Comments on: Batman vs. MDMA http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 07:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: bardfinn http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880643 bardfinn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880643 I reject your reality and substitute my own. MMMmmmmmmm Julie Newmar. I reject your reality and substitute my own.

MMMmmmmmmm Julie Newmar.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880649 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880649 @ #13 Very possible. Any substance that elicits as strong a reaction as MDMA can lead to negative reactions whether it's physiologic sensitivity/allergy(never heard of anyone allergic but it's possible) or simply emotional/psychological freakout. Open your mind sir. @ #13

Very possible. Any substance that elicits as strong a reaction as MDMA can lead to negative reactions whether it’s physiologic sensitivity/allergy(never heard of anyone allergic but it’s possible) or simply emotional/psychological freakout. Open your mind sir.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880909 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880909 KILL ALL ! ! ! NEED MOAAARRRRRRRR XTC ! ! ! KILL ALL ! ! !
NEED MOAAARRRRRRRR XTC ! ! !

]]> By: baracudaboy http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-883728 baracudaboy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-883728 Why in gods name would anyone want to kill someone while high on Ecstasy? All I ever want to do on E is hug people and dance to bad music... Why in gods name would anyone want to kill someone while high on Ecstasy?
All I ever want to do on E is hug people and dance to bad music…

]]> By: knoxblox http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880401 knoxblox Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880401 I can see the headlines now: Ecstasy-Fueled Serial Killer Hugs, Kisses 7 to Death I can see the headlines now: Ecstasy-Fueled Serial Killer Hugs, Kisses 7 to Death

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880404 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880404 I would have thought Bane would be Batman's main foe in the War On Drugs, what with him being steroid-powered and all. I would have thought Bane would be Batman’s main foe in the War On Drugs, what with him being steroid-powered and all.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880405 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880405 I'm pretty sure that Adam West Batman would have taken Robin's X and split it with Julie Newmar Catwoman. I’m pretty sure that Adam West Batman would have taken Robin’s X and split it with Julie Newmar Catwoman.

]]> By: Trent Hawkins http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880407 Trent Hawkins Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880407 Batman looks so much like Big Shot from the Tick in that picture. Batman looks so much like Big Shot from the Tick in that picture.

]]> By: hassenpfeffer http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880409 hassenpfeffer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880409 "You know what it's like, Mr. Fox. You're at a party, it's late, somebody starts passing around weaponized hallucinogens..." Ecstasy seems pretty tame both in relation to Bane's steroids and to Scarecrow's pharmacopia. And what about Joker gas? “You know what it’s like, Mr. Fox. You’re at a party, it’s late, somebody starts passing around weaponized hallucinogens…”

Ecstasy seems pretty tame both in relation to Bane’s steroids and to Scarecrow’s pharmacopia. And what about Joker gas?

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880412 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880412 I think you have that backwards. Batman only had one underwear-clad companion on that show and it wasn't Julie Newmar. I think you have that backwards. Batman only had one underwear-clad companion on that show and it wasn’t Julie Newmar.

]]> By: nixiebunny http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880438 nixiebunny Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880438 As if anyone on E would want to kill anyone. Ever. As if anyone on E would want to kill anyone. Ever.

]]> By: kleer001 http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880446 kleer001 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880446 @nixiebunny I've personally known several people who had adverse paranoid reactions to MDMA. It's rare, but still sad. @nixiebunny I’ve personally known several people who had adverse paranoid reactions to MDMA. It’s rare, but still sad.

]]> By: nixiebunny http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880456 nixiebunny Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880456 I'm just saying that if you want to write about killers, E is about the last drug to use as a scapegoat. Meth, yes. Alcohol, for certain. but E? highly suspect. Now, if you wanted to write about the perils of all-night dancing and dehydration, then you've got a story. I’m just saying that if you want to write about killers, E is about the last drug to use as a scapegoat. Meth, yes. Alcohol, for certain. but E? highly suspect.

Now, if you wanted to write about the perils of all-night dancing and dehydration, then you’ve got a story.

]]> By: akbar56 http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880477 akbar56 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880477 I remember reading this back in the day when it came out. Favorite character drawn by my favorite artist yet the message still bugged me. Re-read it a few years ago after experiencing MDMA for real and just had to laugh at it. Still, it's very sad that they had to use Ecstasy as their scapegoat. What is interesting to me is not 10 months earlier in the same comic, Batman encountered a new designer drug called "Fever" (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Fever_%28Narcotic%29) that was much more logical in it's approach and even tho it was a fictional narcotic, it dealt with the known problems of drugs/psychotropics in a much better way. Even for a comic book. Fast forward 8 years and in Shadow of the Bat #56-58 Batman encounters Poison Ivy working for the Floronic Man making a "super advanced marijuana" that he wanted to get everyone in the world stoned so he could take over. The story does the normal "just say no/drugs are bad" route for the most part but in the end the conclusion is very ambiguous. One could easily assume there was a conflict between editorial mandate to make this story vs. writers going "but its just weed!" I remember reading this back in the day when it came out. Favorite character drawn by my favorite artist yet the message still bugged me. Re-read it a few years ago after experiencing MDMA for real and just had to laugh at it. Still, it’s very sad that they had to use Ecstasy as their scapegoat. What is interesting to me is not 10 months earlier in the same comic, Batman encountered a new designer drug called “Fever” (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Fever_%28Narcotic%29) that was much more logical in it’s approach and even tho it was a fictional narcotic, it dealt with the known problems of drugs/psychotropics in a much better way. Even for a comic book.

Fast forward 8 years and in Shadow of the Bat #56-58 Batman encounters Poison Ivy working for the Floronic Man making a “super advanced marijuana” that he wanted to get everyone in the world stoned so he could take over. The story does the normal “just say no/drugs are bad” route for the most part but in the end the conclusion is very ambiguous. One could easily assume there was a conflict between editorial mandate to make this story vs. writers going “but its just weed!”

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880478 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880478 I like to call thins supervillian GLOWSTICK I like to call thins supervillian GLOWSTICK

]]> By: semiotix http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-881053 semiotix Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-881053 [Someone on a bad ecstacy trip probably] <i>Had underlying or pre-existing problems which remained hidden in their sober state, but came out under the emotional outpouring that is common for some takers of X.</i> Well, yeah, but there you go. Peanuts and shellfish are great too unless you die from an allergic reaction the first time you eat them. A bad trip is a bad trip is a bad trip. Besides, so-called paradoxical reactions are quite common in drugs that affect the brain. That's why the fine print on every box of sleeping pills says "MAY CAUSE SLEEPLESSNESS." Stimulants make people drowsy sometimes, too. Antidepressants very frequently make people more depressed, etc. etc. This isn't directed at any one comment here, but with all the blistering stupidity of the War On Drugs mentality (and BOY is there a lot of it) it's easy to forget that psychotropic drugs are not inherently good things. Rave kiddies and stoners are frequently adorable and worthy of sympathy; MDMA's just a molecule someone cooked up in a lab. [Someone on a bad ecstacy trip probably] Had underlying or pre-existing problems which remained hidden in their sober state, but came out under the emotional outpouring that is common for some takers of X.

Well, yeah, but there you go. Peanuts and shellfish are great too unless you die from an allergic reaction the first time you eat them. A bad trip is a bad trip is a bad trip.

Besides, so-called paradoxical reactions are quite common in drugs that affect the brain. That’s why the fine print on every box of sleeping pills says “MAY CAUSE SLEEPLESSNESS.” Stimulants make people drowsy sometimes, too. Antidepressants very frequently make people more depressed, etc. etc.

This isn’t directed at any one comment here, but with all the blistering stupidity of the War On Drugs mentality (and BOY is there a lot of it) it’s easy to forget that psychotropic drugs are not inherently good things. Rave kiddies and stoners are frequently adorable and worthy of sympathy; MDMA’s just a molecule someone cooked up in a lab.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-881055 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-881055 This Batman image reminds me of nothing so much as Dennis Hopper in <i>Blue Velvet</i> ... ANGRY FETISH MAN TO THE RESCUE!! HE WILL GRIMACE AND BEAT PEOPLE UNTIL EVERYTHING GETS BETTER!! Yes, yes, it's everybody <i>else</i> who has some kind of drug problem. This Batman image reminds me of nothing so much as Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet … ANGRY FETISH MAN TO THE RESCUE!! HE WILL GRIMACE AND BEAT PEOPLE UNTIL EVERYTHING GETS BETTER!! Yes, yes, it’s everybody else who has some kind of drug problem.

]]> By: gwailo_joe http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880548 gwailo_joe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880548 Read it. Own it. Worked at a comic book shoppe when it came out: Scotts Comics @ 23rd and Mission. Remember that, SF heads? But while I remember that as a great run of BM artist/writer combos. . .that rang false even before I immersed myself into the drug subculture. (and the first time I dropped I was like OMG OMG I'm so Happyyyyyyyy!!!. . .) You want a killer drug? No F-ing contest: Booze is the drug to die by and kill by, hands down. I think I shall now drink champagne and inhale illicit substances: and the neighborhood is still safe: Thanks Batman! Read it. Own it. Worked at a comic book shoppe when it came out: Scotts Comics @ 23rd and Mission. Remember that, SF heads?

But while I remember that as a great run of BM artist/writer combos. . .that rang false even before I immersed myself into the drug subculture.

(and the first time I dropped I was like OMG OMG I’m so Happyyyyyyyy!!!. . .)

You want a killer drug? No F-ing contest: Booze is the drug to die by and kill by, hands down.

I think I shall now drink champagne and inhale illicit substances: and the neighborhood is still safe: Thanks Batman!

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-881082 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-881082 Well as long as we're allowed to make up our own erotic Batman fantasies I choose to keep Julie Newmar but substitute Adam West with Lee Meriwether. And throw in Eartha Kitt to complete the Catwoman trifecta. Meow! Well as long as we’re allowed to make up our own erotic Batman fantasies I choose to keep Julie Newmar but substitute Adam West with Lee Meriwether. And throw in Eartha Kitt to complete the Catwoman trifecta. Meow!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880577 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880577 kleer001, Not possible if they had actual pure MDMA. More likely your friends took something being passed of as Ecstasy (like DXM)or a badly adulterated mixture with MDMA and other drugs in a single pill. kleer001, Not possible if they had actual pure MDMA.
More likely your friends took something being passed of as Ecstasy (like DXM)or a badly adulterated mixture with MDMA and other drugs in a single pill.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880580 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880580 The villain will definitely start monologue-ing, though!! For hours. The villain will definitely start monologue-ing, though!! For hours.

]]> By: teapot http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880841 teapot Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880841 Nothing is ever 'not possible', as everyone has the potential to be allergic to anything... but the drive of your comment is right. kleer001: I can almost guarantee that the people you know did one or a combination of 3 things: 1) Took a pressed X pill, which can contain just about anything. All one has to do is go to pillreports.com or the Microgram Bulletin <a href="http://boingboing.net/2009/03/19/colorful-ecstasy-mim.html">as linked on BB last year</a> to see what kinds of crazy crap ends up in pills sold as X. 2) Took a combination of various drugs, or several different X pills under the assumption that they were all the same. Not all drugs play nice. I've had ketamine sold as X before... there are no safeguards beyond getting a reagent kit (finding and using only one dealer you trust can help with this, but it's never a guarantee). 3) Had underlying or pre-existing problems which remained hidden in their sober state, but came out under the emotional outpouring that is common for some takers of X. What a load of shit the war on drugs is... what a waste of life and resources. In any case, we all know that batman is keeping a little secret - look >> http://i55.tinypic.com/b5he6a.jpg Nothing is ever ‘not possible’, as everyone has the potential to be allergic to anything… but the drive of your comment is right.

kleer001: I can almost guarantee that the people you know did one or a combination of 3 things:

1) Took a pressed X pill, which can contain just about anything. All one has to do is go to pillreports.com or the Microgram Bulletin as linked on BB last year to see what kinds of crazy crap ends up in pills sold as X.

2) Took a combination of various drugs, or several different X pills under the assumption that they were all the same. Not all drugs play nice. I’ve had ketamine sold as X before… there are no safeguards beyond getting a reagent kit (finding and using only one dealer you trust can help with this, but it’s never a guarantee).

3) Had underlying or pre-existing problems which remained hidden in their sober state, but came out under the emotional outpouring that is common for some takers of X.

What a load of shit the war on drugs is… what a waste of life and resources. In any case, we all know that batman is keeping a little secret – look >>

http://i55.tinypic.com/b5he6a.jpg

]]> By: nutbastard http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-881108 nutbastard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-881108 Batman VS.... The Cuddler! Peddling drugs is one dubstep over the line in Gotham! Bang! Thwapp! Thiz! Will Batman be able to defeat this diabolical doctor of dirty drops? Or will he succumb to serotonin? Tune in next week to find out! Batman VS…. The Cuddler! Peddling drugs is one dubstep over the line in Gotham!

Bang!

Thwapp!

Thiz!

Will Batman be able to defeat this diabolical doctor of dirty drops? Or will he succumb to serotonin? Tune in next week to find out!

]]> By: The Mudshark http://boingboing.net/2010/09/08/batman-vs-mdma.html#comment-880862 The Mudshark Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-880862 I sure as hell didn´t feel like killing anyone, but I remember experiencing unnatural amounts of joy putting new sheets on my bed. I sure as hell didn´t feel like killing anyone, but I remember experiencing unnatural amounts of joy putting new sheets on my bed.

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