Comments on: Wall Street Journal's "cookie madness," and conflict of interest on privacy reporting http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 10:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-866070 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-866070 I think the WSJ has become a tool of special interest so perverse - it should spank itself. A worldwide audience and a third world mentality. I think the WSJ has become a tool of special interest so perverse – it should spank itself.

A worldwide audience and a third world mentality.

]]> By: wygit http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-864545 wygit Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-864545 Wait wait wait! They don't SELL the info, they only RENT IT? Do the 'renters' have to return the data, along with the gif image of a spider, when the rental period is up? ( http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html ) That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a while Wait wait wait!
They don’t SELL the info, they only RENT IT?

Do the ‘renters’ have to return the data, along with the gif image of a spider, when the rental period is up?

( http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html )

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard in a while

]]> By: bobhughes http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-862295 bobhughes Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-862295 i dont even bother trying to find free articles there anyway. it's a neoconservative RAG i dont even bother trying to find free articles there anyway. it’s a neoconservative RAG

]]> By: BillBrazell http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-864356 BillBrazell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-864356 Actually, Anon #3, it *is* true, and by the Journal's own words: http://www.poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=14107 Actually, Anon #3, it *is* true, and by the Journal’s own words:
http://www.poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=14107

]]> By: jackbird http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-864685 jackbird Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-864685 Renting mailing lists is extremely common. It works like this: 1. You rent a mailing list from the WSJ (or anyone else) 2. They provide you with a list of acceptable mailing houses with whom they have big nasty nondisclosure contracts with sharp shiny teeth (or you suggest your own and they approve or don't). 3. You print this mailing house's indicia (the thing that says "Presorted US postage paid, permit # XXX" instead of a stamp) on the envelopes (or they provide their own envelopes). 4a. Your printer sends your mailpieces directly to the mailing house. 4b. The WSJ sends a digital copy of the mailing list to the mailing house. 5. The mailing house (possibly stuffs), addresses, and sends the mail, and pays the bulk rate postage to the post office on your behalf. At no time are you in possession of a digital (or physical) copy of the mailing list, and the only addresses you can glean are the ones that get returned to you as nondeliverable. Renting mailing lists is extremely common. It works like this:

1. You rent a mailing list from the WSJ (or anyone else)
2. They provide you with a list of acceptable mailing houses with whom they have big nasty nondisclosure contracts with sharp shiny teeth (or you suggest your own and they approve or don’t).
3. You print this mailing house’s indicia (the thing that says “Presorted US postage paid, permit # XXX” instead of a stamp) on the envelopes (or they provide their own envelopes).
4a. Your printer sends your mailpieces directly to the mailing house.
4b. The WSJ sends a digital copy of the mailing list to the mailing house.
5. The mailing house (possibly stuffs), addresses, and sends the mail, and pays the bulk rate postage to the post office on your behalf.

At no time are you in possession of a digital (or physical) copy of the mailing list, and the only addresses you can glean are the ones that get returned to you as nondeliverable.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-862157 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-862157 Wait, what? I'm confused. WTJ collects, as everybody else, but they sell it? Wait, what? I’m confused. WTJ collects, as everybody else, but they sell it?

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-864719 EH Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-864719 Shorter Jackbird: The WSJ mails whatever the renter wants to the WSJ's address list. Shorter Jackbird: The WSJ mails whatever the renter wants to the WSJ’s address list.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/17/wall-street-journals.html#comment-863474 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-863474 Except it's not true: From ASHLEY HUSTON, senior director of corporate communications, Dow Jones & Co.: Subject -- Response from WSJ to Bill Brazell's letter. WSJ.com does not sell personally identifiable information of its online users or subscribers, and to suggest otherwise is false and unsupportable. We do rent access to names and mailing address of our print subscribers only to other companies for direct marketing purposes, as has been a common practice among many publishers for decades. [Permalink] Except it’s not true:
From ASHLEY HUSTON, senior director of corporate communications, Dow Jones & Co.: Subject — Response from WSJ to Bill Brazell’s letter. WSJ.com does not sell personally identifiable information of its online users or subscribers, and to suggest otherwise is false and unsupportable. We do rent access to names and mailing address of our print subscribers only to other companies for direct marketing purposes, as has been a common practice among many publishers for decades. [Permalink]

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