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		<title>By: doingdoing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862208</link>
		<dc:creator>doingdoing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prince was right. Who knew.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862209</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I demand to know why the google wave protocol isn&#039;t featured on this chart.  This is clearly a Jobs-Wired conspiracy to downplay the success of google wave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I demand to know why the google wave protocol isn&#8217;t featured on this chart.  This is clearly a Jobs-Wired conspiracy to downplay the success of google wave!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-867587</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The claim that &quot;The Web is Dead&quot; reminds me of Mark Twain&#039;s comment, 

&quot;There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The claim that &#8220;The Web is Dead&#8221; reminds me of Mark Twain&#8217;s comment, </p>
<p>&#8220;There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: meehawl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862215</link>
		<dc:creator>meehawl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson frequently practices this kind of cargo cult scientism, presenting outrageous claims with lots of convincing-looking graphs in primary colours that appeal to autodidacts. His &quot;Long Tail&quot; assertion became had just enough truthiness to become an article of faith during the last decade, even as study after study using actual market/sales data refuted his assertion as to its numerics. The work by Elberse, Netessine, Tan, Page and Bud clearly shows a real-world sales volume more like a log-normal than a power law distribution. The difference between Anderson&#039;s assertions and the actual work using real sales data is striking. It&#039;s possible that Anderson allowed himself to be misled by some high-volume Internet retailers in the hope that their competitors would divert valuable resources into pursuing the chimerical long tail while the retailers cleaned up at the left-hand-side of the curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson frequently practices this kind of cargo cult scientism, presenting outrageous claims with lots of convincing-looking graphs in primary colours that appeal to autodidacts. His &#8220;Long Tail&#8221; assertion became had just enough truthiness to become an article of faith during the last decade, even as study after study using actual market/sales data refuted his assertion as to its numerics. The work by Elberse, Netessine, Tan, Page and Bud clearly shows a real-world sales volume more like a log-normal than a power law distribution. The difference between Anderson&#8217;s assertions and the actual work using real sales data is striking. It&#8217;s possible that Anderson allowed himself to be misled by some high-volume Internet retailers in the hope that their competitors would divert valuable resources into pursuing the chimerical long tail while the retailers cleaned up at the left-hand-side of the curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-878344</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people slagging Wired here? Wired has a right to its story angle...why attack someone&#039;s opinion? What do you read then if you don&#039;t read magazines...crappy user generated opinion??? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people slagging Wired here? Wired has a right to its story angle&#8230;why attack someone&#8217;s opinion? What do you read then if you don&#8217;t read magazines&#8230;crappy user generated opinion??? </p>
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		<title>By: delt664</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862218</link>
		<dc:creator>delt664</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original graph would be a great critical thinking exercise for middle school kids.

What is sad is that fundamentally flawed statistics and graphs like this one are constantly used in politics / policymaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original graph would be a great critical thinking exercise for middle school kids.</p>
<p>What is sad is that fundamentally flawed statistics and graphs like this one are constantly used in politics / policymaking.</p>
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		<title>By: bobhughes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862223</link>
		<dc:creator>bobhughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So web traffic and all other modern traffic is still exponentially rising?  None are in any danger of &quot;dying&quot; anytime soon, at least not without some unforseeable event occurring in the future to cause it.  I know bb is a very hi-brow crowd, but do any of us even know another person in our lives that would buy into such a ridiculously skewed &amp; spun interpretations of statistics such as these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So web traffic and all other modern traffic is still exponentially rising?  None are in any danger of &#8220;dying&#8221; anytime soon, at least not without some unforseeable event occurring in the future to cause it.  I know bb is a very hi-brow crowd, but do any of us even know another person in our lives that would buy into such a ridiculously skewed &#038; spun interpretations of statistics such as these?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862225</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This type of journalism comes straight from the &quot;insert brand or product name here&quot;-killer school of thought.

There seems to be this idea that everything is a zero-sum game, something must always win, something must always be killed.

It&#039;s simply poor journalism trolling for pageviews.

The iPhone doesn&#039;t need to be killed, Google doesn&#039;t need to be killed, Facebook doesn&#039;t need to be killed. What is needed is open, fair competition with lots of competitive choices, which isn&#039;t the kind of story lazy journalists like to write.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This type of journalism comes straight from the &#8220;insert brand or product name here&#8221;-killer school of thought.</p>
<p>There seems to be this idea that everything is a zero-sum game, something must always win, something must always be killed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply poor journalism trolling for pageviews.</p>
<p>The iPhone doesn&#8217;t need to be killed, Google doesn&#8217;t need to be killed, Facebook doesn&#8217;t need to be killed. What is needed is open, fair competition with lots of competitive choices, which isn&#8217;t the kind of story lazy journalists like to write.</p>
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		<title>By: bobhughes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862226</link>
		<dc:creator>bobhughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also:  long live ftp &amp; telnet, fuck &quot;internet 2&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also:  long live ftp &#038; telnet, fuck &#8220;internet 2&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862228</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me tell you what the problem with this type of article is. Sure, you are getting some hits today. You feel that the laxity in your editorial standards was warranted by this measure of success. 

But I&#039;ll give you my case as an example. Not an avid reader of Wired, but once in a long while I check you up. Had a neutral view of your brand and product. I remember reading some interesting things in here. If I had to push my somewhat faint impression of Wired, I&#039;d say that your articles typically don&#039;t strain my intelligence, but sometimes, they are mildly interesting.

I came here through Daring Fireball today. Read a couple of articles panning this article, and another putting it into a context of past disgraces similar to this one (which I wasn&#039;t aware).

So, great. You got me to come to this page three times today. But, in my case at least, your brand is shot. Hard to recover from that. Really hard. Chances I&#039;ll visit Wired in the future instantly halved at least.

That&#039;s a really bad deal for you.

PS: By the way, the same self-destructive mechanism of short-term gain build upon pooping on your own brand is really prevalent in most media. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me tell you what the problem with this type of article is. Sure, you are getting some hits today. You feel that the laxity in your editorial standards was warranted by this measure of success. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll give you my case as an example. Not an avid reader of Wired, but once in a long while I check you up. Had a neutral view of your brand and product. I remember reading some interesting things in here. If I had to push my somewhat faint impression of Wired, I&#8217;d say that your articles typically don&#8217;t strain my intelligence, but sometimes, they are mildly interesting.</p>
<p>I came here through Daring Fireball today. Read a couple of articles panning this article, and another putting it into a context of past disgraces similar to this one (which I wasn&#8217;t aware).</p>
<p>So, great. You got me to come to this page three times today. But, in my case at least, your brand is shot. Hard to recover from that. Really hard. Chances I&#8217;ll visit Wired in the future instantly halved at least.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a really bad deal for you.</p>
<p>PS: By the way, the same self-destructive mechanism of short-term gain build upon pooping on your own brand is really prevalent in most media. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862996</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rob, your article and the graphics you prepared make the wired story disappear. 

you are so mean. poor wired. their artwork was nice, too. and it had less whitespace!

.~.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rob, your article and the graphics you prepared make the wired story disappear. </p>
<p>you are so mean. poor wired. their artwork was nice, too. and it had less whitespace!</p>
<p>.~.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862234</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Gopher supported image formats quite nicely, thank you.  I was there, I even ran a gopher server myself back when the Mama Gopher was still a desktop mac.  I think it was an SE-30.

The web didn&#039;t bring images.  The web brought a simpler interface, so less technically skilled people could get online.  Sadly the interface is SO simple that the stupid people got online too... I kid, I kid!  We&#039;re all stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Gopher supported image formats quite nicely, thank you.  I was there, I even ran a gopher server myself back when the Mama Gopher was still a desktop mac.  I think it was an SE-30.</p>
<p>The web didn&#8217;t bring images.  The web brought a simpler interface, so less technically skilled people could get online.  Sadly the interface is SO simple that the stupid people got online too&#8230; I kid, I kid!  We&#8217;re all stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862235</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at my own bandwidth monitors, I see that email traffic is gigantic, as is virus and worm chatter.  Apparently they filtered out the spam and malware before they built the chart, making it even more misleading and useless.

My captcha is &quot;Colleen&#039;s theStank&quot;.  Wtf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at my own bandwidth monitors, I see that email traffic is gigantic, as is virus and worm chatter.  Apparently they filtered out the spam and malware before they built the chart, making it even more misleading and useless.</p>
<p>My captcha is &#8220;Colleen&#8217;s theStank&#8221;.  Wtf?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862748</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL - indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL &#8211; indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: TheMadLibrarian</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862237</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMadLibrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A picture is worth a thousand words...&quot; at least as far as bandwidth is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A picture is worth a thousand words&#8230;&#8221; at least as far as bandwidth is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862238</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, but newsgroups sure are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but newsgroups sure are.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-864286</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The web is dead? This is news to those of us who lived outside the US. Also thank you wired for selling your soul to Apple. Apps is going to kill the web!. We are to blame! I think Wired believe that all the whole world owns an IPAD or worship Apple (the latter maybe true ). Do you know how much it cost to buy an IPAD and  an Unlock IPhone here in the non US world. I rather go with the Samsung or a Nokia  or dare I say a blackberry. These are not closed garden like the Apple stuff. ALL of those things are fine and dandy if you live in the States or some European countries. The web is not dead it just moved out of the US.  I&#039;m scared of the googlezon monster. Those of us outside the US will get the short end of the stick, which we already get anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The web is dead? This is news to those of us who lived outside the US. Also thank you wired for selling your soul to Apple. Apps is going to kill the web!. We are to blame! I think Wired believe that all the whole world owns an IPAD or worship Apple (the latter maybe true ). Do you know how much it cost to buy an IPAD and  an Unlock IPhone here in the non US world. I rather go with the Samsung or a Nokia  or dare I say a blackberry. These are not closed garden like the Apple stuff. ALL of those things are fine and dandy if you live in the States or some European countries. The web is not dead it just moved out of the US.  I&#8217;m scared of the googlezon monster. Those of us outside the US will get the short end of the stick, which we already get anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShirt77</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862239</link>
		<dc:creator>RedShirt77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THis is just another &quot;everything is different&quot; &quot;sky is falling&quot; non-story.

Breaking out video as somehow seperate from the WWW is just stupid.  youtube has a www at the beginning.  where is this land of online video that I don&#039;t access through a www.  Netflix on my xbox?

we were never accessing the www on our TV&#039;s or while sitting on the toilet, so the fact that direct to TV services and mobile now have a market isn&#039;t a loss for the interwebs, its a loss for broadcast TV and magazines.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THis is just another &#8220;everything is different&#8221; &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; non-story.</p>
<p>Breaking out video as somehow seperate from the WWW is just stupid.  youtube has a www at the beginning.  where is this land of online video that I don&#8217;t access through a www.  Netflix on my xbox?</p>
<p>we were never accessing the www on our TV&#8217;s or while sitting on the toilet, so the fact that direct to TV services and mobile now have a market isn&#8217;t a loss for the interwebs, its a loss for broadcast TV and magazines.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-865055</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic Chris Anderson - use slanted data to feebly support an obnoxious hyperbole. Seriously, does this guy just sit at his desk and think of controversial one-liners? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic Chris Anderson &#8211; use slanted data to feebly support an obnoxious hyperbole. Seriously, does this guy just sit at his desk and think of controversial one-liners? </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862242</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we&#039;re poking fun at wired, here&#039;s a classic:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we&#8217;re poking fun at wired, here&#8217;s a classic:<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-1149989</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, Email is definitely not extinct.  Even with the increase of IM, email in the corporate world is anything but booming.  Email marketing is on the increase, just as the above graphs represent. 

I would love to see any type of data you have to back up your claims. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, Email is definitely not extinct.  Even with the increase of IM, email in the corporate world is anything but booming.  Email marketing is on the increase, just as the above graphs represent. </p>
<p>I would love to see any type of data you have to back up your claims. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862248</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Email is alive and kicking!

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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-862504</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the coming browser generation products like Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4 which support native SVG graphics and native animation with addition of 64bit Operating systems like Windows 7 and DDR3 memory are going to bring a revolution of the Web browsing experience. 
HTML 5 is much more than a native H.264 playing, if the enterprises really invest in migrating applications in this language, there will be a profound perception of end user experiences while using the Web. More and more, the web programmers will become professional web designers, something that the Flash designer did 10 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the coming browser generation products like Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4 which support native SVG graphics and native animation with addition of 64bit Operating systems like Windows 7 and DDR3 memory are going to bring a revolution of the Web browsing experience.<br />
HTML 5 is much more than a native H.264 playing, if the enterprises really invest in migrating applications in this language, there will be a profound perception of end user experiences while using the Web. More and more, the web programmers will become professional web designers, something that the Flash designer did 10 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-863018</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, late to this party.

So - what about making the vertical scale a &quot;per web user&quot;? Even while bandwidth has been exploding, it isn&#039;t just driven by the change in usage, but the change in the number of users.

Looking at the shift in both volume and use on a per-user basis would be interesting. I think we might see that email creeps *up* slowly, while video expands.

I&#039;m also curious how we measure &quot;email&quot;, when a huge chunk of Hotmail/Yahoo/Gmail is &quot;web&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, late to this party.</p>
<p>So &#8211; what about making the vertical scale a &#8220;per web user&#8221;? Even while bandwidth has been exploding, it isn&#8217;t just driven by the change in usage, but the change in the number of users.</p>
<p>Looking at the shift in both volume and use on a per-user basis would be interesting. I think we might see that email creeps *up* slowly, while video expands.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also curious how we measure &#8220;email&#8221;, when a huge chunk of Hotmail/Yahoo/Gmail is &#8220;web&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see (hypothetically) how the graph stacks up in terms of actual time spent viewing/reading/consuming in addition to just by bandwidth - when I find something really interesting it&#039;s usually a simple web page that I spend several minutes reading (or hours - the list of 100 greatest magazine articles is a perfect example) while the same amount of bandwidth in video is (I&#039;m guessing here) much shorter than a few minutes.

Furthermore, if you had to rank or value every single bit (say, if you were still on dialup), do you think videos, per byte, would end up anywhere close to the top of the rankings? Sure, some would, but I&#039;d like to think I&#039;m correct in assuming that the vast majority of video on the internet is crap - although that doesn&#039;t mean that a similar proportion of the video *consumed* from the internet is also crap (Though I&#039;m sure 4chan has skewed that statistic forever for numerous cases - then again, someone&#039;s getting a kick out of rickrolling people - there&#039;s value in that too, I think..).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see (hypothetically) how the graph stacks up in terms of actual time spent viewing/reading/consuming in addition to just by bandwidth &#8211; when I find something really interesting it&#8217;s usually a simple web page that I spend several minutes reading (or hours &#8211; the list of 100 greatest magazine articles is a perfect example) while the same amount of bandwidth in video is (I&#8217;m guessing here) much shorter than a few minutes.</p>
<p>Furthermore, if you had to rank or value every single bit (say, if you were still on dialup), do you think videos, per byte, would end up anywhere close to the top of the rankings? Sure, some would, but I&#8217;d like to think I&#8217;m correct in assuming that the vast majority of video on the internet is crap &#8211; although that doesn&#8217;t mean that a similar proportion of the video *consumed* from the internet is also crap (Though I&#8217;m sure 4chan has skewed that statistic forever for numerous cases &#8211; then again, someone&#8217;s getting a kick out of rickrolling people &#8211; there&#8217;s value in that too, I think..).</p>
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		<title>By: j9c</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/is-the-web-really-de.html#comment-863532</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. Wired&#039;s track record is something to behold.
Exhibit B:
&quot;The Long Boom: A History of the Future, 1980 - 2020&quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/longboom.html&quot;&gt;http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/longboom.html&lt;/a&gt; 
Er maybe they meant &quot;long boom&quot; as in &quot;big bang.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Wired&#8217;s track record is something to behold.<br />
Exhibit B:<br />
&#8220;The Long Boom: A History of the Future, 1980 &#8211; 2020&#8243;<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/longboom.html">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.07/longboom.html</a><br />
Er maybe they meant &#8220;long boom&#8221; as in &#8220;big bang.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be interesting, if one could account for protocol use for digital software/music/video-transfer. Because that makes up the big parts of &quot;Other&quot; in the beginning (IRC, DC++, darknets), &quot;FTP&quot; afterwards (remember those ratio-servers?), websites full of free stuff (yeah, that&#039;s where i got my mp3s back then), P2P with the clearest use-case (all those p2p-clients and torrent sites) and in the end with live-streaming of the content.

This should account for more than 70% of internet-traffic at any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be interesting, if one could account for protocol use for digital software/music/video-transfer. Because that makes up the big parts of &#8220;Other&#8221; in the beginning (IRC, DC++, darknets), &#8220;FTP&#8221; afterwards (remember those ratio-servers?), websites full of free stuff (yeah, that&#8217;s where i got my mp3s back then), P2P with the clearest use-case (all those p2p-clients and torrent sites) and in the end with live-streaming of the content.</p>
<p>This should account for more than 70% of internet-traffic at any time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DNS didn&#039;t disappear from the graph because total traffic is growing,it disappeared because the size of transactions increased.  When you use 100 bytes of DNS traffic to sent a 500 byte email, DNS is a noticeable percentage.  When you use 100 bytes of DNS traffic to transfer a 1GB movie, the DNS traffic is inconsequential </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNS didn&#8217;t disappear from the graph because total traffic is growing,it disappeared because the size of transactions increased.  When you use 100 bytes of DNS traffic to sent a 500 byte email, DNS is a noticeable percentage.  When you use 100 bytes of DNS traffic to transfer a 1GB movie, the DNS traffic is inconsequential </p>
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		<title>By: unplus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the brilliant post Rob. What you describe as an &#039;interesting editorial choice&#039;, i.e. &#039;[t]he use of proportion of the total as the vertical axis instead of the actual total&#039; is pretty dominant in most stories of technology diffusion aided by graphs. Attempts at countering the imagery that results from it have been rare. Good luck with yours.

I have a request though. Maybe I am lazy or just ignorant, but after browsing for some minutes I couldnâ€™t find the numbers. Could you provide a direct link to the source data from which you (and Wired) draw the graphs?  I like to check (and play with) the numbers behind graphs on my own. Many thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the brilliant post Rob. What you describe as an &#8216;interesting editorial choice&#8217;, i.e. &#8216;[t]he use of proportion of the total as the vertical axis instead of the actual total&#8217; is pretty dominant in most stories of technology diffusion aided by graphs. Attempts at countering the imagery that results from it have been rare. Good luck with yours.</p>
<p>I have a request though. Maybe I am lazy or just ignorant, but after browsing for some minutes I couldnâ€™t find the numbers. Could you provide a direct link to the source data from which you (and Wired) draw the graphs?  I like to check (and play with) the numbers behind graphs on my own. Many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m viewing this article on a fax machine ... !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m viewing this article on a fax machine &#8230; !</p>
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