Comments on: Brazil's copyright law forbids using DRM to block fair use

By: Sara

Sara — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

@dardas:
Murder Rates:
you *do* realize that today many, many US cities have for bigger murder rates than your so-called crime-ridden Sao Paula?
http://www.emergingsouth.net/lode-delputte-in-de-morgen-on-sao-paulo-check-your-facts/
Even crime rate in Washington is on-par with crime-rate in Washington.
Things changed a lot in Brazil the past decennium, for the better.

By: TNGMug

TNGMug — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Johnwraps,

That’s some serious, and silly, conjecture to suppose that popular formats that contain DRM are popular *because* they contain DRM. That’s like saying that McDonalds hamburgers are popular because they’re bad for your heart.

Netflix offers a whole lot more then just DRM.

By: ukcannonfodder

ukcannonfodder — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

at least one country’s government isn’t under the control of big media!

when a “democratic” government makes deals behind closed doors for the benefit of a corporations at the loss to their people whom they serve, its called fascism.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

this is fair and easy to understand. thank you for pointing it out, brazil.

.~.

By: slk

slk — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

johnwraps, that is the most ridiculous argument i’ve ever heard. you are either a corporate shill or blatantly ignorant.

zio_donnie was correct, the mass majority of people have no idea what DRM is… ask around. also the majority of people choose what is easy as opposed to what is right. look at diets, political choices (not Dem vs. Rep, that is not a choice), lifestyles, etc.

luckily things are moving towards a real freedom of media which is why the industries are fighting more. the last acts of a desperate entity.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Hello, sorry if my English is a drug right now, I’m still learning this language yet. I am Brazilian, I notice as a geographer in fact a loss of rights in the European and North American world, could include several reasons for such actions in a more special is the fact that this world does not really matter with the individual human right , only with the most amount of profit that will have on each other, not caring about anything else. And thank you for those comments of my country, demonstrates the fact that the world recognizes, as we suffer with a large media control in Brazil.

By: CastanhasDoPara

CastanhasDoPara — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Yet another reason why Brasil is on the top of my list of favorite places.

@turn-self-off#8, Indeed. My fears exactly. I just hope that this time around Brasil can fight them off long enough to become their own type of super-power.

@Dardas#10, It will take time for Brasil to recover from the decades of dictatorship and backward policies foisted upon them by the neighborhood bully, uh I mean the US/IMF.

So basically, it’s a hard place that Brasil is in now and probably will be in for a while but I think that they can pull this off. And I wish them all the best in that fight. Eu sou com vocÃª meus irmÃ£os.

By: Zac

Zac — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Seems like there isn’t a day that goes by when I don’t hear something awesome about Brazil.

Maybe I should start brushing up on my Portuguese.

By: Humorrai

Humorrai — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Hello, I am Brazilian, currently follow a career as a geographer, see the discussion on this topic I found interesting that there are opinions about law and individual human rights. By following the current world order North American, and unfolds as his economic policies, and easy to see (and not difficult to see any human being) that the loss of individual rights is something growing, some means to protect the rights of big corporations and maintain the domestic industrial monopoly, look how many times renowned companies of the United States had or still has lawsuits by European handling, breaking monopoly and consumer rights
Forgiveness to some users, speaking of Brazil in relation to crime, and disregard that such occurrence of violence in the United States do not occur, the world asks for changes, the human system needs to change, and to begin human values have to go back and stop this insane control of the corporations that only view the profit and nothing else.

By: BillRodman

BillRodman — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

If I understand Cory’s reading of the Brazilian law correctly, it implies that rights holders who use DRM must provide the key so that users can exercise their fair dealing rights. As the bad guys (those who violate copyright laws outside of fair dealing) have always had (and probably will always have) the DRM key, it would mean that everybody would have the key and thus DRM is totally unnecessary. A (c) on the material would suffice to protect it under the law.

(I am all for this, by the way).

By: expatagogo

expatagogo — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Brasil has been showing itself to be a bucket full of awesome lately. It’s things like this that remind me why I moved here. :)

I wonder how the new law will be used on cracking down on piracy, though. I skimmed through the original doc, but didn’t see many changes on the parts concerning the mass producers and vendors of pirated material. Piracy is beyond rampant here.

As for media control, Brasil is locked down tight to it’s few major media outlets. Even though they stifle competition and stay within the generally accepted political/social views, they’re not as prickish about it as the media outlets in the States are.

By: johnwraps

johnwraps — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

DRM is the reason the formats are popular, at least indirectly; without DRM, the content creators would never have released any material.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Wtf? That is totally nonsense. Consumers want simple and easy things. iTunes is easier than a CD. DRM must be transparent otherwise will keep consumers away.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

For this and many many thing i feel very proud of my country. We have a lot of things to improve but i know we are doing hard. I loved to listen your comments and i would like to thank you all for your good opinions. I do agree DRM is a bad thing but our law institutions are far from ballanced but that is most because of the people ruling them. Any way you are all wellcome here! Thank you.

By: Dewi Morgan

Dewi Morgan — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Brazil gets copyright better, and Dubai gets privacy rights better than we do. What’s the world coming to?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I’m Brazillian and i live in Brazil,finally something good in our laws, Brazil is a beatifull place to live and is a very happy country but our constitution and laws sucks, most of them.

By: Paul Keller

Paul Keller — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I think this post is a bit misleading since the claim that ‘brazil has just created the best ever implementation’ is simply not true.

if you look at Michael Geist’s original post you will see that, ‘Brazil recently unveiled its much anticipated copyright reform proposal and it provides a statutory example of applying this principle.’

a copyright reform proposal is something else than an actual implementation (which would require the proposal to be adopted). let’s hope that this will happen soon…

By: Daedalus

Daedalus — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Yay for Brazil!

You are now rivaling Iceland and India for the place I will move to when my home nation decides to elect Sarah Palin in 2012. ;)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Content creators existed before DRM, too.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

@johnwraps ,

Your arguments are what are known as a Logical Fallacy. May you find this Wikipedia article enlightening:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Eeeexcept the content creators often release material on Amazon mp3 and other places similar to iTunes that don’t have DRM.

There are many reasons iTunes is popular, but it’s not necessarily DRM.

-Mar

By: hardwarejunkie9

hardwarejunkie9 — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

First of all, johnwraps, if users wanted DRM on their music, you’d be hard-pressed to explain the sudden rise of Amazon MP3 as opposed to ITunes. After the failure of several DRM’d music services, it should be apparent that the main reason was a DRM FREE service.

Also, Apple seemed to consider it enough of a threat to remove DRM.

What “security” does DRM offer users? The security of not being able to back up their own music? I made the mistake of buying a single DRM’d album and I still can’t get access to the music that *I* bought.

I’ll second the accusation that you’re likely a corporate shill. You can collect your paycheck all that you want, but no amount of insisting that we want your broken goods will make it true.

By: bobhughes

bobhughes — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Funny, that never stopped content producers from releasing cassettes, in spite of the corporate sky-is-falling tears & vomit about how cassettes will destroy music. It didn’t stop them from producing CD’s in the era of cheap CD burners, either. And when Sony or someone finally added DRM rootkits to audio discs, I (along with many, many others) stopped buying them until someone found a way to defeat the rootkit. C’mon, even corporate shills have better info than this… worst troll ever.

By: turn_self_off

turn_self_off — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

time for the economic hitmen and their jackal companions to descend on brazil in force.

By: edgore

edgore — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

That was my thought as well – if Brazil’s fair use laws are at all similar to the U.S.’s there is no situation I can think of where a digital lock would *not* prevent fair use, and therefore be illegal. I mean, even with a 1-day limited digital rented movie it would be fair use for an educator to take a 5 second clip to use in the class room forever.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Quoting Wikipedia ? Mhuahauhauhuahuhauhauhau !! Are you kidding me ?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

laws are just laws…
i live in brazil, i am a law student… you have to pay atention in two things, the law and the aplicability of that law… in brazil, we have one of the most improved systems of laws in the world… but out of the laws field, just dont have functionality.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Brazil have made some good exemples to the world in
several ways…

By: dardas

dardas — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

While very heartening, Brazil has such a high crime-rate, it’s not as if these laws have any real meaning.
seriously, over 5 times higher murder rate than the already quite trigger happy states.

By: slk

slk — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

well, american’s don’t live in a democracy, so i guess that makes sense.