system &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; handle CSS in some form, which in turn means you may be able to do more than you think: CSS in blocks within the HTML can do everything CSS in stylesheets can, and even if you&#039;re restricted to inline CSS, the only thing you lose is the ability to use pseudo-classes like hover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>here are limits to design that can be done with the software running the system considering it is simply an html page without the ability to handle CSS the way I&#8217;d like</p></blockquote>
<p>This implies that your system <i>can</i> handle CSS in some form, which in turn means you may be able to do more than you think: CSS in blocks within the HTML can do everything CSS in stylesheets can, and even if you&#8217;re restricted to inline CSS, the only thing you lose is the ability to use pseudo-classes like hover.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-848155</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automation Rookie,

Avoid X10 switches, they are slow and unreliable.  In particular
they are disrupted by the use of compact fluorescent lights. 

Insteon is  more reliable, and faster.  Start small, get a keypad
link in the desktop console, a lamp link dimmer, and a switch
link.  You could start with something like this:
http://www.smarthome.com/2490B1/KeypadLinc-INSTEON-Lamp-and-Wall-Dimmer-Control-Kit/p.aspx
add one of these to make testing easier:
http://www.smarthome.com/2402BK/Tabletop-Enclosure-for-KeypadLinc-Black/p.aspx

 Set them up in various places around the house and see
how they work.  You will probably find specific combinations/locations
that fail: noise from appliance motors, lights, etc. can cause
issues.  These usually can be fixed with filters, etc., but you
don&#039;t want to make a large investment in a technology that turns
out to be unusable at your site.

Check the subtle details, a unit might work flawlessly UNTIL the
freezer next to it happens to be running, at which point it
fails completely.  You might find devices that turn on, but fail to
turn off reliably because the device itself creates noise blocking
the &#039;off&#039; signal.

An OK (but not enough detail) book on insteon is:
http://www.smarthome.com/9363/INSTEON-Smarthomes-for-Everyone-Paperback/p.aspx

If you intend to do a more complex  setup, you will find that
insteon (or any other technology) will not do everything
that you need.  You will end up using several different
types, and have to deal with the added complexity of
making them &quot;get along&quot;.  To your list of equipment add
a mac mini (or other low power 24/7 computer) to run
an interface to the devices, as well as a wifi hub to talk to
your iPad:
http://www.smarthome.com/2413U/PowerLinc-Modem-INSTEON-USB-Interface-Dual-Band/p.aspx
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Automation Rookie,</p>
<p>Avoid X10 switches, they are slow and unreliable.  In particular<br />
they are disrupted by the use of compact fluorescent lights. </p>
<p>Insteon is  more reliable, and faster.  Start small, get a keypad<br />
link in the desktop console, a lamp link dimmer, and a switch<br />
link.  You could start with something like this:<br />
<a href="http://www.smarthome.com/2490B1/KeypadLinc-INSTEON-Lamp-and-Wall-Dimmer-Control-Kit/p.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarthome.com/2490B1/KeypadLinc-INSTEON-Lamp-and-Wall-Dimmer-Control-Kit/p.aspx</a><br />
add one of these to make testing easier:<br />
<a href="http://www.smarthome.com/2402BK/Tabletop-Enclosure-for-KeypadLinc-Black/p.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarthome.com/2402BK/Tabletop-Enclosure-for-KeypadLinc-Black/p.aspx</a></p>
<p> Set them up in various places around the house and see<br />
how they work.  You will probably find specific combinations/locations<br />
that fail: noise from appliance motors, lights, etc. can cause<br />
issues.  These usually can be fixed with filters, etc., but you<br />
don&#8217;t want to make a large investment in a technology that turns<br />
out to be unusable at your site.</p>
<p>Check the subtle details, a unit might work flawlessly UNTIL the<br />
freezer next to it happens to be running, at which point it<br />
fails completely.  You might find devices that turn on, but fail to<br />
turn off reliably because the device itself creates noise blocking<br />
the &#8216;off&#8217; signal.</p>
<p>An OK (but not enough detail) book on insteon is:<br />
<a href="http://www.smarthome.com/9363/INSTEON-Smarthomes-for-Everyone-Paperback/p.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarthome.com/9363/INSTEON-Smarthomes-for-Everyone-Paperback/p.aspx</a></p>
<p>If you intend to do a more complex  setup, you will find that<br />
insteon (or any other technology) will not do everything<br />
that you need.  You will end up using several different<br />
types, and have to deal with the added complexity of<br />
making them &#8220;get along&#8221;.  To your list of equipment add<br />
a mac mini (or other low power 24/7 computer) to run<br />
an interface to the devices, as well as a wifi hub to talk to<br />
your iPad:<br />
<a href="http://www.smarthome.com/2413U/PowerLinc-Modem-INSTEON-USB-Interface-Dual-Band/p.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarthome.com/2413U/PowerLinc-Modem-INSTEON-USB-Interface-Dual-Band/p.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: underdesign</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817949</link>
		<dc:creator>underdesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>_Ugly_ User Interface:  You&#039;ve taken a glorious apple product, nearly devoid of buttons, and turned it into a field of blocks of tiny type - almost a windows application, there.   This resembles a bar/restaurant register, which is another example of poor design.

Plus, you really need to describe what &#039;All Lights Off&#039; means?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_Ugly_ User Interface:  You&#8217;ve taken a glorious apple product, nearly devoid of buttons, and turned it into a field of blocks of tiny type &#8211; almost a windows application, there.   This resembles a bar/restaurant register, which is another example of poor design.</p>
<p>Plus, you really need to describe what &#8216;All Lights Off&#8217; means?</p>
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		<title>By: Noodle</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818207</link>
		<dc:creator>Noodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how for _cost reasons_ you have bolted half the apple lineup to your wall. Presumably that meant you had to buy a new iPad for you to use as well? Why does it need upgrading in line with your phone?

By all means, it&#039;s a neat idea but how expensive are the &#039;alternatives&#039; you hinted at really. I just can&#039;t imagine the ipad being an inexpensive solution to anything

-A poor person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how for _cost reasons_ you have bolted half the apple lineup to your wall. Presumably that meant you had to buy a new iPad for you to use as well? Why does it need upgrading in line with your phone?</p>
<p>By all means, it&#8217;s a neat idea but how expensive are the &#8216;alternatives&#8217; you hinted at really. I just can&#8217;t imagine the ipad being an inexpensive solution to anything</p>
<p>-A poor person</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817952</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s all very well and good until the house becomes self-aware and decides to kill you. (Hey, I watch movies.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s all very well and good until the house becomes self-aware and decides to kill you. (Hey, I watch movies.)</p>
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		<title>By: agraham999</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817953</link>
		<dc:creator>agraham999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are limits to design that can be done with the software running the system considering it is simply an html page without the ability to handle CSS the way I&#039;d like...and it has to be spouse and guest friendly. But thanks for the nice review.

You stay classy underdesign!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are limits to design that can be done with the software running the system considering it is simply an html page without the ability to handle CSS the way I&#8217;d like&#8230;and it has to be spouse and guest friendly. But thanks for the nice review.</p>
<p>You stay classy underdesign!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817954</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the carbon emissions used to make/charge your electronics aren&#039;t way more than the savings reaped by this system.

I am not anti-tech by any means but I just use lots of power bars to turn off my vampire devices and seem to have the same savings without spending thousands on gadgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the carbon emissions used to make/charge your electronics aren&#8217;t way more than the savings reaped by this system.</p>
<p>I am not anti-tech by any means but I just use lots of power bars to turn off my vampire devices and seem to have the same savings without spending thousands on gadgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Manjunath D S</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817955</link>
		<dc:creator>Manjunath D S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting home automation system. Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting home automation system. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: agraham999</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817956</link>
		<dc:creator>agraham999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to follow whenever I add a new feature or ask me questions on how to build any of this, feel free to ping me on Twitter @agraham999</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to follow whenever I add a new feature or ask me questions on how to build any of this, feel free to ping me on Twitter @agraham999</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-819237</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan, 

This seems like a great idea to me. Out of curiosity, what size magnet did you use? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan, </p>
<p>This seems like a great idea to me. Out of curiosity, what size magnet did you use? </p>
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		<title>By: Doug Watt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817958</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Watt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is very cool! So, you are the one responsible for the Tea Party, you&#039;d better hit that button before you go on vacation. Are you using all off the shelf wireless electrical socket controllers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is very cool! So, you are the one responsible for the Tea Party, you&#8217;d better hit that button before you go on vacation. Are you using all off the shelf wireless electrical socket controllers?</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818728</link>
		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may find this interesting: http://www.savantav.com/apple_ipad_control.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may find this interesting: <a href="http://www.savantav.com/apple_ipad_control.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.savantav.com/apple_ipad_control.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818731</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were your pet sitter, I would never feel comfortable walking into your house if I knew there were cameras watching!  That&#039;s the only creepy part; otherwise, good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were your pet sitter, I would never feel comfortable walking into your house if I knew there were cameras watching!  That&#8217;s the only creepy part; otherwise, good work.</p>
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		<title>By: jfdonohoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817964</link>
		<dc:creator>jfdonohoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - The sonos iPad controller is coming soon.  http://www.sonos.com/landing/ipad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; The sonos iPad controller is coming soon.  <a href="http://www.sonos.com/landing/ipad" rel="nofollow">http://www.sonos.com/landing/ipad</a></p>
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		<title>By: agraham999</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817969</link>
		<dc:creator>agraham999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All my gear is off the shelf Insteon...which you can get from http://smarthome.com and the software is http://perceptiveautomation.com combined with Growl, Applescript, EvoCam, some google stuff. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All my gear is off the shelf Insteon&#8230;which you can get from <a href="http://smarthome.com" rel="nofollow">http://smarthome.com</a> and the software is <a href="http://perceptiveautomation.com" rel="nofollow">http://perceptiveautomation.com</a> combined with Growl, Applescript, EvoCam, some google stuff. etc.</p>
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		<title>By: hungryjoe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818738</link>
		<dc:creator>hungryjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was more interested in this when I misread the title as &quot;iPad Home Automaton.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was more interested in this when I misread the title as &#8220;iPad Home Automaton.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pitkataistelu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817972</link>
		<dc:creator>pitkataistelu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting!

Have you done any research into the total amount of power consumed by the monitoring system around the clock (i.e. timers, motion detectors, iMacs, iPad, cameras, displays)?

Most of this probably wouldn&#039;t be worth it for me, as I&#039;m keener on energy savings than on having a Star Trek house. I mean, when I go to bed it makes more sense to switch off the lights than to tell a timer to switch them off in ten minutes. Still, cool stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting!</p>
<p>Have you done any research into the total amount of power consumed by the monitoring system around the clock (i.e. timers, motion detectors, iMacs, iPad, cameras, displays)?</p>
<p>Most of this probably wouldn&#8217;t be worth it for me, as I&#8217;m keener on energy savings than on having a Star Trek house. I mean, when I go to bed it makes more sense to switch off the lights than to tell a timer to switch them off in ten minutes. Still, cool stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818230</link>
		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a pretty cool little hobby but using an iPad for this?  Yikes!  That is a pretty expensive way to get touch capability for something that really doesn&#039;t need all of that shinny well marketed proprietary plastic to function.  Unless Apple has a complete reversal in their marketing strategies and hardware design, I really doubt that you are going to see Apple touch screens serving any other function than as consumer devices.

I expect that Android is the far more likely to be the OS of choice for such things.  It isn&#039;t because Android has any great technical leg up (though the Apple lock down isn&#039;t terribly useful if you are only using it as a kiosk), but because you can slap Android onto any cheap stripped down touch screen computer and it will happily chug along.  A bare bones pad with nothing more exotic than a USB port and maybe a microphone will give you the exact same functionality as a shinny iPad while at the same time padding your ass with a few hundred extra dollars.  I really just can&#039;t envision Apple offering anything to fill the &#039;cheap as humanly possible&#039; niche, which is pretty much what you want in a kiosk style touch screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a pretty cool little hobby but using an iPad for this?  Yikes!  That is a pretty expensive way to get touch capability for something that really doesn&#8217;t need all of that shinny well marketed proprietary plastic to function.  Unless Apple has a complete reversal in their marketing strategies and hardware design, I really doubt that you are going to see Apple touch screens serving any other function than as consumer devices.</p>
<p>I expect that Android is the far more likely to be the OS of choice for such things.  It isn&#8217;t because Android has any great technical leg up (though the Apple lock down isn&#8217;t terribly useful if you are only using it as a kiosk), but because you can slap Android onto any cheap stripped down touch screen computer and it will happily chug along.  A bare bones pad with nothing more exotic than a USB port and maybe a microphone will give you the exact same functionality as a shinny iPad while at the same time padding your ass with a few hundred extra dollars.  I really just can&#8217;t envision Apple offering anything to fill the &#8216;cheap as humanly possible&#8217; niche, which is pretty much what you want in a kiosk style touch screen.</p>
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		<title>By: agraham999</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817976</link>
		<dc:creator>agraham999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also...if you want to see more of the &quot;bones&quot; of my system, here are some older photos with the Nokia N800 and all the controllers http://tinyurl.com/bqktp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also&#8230;if you want to see more of the &#8220;bones&#8221; of my system, here are some older photos with the Nokia N800 and all the controllers <a href="http://tinyurl.com/bqktp3" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/bqktp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Frauenfelder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Plus, you really need to describe what &#039;All Lights Off&#039; means?&quot;

Same thing that happens when you get tired of watching your ultimate fighting and monster truck videos and pull the cord on the lightbulb to go to sleep in your mom&#039;s basement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Plus, you really need to describe what &#8216;All Lights Off&#8217; means?&#8221;</p>
<p>Same thing that happens when you get tired of watching your ultimate fighting and monster truck videos and pull the cord on the lightbulb to go to sleep in your mom&#8217;s basement.</p>
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		<title>By: Island Bird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-843066</link>
		<dc:creator>Island Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand you&#039;re putting together an e-book, perhaps &quot;Automation for Dummies&quot;. I would like to see a draft as soon as it&#039;s available. I&#039;m looking for information on how to start. Do I just buy a handful of X10 switches, download an iPad program and, zoom, I&#039;m ready to go... or are there other factors.

Automation Rookie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand you&#8217;re putting together an e-book, perhaps &#8220;Automation for Dummies&#8221;. I would like to see a draft as soon as it&#8217;s available. I&#8217;m looking for information on how to start. Do I just buy a handful of X10 switches, download an iPad program and, zoom, I&#8217;m ready to go&#8230; or are there other factors.</p>
<p>Automation Rookie</p>
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		<title>By: GeekMan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817979</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stow your Apple-rage, sir. Look closer.

See how the author has grouped the functions together based on colour, and has provided himself with some shortcuts to execute series of frequently-combined functions? The key to a good, Mac-like interface is a minimal approach focusing on the most often-used functions. Style is a secondary concern, and I think the minimal approach looks good; probably a lot better than a grid of smaller, semi-embossed icons in a vain attempt to duplicate the iOS springboard.

UI form follows function, not the other way around. But if you think you can do better, let&#039;s see it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stow your Apple-rage, sir. Look closer.</p>
<p>See how the author has grouped the functions together based on colour, and has provided himself with some shortcuts to execute series of frequently-combined functions? The key to a good, Mac-like interface is a minimal approach focusing on the most often-used functions. Style is a secondary concern, and I think the minimal approach looks good; probably a lot better than a grid of smaller, semi-embossed icons in a vain attempt to duplicate the iOS springboard.</p>
<p>UI form follows function, not the other way around. But if you think you can do better, let&#8217;s see it!</p>
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		<title>By: ikera</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-818237</link>
		<dc:creator>ikera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok this guy is Moby&#039;s friend. Now beat that.

http://ikera.tumblr.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok this guy is Moby&#8217;s friend. Now beat that.</p>
<p><a href="http://ikera.tumblr.com" rel="nofollow">http://ikera.tumblr.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: oasisob1</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/06/24/ipad-home-automation.html#comment-817983</link>
		<dc:creator>oasisob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C,WAA. I assume from your comments that you would design a better interface, and build it, and program it?

I&#039;m pretty impressed with the whole thing. I got one of those graphic light timers from thinkgeek.com and I&#039;m proud of myself for being able to program it for a vacation. Alan demonstrates clearly what it means to be a Happy Mutant Make. I love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C,WAA. I assume from your comments that you would design a better interface, and build it, and program it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty impressed with the whole thing. I got one of those graphic light timers from thinkgeek.com and I&#8217;m proud of myself for being able to program it for a vacation. Alan demonstrates clearly what it means to be a Happy Mutant Make. I love it.</p>
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