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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-825978</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the artificial intelligence(stupidity) system with the huge database of personal information that really frightens me.  There is this idea among some people that once it comes out of a computer it is the truth, this is making life hell on free citizens, think no-fly list.

It should be illegal for anyone to request your credit history, in fact since I am against the structure of the current debt slavery banking system I am against the existence of any internetworked credit database for individual humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the artificial intelligence(stupidity) system with the huge database of personal information that really frightens me.  There is this idea among some people that once it comes out of a computer it is the truth, this is making life hell on free citizens, think no-fly list.</p>
<p>It should be illegal for anyone to request your credit history, in fact since I am against the structure of the current debt slavery banking system I am against the existence of any internetworked credit database for individual humans.</p>
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		<title>By: KWillets</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-826237</link>
		<dc:creator>KWillets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a lot of facts or figures there.  People with poor credit crash more often because they drive more?  Why spend a paragraph claiming that without any numbers to back it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a lot of facts or figures there.  People with poor credit crash more often because they drive more?  Why spend a paragraph claiming that without any numbers to back it up?</p>
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		<title>By: pixleshifter</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-825985</link>
		<dc:creator>pixleshifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The image above is of HAL from 2001.
If you transpose the letters H.A.L. forward one place in the alphabet, you end up with IBM.
Always wondered if that was intentional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The image above is of HAL from 2001.<br />
If you transpose the letters H.A.L. forward one place in the alphabet, you end up with IBM.<br />
Always wondered if that was intentional.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-825989</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a pretty good article that, unfortunately, raises more questions than it addresses.

I&#039;m also skeptical of anyone who favourable includes references to Freakonomics or anything by Jared Diamond. Both of these sources use methods so unsound and so uproven than I have a hard time accepting /any/ conclusions or assertions suggested by them.

Finally, the author seems to contradict himself in order to make his points.  First, we are given a series of arguments for why certain safety changes are statistically undermined by the &quot;natural&quot; tendency for people to adopt riskier behaviour. He even cites the incredibly flawed &quot;cyclists in in helmets and other gear are riskier than cyclists in their underwear&quot; which is a complete farce (and better critiqued elsewhere.)

Then, only a few paragraphs later, suggests that you can&#039;t do a certain kind of study &quot;because the people who naturally wear seatbelts are more likely to be naturally cautious drivers.&quot;

Well, which is it? Do safety changes make us more or less prone to risky behaviour? Just because drivers are more likely to wear seatbelts does not necessarily make them more cautious. Wearing seatbelts is the law, and refusing to wear them can lead to heavy fines and even points of your license. So you can be a prudent, but incautious driver even if you wear your seatbelts religiously.

There is a lot here, and the article is otherwise a reasonable discussion of changes in computer mediated industrial design that are sure to impact us at some point.

But, I&#039;m a little surprised at how sloppy the overall tone is, given that the author&#039;s aim seems to be to provide opinion with a healthy dose of rigour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a pretty good article that, unfortunately, raises more questions than it addresses.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also skeptical of anyone who favourable includes references to Freakonomics or anything by Jared Diamond. Both of these sources use methods so unsound and so uproven than I have a hard time accepting /any/ conclusions or assertions suggested by them.</p>
<p>Finally, the author seems to contradict himself in order to make his points.  First, we are given a series of arguments for why certain safety changes are statistically undermined by the &#8220;natural&#8221; tendency for people to adopt riskier behaviour. He even cites the incredibly flawed &#8220;cyclists in in helmets and other gear are riskier than cyclists in their underwear&#8221; which is a complete farce (and better critiqued elsewhere.)</p>
<p>Then, only a few paragraphs later, suggests that you can&#8217;t do a certain kind of study &#8220;because the people who naturally wear seatbelts are more likely to be naturally cautious drivers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, which is it? Do safety changes make us more or less prone to risky behaviour? Just because drivers are more likely to wear seatbelts does not necessarily make them more cautious. Wearing seatbelts is the law, and refusing to wear them can lead to heavy fines and even points of your license. So you can be a prudent, but incautious driver even if you wear your seatbelts religiously.</p>
<p>There is a lot here, and the article is otherwise a reasonable discussion of changes in computer mediated industrial design that are sure to impact us at some point.</p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m a little surprised at how sloppy the overall tone is, given that the author&#8217;s aim seems to be to provide opinion with a healthy dose of rigour.</p>
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		<title>By: Chocolatey Shatner</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-826258</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolatey Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What will it mean when our computers know everything â€” every single fact, the entirety of human knowledge â€” but can only reason at the level of a cockroach?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It will mean that SkyNet is ready to launch the nukes...</description>
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<p>It will mean that SkyNet is ready to launch the nukes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-826003</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thing about people and the necessary components of their psychological makeup -- we pick something to &quot;trust&quot;. For introverted social pariahs this is often math or science (what we see as empirical facts in any case) but most places we are the minority, and the majority trust people, or at least certain people.

Social types are the salespeople and CEOs, and the public interface of any organization. All marketing, legal, retail, and communications are dominated by social thinking. Of course people are better than machines, because machines are alien to the social thinker. Engineers, scientists, and mathematicians cloister themselves for the sake of their work, and see a hostile world every time they look up, so back to work they go.

When I was young, they explained unemployment with one word, &#039;automation&#039; -- great idea! Everyone does less tedious and repetitive work! Only in my twenties did I realise &#039;automation&#039; was actually code for &#039;chinese sweatshops&#039; which helped nobody except maybe Sam Walton.

Decent weak AI is heaven for a techie, useful for anyone with half a brain, and (as always) disastrous for those who don&#039;t know how to use it or what it&#039;s for. Case in point: Wikipedia.

So bring on the real automation and self-driving cars! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thing about people and the necessary components of their psychological makeup &#8212; we pick something to &#8220;trust&#8221;. For introverted social pariahs this is often math or science (what we see as empirical facts in any case) but most places we are the minority, and the majority trust people, or at least certain people.</p>
<p>Social types are the salespeople and CEOs, and the public interface of any organization. All marketing, legal, retail, and communications are dominated by social thinking. Of course people are better than machines, because machines are alien to the social thinker. Engineers, scientists, and mathematicians cloister themselves for the sake of their work, and see a hostile world every time they look up, so back to work they go.</p>
<p>When I was young, they explained unemployment with one word, &#8216;automation&#8217; &#8212; great idea! Everyone does less tedious and repetitive work! Only in my twenties did I realise &#8216;automation&#8217; was actually code for &#8216;chinese sweatshops&#8217; which helped nobody except maybe Sam Walton.</p>
<p>Decent weak AI is heaven for a techie, useful for anyone with half a brain, and (as always) disastrous for those who don&#8217;t know how to use it or what it&#8217;s for. Case in point: Wikipedia.</p>
<p>So bring on the real automation and self-driving cars! </p>
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		<title>By: s243a</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-826011</link>
		<dc:creator>s243a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware this was and advancement. People have been looking for correlations in data for a long long time. Perhaps they are using some new technique? I agree though that correlating driving credit is kind of stupid. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware this was and advancement. People have been looking for correlations in data for a long long time. Perhaps they are using some new technique? I agree though that correlating driving credit is kind of stupid. </p>
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		<title>By: TEKNA2007</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/05/steve-steinberg-on-w.html#comment-826283</link>
		<dc:creator>TEKNA2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technology wants to be free!

And it will run you over in a chrome-alloy mech to get what it wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology wants to be free!</p>
<p>And it will run you over in a chrome-alloy mech to get what it wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Locobot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Locobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh-hah okay, the hacker group Legion of Doom, not the WWF tag-team.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh-hah okay, the hacker group Legion of Doom, not the WWF tag-team.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I don&#039;t understand: Why design a car that lets you not think about guard rails? Either remove the guard rails or START THINKING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t understand: Why design a car that lets you not think about guard rails? Either remove the guard rails or START THINKING.</p>
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