Comments on: Planck's first image of space, past and present

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

A question for Anon #8: How exactly would one “test faith”? Most religious people I know tell me that the whole point is that they believe without evidence (and in practice that means despite it).

And here’s a helpful suggestion: Check out what the word “theory” really means, and you will discover why creationists make themselves sound so unbelievably stupid when they say evolution is only a theory. It’s like saying Christianity is only a belief.

By: thehamsterman

thehamsterman — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

really neat. stuff like this really gets me upset at people who are so against the idea of the big bang. i can’t comprehend why people in my area (midwest usa) firmly believe that creationism was the way that the world/universe was formed. also, i think that link to the ESA is broken

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

but what happened/existed BEFORE the big bang, friend?

By: robulus

robulus — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

*start David Attenborough*

And here we see the Creationist Troll in it’s natural environment. This seemingly ubiquitous organism is highly adaptable, and can bend it’s argument to fit all manner of unlikely discussion. In this case, it’s managed to gain some nutriment from a blog item that shows science gaining incremental knowledge about the origins of our universe.

We’ll be careful not to disturb him, as he will generally flitter away quite quickly, but if agitated may stay, and adopt an aggresive stance.

This is generally considered to part of an elaborate substitute for mating.

*end David Attenborough*

By: Felton

Felton — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Mr. Attenborough, you forgot to caution against feeding this not-so-elusive animal, as it will then never go away.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

“If God is all powerful then why should God have to do everything in less than 5k years.”

how do you know what is 5k years to God? He doesn’t even exist in out dimension.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Breathtaking image! On that somewhat diversionary other topic, evolution has happened, is happening and will continue to happen, and attempts to prevent our schools from teaching this fact are misguided. But hey, it’s a free country! And we all have to respect Hans Kung’s query: “Why is there something instead of nothing?”

By: AnthonyC

AnthonyC — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

“It’s like saying Christianity is only a belief.”

Good point. Never heard it put that way before.

By: InfinityNow

InfinityNow — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Anon#8:

Most non-believers are not claiming that God does not exist, though they obviously do not believe explicitly that he does. As the ones making the claim (as to the existence of whatever minor or major deity), creationists have the burden of proof.

Statements like, “God made the big bang happen in one way or another” presuppose quite a lot, don’t you think? First, it presupposes the existence of a deity, presumably the Judeo-Christian God YWHW; it further goes on to posit this divine presence as being the primary mover in the known universe. Secondly, it presumes that the big bang, which happens to be a theory, just like the theory of evolution you so readily cast aside, is what actually happened. Excuse me if I say so, but I believe that you misunderstand how science works. A theory isn’t absolute truth, nor is it law. It is a picture, painted and tested from an early hypothesis, of the best explanation we have for a given thing. It is not infallible, unlike Mister YWHW, who is indeed a jealous God. It is open to change over time, to addition, to subtraction, to testable and verifiable extrapolations.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Now THAT would make a damn good-looking t-shirt.

By: Ugly Canuck

Ugly Canuck — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

That map’s pretty far out, man.

By: Ugly Canuck

Ugly Canuck — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Well, whatever happened , of course.

By: Michele Lorito-Chase

Michele Lorito-Chase — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Very beautiful. Yes, it would make an awesome T-Shirt.: ) I look forward to seeing more.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

well, whatever it was, it sure wasn’t a bearded white man

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

You argue that scientist should test faith, what a silly concept. The point is to believe in that which you know is untestable, you believe because of faith. Creationism is untestable because there is nothing to test. Science has already shone without doubt that the Universe is more that 4 billion years old. What insults me is the requirement among creationist that God be a magic user and that we must be stupid and ignore reality. If God is all powerful then why should God have to do everything in less than 5k years. Why would God not use molecular biology, DNA to create his creation. There is a third way that I would call the Devine Designer approach where God is simply the moving force behind that actions that science has found. Instead creationists continue to require ignorance. Itâ€™s pretty pathetic.

By: imag

imag — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks! – That is a fantastic site.

By: blackfeathers

blackfeathers — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

the image looks like an expanded, layout view of a doctor who time vortex. awesome.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

the bearded white man theory is for people who just want to discredit those who believe in creation. I would like to ask the “Evolutionists” a question. Why is it that science is based on experimentation of all possibilities yet they refuse to test faith? It is this point exactly that makes “evolutionist” who, by the way, are named after a theory and not a fact, look like the anti-scientists. Evolutionism is a mockery of everything that science is supposed to stand for. God made the big bang happen in one way or another. You “evolutionist” will never be able to prove that God does not exist. And, God, is not some white-bearded man. God is an entity higher than man.

By: davecl

davecl — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

You can read more about Planck at the Planck Mission Blog:

planckmission.wordpress.com

By: PaulR

PaulR — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Go here:
http://www.chromoscope.net/

Go now. Just go there.

Chromoscope is kindly funded by the Cardiff University Astronomy and Astronomy Instrumentation Groups.

Just wow!