Is FTC investigating Apple over "anti-Adobe" activity? FOIA denial suggests so.

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7 Responses to “Is FTC investigating Apple over "anti-Adobe" activity? FOIA denial suggests so.”

  1. ratcity says:

    And, so, Joe, apps in these other app stores… does Apple have to support them? Make sure they work with new versions of the OS?

    Here’s what I think: I should be legally allowed to sell PS3 discs on the corner and Sony should be required to do extensive compatibility and performance testing of my discs to make sure they never regress.

    Also, everything that can technically run Flash should be required to. In fact, we can replace the FCC, UL etc with Adobe. You’ll just wait until they have Flash running and then and only then will you be allowed to sell it.

  2. Anonymous says:

    “And, so, Joe, apps in these other app stores… does Apple have to support them? Make sure they work with new versions of the OS?”

    Wait – do apps never become uncompatible with newer versions of the OS because Apple makes sure they don’t?

    IF they don’t then I guess your argument makes sense. But they do, and your argument is nonsense.

  3. dogzilla says:

    There is so much ridiculous misinformation around this topic that it makes one want to just throw up their hands and walk away. Unfortunately, this is *exactly* the kind of story that makes for a good headline but requires a bit of self-education before you can realize what’s actually going on. However, some of the comments made on here are ridiculous to the point of hilarity. I particularly like “the idea that no one can sell an app without giving Apple a cut has to end” – not only are Apple’s terms far fairer to developers than any which existed before, but what does the author think happens in any retail transaction?

  4. Anonymous says:

    This is silly. The FTC is always going to reject FOIA requests about subject which could, hypothetically, someday, be investigated. Otherwise, the non-denial becomes an admission (as you insinuate in this case) and they tip their hand to potential targets.

    All the FTC response means here is that they have not ruled out the possibility that there could someday be an investigation.

  5. MrJM says:

    If you can’t measure the thing, measure the hole it leaves.

  6. Joe says:

    I’d love to see some real antitrust action here. The App Store nonsense is galling; tying arrangements are illegal under antitrust law, and the idea that no one can sell an app without giving Apple a cut has to end. The fact that they are using this mechanism to damage Adobe is relevant, but the mechanism itself should be the issue.

    Apple’s argument that their review process ensures a certain quality and keeps malware off the platform is a good one, but that objection can be met by allowing multiple parties to set up app stores; they can then compete on reputation and price, and a user would have to explicitly enable a particular app store before loading apps from it.

    • Anonymous says:

      How silly. BoingBoing has a monopoly on what appears on BoingBoing — so if I submit a story and they refuse to post it I can sue them?

      You’re aware that anybody can write web apps in HTML5 that”ll work on an iPhone without Apple’s approval, right? And that there’s now a web app store for iPhone apps that Apple’s got nothing to do with?

      Tying arrangements are certainly illegal if and when a company’s been legally declared a monopoly. But what’s Apple’s monopoly here? Smartphones? I seem to recall at least a few models made by other companies, perhaps you’ve heard of them — Android, Blackberry, Nokia? Apple’s only got about 16% of the market, with Android catching up fast (partly because of those two-for-one deals).

      No, Apple’s main monopoly in this context seems to be on inducing fools to make completely ridiculous assertions in a self-righteous daze. Complain about all the hype, sure — it’s tiresome even if it’s mostly from third parties (like websites and bloggers trawling for page hits so they can sell ads). But being part of the backlash simply means you’re perpetuating the hype yourself.

      If, as is pretty evident, the App Store approval process is iOS devices’ fatal flaw (along with AT&T networking, in the US) then won’t they lose out to Android or others in the so-called “free” market? Annoy or scare enough developers and they’re screwed. If you want to bury them try writing programs for other mobile platforms, and don’t buy from Apple — that’s what will change things.

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