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	<title>Comments on: Expensive cleavers are a waste of&#160;money</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858624</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henkel&#039;s knives (if from Germany) are made from stamped parts. In other words, they are made up of different pieces that are welded together.  Even if they appear to have a full tang you can see the seamline where they attached the handle to the blade just above the bolster.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henkel&#8217;s knives (if from Germany) are made from stamped parts. In other words, they are made up of different pieces that are welded together.  Even if they appear to have a full tang you can see the seamline where they attached the handle to the blade just above the bolster.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858369</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beg to differ on the Ken Onion knife, FWIW.

My wife bought it for me for christmas, as I needed a cleaver, and we use all Shun knives.

I thought it looked very silly, and not at all what I wanted in a cleaver, and took it back to the store.  But the more I tried other cleavers and held them and worked with them, etc., the more I kept picking up the Ken Onion.

I ended up following my instinct and keeping it, and I love it.  To each their own, but I had to mention that I am a serious chef, doing real work, and absolutely loving the (admittedly strange) Ken Onion cleaver. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ on the Ken Onion knife, FWIW.</p>
<p>My wife bought it for me for christmas, as I needed a cleaver, and we use all Shun knives.</p>
<p>I thought it looked very silly, and not at all what I wanted in a cleaver, and took it back to the store.  But the more I tried other cleavers and held them and worked with them, etc., the more I kept picking up the Ken Onion.</p>
<p>I ended up following my instinct and keeping it, and I love it.  To each their own, but I had to mention that I am a serious chef, doing real work, and absolutely loving the (admittedly strange) Ken Onion cleaver. </p>
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		<title>By: bklynchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858370</link>
		<dc:creator>bklynchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS but the following is an actual letter that I personally sent to the Zwilling company, along with my cleaver blade broken from handle at the hilt.  For the longest time I kept a photo of it for just this opportuntiy and %#@$!**!!deleted it less than a month ago. 


ZWILLING J.A. HENCKELS, Inc.
Att: Consumer Service
171 Saw Mill River Road
Hawthorne, New York 10532

June 1, 2010
To whom it may concern,  

I purchased the cleaver enclosed in this envelope within the last five years.  However, I have very rarely needed to use it.  When used, it is almost always used for the purpose of cutting up chicken and other common meats.  It has never been used for any other purpose than that for which it was intended.  Imagine my surprise the last time I went to cleave a chicken breast in half only to have the entire blade section of the cleaver break off from its handle and spin towards my face.  Needless to say, the blade never made contact that day with flesh other than that of the avian species.  Were this not the case, this letter would not be from me but rather a professional who would require a retainer.

It has not been my experience with my other Henckel knives to have their fine German engineering compromised to this extent.  It is my hope that your company in its estimable examination will see fit to replace my â€œProfessional S Friodur Ice Hardened Cleaverâ€ with another not having the propensity for metal shearing that might cause it to break into flying blood letting projectiles.

I hope that this letter is not too verbose.  I felt that it was better than my first letter which contained other than the description of the knife, the following one word sentence, â€œReally?â€.  Although, I am quite sure you would have been able to discern my intent, I did not want to leave anything to the imagination.

Very Sincerely Yours,
Your Humble Consumer,


within 4 weeks I received a replacement cleaver, that of course, to this day, I shudder to use.

Yes, y&#039;all, I know I need a real job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS but the following is an actual letter that I personally sent to the Zwilling company, along with my cleaver blade broken from handle at the hilt.  For the longest time I kept a photo of it for just this opportuntiy and %#@$!**!!deleted it less than a month ago. </p>
<p>ZWILLING J.A. HENCKELS, Inc.<br />
Att: Consumer Service<br />
171 Saw Mill River Road<br />
Hawthorne, New York 10532</p>
<p>June 1, 2010<br />
To whom it may concern,  </p>
<p>I purchased the cleaver enclosed in this envelope within the last five years.  However, I have very rarely needed to use it.  When used, it is almost always used for the purpose of cutting up chicken and other common meats.  It has never been used for any other purpose than that for which it was intended.  Imagine my surprise the last time I went to cleave a chicken breast in half only to have the entire blade section of the cleaver break off from its handle and spin towards my face.  Needless to say, the blade never made contact that day with flesh other than that of the avian species.  Were this not the case, this letter would not be from me but rather a professional who would require a retainer.</p>
<p>It has not been my experience with my other Henckel knives to have their fine German engineering compromised to this extent.  It is my hope that your company in its estimable examination will see fit to replace my â€œProfessional S Friodur Ice Hardened Cleaverâ€ with another not having the propensity for metal shearing that might cause it to break into flying blood letting projectiles.</p>
<p>I hope that this letter is not too verbose.  I felt that it was better than my first letter which contained other than the description of the knife, the following one word sentence, â€œReally?â€.  Although, I am quite sure you would have been able to discern my intent, I did not want to leave anything to the imagination.</p>
<p>Very Sincerely Yours,<br />
Your Humble Consumer,</p>
<p>within 4 weeks I received a replacement cleaver, that of course, to this day, I shudder to use.</p>
<p>Yes, y&#8217;all, I know I need a real job!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858628</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Williams Sonoma used to have a Wustof cleaver for $20 that was full tang and almost 1/2 inch in thickness.  It was not sharp but a serious cleaving contender...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williams Sonoma used to have a Wustof cleaver for $20 that was full tang and almost 1/2 inch in thickness.  It was not sharp but a serious cleaving contender&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vendorx</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858119</link>
		<dc:creator>vendorx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the many things that infuriates me about many high end cleavers is that they are entirely lacking in what I think is a cleaver essential, namely a thick, weighty back. Many weigh hardly more than a 6 inch butcher&#039;s knife. When attacking a thick animal joint, I want that added weight to slam the blade, dull or sharp, merrily through in a single stroke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the many things that infuriates me about many high end cleavers is that they are entirely lacking in what I think is a cleaver essential, namely a thick, weighty back. Many weigh hardly more than a 6 inch butcher&#8217;s knife. When attacking a thick animal joint, I want that added weight to slam the blade, dull or sharp, merrily through in a single stroke!</p>
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		<title>By: Pipenta</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858132</link>
		<dc:creator>Pipenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Dexter, and I only paid twenty bucks for it, new... Of course that was nearly thirty years ago. 

I gave away my good chef&#039;s knife, because I hardly ever used it. I&#039;m used to that damn cleaver. 

The only really good kitchen knife I own is a 1 1/2&quot; paring knife. Hard to find them that short. But it&#039;s a wonder. It is the cutlery equivalent of a miata. It turns on a dime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Dexter, and I only paid twenty bucks for it, new&#8230; Of course that was nearly thirty years ago. </p>
<p>I gave away my good chef&#8217;s knife, because I hardly ever used it. I&#8217;m used to that damn cleaver. </p>
<p>The only really good kitchen knife I own is a 1 1/2&#8243; paring knife. Hard to find them that short. But it&#8217;s a wonder. It is the cutlery equivalent of a miata. It turns on a dime.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858392</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s such a big difference between the uses of the chinese style cleaver and the european style cleaver that i have a hard time believing this isnt some sort of weird troll..

 i&#039;ve been cooking professionally for ten years, and ive used both types in many different variations/brands/colors etcblabla. both styles have their place (when sharp!) as far as versatility id almost take a chinese cleaver over the german or french style chef knife, the big dexter has no chance in that arena..

-do you need to smash things in half with aplomb, while drinking quail&#039;s blood after service on a saturday night? with the chieftans blasting?
dexter. henckels. wusthof. that no-name scary thing in your crazy uncle&#039;s attic.

-do you need to prep a salad line, several meats, and clean 14 chickens? while scaring coworkers with your arm shaving skills? with the chieftans blasting?
CCK. shun. moritaka. sugimoto. takeda.

to be honest youll have to pry my gyuto from my cold dead hands.. but the chinese cleaver certainly has it&#039;s place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s such a big difference between the uses of the chinese style cleaver and the european style cleaver that i have a hard time believing this isnt some sort of weird troll..</p>
<p> i&#8217;ve been cooking professionally for ten years, and ive used both types in many different variations/brands/colors etcblabla. both styles have their place (when sharp!) as far as versatility id almost take a chinese cleaver over the german or french style chef knife, the big dexter has no chance in that arena..</p>
<p>-do you need to smash things in half with aplomb, while drinking quail&#8217;s blood after service on a saturday night? with the chieftans blasting?<br />
dexter. henckels. wusthof. that no-name scary thing in your crazy uncle&#8217;s attic.</p>
<p>-do you need to prep a salad line, several meats, and clean 14 chickens? while scaring coworkers with your arm shaving skills? with the chieftans blasting?<br />
CCK. shun. moritaka. sugimoto. takeda.</p>
<p>to be honest youll have to pry my gyuto from my cold dead hands.. but the chinese cleaver certainly has it&#8217;s place.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyQuest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858393</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyQuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of knives with ceramic blades I bought for under $20 each at Harbor Freight Tools.  They glide through just about any meat or veggies, and are wicked sharp.  Ceramic blades hold their edges a long time, but they&#039;re somewhat fragile, so I also have an inexpensive cleaver and $4 santuko I got in the kitchen section at Target for tougher jobs.  Between these four knives, we do about 95% of our cooking.  If you&#039;ve never used a ceramic blade, try one - I love them like my children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of knives with ceramic blades I bought for under $20 each at Harbor Freight Tools.  They glide through just about any meat or veggies, and are wicked sharp.  Ceramic blades hold their edges a long time, but they&#8217;re somewhat fragile, so I also have an inexpensive cleaver and $4 santuko I got in the kitchen section at Target for tougher jobs.  Between these four knives, we do about 95% of our cooking.  If you&#8217;ve never used a ceramic blade, try one &#8211; I love them like my children.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858394</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s &quot;Shun Ken Onion&quot;, not &quot;Shen Kun Onion&quot;. Shun is the manufacturer; Ken Onion is the designer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s &#8220;Shun Ken Onion&#8221;, not &#8220;Shen Kun Onion&#8221;. Shun is the manufacturer; Ken Onion is the designer.</p>
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		<title>By: yclept</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858409</link>
		<dc:creator>yclept</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve use one primary knife since college, an 8 inch Chef&#039;s knife.  My girlfriend at the time in 1989 paid $90, I think, at Hoffritz which was really private labeling knives made by Henkel. 

That knife is well balanced and sharpens nicely with a steel or ceramic sharpening stones.  

I loved it so much, that I threw down some ungodly amount on a Henkel meat cleaver that I never use.  I tried again with what they call a vegetable cleaver I also don&#039;t use. 

I look forward to buying a Chinese cleaver in the market.  Arcadia, here I come. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve use one primary knife since college, an 8 inch Chef&#8217;s knife.  My girlfriend at the time in 1989 paid $90, I think, at Hoffritz which was really private labeling knives made by Henkel. </p>
<p>That knife is well balanced and sharpens nicely with a steel or ceramic sharpening stones.  </p>
<p>I loved it so much, that I threw down some ungodly amount on a Henkel meat cleaver that I never use.  I tried again with what they call a vegetable cleaver I also don&#8217;t use. </p>
<p>I look forward to buying a Chinese cleaver in the market.  Arcadia, here I come. </p>
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		<title>By: AirPillo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858410</link>
		<dc:creator>AirPillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a laugh from the specific dig at the knife that has shown up in my RSS feed (from Woot) more than once in the past few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a laugh from the specific dig at the knife that has shown up in my RSS feed (from Woot) more than once in the past few months.</p>
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		<title>By: millrick</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857907</link>
		<dc:creator>millrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a lifetime of joyful chicken-hacking&quot; sounds wonderfully fulfilling

tough on the chickens though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a lifetime of joyful chicken-hacking&#8221; sounds wonderfully fulfilling</p>
<p>tough on the chickens though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-858419</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dexter, huh?  And a low-cost, everyday blade. What are the chances of that? If you get one, you must follow The Code. And don&#039;t tell Deb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dexter, huh?  And a low-cost, everyday blade. What are the chances of that? If you get one, you must follow The Code. And don&#8217;t tell Deb.</p>
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		<title>By: pyster</title>
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		<dc:creator>pyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good cheap cleavers can always be found in asain markets.</description>
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		<title>By: Gutierrez</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857912</link>
		<dc:creator>Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throw a few blood drops in and that photo would be a perfect advertisement for the &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_%28TV_series%29&quot;&gt;series of the same name.&lt;/A&gt;

Wonder if it may have been any sort of inspiration for character naming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw a few blood drops in and that photo would be a perfect advertisement for the <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_%28TV_series%29">series of the same name.</a></p>
<p>Wonder if it may have been any sort of inspiration for character naming.</p>
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		<title>By: wqoq</title>
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		<dc:creator>wqoq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cleavers are also great for cutting through Dairy Queen frozen soft serve cakes.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you&#039;re the typical type of chef that uses a cleaver for cleaving, that this is totally 100% true.  However, if you&#039;re the crazy type of (usually chinese) chef that almost exclusively uses a cleaver for everything from mincing to butchering, an expensive model is probably justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you&#8217;re the typical type of chef that uses a cleaver for cleaving, that this is totally 100% true.  However, if you&#8217;re the crazy type of (usually chinese) chef that almost exclusively uses a cleaver for everything from mincing to butchering, an expensive model is probably justified.</p>
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		<title>By: pencilbox</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felt the same way reading Anthony Bourdain&#039;s take on knives in Kitchen Confidential.  Says most people only need one (okay, maybe two) good, inexpensive knives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felt the same way reading Anthony Bourdain&#8217;s take on knives in Kitchen Confidential.  Says most people only need one (okay, maybe two) good, inexpensive knives.</p>
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		<title>By: Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on how you use it, obviously. If your long-lost daughter shows up and digs rocks with it, Zarg is going to be pissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on how you use it, obviously. If your long-lost daughter shows up and digs rocks with it, Zarg is going to be pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Boba Fett Diop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boba Fett Diop</dc:creator>
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		<description>This goes for most kitchen knives.  None of the professional chefs I know use Henckles, Wusthof or Shun knives in their workplaces.  As long as it is relatively descent quality steel (so that it keeps an edge), and kept sharpened and honed regularly, it&#039;s fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes for most kitchen knives.  None of the professional chefs I know use Henckles, Wusthof or Shun knives in their workplaces.  As long as it is relatively descent quality steel (so that it keeps an edge), and kept sharpened and honed regularly, it&#8217;s fine.</p>
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		<title>By: weatherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>weatherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m changing my name to W. Eatherman Adolphus-Ctrl</description>
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		<title>By: ChibiR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChibiR</dc:creator>
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		<description>My initial thought kinda went along the same lines: &quot;...best Collector&#039;s Edition box set bonus item EVER.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My initial thought kinda went along the same lines: &#8220;&#8230;best Collector&#8217;s Edition box set bonus item EVER.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Boba Fett Diop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857940</link>
		<dc:creator>Boba Fett Diop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, that should read &lt;i&gt;decent&lt;/i&gt; quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, that should read <i>decent</i> quality.</p>
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		<title>By: mikelipino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857941</link>
		<dc:creator>mikelipino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He briefly makes an important distinction though. Meat / bone cleavers should be heavy and cheap, because they are used to cut through bone and it doesn&#039;t matter much if they get nicked. Chinese cleavers, while similarly shaped, are used more like a traditional chef&#039;s knife (ever seen Yan Can Cook?), and should be thin and sharp.  I haven&#039;t seen the Shun cleaver in person, but I suspect it falls into that second category of cleavers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He briefly makes an important distinction though. Meat / bone cleavers should be heavy and cheap, because they are used to cut through bone and it doesn&#8217;t matter much if they get nicked. Chinese cleavers, while similarly shaped, are used more like a traditional chef&#8217;s knife (ever seen Yan Can Cook?), and should be thin and sharp.  I haven&#8217;t seen the Shun cleaver in person, but I suspect it falls into that second category of cleavers.</p>
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		<title>By: Saxtor</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857943</link>
		<dc:creator>Saxtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my dream kitchen (I say dream because I didn&#039;t buy the dream-like Global knife I currently use), the most expensive single knife-item would be the sharpener.  Do all the heavy lifting with that $25 Victorinox 8&quot; chef&#039;s knife, an equivalent bread knife, paring knife (or two), and a restaurant supply cleaver and you&#039;re set for blades, all told no more than $120 max.

But every blade needs to be sharpened, and I have a lot of love for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/11/28/spyderco-triangle-sh.html&quot;&gt;SpyderCo sharpener&lt;/a&gt; touted on BoingBoing a couple years ago, still $75.  A knife steel to keep your edges honest, and you&#039;re pretty much set.

I get disgusted when I see someone with a $200 Shun knife that&#039;s dull and no steel or sharpener in sight.  Seems like money down the drain at best, and a likely missing fingertip at worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my dream kitchen (I say dream because I didn&#8217;t buy the dream-like Global knife I currently use), the most expensive single knife-item would be the sharpener.  Do all the heavy lifting with that $25 Victorinox 8&#8243; chef&#8217;s knife, an equivalent bread knife, paring knife (or two), and a restaurant supply cleaver and you&#8217;re set for blades, all told no more than $120 max.</p>
<p>But every blade needs to be sharpened, and I have a lot of love for the <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/11/28/spyderco-triangle-sh.html">SpyderCo sharpener</a> touted on BoingBoing a couple years ago, still $75.  A knife steel to keep your edges honest, and you&#8217;re pretty much set.</p>
<p>I get disgusted when I see someone with a $200 Shun knife that&#8217;s dull and no steel or sharpener in sight.  Seems like money down the drain at best, and a likely missing fingertip at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironic Sans</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857945</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironic Sans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victorinox makes an excellent chef&#039;s knife that&#039;s available for $29.54 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000638D32

Out of 455 customer reviews, 378 people give it 5 stars. Only 21 people give it 3 stars or fewer. That&#039;s impressive for anything, let alone an inexpensive chef&#039;s knife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victorinox makes an excellent chef&#8217;s knife that&#8217;s available for $29.54 on Amazon: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000638D32" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000638D32</a></p>
<p>Out of 455 customer reviews, 378 people give it 5 stars. Only 21 people give it 3 stars or fewer. That&#8217;s impressive for anything, let alone an inexpensive chef&#8217;s knife.</p>
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		<title>By: cog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857951</link>
		<dc:creator>cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$40 for the Dexter still seems like too much. A Chinese market will have an assortment of cleavers for less and without having to find a restaurant supply store. Years ago, I bought a Chinese cleaver and another similarly shaped cleaver but with a much thinner blade. Both are still going strong, except the thin bladed one has a lot of dents. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$40 for the Dexter still seems like too much. A Chinese market will have an assortment of cleavers for less and without having to find a restaurant supply store. Years ago, I bought a Chinese cleaver and another similarly shaped cleaver but with a much thinner blade. Both are still going strong, except the thin bladed one has a lot of dents. </p>
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		<title>By: Ernunnos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857953</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernunnos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand it, ownership of knives in many professional kitchens is a rather loose concept.  If it&#039;s just going to get swiped, you want the minimum serviceable tool to contribute to the pool of knives floating around the kitchen. Any less than that, you might have to use it and hate it, any more than that, you probably won&#039;t get to use it.

A hobbyist who doesn&#039;t have to share can shoot a little higher into the range of diminishing returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it, ownership of knives in many professional kitchens is a rather loose concept.  If it&#8217;s just going to get swiped, you want the minimum serviceable tool to contribute to the pool of knives floating around the kitchen. Any less than that, you might have to use it and hate it, any more than that, you probably won&#8217;t get to use it.</p>
<p>A hobbyist who doesn&#8217;t have to share can shoot a little higher into the range of diminishing returns.</p>
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		<title>By: Unmutual</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857956</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is why I buy those chinese cleavers at Chinese grocery markets for like 20 bucks.

Or rather, I should say I bought mine there 7 years ago, and it&#039;s still in great shape.

Other knives I usually get from restaurant supply stores.

From the asian markets I have a sashimi and veggie cleaver. From the RS shops I have a mezzaluna, a chef&#039;s knife, a small chef&#039;s knife, a bread knife and a paring knife. All tastefully (and intimidatingly) displayed on magnetic strips in my kitchen.

I don&#039;t know who spends the money on frou-frou knifes. And the celeb knives just suck . . . I actually bought the new giada dilaurentiis chef knife when my old one separated from its handle (shoulda bought full tang . . . ) and it had a crack and rust on it after only a couple days of use. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is why I buy those chinese cleavers at Chinese grocery markets for like 20 bucks.</p>
<p>Or rather, I should say I bought mine there 7 years ago, and it&#8217;s still in great shape.</p>
<p>Other knives I usually get from restaurant supply stores.</p>
<p>From the asian markets I have a sashimi and veggie cleaver. From the RS shops I have a mezzaluna, a chef&#8217;s knife, a small chef&#8217;s knife, a bread knife and a paring knife. All tastefully (and intimidatingly) displayed on magnetic strips in my kitchen.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who spends the money on frou-frou knifes. And the celeb knives just suck . . . I actually bought the new giada dilaurentiis chef knife when my old one separated from its handle (shoulda bought full tang . . . ) and it had a crack and rust on it after only a couple days of use. </p>
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		<title>By: hadlock</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/11/cleave-unto-him.html#comment-857960</link>
		<dc:creator>hadlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All my knives are mismatched ones you buy at the supermarket for $5 or less. I run them through the electric combo knife sharpener/can opener once a week or month and throw them out when they start to frustrate me. From what I&#039;ve read, that&#039;s pretty much how it works in restaurant kitchens as well. Paying good money for tools makes sense, but only for tools you don&#039;t need to sharpen on a regular basis. I&#039;ve probably spent $40 on kitchen knives in the last 8 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All my knives are mismatched ones you buy at the supermarket for $5 or less. I run them through the electric combo knife sharpener/can opener once a week or month and throw them out when they start to frustrate me. From what I&#8217;ve read, that&#8217;s pretty much how it works in restaurant kitchens as well. Paying good money for tools makes sense, but only for tools you don&#8217;t need to sharpen on a regular basis. I&#8217;ve probably spent $40 on kitchen knives in the last 8 years.</p>
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