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		<title>By: Felton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849665</link>
		<dc:creator>Felton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You drove 120 through L.A. in that thing?  You&#039;re braver than I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You drove 120 through L.A. in that thing?  You&#8217;re braver than I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave F</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849921</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if this had happened in any UK city it would all have been on some CCTV or other. How much expectation of privacy would the cop have had THEN?&quot;

In the UK, the cop would have known that all footage would have gone to a police station where the material would have been carefully examined [...] and if there was anything embarrassing to the cop, it would shortly have become &quot;lost&quot; or &quot;faulty&quot;, never to be seen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if this had happened in any UK city it would all have been on some CCTV or other. How much expectation of privacy would the cop have had THEN?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the UK, the cop would have known that all footage would have gone to a police station where the material would have been carefully examined [...] and if there was anything embarrassing to the cop, it would shortly have become &#8220;lost&#8221; or &#8220;faulty&#8221;, never to be seen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849410</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All police cars have video camera and they record there traffic stops. You are not notified of these recordings at the time of the stop.

So I would say that the police would be guilty of the same &quot;Crime&quot;.  
The city decided to go forward with this legal maneuver.   


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All police cars have video camera and they record there traffic stops. You are not notified of these recordings at the time of the stop.</p>
<p>So I would say that the police would be guilty of the same &#8220;Crime&#8221;.<br />
The city decided to go forward with this legal maneuver.   </p>
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		<title>By: Dave H</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849666</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the bottom line is this:  There probably is no law in MD that comes close to what Anthony Graber did.  Is there a statute making it illegal to intentionally act like an idiot to provoke a cop on video? The charges were the closest thing they had to the actual situation.

Graber probably cooked the whole thing up for his 15 seconds of YouTube fame.  I wonder how many cases of exterme motorcycle a$$holiness they found on his computers.  They should nail him on every traffic violation they find on his hard drive.  Essentially each one the cops find is a confession.  But they probably can&#039;t because it would violate his civil rights.

Uhler did draw his weapon, but Graber KNEW he was being pursued by cops not some road-raged NRA member.  With the patrol car&#039;s lights on close behind him he would have had to be blind not to know.  Graber did try to back up, and it looked to me like he was considering bolting between the two cars. Not an unlikely case given his recent behavior.  
Uhler did not show a badge, but to do so at the time, would have required him to lose full control of his weapon.  His identifying himself as a cop was maybe late, but Graber knew the cops were there.

Too bad this shite-for brains will probably walk with only a traffic ticket.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the bottom line is this:  There probably is no law in MD that comes close to what Anthony Graber did.  Is there a statute making it illegal to intentionally act like an idiot to provoke a cop on video? The charges were the closest thing they had to the actual situation.</p>
<p>Graber probably cooked the whole thing up for his 15 seconds of YouTube fame.  I wonder how many cases of exterme motorcycle a$$holiness they found on his computers.  They should nail him on every traffic violation they find on his hard drive.  Essentially each one the cops find is a confession.  But they probably can&#8217;t because it would violate his civil rights.</p>
<p>Uhler did draw his weapon, but Graber KNEW he was being pursued by cops not some road-raged NRA member.  With the patrol car&#8217;s lights on close behind him he would have had to be blind not to know.  Graber did try to back up, and it looked to me like he was considering bolting between the two cars. Not an unlikely case given his recent behavior.<br />
Uhler did not show a badge, but to do so at the time, would have required him to lose full control of his weapon.  His identifying himself as a cop was maybe late, but Graber knew the cops were there.</p>
<p>Too bad this shite-for brains will probably walk with only a traffic ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: JavaMoose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849667</link>
		<dc:creator>JavaMoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You wanna know what is only ever used exclusively as a deadly weapon?

A gun.&quot;

Really?  Exclusively?  Funny, since I like to skeet shoot and enjoy target shooting and plinking.  So, what exactly am I killing when I do those activities, since guns are exclusively a deadly weapon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You wanna know what is only ever used exclusively as a deadly weapon?</p>
<p>A gun.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  Exclusively?  Funny, since I like to skeet shoot and enjoy target shooting and plinking.  So, what exactly am I killing when I do those activities, since guns are exclusively a deadly weapon?</p>
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		<title>By: frozenfowler</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849412</link>
		<dc:creator>frozenfowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching the video and zooming in on this guys speedometer you can see that at times he was going upwards of 130 MPH on a crowded road. he was a danger to all of those around him. The officer did the right thing. when he saw that the situation was under control he holstered his weapon. of course the issue here is the charges he is facing for the video taping and posting. everyone knows that these charges are not going to stick. the motorcyclist was being a prick driver and then whining about how unfair he was treated by posting the video. they only want to make him jump through some hoops.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the video and zooming in on this guys speedometer you can see that at times he was going upwards of 130 MPH on a crowded road. he was a danger to all of those around him. The officer did the right thing. when he saw that the situation was under control he holstered his weapon. of course the issue here is the charges he is facing for the video taping and posting. everyone knows that these charges are not going to stick. the motorcyclist was being a prick driver and then whining about how unfair he was treated by posting the video. they only want to make him jump through some hoops.  </p>
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		<title>By: SKR</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849413</link>
		<dc:creator>SKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maryland&#039;s law covers more than  just electronic communications.  It also cover the recording of oral communications.  Although they do have an expectation of privacy clause.  I can&#039;t imagine how there is an expectation of privacy here.  One way to get around all these wiretapping laws would be to disable the audio on the camera as video isn&#039;t an issue.

&lt;i&gt;If I don&#039;t get an expectation of privacy working on a laptop at an open-air cafe, someone charging around on a public road DEFINITELY doesn&#039;t.&lt;/i&gt;

But they are police not people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maryland&#8217;s law covers more than  just electronic communications.  It also cover the recording of oral communications.  Although they do have an expectation of privacy clause.  I can&#8217;t imagine how there is an expectation of privacy here.  One way to get around all these wiretapping laws would be to disable the audio on the camera as video isn&#8217;t an issue.</p>
<p><i>If I don&#8217;t get an expectation of privacy working on a laptop at an open-air cafe, someone charging around on a public road DEFINITELY doesn&#8217;t.</i></p>
<p>But they are police not people.</p>
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		<title>By: JavaMoose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849669</link>
		<dc:creator>JavaMoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;here probably is no law in MD that comes close to what Anthony Graber did. Is there a statute making it illegal to intentionally act like an idiot to provoke a cop on video? The charges were the closest thing they had to the actual situation.&quot;

Except, you know, the felony speeding they can (and are) charging him with.  Along with reckless driving, etc etc.

No, charging him with wiretapping is purely a revenge tactic for the local PD in response to him putting the video up on youtube.  

I don&#039;t think the cops really did anything wrong on the stop, the undercover/off-duty didn&#039;t even have his finger on or in the trigger guard and never pointed it at the rider.  But, they clearly don&#039;t like the attention that they are getting from the video being posted.  IF he had never posted the video of the stop, we would have never heard of this story because it would have been one of a million traffic stops and been no big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;here probably is no law in MD that comes close to what Anthony Graber did. Is there a statute making it illegal to intentionally act like an idiot to provoke a cop on video? The charges were the closest thing they had to the actual situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except, you know, the felony speeding they can (and are) charging him with.  Along with reckless driving, etc etc.</p>
<p>No, charging him with wiretapping is purely a revenge tactic for the local PD in response to him putting the video up on youtube.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the cops really did anything wrong on the stop, the undercover/off-duty didn&#8217;t even have his finger on or in the trigger guard and never pointed it at the rider.  But, they clearly don&#8217;t like the attention that they are getting from the video being posted.  IF he had never posted the video of the stop, we would have never heard of this story because it would have been one of a million traffic stops and been no big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Unfair Robot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849925</link>
		<dc:creator>Unfair Robot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America, I am so sorry for you.  Your country was founded on great and admirable ideals of freedom but somewhere along the way you got screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America, I am so sorry for you.  Your country was founded on great and admirable ideals of freedom but somewhere along the way you got screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: millrick</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849414</link>
		<dc:creator>millrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just watched the video

-the motorcyclist was backing himself away from the dude with the gun
-it took the officer 7 seconds to identify himself
-the gun was never pointed at the motorcyclist
-the officer re-holstered his gun 15 seconds after he pulled it out
-there was a marked police car stopped behind the motorcyclist

i can only imagine how frightening it must of been for Anthony Graber, which was, i assume, the whole point of pulling the gun.
Graber deserves an appropriate punishment for speeding, but wiretap charges are intended to frighten us all into being obedient little sheep who never confront authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just watched the video</p>
<p>-the motorcyclist was backing himself away from the dude with the gun<br />
-it took the officer 7 seconds to identify himself<br />
-the gun was never pointed at the motorcyclist<br />
-the officer re-holstered his gun 15 seconds after he pulled it out<br />
-there was a marked police car stopped behind the motorcyclist</p>
<p>i can only imagine how frightening it must of been for Anthony Graber, which was, i assume, the whole point of pulling the gun.<br />
Graber deserves an appropriate punishment for speeding, but wiretap charges are intended to frighten us all into being obedient little sheep who never confront authority.</p>
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		<title>By: adamnvillani</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849415</link>
		<dc:creator>adamnvillani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems crazy... on the one hand I feel like the Supreme Court needs to come down and rule that we have an absolute right to record police activity, and on the other hand I fear that Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito, and Kennedy would rule in the OTHER direction, permanently damaging civil liberties in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems crazy&#8230; on the one hand I feel like the Supreme Court needs to come down and rule that we have an absolute right to record police activity, and on the other hand I fear that Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito, and Kennedy would rule in the OTHER direction, permanently damaging civil liberties in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Razzabeth</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849416</link>
		<dc:creator>Razzabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so AT&amp;T can warrantlessly wiretap our private phones all they want with NO repercussions, but a guy videotapes a cop obviously and publicly get 16 years? WHAT. THE. F*CK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so AT&#038;T can warrantlessly wiretap our private phones all they want with NO repercussions, but a guy videotapes a cop obviously and publicly get 16 years? WHAT. THE. F*CK.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849417</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typically, expectation of privacy covers hospitals, your own bedroom, and barely anything else beyond those. If Maryland has its own wonky privacy laws, though, then so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typically, expectation of privacy covers hospitals, your own bedroom, and barely anything else beyond those. If Maryland has its own wonky privacy laws, though, then so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: TEKNA2007</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849673</link>
		<dc:creator>TEKNA2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m starting to get the impression that I&#039;m the only BB reader who&#039;s ever gone 120 through LA.&lt;/i&gt;

Does it have to be limited to LA?  If we could include West Virginia ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m starting to get the impression that I&#8217;m the only BB reader who&#8217;s ever gone 120 through LA.</i></p>
<p>Does it have to be limited to LA?  If we could include West Virginia &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Felton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849418</link>
		<dc:creator>Felton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Graber deserves an appropriate punishment for speeding, but wiretap charges are intended to frighten us all into being obedient little sheep who never confront authority.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with that assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Graber deserves an appropriate punishment for speeding, but wiretap charges are intended to frighten us all into being obedient little sheep who never confront authority.</i></p>
<p>I agree with that assessment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was  cop, I knew that everything I did was public; I had no privacy.  Guys like this give the rest of us a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was  cop, I knew that everything I did was public; I had no privacy.  Guys like this give the rest of us a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: witczak</title>
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		<dc:creator>witczak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I miss something? I don&#039;t see a badge or any form of ID. I&#039;m assuming there were flashing lights on the car, but they didn&#039;t appear in the video.

So it seems to me this is a guy video taping a gun wielding guy that claims to be a cop.

...Is it any wonder that people get raped/robbed/killed after being pulled over by phoney cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I miss something? I don&#8217;t see a badge or any form of ID. I&#8217;m assuming there were flashing lights on the car, but they didn&#8217;t appear in the video.</p>
<p>So it seems to me this is a guy video taping a gun wielding guy that claims to be a cop.</p>
<p>&#8230;Is it any wonder that people get raped/robbed/killed after being pulled over by phoney cops.</p>
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		<title>By: MRKiscaden</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849420</link>
		<dc:creator>MRKiscaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my opinion, perhaps radical opinion, that the plain-clothes police officers should only be used for undercover investigations, and NOT used for normal law enforcement. Why on earth is it nessesary for police officers to be riding around in an un-marked car, wearing street clothes performing traffic enforcement. To top it all off, the officer pulled his firearm on the citizen. 

If this officer was off-duty, then he no longer has the power to perform arrests or the right to draw his firearm in public. In short, he is NOT ON DUTY and becomes a normal citizen.

The police department know Joseph Uhler screwed up, and they are closing ranks to protect him rather than see justice served. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my opinion, perhaps radical opinion, that the plain-clothes police officers should only be used for undercover investigations, and NOT used for normal law enforcement. Why on earth is it nessesary for police officers to be riding around in an un-marked car, wearing street clothes performing traffic enforcement. To top it all off, the officer pulled his firearm on the citizen. </p>
<p>If this officer was off-duty, then he no longer has the power to perform arrests or the right to draw his firearm in public. In short, he is NOT ON DUTY and becomes a normal citizen.</p>
<p>The police department know Joseph Uhler screwed up, and they are closing ranks to protect him rather than see justice served. </p>
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		<title>By: dculberson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849935</link>
		<dc:creator>dculberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That guy did &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; run from the cops.  He sped early in the video but then drove a reasonable speed and pulled over toward the end of the video.  If you think he &quot;ran&quot; from the cops, you have never seen a motorcycle run.  120mph is the speed they slow down to when a turn comes up.  A modern sport bike can go 160mph (600cc little guy) to 200+mph (1300cc Hayabusa) and those speeds come on in seconds.

This guy was going 60-70mph through most of the video.  Maintaining lanes, not passing on the berm, etc.  Clearly not attempting to run in the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That guy did <i>not</i> run from the cops.  He sped early in the video but then drove a reasonable speed and pulled over toward the end of the video.  If you think he &#8220;ran&#8221; from the cops, you have never seen a motorcycle run.  120mph is the speed they slow down to when a turn comes up.  A modern sport bike can go 160mph (600cc little guy) to 200+mph (1300cc Hayabusa) and those speeds come on in seconds.</p>
<p>This guy was going 60-70mph through most of the video.  Maintaining lanes, not passing on the berm, etc.  Clearly not attempting to run in the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>  You can not expect the right privacy in a public place when you shout in that public place *United States Supreme Court*.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  You can not expect the right privacy in a public place when you shout in that public place *United States Supreme Court*.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it, have we lost all of our rights? It&#039;s o.k. for the police to record us and in many cases edit the recording before anyone sees it, but we are not allowed to record them. Isn&#039;t that our rights? I mean if every thing was on the up &amp; up there should be no problem, Right, How ever most of us know that there are not to many Real Police out there any more, most of them enjoy abusing other people &amp; or other peoples children, The Gov. tells us we can not correct our own children, But if they feel the need they can kick,smash into the ground, throw around,Tazzer and in some cases Kill our children and anymore the children don&#039;t even have to be over 18. How Messed Up is that, we are the only ones who can &amp; should do something to STOP POLICE from ABUSING US....JUST DO IT...Everyone should carry a camera with them at all times and record each and every police stop that does not look right, and if this man gets any charges for recording this out of control officer well then I for one will KNOW that even JUSTICE is Gone..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it, have we lost all of our rights? It&#8217;s o.k. for the police to record us and in many cases edit the recording before anyone sees it, but we are not allowed to record them. Isn&#8217;t that our rights? I mean if every thing was on the up &#038; up there should be no problem, Right, How ever most of us know that there are not to many Real Police out there any more, most of them enjoy abusing other people &#038; or other peoples children, The Gov. tells us we can not correct our own children, But if they feel the need they can kick,smash into the ground, throw around,Tazzer and in some cases Kill our children and anymore the children don&#8217;t even have to be over 18. How Messed Up is that, we are the only ones who can &#038; should do something to STOP POLICE from ABUSING US&#8230;.JUST DO IT&#8230;Everyone should carry a camera with them at all times and record each and every police stop that does not look right, and if this man gets any charges for recording this out of control officer well then I for one will KNOW that even JUSTICE is Gone..</p>
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		<title>By: abstract_reg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849430</link>
		<dc:creator>abstract_reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But time-out a moment! How in the world could he know that this guy was a cop? There is no badge, no uniform, no car. I just watched the video and there is no way to tell that this man is an officer of the law. This is not how traffic law is supposed to be enforced. The guy was speeding, sure. But IMHO an off-duty cop should not be able to do anything with out at least flashing the badge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But time-out a moment! How in the world could he know that this guy was a cop? There is no badge, no uniform, no car. I just watched the video and there is no way to tell that this man is an officer of the law. This is not how traffic law is supposed to be enforced. The guy was speeding, sure. But IMHO an off-duty cop should not be able to do anything with out at least flashing the badge.</p>
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		<title>By: shannigans</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849431</link>
		<dc:creator>shannigans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging by the amount of time between when the motorcycle passed the police car and when the stop finally occurred, and by the fact that a second patrol car was present when the motorcycle finally stopped (indicating backup was called in), it would appear that the motorcycle continued to go long after the party lights turned on behind him and even re-violated the speeding law with the cop behind him.  That kind of behavior is pretty much guaranteed to get a gun pulled on you.  As far as being charged with illegal wiretapping...total crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging by the amount of time between when the motorcycle passed the police car and when the stop finally occurred, and by the fact that a second patrol car was present when the motorcycle finally stopped (indicating backup was called in), it would appear that the motorcycle continued to go long after the party lights turned on behind him and even re-violated the speeding law with the cop behind him.  That kind of behavior is pretty much guaranteed to get a gun pulled on you.  As far as being charged with illegal wiretapping&#8230;total crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849433</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>   Otto Zehm in Spokane, Washington. This involved 3 in store cameras, where the city with held one camera footage for 2 months to manipulate the story. This murder involved 8 police officers and 2 emergency workers.
   The sad thing is some places have been so desensitized and damaged the people take this for a way of life. This community is predominantly European.

                       &#039;bookstore biff&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>   Otto Zehm in Spokane, Washington. This involved 3 in store cameras, where the city with held one camera footage for 2 months to manipulate the story. This murder involved 8 police officers and 2 emergency workers.<br />
   The sad thing is some places have been so desensitized and damaged the people take this for a way of life. This community is predominantly European.</p>
<p>                       &#8216;bookstore biff&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Neon Tooth</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849435</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon Tooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, now I have to feel sympathy for some uber-douche crotch rocket shithead who was endangering everyone on the highway with is childish *extreme* riding.  Way to go Maryland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, now I have to feel sympathy for some uber-douche crotch rocket shithead who was endangering everyone on the highway with is childish *extreme* riding.  Way to go Maryland.</p>
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		<title>By: LightningRose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849436</link>
		<dc:creator>LightningRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would really put a stop to this crap would be a constitutional amendment granting the right to use deadly force in defense against law enforcement engaged in illegal behavior.

Now *that* would lead to a truly professional law enforcement community. Surely the &quot;good apples&quot; in law enforcement would never object to such a law - after all, the innocent have nothing to fear, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would really put a stop to this crap would be a constitutional amendment granting the right to use deadly force in defense against law enforcement engaged in illegal behavior.</p>
<p>Now *that* would lead to a truly professional law enforcement community. Surely the &#8220;good apples&#8221; in law enforcement would never object to such a law &#8211; after all, the innocent have nothing to fear, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Sionix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849948</link>
		<dc:creator>Sionix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help me understand this? Cameras record me in restaurants, malls, convenient stores, retail stores, banks, at street intersections and along highways and streets. The police have dash mounted cameras with microphones. The republicans AND democrats passed legislation that protects communication companies participating in ILLEGAL wiretaps from ANY civil or criminal consequences. Yet, if I have a camera and record the government I may loose 16 years of my life behind bars? This is so wrong in so many ways and I can only hope that more folks find out about this nonsense and put the right people in office so that we as Americans truly have a government for the people that is by the people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help me understand this? Cameras record me in restaurants, malls, convenient stores, retail stores, banks, at street intersections and along highways and streets. The police have dash mounted cameras with microphones. The republicans AND democrats passed legislation that protects communication companies participating in ILLEGAL wiretaps from ANY civil or criminal consequences. Yet, if I have a camera and record the government I may loose 16 years of my life behind bars? This is so wrong in so many ways and I can only hope that more folks find out about this nonsense and put the right people in office so that we as Americans truly have a government for the people that is by the people!</p>
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		<title>By: kpkpkp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849699</link>
		<dc:creator>kpkpkp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another example of a police office that believes that the law applies to others, not to the police themselves.   

It manifests in so many ways, the primary being the &quot;professional courtesy&quot; they extend one another in terms of traffic stops - cops DO NOT WRITE traffic summons&#039; to other cops.

So if you&#039;re a cop, you can drive like an asshole and unless you do something to damage or kill, you are pretty much unaccountable.   Wanna turn on the flashing lights to sprint through an intersection - no problem - for example, to make it back to the office for a shift change - no problem.   

Now let&#039;s say you&#039;re a tow truck driver on the way to a crash - and turn on your lights and roll through a red light - no such luck, you can be stopped and ticketed.

I realize there are all sorts of people and all sorts of situations, but I also believe that the wrong people sometimes get jobs in law enforcement, and in certain situations, they glow with the pure wrongness of their career choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another example of a police office that believes that the law applies to others, not to the police themselves.   </p>
<p>It manifests in so many ways, the primary being the &#8220;professional courtesy&#8221; they extend one another in terms of traffic stops &#8211; cops DO NOT WRITE traffic summons&#8217; to other cops.</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re a cop, you can drive like an asshole and unless you do something to damage or kill, you are pretty much unaccountable.   Wanna turn on the flashing lights to sprint through an intersection &#8211; no problem &#8211; for example, to make it back to the office for a shift change &#8211; no problem.   </p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re a tow truck driver on the way to a crash &#8211; and turn on your lights and roll through a red light &#8211; no such luck, you can be stopped and ticketed.</p>
<p>I realize there are all sorts of people and all sorts of situations, but I also believe that the wrong people sometimes get jobs in law enforcement, and in certain situations, they glow with the pure wrongness of their career choice.</p>
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		<title>By: HD</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849700</link>
		<dc:creator>HD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You wanna know what is only ever used exclusively as a deadly weapon?

A gun.&quot;

I just got back from the range, where I fired a couple of guns a few hundred times, and killed not a single thing (except my wallet, ammo ain&#039;t cheap these days).

Now maybe I&#039;m just a really bad shot, or maybe guns are not exclusively used as deadly weapons.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You wanna know what is only ever used exclusively as a deadly weapon?</p>
<p>A gun.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just got back from the range, where I fired a couple of guns a few hundred times, and killed not a single thing (except my wallet, ammo ain&#8217;t cheap these days).</p>
<p>Now maybe I&#8217;m just a really bad shot, or maybe guns are not exclusively used as deadly weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: wylkyn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/01/man-faces-jail-for-v.html#comment-849957</link>
		<dc:creator>wylkyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should just get a leather jacket with the words &quot;By reading this, you consent to be videotaped.&quot; emblazoned on both sides in various languages. Badabing! Instant user agreement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should just get a leather jacket with the words &#8220;By reading this, you consent to be videotaped.&#8221; emblazoned on both sides in various languages. Badabing! Instant user agreement!</p>
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