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		<title>By: nutbastard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870658</link>
		<dc:creator>nutbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How much is 10 or more extra years of healthy retirement worth to you in dollars?&quot;

I don&#039;t know, how much does 10 extra years of healthy retirement *cost*?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How much is 10 or more extra years of healthy retirement worth to you in dollars?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, how much does 10 extra years of healthy retirement *cost*?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-871170</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.
I&#039;ve seen all the infractions you mention from the seat of my bicycle.  All of them involving cars.

I no longer cycle.  Why?  It&#039;s too easy and cheap to drive.  I do miss my fitness and stamina, but I am having such a good time sitting here typing nonsense, gaining pounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen all the infractions you mention from the seat of my bicycle.  All of them involving cars.</p>
<p>I no longer cycle.  Why?  It&#8217;s too easy and cheap to drive.  I do miss my fitness and stamina, but I am having such a good time sitting here typing nonsense, gaining pounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-871682</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My kids and I ride bikes to get to school rather than take the bus.  We love doing this every day, it is great time together and great exercise.  The only problem I have ever had with bikes on the road is that they want to share the road, but the don&#039;t want to obey the traffic rules.  Stop signs for example...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My kids and I ride bikes to get to school rather than take the bus.  We love doing this every day, it is great time together and great exercise.  The only problem I have ever had with bikes on the road is that they want to share the road, but the don&#8217;t want to obey the traffic rules.  Stop signs for example&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nutbastard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870661</link>
		<dc:creator>nutbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh that said, i did lose 10lbs at burning man last year, in no small part from all the bike riding. but it was a bad 10lbs to lose - at 6&#039;1&quot; it&#039;s no good to drop down to 150lbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh that said, i did lose 10lbs at burning man last year, in no small part from all the bike riding. but it was a bad 10lbs to lose &#8211; at 6&#8217;1&#8243; it&#8217;s no good to drop down to 150lbs.</p>
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		<title>By: nutbastard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870917</link>
		<dc:creator>nutbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;30 miles is a bit of distance but still shouldn&#039;t take 4 hours. A bike designed for speed should do it in 2 hours, easy.&quot;

I neglected to mention that this particular route entails some severe elevation changes. starting at 1500 feet, you climb to 3100 feet in 5 miles, then descend to 300 feet over the next 7 miles, then basically flat for the remaining 18 miles.

not TOO bad on the way there, but the way back? fuuuuuuuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;30 miles is a bit of distance but still shouldn&#8217;t take 4 hours. A bike designed for speed should do it in 2 hours, easy.&#8221;</p>
<p>I neglected to mention that this particular route entails some severe elevation changes. starting at 1500 feet, you climb to 3100 feet in 5 miles, then descend to 300 feet over the next 7 miles, then basically flat for the remaining 18 miles.</p>
<p>not TOO bad on the way there, but the way back? fuuuuuuuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-873990</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ulti, image envisages the fact. Commendable creativity. Supporting bike as it produces ZERO Carbon footprint for the sake of precious earth and priceless life. I earn money to live life longer and happier. Bike ride helps for burning fats and saving money at present and in future(hospitalization costs) and forever (green environment).

Didnt read all comments but i read first comment by WhittyCommentar, its hilarious dude... Drink and Drive is legal only for Bicycle :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ulti, image envisages the fact. Commendable creativity. Supporting bike as it produces ZERO Carbon footprint for the sake of precious earth and priceless life. I earn money to live life longer and happier. Bike ride helps for burning fats and saving money at present and in future(hospitalization costs) and forever (green environment).</p>
<p>Didnt read all comments but i read first comment by WhittyCommentar, its hilarious dude&#8230; Drink and Drive is legal only for Bicycle :)</p>
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		<title>By: nutbastard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870921</link>
		<dc:creator>nutbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve had this car for 1.5 years, total cost of ownership is at... lets see... $900 on tires, $3700 for the car to begin with, figure $100 for oil, $900 for insurance, and about $130/month for gas... so... $7900 over 18 months is $438 a month, however the car is still worth at least $3k so were I to sell it, net cost is $272 a month, or about $9 a day. but half of that is just the initial cost of the car itself. besides, driving is FUN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve had this car for 1.5 years, total cost of ownership is at&#8230; lets see&#8230; $900 on tires, $3700 for the car to begin with, figure $100 for oil, $900 for insurance, and about $130/month for gas&#8230; so&#8230; $7900 over 18 months is $438 a month, however the car is still worth at least $3k so were I to sell it, net cost is $272 a month, or about $9 a day. but half of that is just the initial cost of the car itself. besides, driving is FUN.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870922</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most places, bikes count as vehicles and are entitled to occupy an entire lane if they choose to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most places, bikes count as vehicles and are entitled to occupy an entire lane if they choose to.</p>
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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870673</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>touche</description>
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		<title>By: delt664</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870931</link>
		<dc:creator>delt664</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell you what.....

Let me ride my motorcycle in bike lanes when I want to get around traffic, and I will ignore the several bicyclists I see illegally lane splitting, running red lights, hopping on and off sidewalks, and riding crosswalks on a daily basis.

If not, maybe its time to push for licensing and registration of ALL vehicles that operate on the road......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you what&#8230;..</p>
<p>Let me ride my motorcycle in bike lanes when I want to get around traffic, and I will ignore the several bicyclists I see illegally lane splitting, running red lights, hopping on and off sidewalks, and riding crosswalks on a daily basis.</p>
<p>If not, maybe its time to push for licensing and registration of ALL vehicles that operate on the road&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: McMonahan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870676</link>
		<dc:creator>McMonahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riding my bike to work has less to do with the dollars and cents of bike vs. car (+ parking!) and more to do with the health advantages.  Not only do I feel and look better but my commute provides a nice separation between home and work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riding my bike to work has less to do with the dollars and cents of bike vs. car (+ parking!) and more to do with the health advantages.  Not only do I feel and look better but my commute provides a nice separation between home and work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heheh, so start doing the math on what you spend - unnecessarily - in a gym and how much time you spend there. Then add to that the time, money and pain inherent in being unhealthy, overweight and not being able to work because of yet another slipped disc (and the rising health insurance cost). Add on top what you and your following generations are and will be subjected to because short-term thinkers were polluting the world with loads and loads of cars.
What do you come up with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heheh, so start doing the math on what you spend &#8211; unnecessarily &#8211; in a gym and how much time you spend there. Then add to that the time, money and pain inherent in being unhealthy, overweight and not being able to work because of yet another slipped disc (and the rising health insurance cost). Add on top what you and your following generations are and will be subjected to because short-term thinkers were polluting the world with loads and loads of cars.<br />
What do you come up with?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-876054</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,
You do cycle commuting a hugh disservice. Your wrecklessness should be ticketed - sorry you don&#039;t feel responsible for your actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,<br />
You do cycle commuting a hugh disservice. Your wrecklessness should be ticketed &#8211; sorry you don&#8217;t feel responsible for your actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-872474</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that you can get a ticket for both, and I know people that have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that you can get a ticket for both, and I know people that have.</p>
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		<title>By: keitmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870684</link>
		<dc:creator>keitmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bicycle DUI (BUI?) statutes are per-state. For example, it&#039;s legal in Washington State. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.790</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bicycle DUI (BUI?) statutes are per-state. For example, it&#8217;s legal in Washington State. <a href="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.790" rel="nofollow">http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.790</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-872479</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 30 mile bike ride should only take 2 hours max. But, for many would take 1.5 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 30 mile bike ride should only take 2 hours max. But, for many would take 1.5 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870690</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it is not the worst problem to have to solve :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it is not the worst problem to have to solve :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-872235</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t exercise, then the fitness gained is priceless.  If you do exercise, then bicycling to work will offset time you would otherwise spend at the gym, so you can subtract that from your time cost.  As far as the long commute goes, consider doing a hybrid commute.  Similar to using a park and ride, you can drive to the city limits and then bicycle to work from there.  As far as fat goes, yes a car makes you fat just like a chair.  What&#039;s your point?  The car still makes you fat. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t exercise, then the fitness gained is priceless.  If you do exercise, then bicycling to work will offset time you would otherwise spend at the gym, so you can subtract that from your time cost.  As far as the long commute goes, consider doing a hybrid commute.  Similar to using a park and ride, you can drive to the city limits and then bicycle to work from there.  As far as fat goes, yes a car makes you fat just like a chair.  What&#8217;s your point?  The car still makes you fat. </p>
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		<title>By: SeattlePete</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870701</link>
		<dc:creator>SeattlePete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gotten 2 tickets while riding a bike before.  Both were classified as moving violations, but did not impact by auto insurance.  Both times I was in a situation where I was not able to stop safely, and so chose to A) change lanes without signaling and B) pass through an intersection while a pedestrian was in it.

Both times I was actively jeered by the people in their cars as I was getting the ticket (and both times this was a motorcycle cop that pulled me over).  &quot;Lock him up!&quot;...&quot;cuff him!&quot;...&quot;use the taser!&quot;...people were soooo excited to see me getting a ticket on my bike.  At first I was kind of pissed about it, but as the abuse continued I realized that I was making these peoples day.  They were on their way, like me, to another soul-sucking day of drudgery at the office, but now they were excited, elated and thrilled to get to work and tell all their friends about the schmuck on the bike who got pulled over.

I guess what I am trying to say is...cops suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotten 2 tickets while riding a bike before.  Both were classified as moving violations, but did not impact by auto insurance.  Both times I was in a situation where I was not able to stop safely, and so chose to A) change lanes without signaling and B) pass through an intersection while a pedestrian was in it.</p>
<p>Both times I was actively jeered by the people in their cars as I was getting the ticket (and both times this was a motorcycle cop that pulled me over).  &#8220;Lock him up!&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;cuff him!&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;use the taser!&#8221;&#8230;people were soooo excited to see me getting a ticket on my bike.  At first I was kind of pissed about it, but as the abuse continued I realized that I was making these peoples day.  They were on their way, like me, to another soul-sucking day of drudgery at the office, but now they were excited, elated and thrilled to get to work and tell all their friends about the schmuck on the bike who got pulled over.</p>
<p>I guess what I am trying to say is&#8230;cops suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-871727</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ride ~45 minutes one way to work.  Surprisingly my drive, on the exact same route (it&#039;s faster than the highway) is ~25 minutes.  I consider an extra 20 minutes one way to be worth the fitness advantages.

I&#039;m also a fairly law abiding cyclist.  I will take the lane, as is my right, if it is unsafe for a car to pass, or unsafe for me to be close to the edge.  

I&#039;m not perfect.  I don&#039;t run red-lights, but I will roll slowly through stop signs if I can visually confirm there is no on-coming traffic (remember, my line of sight is higher than almost all cars, and pretty close to 360 without obstructions).  Given the number of cars that roll through stop signs anyway, I don&#039;t feel particularly guilty about this.

Why do I do this?  Becuase it takes a lot more energy to stop the bicycle, put a foot down, and restart then it does to alternately press the brake then the gas.  I&#039;m not perfect, but neither is anyone else, and at least I&#039;ve got a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ride ~45 minutes one way to work.  Surprisingly my drive, on the exact same route (it&#8217;s faster than the highway) is ~25 minutes.  I consider an extra 20 minutes one way to be worth the fitness advantages.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a fairly law abiding cyclist.  I will take the lane, as is my right, if it is unsafe for a car to pass, or unsafe for me to be close to the edge.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not perfect.  I don&#8217;t run red-lights, but I will roll slowly through stop signs if I can visually confirm there is no on-coming traffic (remember, my line of sight is higher than almost all cars, and pretty close to 360 without obstructions).  Given the number of cars that roll through stop signs anyway, I don&#8217;t feel particularly guilty about this.</p>
<p>Why do I do this?  Becuase it takes a lot more energy to stop the bicycle, put a foot down, and restart then it does to alternately press the brake then the gas.  I&#8217;m not perfect, but neither is anyone else, and at least I&#8217;ve got a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly McPherson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870967</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s plenty of bad behavior from cyclists; I&#039;ve become less inclined to make excuses for my fellow riders as I&#039;ve seen it myself over the years.

A couple notes, though:

1. Bikes can generally occupy full lanes when it would be unsafe to do otherwise. That&#039;s certainly the law where I live.

2. Judging from my commute, I&#039;m one of the more law-abiding bikers in the city I live in, but even I ride through every stop sign if there&#039;s no one around. 

Sure, it&#039;s breaking the law, but even the police don&#039;t seem to care, and I&#039;d rather break the law than waste the energy of coming to a full stop at every empty intersection.

If pedestrians or cars have right of way, one should stop, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s plenty of bad behavior from cyclists; I&#8217;ve become less inclined to make excuses for my fellow riders as I&#8217;ve seen it myself over the years.</p>
<p>A couple notes, though:</p>
<p>1. Bikes can generally occupy full lanes when it would be unsafe to do otherwise. That&#8217;s certainly the law where I live.</p>
<p>2. Judging from my commute, I&#8217;m one of the more law-abiding bikers in the city I live in, but even I ride through every stop sign if there&#8217;s no one around. </p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s breaking the law, but even the police don&#8217;t seem to care, and I&#8217;d rather break the law than waste the energy of coming to a full stop at every empty intersection.</p>
<p>If pedestrians or cars have right of way, one should stop, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: skeletoncityrepeater</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-871992</link>
		<dc:creator>skeletoncityrepeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people posting here seem to be in California. The Vehicle Code and its practical legal interpretations are easy to find on the DMV site and other bike-related sites. As I recall, it&#039;s OK to ride 2 by 2, if there is more than one lane in that direction, but the pairs should flatten to 1 by 1 if impeding the lane. Also, bicylce lanes are pretty unsafe in most parts of town because they are right next to the unpredictable parked cars.  Most cyclists (lawful and unlawful) would rather ride close to same-direction traffic than to hit a sharp, stationary car door. In general, the bike can have as much lane as is necessary for the rider to feel safe. (As a side note, I do stop at lights and slow nearly to a stop at stop signs, enough to see all traffic in all directions. And it&#039;s not a considerable &#039;waste of energy&#039; to stop, that is laughable, bikes are made for efficiency and start back up with the weight of the rider... I&#039;m sure the guy who posted about that is not on a 25 pound Huffy Beach Cruiser.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people posting here seem to be in California. The Vehicle Code and its practical legal interpretations are easy to find on the DMV site and other bike-related sites. As I recall, it&#8217;s OK to ride 2 by 2, if there is more than one lane in that direction, but the pairs should flatten to 1 by 1 if impeding the lane. Also, bicylce lanes are pretty unsafe in most parts of town because they are right next to the unpredictable parked cars.  Most cyclists (lawful and unlawful) would rather ride close to same-direction traffic than to hit a sharp, stationary car door. In general, the bike can have as much lane as is necessary for the rider to feel safe. (As a side note, I do stop at lights and slow nearly to a stop at stop signs, enough to see all traffic in all directions. And it&#8217;s not a considerable &#8216;waste of energy&#8217; to stop, that is laughable, bikes are made for efficiency and start back up with the weight of the rider&#8230; I&#8217;m sure the guy who posted about that is not on a 25 pound Huffy Beach Cruiser.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-876090</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nutbastard&#039;s perspective is indicative of the problem our planet is facing. Our top transportation priorities are convenience, speed and cost to the end user, not health, safety and responsability.

Personally I make transportation decisions based not only on the cost to myself but to the planet and to my community. The cost of destroying communities by building freeways through them is inestimable in terms of health problems, increased crime and plummeting property values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nutbastard&#8217;s perspective is indicative of the problem our planet is facing. Our top transportation priorities are convenience, speed and cost to the end user, not health, safety and responsability.</p>
<p>Personally I make transportation decisions based not only on the cost to myself but to the planet and to my community. The cost of destroying communities by building freeways through them is inestimable in terms of health problems, increased crime and plummeting property values.</p>
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		<title>By: WhittyCommentary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870972</link>
		<dc:creator>WhittyCommentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t going to say anything but it&#039;s been bothering me.  Your friend almost got a DUI on a bicycle and the cop let them go?

Can we imagine this scenario happening with a car?  

No...we can&#039;t.  It&#039;s grossly irresponsible to be driving drunk in the first place and it&#039;s even more irresponsible to let someone riding their bike drunk off the hook.  Of course they aren&#039;t operating a piece of machinery that weighs thousands of pounds...

But they could swerve in front of it in a drunken stupor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to say anything but it&#8217;s been bothering me.  Your friend almost got a DUI on a bicycle and the cop let them go?</p>
<p>Can we imagine this scenario happening with a car?  </p>
<p>No&#8230;we can&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s grossly irresponsible to be driving drunk in the first place and it&#8217;s even more irresponsible to let someone riding their bike drunk off the hook.  Of course they aren&#8217;t operating a piece of machinery that weighs thousands of pounds&#8230;</p>
<p>But they could swerve in front of it in a drunken stupor.</p>
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		<title>By: WhittyCommentary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870975</link>
		<dc:creator>WhittyCommentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great point.  I think I&#039;ll start cruising through stop signs in my car.  I mean....total waste of energy for me to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great point.  I think I&#8217;ll start cruising through stop signs in my car.  I mean&#8230;.total waste of energy for me to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Neon Tooth</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870722</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon Tooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those seem like ridiculously trivial things to get a ticket for, I imagine that while you were getting your ticket a number of more serious car violations were probably taking place all around you.  I&#039;m not surprised to hear about the drivers whoopin&#039; it up, we live in a culture that&#039;s very anti-bike.  Jealously, stupidity, ignorance?  Maybe all three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those seem like ridiculously trivial things to get a ticket for, I imagine that while you were getting your ticket a number of more serious car violations were probably taking place all around you.  I&#8217;m not surprised to hear about the drivers whoopin&#8217; it up, we live in a culture that&#8217;s very anti-bike.  Jealously, stupidity, ignorance?  Maybe all three.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870723</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chairs are unhealthy!!! http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/stand-up-while-you-read-this/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chairs are unhealthy!!! <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/stand-up-while-you-read-this/" rel="nofollow">http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/stand-up-while-you-read-this/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John V</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-872515</link>
		<dc:creator>John V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is that people who ride bikes have to answer for the bad behavior or smugness of anyone who&#039;s ever thrown a leg over a bike? This is probably how Muslims feel lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is that people who ride bikes have to answer for the bad behavior or smugness of anyone who&#8217;s ever thrown a leg over a bike? This is probably how Muslims feel lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly McPherson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870984</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, they&#039;re a perfect parallel, aren&#039;t they? Bikes are different from cars, in turns of range of vision, maneuverability and the physical energy required to start and stop.

If you Google &quot;Bicycles Yield at Stop Signs,&quot; you&#039;ll see that a number of groups have proposed enabling cyclists to legally treat stop signs as yield signs (as they do in reality). This is currently the law in Idaho.

Of course, cars follow the rules of the road without exception, so I can see where bikes riding through an empty intersection is infuriating.

In any case, it seems you want to rant instead of having a discussion, so I&#039;ll leave it there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they&#8217;re a perfect parallel, aren&#8217;t they? Bikes are different from cars, in turns of range of vision, maneuverability and the physical energy required to start and stop.</p>
<p>If you Google &#8220;Bicycles Yield at Stop Signs,&#8221; you&#8217;ll see that a number of groups have proposed enabling cyclists to legally treat stop signs as yield signs (as they do in reality). This is currently the law in Idaho.</p>
<p>Of course, cars follow the rules of the road without exception, so I can see where bikes riding through an empty intersection is infuriating.</p>
<p>In any case, it seems you want to rant instead of having a discussion, so I&#8217;ll leave it there.</p>
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		<title>By: WhittyCommentary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/08/26/snapshot-bike-lane-i.html#comment-870985</link>
		<dc:creator>WhittyCommentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t live in New Zealand.</description>
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