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	<title>Comments on: Rob Cockerham&#039;s quest for a solid ice beer&#160;tray</title>
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		<title>By: erratic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876566</link>
		<dc:creator>erratic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;snobbery&gt;
or just buy quality beer that doesn&#039;t need to be ice cold to mask the poor taste?
&lt;/snobbery&gt;

but, seriously, that&#039;s some fun tinkering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;snobbery&gt;<br />
or just buy quality beer that doesn&#8217;t need to be ice cold to mask the poor taste?<br />
&lt;/snobbery&gt;</p>
<p>but, seriously, that&#8217;s some fun tinkering.</p>
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		<title>By: seanboing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876313</link>
		<dc:creator>seanboing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob Cockerham, you are awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob Cockerham, you are awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-877088</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paulatz - yes, but the intervening layer of melted ice should stay at the freezing point as long as there is sufficient ice, transfering heat efficiently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paulatz &#8211; yes, but the intervening layer of melted ice should stay at the freezing point as long as there is sufficient ice, transfering heat efficiently.</p>
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		<title>By: erratic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876591</link>
		<dc:creator>erratic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awww, the comment system edited out my novelty HTML tags &quot;snobery&quot; and &quot;/snobery&quot; above  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awww, the comment system edited out my novelty HTML tags &#8220;snobery&#8221; and &#8220;/snobery&#8221; above  :(</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876593</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The water outside would still expand, crushing and locking the can or breaking the bottle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The water outside would still expand, crushing and locking the can or breaking the bottle.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876605</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you use html, you get html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you use html, you get html.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-916036</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so much work for something that is simple.

1. put an inch or so of water in the bottom of the tray. 
2. freeze it.
3. Take unopened cans or cans filled with bbs, dirt, marbles(whatever floats your boat)
4. Spray outside of cans with cooking spray.
5. Put the cans in the tray.
6. Fill with water.
7. freeze.
8. remove cans and you are done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so much work for something that is simple.</p>
<p>1. put an inch or so of water in the bottom of the tray.<br />
2. freeze it.<br />
3. Take unopened cans or cans filled with bbs, dirt, marbles(whatever floats your boat)<br />
4. Spray outside of cans with cooking spray.<br />
5. Put the cans in the tray.<br />
6. Fill with water.<br />
7. freeze.<br />
8. remove cans and you are done.</p>
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		<title>By: beejamin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876613</link>
		<dc:creator>beejamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought of pykrete, too! I bet shredded newspaper would work as a reinforcing/insulating agent, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought of pykrete, too! I bet shredded newspaper would work as a reinforcing/insulating agent, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: graywh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-877126</link>
		<dc:creator>graywh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, no handle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, no handle?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876360</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want to try this, but where I live the time for ice cold outdoor beer is pretty much over. Here&#039;s hoping that I will remember bookmark or procedure come next summer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to try this, but where I live the time for ice cold outdoor beer is pretty much over. Here&#8217;s hoping that I will remember bookmark or procedure come next summer. </p>
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		<title>By: foxtails</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876361</link>
		<dc:creator>foxtails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be simpler to find some slightly-tapered plastic cups about the same size as a 12-oz beverage can, and crazy-glue them to the lid of the container to make a mold? A hole in the lid would make it easy to fill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be simpler to find some slightly-tapered plastic cups about the same size as a 12-oz beverage can, and crazy-glue them to the lid of the container to make a mold? A hole in the lid would make it easy to fill.</p>
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		<title>By: Flashman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s excellent, great idea! 
I can&#039;t believe Martha Stewart didn&#039;t want to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s excellent, great idea!<br />
I can&#8217;t believe Martha Stewart didn&#8217;t want to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876381</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, make it out of Pykrete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, make it out of Pykrete.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876897</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just take the top off some cans, pack them with dry sand and wait for the ice to freeze. When it does, it&#039;s no problem to tip the sand out, pour some hot water into the cans and have your container ready about a minute after taking it out of the freezer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just take the top off some cans, pack them with dry sand and wait for the ice to freeze. When it does, it&#8217;s no problem to tip the sand out, pour some hot water into the cans and have your container ready about a minute after taking it out of the freezer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the block is going to be floating in the pool, I&#039;d also consider making the first layer of ice a fair bit deeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the block is going to be floating in the pool, I&#8217;d also consider making the first layer of ice a fair bit deeper.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you can drill holes in a block of ice:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#drill-bits-for-wood

For cans, buy the 2 1/2 inch, plonk it on a drill press, and you have a tray making machine (plus shaved ice!)

Or save a few bucks and get the adjustable one.  Good for cans and bottles.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you can drill holes in a block of ice:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcmaster.com/#drill-bits-for-wood" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcmaster.com/#drill-bits-for-wood</a></p>
<p>For cans, buy the 2 1/2 inch, plonk it on a drill press, and you have a tray making machine (plus shaved ice!)</p>
<p>Or save a few bucks and get the adjustable one.  Good for cans and bottles.</p>
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		<title>By: El Mariachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t an ice water bath transfer heat from the can more efficiently?  Plus it&#039;s refillable once it gets too melty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t an ice water bath transfer heat from the can more efficiently?  Plus it&#8217;s refillable once it gets too melty.</p>
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		<title>By: hershmire</title>
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		<dc:creator>hershmire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcohol is exactly what I thought. Needs a bit of a chemistry re-intro, methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcohol is exactly what I thought. Needs a bit of a chemistry re-intro, methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876690</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;where I live the time for ice cold outdoor beer is pretty much over&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where I live, the season for going outdoors hasn&#039;t even started yet. It was 113Â° today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>where I live the time for ice cold outdoor beer is pretty much over</p></blockquote>
<p>Where I live, the season for going outdoors hasn&#8217;t even started yet. It was 113Â° today.</p>
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		<title>By: Powell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876946</link>
		<dc:creator>Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I salute this man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I salute this man!</p>
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		<title>By: taghag</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/09/02/rob-cockerhams-quest.html#comment-876696</link>
		<dc:creator>taghag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great home practical engineering project!  the end result is much nicer than i expected.  i also like the self-awareness in his writing style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great home practical engineering project!  the end result is much nicer than i expected.  i also like the self-awareness in his writing style.</p>
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		<title>By: paulatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS much as I like the project, this is not the best way to cool down some beers: the usual semi-melted ice &quot;granita&quot; has the advantage of always being in contact with the can, for optimal heat transfer. Those holes, instead, will become larger when they start to melt dramatically reducing the contact area (down to a single vertical line of tangency, in the ideal case).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS much as I like the project, this is not the best way to cool down some beers: the usual semi-melted ice &#8220;granita&#8221; has the advantage of always being in contact with the can, for optimal heat transfer. Those holes, instead, will become larger when they start to melt dramatically reducing the contact area (down to a single vertical line of tangency, in the ideal case).</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why couldn&#039;t you just fill the cans with a mixture of water and alcohol - say, half-way? The alcohol would lower the freezing point of the water inside, so it would stay liquid and not expand. 

I normally love Rob&#039;s investigations, but this just seems like bad process - maybe i&#039;ve come to expect more from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why couldn&#8217;t you just fill the cans with a mixture of water and alcohol &#8211; say, half-way? The alcohol would lower the freezing point of the water inside, so it would stay liquid and not expand. </p>
<p>I normally love Rob&#8217;s investigations, but this just seems like bad process &#8211; maybe i&#8217;ve come to expect more from him.</p>
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		<title>By: imag</title>
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		<dc:creator>imag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great project!  Loved the read.

Paulatz: you get the No S.S. award for the day.</description>
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<p>Paulatz: you get the No S.S. award for the day.</p>
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