Comments on: Shiner's Glimpses back in print, free download: brilliant, haunted rock-n-roll novel http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 09:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: thereminman http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-876545 thereminman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-876545 I once bought 3 copies of this book so that I could loan it out without fear of loosing my copy. Thanks to James Gardner above for turning me on to this novel in the first place. I once bought 3 copies of this book so that I could loan it out without fear of loosing my copy. Thanks to James Gardner above for turning me on to this novel in the first place.

]]> By: braininavat http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873229 braininavat Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873229 Just here to say that 'Frontera' is one of my favorites from the cyberpunk era and is definitely worth a read too. Just here to say that ‘Frontera’ is one of my favorites from the cyberpunk era and is definitely worth a read too.

]]> By: Chuk http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873516 Chuk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873516 Good news, I loved this book (even when it was talking about music I didn't know). Good news, I loved this book (even when it was talking about music I didn’t know).

]]> By: Flying_Monkey http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-874031 Flying_Monkey Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-874031 Very glad to make your day, Lewis. And you get the terminology right - clearly you're more of a musician than I am, which also shows in your work! Very glad to make your day, Lewis. And you get the terminology right – clearly you’re more of a musician than I am, which also shows in your work!

]]> By: Bloo http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873806 Bloo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873806 Loved this book when it came out. Gave it to a friend who is way into music (plays in bands, went to more concerts than I did in late 60s, early 70s, and a LOT more once I got married, had kids, etc (70s until now)). He was blown away. Nice side note: Smile being released at some point after I read the book. Loved this book when it came out. Gave it to a friend who is way into music (plays in bands, went to more concerts than I did in late 60s, early 70s, and a LOT more once I got married, had kids, etc (70s until now)). He was blown away.

Nice side note: Smile being released at some point after I read the book.

]]> By: Flying_Monkey http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873302 Flying_Monkey Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873302 Will have to get this! I have never read it, and I loved both Slam and Frontera for very different reasons. Will have to get this! I have never read it, and I loved both Slam and Frontera for very different reasons.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873828 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873828 This really is a wonderful book. Don't know where my original copy is but I'm excited to reread it now. This really is a wonderful book. Don’t know where my original copy is but I’m excited to reread it now.

]]> By: magpiekilljoy http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873327 magpiekilljoy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873327 I'm really excited to see Shiner's work starting to come back into print! It has always completely baffled me (as well as effectively damning any sympathy I might have had towards the mainstream book publishers) that an award-winning, cyberpunk pioneering, awesome writer like Shiner always has his work out of print. I interviewed Shiner for my book Mythmakers & Lawbreakers, and since my publisher let me do it creative commons, you can actually download just the interview with Shiner if you're interested: http://www.tangledwilderness.org/?p=301 (whole book is here: http://www.akpress.org/2009/items/mythmakersandlawbreakers ) He's a hell of a smart guy. I’m really excited to see Shiner’s work starting to come back into print! It has always completely baffled me (as well as effectively damning any sympathy I might have had towards the mainstream book publishers) that an award-winning, cyberpunk pioneering, awesome writer like Shiner always has his work out of print.

I interviewed Shiner for my book Mythmakers & Lawbreakers, and since my publisher let me do it creative commons, you can actually download just the interview with Shiner if you’re interested:
http://www.tangledwilderness.org/?p=301
(whole book is here: http://www.akpress.org/2009/items/mythmakersandlawbreakers )
He’s a hell of a smart guy.

]]> By: Lewis Shiner http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873592 Lewis Shiner Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873592 Thanks, everybody, for the good words. @anon#10--I just checked the PDF again, and it looks good here. Try downloading again. @chumpmeat--Here's some of the stuff I fixed in the new edition: 1) John is not playing a sunburst Strat on "Long and Winding Road"--it's a Fender VI bass (actually baritone guitar). 2) The correct name of Danny Hutton's hit is "Roses and Rainbows," not "Roses and Rainbows Are You." 3) Van Dyke's then-wife spelled her name Durrie, not Durry. There are a bunch more, but that gives you an idea. There were a ton of typos that made it into the first printing. I fixed a bunch, and introduced at least a couple of new ones. I'll keep fixing the PDF, by the way, so if you find anything, please let me know at lew@lewisshiner.com. @Flying_Monkey--Being compared to a tube amp vs. solid state is one of the great compliments I've ever had. Thanks! Thanks, everybody, for the good words.

@anon#10–I just checked the PDF again, and it looks good here. Try downloading again.

@chumpmeat–Here’s some of the stuff I fixed in the new edition: 1) John is not playing a sunburst Strat on “Long and Winding Road”–it’s a Fender VI bass (actually baritone guitar). 2) The correct name of Danny Hutton’s hit is “Roses and Rainbows,” not “Roses and Rainbows Are You.” 3) Van Dyke’s then-wife spelled her name Durrie, not Durry. There are a bunch more, but that gives you an idea. There were a ton of typos that made it into the first printing. I fixed a bunch, and introduced at least a couple of new ones. I’ll keep fixing the PDF, by the way, so if you find anything, please let me know at lew@lewisshiner.com.

@Flying_Monkey–Being compared to a tube amp vs. solid state is one of the great compliments I’ve ever had. Thanks!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873353 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873353 oops: " a a free PDF download " - doubled the 'a' there my love. oops: ” a a free PDF download ”
– doubled the ‘a’ there my love.

]]> By: doggo http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873359 doggo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873359 Good. I hope a new audience develops for Shiner's work. Loved Deserted Cities of the Heart, Frontera, & Slam. Especially Slam. Good. I hope a new audience develops for Shiner’s work. Loved Deserted Cities of the Heart, Frontera, & Slam. Especially Slam.

]]> By: DrPretto http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873876 DrPretto Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873876 The song I wrote about taking more than 100 takes (102) to record was "Not Guilty" and not "I me mine". It was a George Harrison song released on Anthology 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Guilty_(song) The song I wrote about taking more than 100 takes (102) to record was “Not Guilty” and not “I me mine”. It was a George Harrison song released on Anthology 3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Guilty_(song)

]]> By: chumpmeat http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873119 chumpmeat Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873119 Well hot damn, good going Lew! Though I'm pretty sure I've got my original copy of Glimpses around here somewhere . . . Glimpses is a VERY moving, beautifully written and inspiring work of imagination. Highly worth checking out if you aren't already a fan. What's with the 'definitive edition' though? What changes had to be made to the earlier version? Well hot damn, good going Lew! Though I’m pretty sure I’ve got my original copy of Glimpses around here somewhere . . .

Glimpses is a VERY moving, beautifully written and inspiring work of imagination. Highly worth checking out if you aren’t already a fan.

What’s with the ‘definitive edition’ though? What changes had to be made to the earlier version?

]]> By: Promethean Sky http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873639 Promethean Sky Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873639 Glimpses is one of my all time favorite books. Unfortunately the local library doesn't carry any of Shiner's books, so I am very excited to read his other works. Heck, even my father like Glimpses, and he wouldn't touch fantasy with a ten foot pole. Glimpses is one of my all time favorite books. Unfortunately the local library doesn’t carry any of Shiner’s books, so I am very excited to read his other works.

Heck, even my father like Glimpses, and he wouldn’t touch fantasy with a ten foot pole.

]]> By: DrPretto http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873135 DrPretto Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873135 Thanks, I am fan of Beatles, Classic Rock, alternate history, and fiction. As a Beatles fan I know much of the studio sessions have been released (not every single take of every song, sometimes they took more than 100 takes to record, for example on the song "I me mine"). To me, more interesting than studio versions are live concerts of good quality officially unreleased in DVD (Shea Stadium and Munich 1966). In the case of Hendrix there is a huge amount of unreleased unknown studio versions, a good example is the recently released Valleys of Neptune (the best version of "Hear my train" released). Hendrix and The Beatles had something in common, infinite creativity, always doing something new, not repeating the formula ad nauseum. I am 30, and dont know how to explain it but I feel a strong connection to everything related to the 60s, where is my time machine? Thanks, I am fan of Beatles, Classic Rock, alternate history, and fiction.
As a Beatles fan I know much of the studio sessions have been released (not every single take of every song, sometimes they took more than 100 takes to record, for example on the song “I me mine”). To me, more interesting than studio versions are live concerts of good quality officially unreleased in DVD (Shea Stadium and Munich 1966).

In the case of Hendrix there is a huge amount of unreleased unknown studio versions, a good example is the recently released Valleys of Neptune (the best version of “Hear my train” released).
Hendrix and The Beatles had something in common, infinite creativity, always doing something new, not repeating the formula ad nauseum.

I am 30, and dont know how to explain it but I feel a strong connection to everything related to the 60s, where is my time machine?

]]> By: Flying_Monkey http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873394 Flying_Monkey Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873394 I agree with magpie killjoy on the bafflement. I always found Shiner's work a lot warmer and mroe messily human than that of that of either Stirling or Gibson (the two giants of cyberpunk). It's only a feeling not a critical judgement - something like listening to sound through valve amplifiers as opposed to electronic ones. Perhaps this is a both a reason why he has been relatively neglected and why he deserves a wider readership. I agree with magpie killjoy on the bafflement.

I always found Shiner’s work a lot warmer and mroe messily human than that of that of either Stirling or Gibson (the two giants of cyberpunk). It’s only a feeling not a critical judgement – something like listening to sound through valve amplifiers as opposed to electronic ones. Perhaps this is a both a reason why he has been relatively neglected and why he deserves a wider readership.

]]> By: Mike http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873144 Mike Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873144 Nice. I love this novel for introducing me to Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds. Nice. I love this novel for introducing me to Brian Wilson’s Pet Sounds.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873934 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873934 A beautiful and haunting story- I loaned it out and it never returned, so this is great news. A beautiful and haunting story- I loaned it out and it never returned, so this is great news.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-873427 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-873427 Sounds really cool and right up my alley and I’d like to check this out, but what’s with all the missing pages in the .pdf? I’m on pg 15 and there’s been 3 or 4 already. Anyone else with this problem? Sounds really cool and right up my alley and I’d like to check this out, but what’s with all the missing pages in the .pdf? I’m on pg 15 and there’s been 3 or 4 already. Anyone else with this problem?

]]> By: James A. Gardner http://boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html#comment-874235 James A. Gardner Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-874235 This is wonderful news! This book changed my life. Once you've read GLIMPSES (again), come talk about it and his other writing on the Facebook group someone put up, The Lewis Shiner Appreciation Society: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Lewis-Shiner-Appreciation-Society/143125009049253?v=app_2373072738&ref=ts#!/pages/The-Lewis-Shiner-Appreciation-Society/143125009049253?v=wall&ref=ts This is wonderful news! This book changed my life.

Once you’ve read GLIMPSES (again), come talk about it and his other writing on the Facebook group someone put up, The Lewis Shiner Appreciation Society:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Lewis-Shiner-Appreciation-Society/143125009049253?v=app_2373072738&ref=ts#!/pages/The-Lewis-Shiner-Appreciation-Society/143125009049253?v=wall&ref=ts

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