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	<title>Comments on: Wikileaks publishes CIA &quot;Red Cell&quot; memo on risks of US perceived as &quot;exporter of&#160;terrorism&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: bobhughes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869632</link>
		<dc:creator>bobhughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utter sillyness, yet I have to laud the CIA for taking time to explore all of the possible angles.

American terrorism: the weathermen, tim mcveigh, abortion clinic bombings and dr slayings, envrio-whacks raiding animal test facilities and setting dealership lots on fire.

Nope, no see much export for that.  Oh wait, there&#039;s always Blackwater/Xe, and their evangelical &quot;tenth crusader&quot; founders, but that connection&#039;s coming from Alex Jones and Hamid Gul of the ISI from a live interview last week.  Is that what they perchance mean by &quot;exporting terorism&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utter sillyness, yet I have to laud the CIA for taking time to explore all of the possible angles.</p>
<p>American terrorism: the weathermen, tim mcveigh, abortion clinic bombings and dr slayings, envrio-whacks raiding animal test facilities and setting dealership lots on fire.</p>
<p>Nope, no see much export for that.  Oh wait, there&#8217;s always Blackwater/Xe, and their evangelical &#8220;tenth crusader&#8221; founders, but that connection&#8217;s coming from Alex Jones and Hamid Gul of the ISI from a live interview last week.  Is that what they perchance mean by &#8220;exporting terorism&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869633</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of you aren&#039;t understand the article because of the wording.  Here&#039;s the most important sentence:

&quot;The report looks at a number cases of US exported terrorism, including attacks by US based or ï¬nanced Jewish, Muslim and Irish-nationalism terrorists.&quot; 

Okay, now let&#039;s take out part of &quot;based or financed&quot; conjunction and see what it&#039;s saying:

&quot;The report looks at a number cases of US exported terrorism, including attacks by US FINANCED Jewish, Muslim and Irish-nationalism terrorist.&quot;

Explanation: We regularly finance terrorists.

Here&#039;s the second and third most important points:

It concludes that foreign perceptions of the US as an &quot;Exporter of Terrorism&quot; together with US DOUBLE STANDARDS IN INTERNATIONAL LAW, may lead to noncooperation in renditions (including the arrest of CIA officers) and the decision to NOT SHARE terrorism related intelligence with the United States.

Explanation:  We regularly break international law and the rest of the government and citizens ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of you aren&#8217;t understand the article because of the wording.  Here&#8217;s the most important sentence:</p>
<p>&#8220;The report looks at a number cases of US exported terrorism, including attacks by US based or ï¬nanced Jewish, Muslim and Irish-nationalism terrorists.&#8221; </p>
<p>Okay, now let&#8217;s take out part of &#8220;based or financed&#8221; conjunction and see what it&#8217;s saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;The report looks at a number cases of US exported terrorism, including attacks by US FINANCED Jewish, Muslim and Irish-nationalism terrorist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Explanation: We regularly finance terrorists.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the second and third most important points:</p>
<p>It concludes that foreign perceptions of the US as an &#8220;Exporter of Terrorism&#8221; together with US DOUBLE STANDARDS IN INTERNATIONAL LAW, may lead to noncooperation in renditions (including the arrest of CIA officers) and the decision to NOT SHARE terrorism related intelligence with the United States.</p>
<p>Explanation:  We regularly break international law and the rest of the government and citizens ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869634</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But when it comes to being perceived as an &#039;exporter&#039;, the word implies some action on the state&#039;s part to nurture/foster/sponsor/deliver it...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t see it that way. Mexico is unquestionably an &quot;exporter&quot; of marijuana, but that doesn&#039;t mean the trade was the government&#039;s idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But when it comes to being perceived as an &#8216;exporter&#8217;, the word implies some action on the state&#8217;s part to nurture/foster/sponsor/deliver it&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t see it that way. Mexico is unquestionably an &#8220;exporter&#8221; of marijuana, but that doesn&#8217;t mean the trade was the government&#8217;s idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869635</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of a confidence builder for anyone wondering if they can outsmart the CIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of a confidence builder for anyone wondering if they can outsmart the CIA.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869654</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s a page sampling early reaction to the release. feel free to click. 

http://tinyurl.com/2v6xyak

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s a page sampling early reaction to the release. feel free to click. </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2v6xyak" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2v6xyak</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dio</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869661</link>
		<dc:creator>Dio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of these scant examples in the document are Americans who joined foreign terrorist organizations and caused trouble. The ideologies were all from outside the US. To say we &quot;export&quot; terrorism based on these examples is as weak as the people trying to claim this is proof of anything significant. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of these scant examples in the document are Americans who joined foreign terrorist organizations and caused trouble. The ideologies were all from outside the US. To say we &#8220;export&#8221; terrorism based on these examples is as weak as the people trying to claim this is proof of anything significant. </p>
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		<title>By: grimc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869665</link>
		<dc:creator>grimc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;they do seem to define &#039;export&#039; a lot more loosely than is usually done&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that&#039;s the purpose of the exercise--what if the international community starts applying the same wobbly definition that the US government applies to others e.g. Saddam&#039;s Iraq vis a vis Al Qaeda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>they do seem to define &#8216;export&#8217; a lot more loosely than is usually done</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the purpose of the exercise&#8211;what if the international community starts applying the same wobbly definition that the US government applies to others e.g. Saddam&#8217;s Iraq vis a vis Al Qaeda.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869677</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t there a bigger issue here: Why was this document was classified as &quot;secret&quot; in the first place? Secret classification is supposed to be reserved for documents with the potential to &quot;cause grave damage to national security&quot; if released to the public. At worst, this is awkward and potentially embarrassing.

Keep at it, Julian. The sad fact is that the U.S. government has been misusing its classified information system to hide its own doubts and misgivings about policy from the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there a bigger issue here: Why was this document was classified as &#8220;secret&#8221; in the first place? Secret classification is supposed to be reserved for documents with the potential to &#8220;cause grave damage to national security&#8221; if released to the public. At worst, this is awkward and potentially embarrassing.</p>
<p>Keep at it, Julian. The sad fact is that the U.S. government has been misusing its classified information system to hide its own doubts and misgivings about policy from the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869697</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;d like to know is, is downloading either a file or torrent from wikileaks protected in any way? They say they keep no server logs, but what is done to protect the people who download things from there?

Can anyone comment on that? Their site does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;d like to know is, is downloading either a file or torrent from wikileaks protected in any way? They say they keep no server logs, but what is done to protect the people who download things from there?</p>
<p>Can anyone comment on that? Their site does not.</p>
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		<title>By: Prufrock451</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869699</link>
		<dc:creator>Prufrock451</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget Contras, anti-Castro exiles, the School of the Americas, Operation Rollback, Chinese Nationalists in Burma, CIA-trained Tibetan exiles, William Walker, the Gutierrez-Magee Expedition, the Kemper brothers, Joel Poinsett, privateers in a half-dozen wars, CIA air interventions (Congo, Indonesia, and Guatemala, mercs (Rhodesia, Congo, Angola), the PLM in Baja California, Charles Lallemand, Porfirio Diaz, Joseph Shelby (Mexico, 1865), Jose Carvajal, Henry Crabb, Juan Jose Flores, Lee Christmas, and I will stop there before I cramp up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget Contras, anti-Castro exiles, the School of the Americas, Operation Rollback, Chinese Nationalists in Burma, CIA-trained Tibetan exiles, William Walker, the Gutierrez-Magee Expedition, the Kemper brothers, Joel Poinsett, privateers in a half-dozen wars, CIA air interventions (Congo, Indonesia, and Guatemala, mercs (Rhodesia, Congo, Angola), the PLM in Baja California, Charles Lallemand, Porfirio Diaz, Joseph Shelby (Mexico, 1865), Jose Carvajal, Henry Crabb, Juan Jose Flores, Lee Christmas, and I will stop there before I cramp up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869702</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only that, but this article does not say the U.S. is training these &quot;exported&quot; terrorists ... merely that they originate from here.  

Some of these replies seem to think the U.S. is training and exporting terrorists as a matter of policy.  That might be true, but that&#039;s not what the article is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, but this article does not say the U.S. is training these &#8220;exported&#8221; terrorists &#8230; merely that they originate from here.  </p>
<p>Some of these replies seem to think the U.S. is training and exporting terrorists as a matter of policy.  That might be true, but that&#8217;s not what the article is about.</p>
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		<title>By: grimc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869707</link>
		<dc:creator>grimc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and we can all be sure that foreign citizens and governments will make the same distinction, because it&#039;s unpossible for the US to be the bad guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and we can all be sure that foreign citizens and governments will make the same distinction, because it&#8217;s unpossible for the US to be the bad guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Trotsky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869712</link>
		<dc:creator>Trotsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our war colleges would *NEVER* provide instruction on committing effective terrorist acts. What we do teach is &quot;asymmetrical warfare&quot; and &quot;counterinsurgency&quot; which are totally, totally different!

Problem with producing so many accomplished graduates is that sometimes your star pupils get tired of killing Russians and decide to hold a reunion back in the nation that educated them just for &quot;old time&#039;s sake.&quot;

America is a nation of blow-out and blow-back.

We suck *AND* blow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our war colleges would *NEVER* provide instruction on committing effective terrorist acts. What we do teach is &#8220;asymmetrical warfare&#8221; and &#8220;counterinsurgency&#8221; which are totally, totally different!</p>
<p>Problem with producing so many accomplished graduates is that sometimes your star pupils get tired of killing Russians and decide to hold a reunion back in the nation that educated them just for &#8220;old time&#8217;s sake.&#8221;</p>
<p>America is a nation of blow-out and blow-back.</p>
<p>We suck *AND* blow.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869729</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going theorist here because, frankly, it&#039;s fun.

I think it&#039;s odd that the one document to be released that the average American might read (3 pages, perfect) both makes the government look good, AND ties in that little possibility of a threat that &quot;Hey, people dissapear &#039;round here ALLLL the time.&quot; 


You mutants need to take a course at ATS.. those guys think way outside the box, for free. So i consider them a service.
and this a controlled release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going theorist here because, frankly, it&#8217;s fun.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s odd that the one document to be released that the average American might read (3 pages, perfect) both makes the government look good, AND ties in that little possibility of a threat that &#8220;Hey, people dissapear &#8217;round here ALLLL the time.&#8221; </p>
<p>You mutants need to take a course at ATS.. those guys think way outside the box, for free. So i consider them a service.<br />
and this a controlled release.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869738</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Nobody in the US wants to listen to Noam Chomsky?

That&#039;s weird because I though that me, my family and friends, classmates and dozens of others who I know have been listening to him for decades. Guess I just imagined all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Nobody in the US wants to listen to Noam Chomsky?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s weird because I though that me, my family and friends, classmates and dozens of others who I know have been listening to him for decades. Guess I just imagined all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869998</link>
		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I guess we should have just left the Afghans to be killed in the biggest genocide since WWII (Cambodia was a bigger percentage of population but Afghanistan has the biggest body count.). I would argue that the problem was hardly the arming of the populace against the Soviet puppet government&#039;s publicly stated goal of killing 9 million people so as to leave their 2 million &quot;progressive&quot; pets free to screw things up.  After all, all of that equipment rusted away long ago and it&#039;s not like the Afghans couldn&#039;t fight asymmetric warfare before the Yanks took an interest. Rather it was our callously walking away from any restoration attempts after the drama of the war was over.  Since Afghanistan didn&#039;t, and still doesn&#039;t, have any easily exploitable resources no one cared about the resulting chaos (eg, the most landmines per capita in the world) except the Taliban.&lt;br&gt;
Well, that and the War On Some People Who Use Some Drugs that puts narcocracies in charge of much of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I guess we should have just left the Afghans to be killed in the biggest genocide since WWII (Cambodia was a bigger percentage of population but Afghanistan has the biggest body count.). I would argue that the problem was hardly the arming of the populace against the Soviet puppet government&#8217;s publicly stated goal of killing 9 million people so as to leave their 2 million &#8220;progressive&#8221; pets free to screw things up.  After all, all of that equipment rusted away long ago and it&#8217;s not like the Afghans couldn&#8217;t fight asymmetric warfare before the Yanks took an interest. Rather it was our callously walking away from any restoration attempts after the drama of the war was over.  Since Afghanistan didn&#8217;t, and still doesn&#8217;t, have any easily exploitable resources no one cared about the resulting chaos (eg, the most landmines per capita in the world) except the Taliban.<br />
Well, that and the War On Some People Who Use Some Drugs that puts narcocracies in charge of much of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-870015</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since Afghanistan didn&#039;t, and still doesn&#039;t, have any easily exploitable resources&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html&quot;&gt;Um........?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since Afghanistan didn&#8217;t, and still doesn&#8217;t, have any easily exploitable resources</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html">Um&#8230;&#8230;..?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-870272</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Julian really cares about that angle - the document makes interesting reading and is classified (for no justifiable reason that I can discern).

For the latter reason alone it should be leaked. If you look at WikiLeaks&#039; short history it&#039;s basically a whole load of documents like this, they&#039;re not interesting on their own - but fascinating when the picture begins to come together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Julian really cares about that angle &#8211; the document makes interesting reading and is classified (for no justifiable reason that I can discern).</p>
<p>For the latter reason alone it should be leaked. If you look at WikiLeaks&#8217; short history it&#8217;s basically a whole load of documents like this, they&#8217;re not interesting on their own &#8211; but fascinating when the picture begins to come together.</p>
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		<title>By: anwaya</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869762</link>
		<dc:creator>anwaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The document presents a surprisingly narrow definition of the terrorism the US has exported over the years: none of it is performed by State actors.

So NORAID gets a mention for its support of the IRA in the 1970&#039;s, but says nothing of the School of the Americas (SOA: now renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, or WHINSEC). According to SOA Watch, the SOA taught some 14% of Pinochet&#039;s Intelligence Service in counter-insurgency, interrogation, and counter-intelligence: in the league of States that maintained power through terror, Pinochet&#039;s Chile must be near the top, and the SOA made an important contribution to Pinochet&#039;s ability to sustain his brutal reign for as long as he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The document presents a surprisingly narrow definition of the terrorism the US has exported over the years: none of it is performed by State actors.</p>
<p>So NORAID gets a mention for its support of the IRA in the 1970&#8242;s, but says nothing of the School of the Americas (SOA: now renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, or WHINSEC). According to SOA Watch, the SOA taught some 14% of Pinochet&#8217;s Intelligence Service in counter-insurgency, interrogation, and counter-intelligence: in the league of States that maintained power through terror, Pinochet&#8217;s Chile must be near the top, and the SOA made an important contribution to Pinochet&#8217;s ability to sustain his brutal reign for as long as he did.</p>
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		<title>By: MrJM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869520</link>
		<dc:creator>MrJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t they understand? 

We&#039;re the Good Guysâ„¢

If you don&#039;t believe it, just look at our white hats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t they understand? </p>
<p>We&#8217;re the Good Guysâ„¢</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t believe it, just look at our white hats!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-870288</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, an interesting point of view from ATS, by user Regensturm:

&quot;The document appears to look at the issue of the US being an exporter of terrorism via it&#039;s citizens. 

Actually, the issue of US being an exporter of terrorism and it being internationally understood is not because of American citizens on the whole, but because of the US Government and it&#039;s alphabet agencies (mainly the CIA) sponsoring military coups, dictatorships, terrorist groups, assassinations, bombings, shootings and economic sabotage and sanctions globally to achieve the aims of the US Corporate elite and government and it&#039;s backers which have led to the suffering, maiming, and killing of countless numbers of people worldwide. 

The CIA document wishes to portray the danger of the US being recognised as an exporter of terrorism internationally because of American citizens. 

A poor attempt by the CIA to deflect the blame for the US being recognised as exporting international terrorism away from itself. 

The CIA is saying here to blame the American citizen, Make the American citizen the enemy terrorist instead, putting aside the fact that terrorist attacks by American citizens are minicule compared to those carried out in the name of the CIA and American government. 

A precursor document &#039;justifying&#039; a real clampdown, I fear. The citizen it seems, is now to be designated the enemy and the terrorist, not the CIA.&quot;

this would also support a controlled leak. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, an interesting point of view from ATS, by user Regensturm:</p>
<p>&#8220;The document appears to look at the issue of the US being an exporter of terrorism via it&#8217;s citizens. </p>
<p>Actually, the issue of US being an exporter of terrorism and it being internationally understood is not because of American citizens on the whole, but because of the US Government and it&#8217;s alphabet agencies (mainly the CIA) sponsoring military coups, dictatorships, terrorist groups, assassinations, bombings, shootings and economic sabotage and sanctions globally to achieve the aims of the US Corporate elite and government and it&#8217;s backers which have led to the suffering, maiming, and killing of countless numbers of people worldwide. </p>
<p>The CIA document wishes to portray the danger of the US being recognised as an exporter of terrorism internationally because of American citizens. </p>
<p>A poor attempt by the CIA to deflect the blame for the US being recognised as exporting international terrorism away from itself. </p>
<p>The CIA is saying here to blame the American citizen, Make the American citizen the enemy terrorist instead, putting aside the fact that terrorist attacks by American citizens are minicule compared to those carried out in the name of the CIA and American government. </p>
<p>A precursor document &#8216;justifying&#8217; a real clampdown, I fear. The citizen it seems, is now to be designated the enemy and the terrorist, not the CIA.&#8221;</p>
<p>this would also support a controlled leak. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869790</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re sure that they are in the minority?  Are you kidding me?  The intelligence community in general is staffed by some of the most intelligent people in the USA, and the CIA is at the top.  If you are looking for morons, then you should be honing in on elected representatives.  I wept for my country when I read your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re sure that they are in the minority?  Are you kidding me?  The intelligence community in general is staffed by some of the most intelligent people in the USA, and the CIA is at the top.  If you are looking for morons, then you should be honing in on elected representatives.  I wept for my country when I read your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: TomDArch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869541</link>
		<dc:creator>TomDArch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this proves to be a real CIA document, all snarkyness aside, it really is good to know that there are non-morons at the CIA.  I&#039;m sure they&#039;re a minority, but they, hopefully, help to moderate the overall culture of stupidity.

Perhaps, though, it&#039;s telling that such a memo actually had to be written - that this isn&#039;t plainly obvious to everyone in the CIA.

&quot;Really?  Funding and training nasty people around the world for short-term gain in proxy conflicts can turn around and bite us in the ass?  I hadn&#039;t thought of that!  Next you&#039;re going to tell me that training and funding Islamic militants in Afghanistan to fight against the Soviet occupation somehow created problems for the US.  That would be silly!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this proves to be a real CIA document, all snarkyness aside, it really is good to know that there are non-morons at the CIA.  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re a minority, but they, hopefully, help to moderate the overall culture of stupidity.</p>
<p>Perhaps, though, it&#8217;s telling that such a memo actually had to be written &#8211; that this isn&#8217;t plainly obvious to everyone in the CIA.</p>
<p>&#8220;Really?  Funding and training nasty people around the world for short-term gain in proxy conflicts can turn around and bite us in the ass?  I hadn&#8217;t thought of that!  Next you&#8217;re going to tell me that training and funding Islamic militants in Afghanistan to fight against the Soviet occupation somehow created problems for the US.  That would be silly!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-870053</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree about Chomsky. I stopped reading books about six years ago. All he does is explain the problems, never the solutions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree about Chomsky. I stopped reading books about six years ago. All he does is explain the problems, never the solutions. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869548</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody in the US wants to listen to Noam Chomsky. Who has been saying exactly all of this for his entire activist career and getting the cold shoulder from the US.

Hopefully wikileaks can get some heads turned to this truth with another great leak! (Though I doubt it...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody in the US wants to listen to Noam Chomsky. Who has been saying exactly all of this for his entire activist career and getting the cold shoulder from the US.</p>
<p>Hopefully wikileaks can get some heads turned to this truth with another great leak! (Though I doubt it&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Junior</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869551</link>
		<dc:creator>Junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeebus, are you guys so blinded by your foregone conclusion about the evil of the modern state to even read the damn thing?

Is the memorandum about us as an exporter of terrorism as your headline suggests, or is it about the hypothetical perception of that?

It&#039;s not suggesting we sponsor, or even export terrorism - it&#039;s about the hypothetical of what happens if we are *perceived* as doing so.

It cites examples of American citizens who become terrorists and attack *us* and our allies from outside the country.  Not terrorists that we have fostered/sponsored/exported.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeebus, are you guys so blinded by your foregone conclusion about the evil of the modern state to even read the damn thing?</p>
<p>Is the memorandum about us as an exporter of terrorism as your headline suggests, or is it about the hypothetical perception of that?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not suggesting we sponsor, or even export terrorism &#8211; it&#8217;s about the hypothetical of what happens if we are *perceived* as doing so.</p>
<p>It cites examples of American citizens who become terrorists and attack *us* and our allies from outside the country.  Not terrorists that we have fostered/sponsored/exported.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Wilco</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869554</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Wilco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Cell - putting the &quot;intelligence&quot; back in CIA one leaked document at a time.</description>
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		<title>By: Junior</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869555</link>
		<dc:creator>Junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Not that I&#039;d dispute that the modern state is inherently evil, mind you; but don&#039;t stop reading.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Not that I&#8217;d dispute that the modern state is inherently evil, mind you; but don&#8217;t stop reading.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869557</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. We&#039;re going to complain about the CIA being self aware now?</description>
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		<title>By: VICTOR JIMENEZ</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/25/wikileaks-publishes-3.html#comment-869564</link>
		<dc:creator>VICTOR JIMENEZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I readed the document I was like &quot;No shit Sherlock! CIA has discover the wheel!&quot;

Certainly putting the Intelligence back into the CIA acronym. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I readed the document I was like &#8220;No shit Sherlock! CIA has discover the wheel!&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly putting the Intelligence back into the CIA acronym. </p>
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