Comments on: Pastor calls for Quran burning on 9/11 http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 13:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: eviladrian http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852493 eviladrian Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852493 I did a double-take when I saw "Terry Jones" on that book cover, it would just shake my whole world-view if it had been the real Terry Jones writing that. I did a double-take when I saw “Terry Jones” on that book cover, it would just shake my whole world-view if it had been the real Terry Jones writing that.

]]> By: Xopher http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852249 Xopher Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852249 ISTM that he's inviting Muslims in an effort to incite violence, so he can sue people and ruin them. This is how the WBC makes its money; I'm not surprised to see another of their friends trying the same tactic. This guy is just another sensationalist scam artist. ISTM that he’s inviting Muslims in an effort to incite violence, so he can sue people and ruin them. This is how the WBC makes its money; I’m not surprised to see another of their friends trying the same tactic.

This guy is just another sensationalist scam artist.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-880157 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880157 pastor has sent a message " muslims are extremist and devils but A PASTOR IS" A PASTOR IS A REAL TERRORIST, HE IS TERRORISING THE GLOBE. pastor has sent a message

” muslims are extremist and devils but A PASTOR IS”

A PASTOR IS A REAL TERRORIST, HE IS TERRORISING THE GLOBE.

]]> By: gabroll http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852013 gabroll Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852013 Sensational much? If you're going to post this extremist view from an alleged Christian, I should hope you would also post view from other extremist members of extremist factions of other groups. Better yet, you could post healthy, helpful ideas from regular people who are members of non-extremist groups, like a broad range of Christians, Muslims, etc. Then again, those stories wouldn't ignite so much feedback. It's a shame this otherwise wonderful blog seems to devolve into a Christian-bashing forum so frequently. Sensational much? If you’re going to post this extremist view from an alleged Christian, I should hope you would also post view from other extremist members of extremist factions of other groups. Better yet, you could post healthy, helpful ideas from regular people who are members of non-extremist groups, like a broad range of Christians, Muslims, etc. Then again, those stories wouldn’t ignite so much feedback.

It’s a shame this otherwise wonderful blog seems to devolve into a Christian-bashing forum so frequently.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-863281 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-863281 Hi I am from South Africa, I am apalled by what this man claims to be right!! I am a Muslim, The Muslims in South Africa like millions of others have decided to leave matters in Gods hands to intervene. WE WILL NOT BE BURNING BIBLES, TORATS ETC IN RETALIATION instead All we can do is pray that people with genuine intellect can distinguish between whats right and wrong. Islam does not teach one to be blasphemous against anothers religion instead to respect it. Off course there are some that use the name of our Almighty to their advantage or to justify their inability to fathom right from wrong exactly like what this man is doing. As a fellow human being who breathes the same air that everyone else breathes all we can do is Pray as this is our only solace. Hi I am from South Africa, I am apalled by what this man claims to be right!! I am a Muslim, The Muslims in South Africa like millions of others have decided to leave matters in Gods hands to intervene. WE WILL NOT BE BURNING BIBLES, TORATS ETC IN RETALIATION instead All we can do is pray that people with genuine intellect can distinguish between whats right and wrong. Islam does not teach one to be blasphemous against anothers religion instead to respect it. Off course there are some that use the name of our Almighty to their advantage or to justify their inability to fathom right from wrong exactly like what this man is doing. As a fellow human being who breathes the same air that everyone else breathes all we can do is Pray as this is our only solace.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-857659 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-857659 Well, I know what I'M doing on 9/11. Burning Bibles. Then sending this guy the pics. Well, I know what I’M doing on 9/11.

Burning Bibles. Then sending this guy the pics.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852540 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852540 and you still wonder why terrorists attack such people? stop this foolish act, you'll only cause other people's misery.. -,- and you still wonder why terrorists attack such people? stop this foolish act, you’ll only cause other people’s misery.. -,-

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-879933 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-879933 Our Lord Jesus said that to love your neighbour as your self.The pastor is wrong in burning the quran.Our Lord Jesus also said conquer with love. Our Lord Jesus said that to love your neighbour as your self.The pastor is wrong in burning the quran.Our Lord Jesus also said conquer with love.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852543 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852543 Great way to spend *your* 15 minutes of fame Pastor Terry. Way to advance the message of peace and tolerance your Lord and Saviour gave his life for. "Me, what an asshole!" - Jesus on the subject of Pastor Jones Great way to spend *your* 15 minutes of fame Pastor Terry. Way to advance the message of peace and tolerance your Lord and Saviour gave his life for.

“Me, what an asshole!” – Jesus on the subject of Pastor Jones

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-879936 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-879936 Our Lord Jesus said that we must love our neighbour as our self. He also said that to conquer with love. What the pastor is doing is wrong. Our Lord Jesus said that we must love our neighbour as our self. He also said that to conquer with love.

What the pastor is doing is wrong.

]]> By: Simon Kennedy http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852550 Simon Kennedy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852550 A common, natural reaction to reading this type of story is to feel a kind of rising anger. Anger that people are so misled by wayward religious fervour; anger that such a faulty doctrinal path winds its way towards hateful deeds rather than loving ones. I'm sure we have some Hitchens/Dawkins etc. fans here. I think Dawkins in particular tends to promote a kind of angry, heated response to this type of incident. Wouldn't a better approach to these kinds of religious activities be, to not react with anger, but with laughter? The kind of laughter that would erupt if adults gathered to burn fairy wands, or tarot cards, or horoscope calendars, because those things imposed on their belief in Santa Claus? If instead we reacted in horror, anger, and aggression to the Followers of Santa, would that help them to question their beliefs, or further reinforce those beliefs? (Having said that, I notice there are plenty of good comedic responses in the comments above!) A common, natural reaction to reading this type of story is to feel a kind of rising anger. Anger that people are so misled by wayward religious fervour; anger that such a faulty doctrinal path winds its way towards hateful deeds rather than loving ones. I’m sure we have some Hitchens/Dawkins etc. fans here. I think Dawkins in particular tends to promote a kind of angry, heated response to this type of incident.

Wouldn’t a better approach to these kinds of religious activities be, to not react with anger, but with laughter? The kind of laughter that would erupt if adults gathered to burn fairy wands, or tarot cards, or horoscope calendars, because those things imposed on their belief in Santa Claus?

If instead we reacted in horror, anger, and aggression to the Followers of Santa, would that help them to question their beliefs, or further reinforce those beliefs?

(Having said that, I notice there are plenty of good comedic responses in the comments above!)

]]> By: Teller http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852554 Teller Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852554 Chum as post. Chum as post.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-885331 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-885331 y y y y y y?????? terry jones u actn like a devil tryn 2 start a new war.......you should jus leave dem alone.... y do u want revange it dosent solve anything its not fair 4 them wat if they burned ur bible wat would u do how would u feel y y y y y y?????? terry jones u actn like a devil tryn 2 start a new war…….you should jus leave dem alone…. y do u want revange it dosent solve anything its not fair 4 them wat if they burned ur bible wat would u do how would u feel

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-881249 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-881249 Even if Saudi Arabia doesnt have a church, most muslim countries have a church. Even if America's a free country it doesnt mean people should abuse that right for spreading hate. Chew on that for a bit, okay? Even if Saudi Arabia doesnt have a church, most muslim countries have a church. Even if America’s a free country it doesnt mean people should abuse that right for spreading hate. Chew on that for a bit, okay?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-866408 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-866408 I am a moderate non practising muslim and I'm very upset at what some people in a seemingly open minded and tolerant society are prepared to do. This is no different to what Saddam hussain was guilty of when the west sent in troops to "free" Iraqi people. On the other hand it is heart warming to see so many logical and considered comments on this web site. Thank god(?) for such people. Pastor Terry Jones and his flock should hang their heads in shame. I am a moderate non practising muslim and I’m very upset at what some people in a seemingly open minded and tolerant society are prepared to do. This is no different to what Saddam hussain was guilty of when the west sent in troops to “free” Iraqi people. On the other hand it is heart warming to see so many logical and considered comments on this web site. Thank god(?) for such people. Pastor Terry Jones and his flock should hang their heads in shame.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852079 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852079 Where have you been? In the last 48 hours alone there have been multiple posts about Iranian Muslims and American Jews (in the ADL) spouting hateful, extremist positions. This blog isn't anti-Christian, it's anti-nutjob. Where have you been? In the last 48 hours alone there have been multiple posts about Iranian Muslims and American Jews (in the ADL) spouting hateful, extremist positions. This blog isn’t anti-Christian, it’s anti-nutjob.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852592 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852592 <i> The whole Python gang is being abducted by the Right: first Palin, now this? </i> They'll never take Cleese! The whole Python gang is being abducted by the Right: first Palin, now this?

They’ll never take Cleese!

]]> By: pixleshifter http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851825 pixleshifter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851825 And remember to bring a bible with you also. And remember to bring a bible with you also.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-879731 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-879731 I would suggest him "Read" - Read the Quran before performing such a devilish act. Quran respects all the religion even there are beautiful stories of Hazrat Isaa (a.s.) or (Jesus) in Quran. I would suggest him “Read” – Read the Quran before performing such a devilish act. Quran respects all the religion even there are beautiful stories of Hazrat Isaa (a.s.) or (Jesus) in Quran.

]]> By: Felton http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851827 Felton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851827 I sense a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of palms slapped against millions of faces all at once... I hate that he shares a name with a Monty Python member: "He's not the messiah! He's a very naughty boy!" I sense a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of palms slapped against millions of faces all at once…

I hate that he shares a name with a Monty Python member: “He’s not the messiah! He’s a very naughty boy!”

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852086 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852086 And this attitude is why the terrorists are against America. I guarantee that this is the kind of story that will shown to all the Taliban wannabees, not any stories about religious moderation. And don't anyone say he's racist. He obviously hates everyone equally. And this attitude is why the terrorists are against America. I guarantee that this is the kind of story that will shown to all the Taliban wannabees, not any stories about religious moderation.

And don’t anyone say he’s racist. He obviously hates everyone equally.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-852088 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852088 The whole Python gang is being abducted by the Right: first Palin, now this? The whole Python gang is being abducted by the Right: first Palin, now this?

]]> By: LongFlight http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-853112 LongFlight Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-853112 On 9/11 this year, I'm going to head down to my local half price bookstore and pick up a copy of the Quran. I'm going to sit down and start reading it and do what I do with the Bible - I look through for the positive messages and take those as the word of God. ...and in a solemn gesture of peace, I will pray for all my brothers and sisters - even the ones filled with hate. On 9/11 this year, I’m going to head down to my local half price bookstore and pick up a copy of the Quran. I’m going to sit down and start reading it and do what I do with the Bible – I look through for the positive messages and take those as the word of God.

…and in a solemn gesture of peace, I will pray for all my brothers and sisters – even the ones filled with hate.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851834 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851834 Yes, because hate will never breed more hate. How silly of me to forget. Yes, because hate will never breed more hate. How silly of me to forget.

]]> By: johnofjack http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851840 johnofjack Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851840 That asshole lives here in town. Basically he hates everyone who isn't narrowminded, including Gainesville's new out-and-proud mayor. I'm guessing he puts his hate of The Other aside long enough to fulfill customers' <a href="http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/04/09/gay-bashing-church-could-lose-tax-exemption/">ebay purchases for the business he's running out of his church</a>, and for which he's being audited. Some time back he had a sign bashing Obama ... one of the many clear violations of the rules regarding political speech of tax-exempt organizations like a church. That asshole lives here in town. Basically he hates everyone who isn’t narrowminded, including Gainesville’s new out-and-proud mayor. I’m guessing he puts his hate of The Other aside long enough to fulfill customers’ ebay purchases for the business he’s running out of his church, and for which he’s being audited.

Some time back he had a sign bashing Obama … one of the many clear violations of the rules regarding political speech of tax-exempt organizations like a church.

]]> By: zpweeks http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851841 zpweeks Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851841 Sorry for preaching to the choir, but I really have to quote this: "Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness begets a greater toughness. We must meet the forces of hate with the power of love...Our aim must never be to defeat or humiliate the white man, but to win his friendship and understanding." - Martin Luther King, 1958 Sorry for preaching to the choir, but I really have to quote this:

“Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness begets a greater toughness. We must meet the forces of hate with the power of love…Our aim must never be to defeat or humiliate the white man, but to win his friendship and understanding.” – Martin Luther King, 1958

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-853890 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-853890 I am a Christian and I can assure you that my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, would not condon such actions. These so-called Christians think Islam is of the Devil. Isn't passing judgement, and doing violent acts of the devil. Dr. Jones, YOU are no Christian. I will be praying for you and your congregation. Father forgive them for they know not what they do. I am a Christian and I can assure you that my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, would not condon such actions. These so-called Christians think Islam is of the Devil. Isn’t passing judgement, and doing violent acts of the devil.
Dr. Jones, YOU are no Christian. I will be praying for you and your congregation.
Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

]]> By: johnofjack http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851844 johnofjack Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851844 Oops. Wrong link for the ebay story. That's here: http://blogs.alternet.org/bettenoir/tag/dove-world-outreach-center/ Oops. Wrong link for the ebay story. That’s here: http://blogs.alternet.org/bettenoir/tag/dove-world-outreach-center/

]]> By: brix http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851845 brix Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851845 "He also said he has invited Muslims to come to the 9/11 Quran burning event and is willing to dialogue with them during the activity." oh. good. “He also said he has invited Muslims to come to the 9/11 Quran burning event and is willing to dialogue with them during the activity.”

oh.

good.

]]> By: Rich Keller http://boingboing.net/2010/08/04/pastor-calls-for-qur.html#comment-851848 Rich Keller Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851848 I misread that as "Dove World Outrage Center." "Jones emphasizes that his church does not just speak out about Islam but also homosexuality, same-sex marriage, and abortion..." It's good to know that he's a well-rounded hater. I wouldn't want to think that he was discriminatory. I misread that as “Dove World Outrage Center.”

“Jones emphasizes that his church does not just speak out about Islam but also homosexuality, same-sex marriage, and abortion…”

It’s good to know that he’s a well-rounded hater. I wouldn’t want to think that he was discriminatory.

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