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		<title>By: CatherineCC</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900361</link>
		<dc:creator>CatherineCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Inhouse does sell meds without a prescription. 
Most trans people can&#039;t afford / don&#039;t have access to doctors who would write a script for hormones (thanks to the bigotry prevalent in many parts of the USA). 

Inhouse also sells HIV retrovirals, allergy inhalers, anti depression meds and a wide variety of meds that are essential to the people taking them. Now these people will be forced to pay 3 times more, if they can even afford it. 

It&#039;s going to result in deaths. God Bless America.


swadeshine, yes, it is. The usa is going to start yanking domain names because it thinks they own DNS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Inhouse does sell meds without a prescription.<br />
Most trans people can&#8217;t afford / don&#8217;t have access to doctors who would write a script for hormones (thanks to the bigotry prevalent in many parts of the USA). </p>
<p>Inhouse also sells HIV retrovirals, allergy inhalers, anti depression meds and a wide variety of meds that are essential to the people taking them. Now these people will be forced to pay 3 times more, if they can even afford it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to result in deaths. God Bless America.</p>
<p>swadeshine, yes, it is. The usa is going to start yanking domain names because it thinks they own DNS.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900111</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have purchased my medicine from this company for many years. In Australia progynova is legal and cheap and I just go to my regular doctor for a prescription. In the US however, I can get the prescription, but guess what... the drug does not make enough money for a company in the US to push it through the FDA. SO I have to order it from overseas anyway.

Either way, now they will not ship to the US, and I need to find a new source before my current supply runs out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have purchased my medicine from this company for many years. In Australia progynova is legal and cheap and I just go to my regular doctor for a prescription. In the US however, I can get the prescription, but guess what&#8230; the drug does not make enough money for a company in the US to push it through the FDA. SO I have to order it from overseas anyway.</p>
<p>Either way, now they will not ship to the US, and I need to find a new source before my current supply runs out.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900123</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patents are not it. Canada honours drug patents. Canada legislates price caps for some drugs, and restricts drug advertising. That&#039;s why drugs are cheaper here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patents are not it. Canada honours drug patents. Canada legislates price caps for some drugs, and restricts drug advertising. That&#8217;s why drugs are cheaper here.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-901407</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;d be happy to outsource my entire government to Canada and sell our Congress to forced labor camps in China.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As what, feed? It takes a dozen people to get one of them dressed and presentable in the morning. They wouldn&#039;t make very good workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;d be happy to outsource my entire government to Canada and sell our Congress to forced labor camps in China.</p></blockquote>
<p>As what, feed? It takes a dozen people to get one of them dressed and presentable in the morning. They wouldn&#8217;t make very good workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Baldhead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900388</link>
		<dc:creator>Baldhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drug companies spend a HUGE amount of money on advertising. Watch US TV for a month and you want to talk to your doctor and ask them why you don&#039;t need any prescription drugs. Is there something wrong with me? is that why I feel fine? The US health Care system allows them to inflate the prices to such a level, where the same companies simply aren&#039;t allowed to do it in Canada and other places. A profit is still made, it&#039;s just not enough to buy a new yacht every year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drug companies spend a HUGE amount of money on advertising. Watch US TV for a month and you want to talk to your doctor and ask them why you don&#8217;t need any prescription drugs. Is there something wrong with me? is that why I feel fine? The US health Care system allows them to inflate the prices to such a level, where the same companies simply aren&#8217;t allowed to do it in Canada and other places. A profit is still made, it&#8217;s just not enough to buy a new yacht every year.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900133</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to tirade about drug companies and how they alone have shaped the federal and private climate that provides them their enormous margins.. as well as direct to consumer advertising and doctor detailing.. but instead i just want to point out that mail order pharmacy is not a model in your best interest.  Soon, if corps like CVS Caremark, other PBMs and the Feds have their way you will all be receiving your prescriptions through mailorder only.  Think medication errors are bad now?  Wait until your insurance company forces you to mail order only.  Want to ask the pharmacist a question about your meds?  Pick up the phone and hope they route you to a good one.. or wait for that email/chat session. Do yourselves and loved ones a favor, support local INDEPENDENT pharmacies.  As far as price goes, i have nothing for you there.  Mailorder will be cheaper, it&#039;s true. It&#039;s a more efficient business model.. i&#039;ve been looking into Canada&#039;s immigration guidelines myself.  As far as transgender people.. they knew that before and after the pricey operations there would be pricey drugs...  their sexuality may not have been their choice, but the decision to have surgery etc. was..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to tirade about drug companies and how they alone have shaped the federal and private climate that provides them their enormous margins.. as well as direct to consumer advertising and doctor detailing.. but instead i just want to point out that mail order pharmacy is not a model in your best interest.  Soon, if corps like CVS Caremark, other PBMs and the Feds have their way you will all be receiving your prescriptions through mailorder only.  Think medication errors are bad now?  Wait until your insurance company forces you to mail order only.  Want to ask the pharmacist a question about your meds?  Pick up the phone and hope they route you to a good one.. or wait for that email/chat session. Do yourselves and loved ones a favor, support local INDEPENDENT pharmacies.  As far as price goes, i have nothing for you there.  Mailorder will be cheaper, it&#8217;s true. It&#8217;s a more efficient business model.. i&#8217;ve been looking into Canada&#8217;s immigration guidelines myself.  As far as transgender people.. they knew that before and after the pricey operations there would be pricey drugs&#8230;  their sexuality may not have been their choice, but the decision to have surgery etc. was..</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900150</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several people are missing the point here. 

inhousepharmacy do NOT manufacture drugs so they are not ripping off intellectual property rights. They buy their drugs, in many cases, from the same companies that US pharmacies do (e.g. Glaxo Smith Cline, Cipla, Merck) for in-patent and generic drugs or reliable generic manufacturers for out of patent drugs. They are based in Vanuatu which is not exactly a hot house of high tech industry.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several people are missing the point here. </p>
<p>inhousepharmacy do NOT manufacture drugs so they are not ripping off intellectual property rights. They buy their drugs, in many cases, from the same companies that US pharmacies do (e.g. Glaxo Smith Cline, Cipla, Merck) for in-patent and generic drugs or reliable generic manufacturers for out of patent drugs. They are based in Vanuatu which is not exactly a hot house of high tech industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Marja</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900157</link>
		<dc:creator>Marja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and everything to do with protecting people from shady online companies providing unsafe drugs.&quot;

I&#039;m afraid that this kind of protection is putting people in danger. The problem is most widespread and most obvious among trans people, many of whom have trouble accessing and affording good medical care. Since the unemployment rate among trans womyn is at least twice a high and may be several times as high as the unemployment rate for the rest of the population, and since most insurance companies, most doctors, and many pharmacists won&#039;t do trans-related care, it can be difficult to get the medicine without places like Inhouse.

Hormone replacement therapy is often a matter of life or death. Depriving people of access to hormones can cause, among other things, severe osteoporosis. Since the regular medical system often deprives people of access, other sources are necessary.

It also means that the community vets which pharmacies to trust and which ones to avoid. Shutting down the safe pharmacies, and shutting down any pharmacy before it can get return customers, will just open the door to fly-by-night operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and everything to do with protecting people from shady online companies providing unsafe drugs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that this kind of protection is putting people in danger. The problem is most widespread and most obvious among trans people, many of whom have trouble accessing and affording good medical care. Since the unemployment rate among trans womyn is at least twice a high and may be several times as high as the unemployment rate for the rest of the population, and since most insurance companies, most doctors, and many pharmacists won&#8217;t do trans-related care, it can be difficult to get the medicine without places like Inhouse.</p>
<p>Hormone replacement therapy is often a matter of life or death. Depriving people of access to hormones can cause, among other things, severe osteoporosis. Since the regular medical system often deprives people of access, other sources are necessary.</p>
<p>It also means that the community vets which pharmacies to trust and which ones to avoid. Shutting down the safe pharmacies, and shutting down any pharmacy before it can get return customers, will just open the door to fly-by-night operations.</p>
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		<title>By: vinegartom</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900414</link>
		<dc:creator>vinegartom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is me moving somewhere else. Apparently my country is more corporate property than it is mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is me moving somewhere else. Apparently my country is more corporate property than it is mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I import the medicine that I use to control my mental illness.  I have grown accustomed to being sane and rational.

Being uninsured, I&#039;d have to pay for monthly doctor visits, and 30-day prescriptions, and the meds, all out-of-pocket.

One month supply of my meds, generic, here in the U.S.: $390
One year supply of my meds, brand name, imported: $380

I guess I will hurry up and buy another year&#039;s supply, or perhaps to lat until 2014.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I import the medicine that I use to control my mental illness.  I have grown accustomed to being sane and rational.</p>
<p>Being uninsured, I&#8217;d have to pay for monthly doctor visits, and 30-day prescriptions, and the meds, all out-of-pocket.</p>
<p>One month supply of my meds, generic, here in the U.S.: $390<br />
One year supply of my meds, brand name, imported: $380</p>
<p>I guess I will hurry up and buy another year&#8217;s supply, or perhaps to lat until 2014.</p>
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		<title>By: thequickbrownfox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900434</link>
		<dc:creator>thequickbrownfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell you what, I&#039;m not really into Fakebook or IM stuff, but if you need some meds just hook up with someone you trust in Australia and they will go the doctor, get a script and buy your meds for $5.40(AU) and send them over.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you what, I&#8217;m not really into Fakebook or IM stuff, but if you need some meds just hook up with someone you trust in Australia and they will go the doctor, get a script and buy your meds for $5.40(AU) and send them over.</p>
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		<title>By: humanresource</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900457</link>
		<dc:creator>humanresource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Any way that the ruling class can extract money from the working class, it will be done.&quot;
No - Americans always seem to act as if there is no stopping the copmbined bastardry of the ruling 1% and their pets in politics.
But every other developed nation claws back enough power and profit from that class to ensure a decent basic level of healthcare for all.
As with many things, what Americans treat as universal and inevitable is a situation that is both local and mutable. Please stop exporting your pessimism about the power of the public; try importing some optimism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Any way that the ruling class can extract money from the working class, it will be done.&#8221;<br />
No &#8211; Americans always seem to act as if there is no stopping the copmbined bastardry of the ruling 1% and their pets in politics.<br />
But every other developed nation claws back enough power and profit from that class to ensure a decent basic level of healthcare for all.<br />
As with many things, what Americans treat as universal and inevitable is a situation that is both local and mutable. Please stop exporting your pessimism about the power of the public; try importing some optimism.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900720</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m another (TS person) that this is going to screw over and quite seriously, too, as I was just about to place another order on androgen blockers that I am running low on. Adequate employment is already very difficult to find for Trans folk, let alone one with excellent insurance too.

I have been ordering from Inhouse for years with NO problems. These are the same meds I was getting when I had insurance (and a prescription) at FAR LESS COST. Inhouse doesn&#039;t supply addictive narcotics, counterfeits, or any crap that these shills for Big Pharma scream about. All my meds came from big pharmaceuticals in Germany or New Zealand nullifying the claims of meds coming from sketchy 3rd world countries. Also, that protecting US research costs and all that? BS, all of my meds have been around for many years and long since out of patent.

I love the double talk from corporations and conservatives of &quot;the free market&quot; and their offshoring-that is the corporations can, but the people can&#039;t. 

Between this, our total sell out on the health care debacle, and the probably right wing wins in the next elections courtesy of a backlash against Obama et al., I&#039;m done...outta here, tired of being shit on by the puppet masters. Off to a country that actually protects and cares about THE PEOPLE and not corporate profits and the rich. Off to a country where the people aren&#039;t total drones that just keep taking the punishment the power elite bestows upon them.

Also, I just posted separately on how I have computer skills and would go back into the Army (because of my aforementioned lack of health insurance) if it weren&#039;t for DADT. Yet another reason I just don&#039;t feel very welcomed by the USA anymore. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another (TS person) that this is going to screw over and quite seriously, too, as I was just about to place another order on androgen blockers that I am running low on. Adequate employment is already very difficult to find for Trans folk, let alone one with excellent insurance too.</p>
<p>I have been ordering from Inhouse for years with NO problems. These are the same meds I was getting when I had insurance (and a prescription) at FAR LESS COST. Inhouse doesn&#8217;t supply addictive narcotics, counterfeits, or any crap that these shills for Big Pharma scream about. All my meds came from big pharmaceuticals in Germany or New Zealand nullifying the claims of meds coming from sketchy 3rd world countries. Also, that protecting US research costs and all that? BS, all of my meds have been around for many years and long since out of patent.</p>
<p>I love the double talk from corporations and conservatives of &#8220;the free market&#8221; and their offshoring-that is the corporations can, but the people can&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Between this, our total sell out on the health care debacle, and the probably right wing wins in the next elections courtesy of a backlash against Obama et al., I&#8217;m done&#8230;outta here, tired of being shit on by the puppet masters. Off to a country that actually protects and cares about THE PEOPLE and not corporate profits and the rich. Off to a country where the people aren&#8217;t total drones that just keep taking the punishment the power elite bestows upon them.</p>
<p>Also, I just posted separately on how I have computer skills and would go back into the Army (because of my aforementioned lack of health insurance) if it weren&#8217;t for DADT. Yet another reason I just don&#8217;t feel very welcomed by the USA anymore. </p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devil&#039;s advocacy:

If Americans wanted drug prices kept in line, they&#039;d legislate price caps like the countries being re-imported from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devil&#8217;s advocacy:</p>
<p>If Americans wanted drug prices kept in line, they&#8217;d legislate price caps like the countries being re-imported from.</p>
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		<title>By: MsCongeniality</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsCongeniality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also an InHouse customer of long standing. They supply me with Motilium, a drug that has no hope of FDA approval, but that is the only effective treatment for my gastroparesis. Before my (US-based) doctor prescribed me this drug, I could not eat without pain and other, less pleasant side effects. I have relied on it ever since.

I only wish there was some way of obtaining this legally in the United States. I would be thrilled to be able to buy it from my local pharmacy, but I can&#039;t and now I&#039;m not entirely sure what to do without it short of moving to a liquid or soft foods diet on a semi-permanent basis.

What LegitScript can do for me is sod off and stop interfering with the medication I absolutely rely on to live and eat normally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also an InHouse customer of long standing. They supply me with Motilium, a drug that has no hope of FDA approval, but that is the only effective treatment for my gastroparesis. Before my (US-based) doctor prescribed me this drug, I could not eat without pain and other, less pleasant side effects. I have relied on it ever since.</p>
<p>I only wish there was some way of obtaining this legally in the United States. I would be thrilled to be able to buy it from my local pharmacy, but I can&#8217;t and now I&#8217;m not entirely sure what to do without it short of moving to a liquid or soft foods diet on a semi-permanent basis.</p>
<p>What LegitScript can do for me is sod off and stop interfering with the medication I absolutely rely on to live and eat normally.</p>
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		<title>By: kattw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900233</link>
		<dc:creator>kattw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...  when a country mandates specific prices, that&#039;s sort of a way of bypassing patent rights.  I mean, the whole point of a patent is that the owner gets to control the market.  If you patent a hammer, you can sell it for $200...  people might not BUY it, but you can do what you want till it expires.

As for mandating prices in the US, again...  if prices get too low, research costs never get made back.  And if that happens, drugs stop getting researched.  It&#039;s foolish to request the first part happen without thinking about the consequences of the second.  Right now, pharma counts on the US to make back most of its money.  Which is, frankly, decidedly unfair.  But with Canada, and India, and most places, restricting prices, or bypassing patent altogether and letting other companies make the stuff, where else is the capital going to come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;  when a country mandates specific prices, that&#8217;s sort of a way of bypassing patent rights.  I mean, the whole point of a patent is that the owner gets to control the market.  If you patent a hammer, you can sell it for $200&#8230;  people might not BUY it, but you can do what you want till it expires.</p>
<p>As for mandating prices in the US, again&#8230;  if prices get too low, research costs never get made back.  And if that happens, drugs stop getting researched.  It&#8217;s foolish to request the first part happen without thinking about the consequences of the second.  Right now, pharma counts on the US to make back most of its money.  Which is, frankly, decidedly unfair.  But with Canada, and India, and most places, restricting prices, or bypassing patent altogether and letting other companies make the stuff, where else is the capital going to come from?</p>
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		<title>By: Eos47</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eos47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My asthma medication costs $375./mo.at the local drug store, $275. copay with my insurance. I can&#039;t afford that, and I&#039;ve gotten kind of accustomed to breathing, so I need it.
I order it through a company in Australia, which gets it from a licensed pharmacy in a number of different places ( came from Vanuatu last time)they do require a prescription. The medication is manufactured in India and costs me $186.00 for a three month supply. My doctor approves.
Needless to say I would be ----ed if I could not import from overseas. I would not order from a company that advertises via spam and distributes without a prescription. There is a site called PharmacyChecker.com that rates and gives reviews of overseas pharmacies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My asthma medication costs $375./mo.at the local drug store, $275. copay with my insurance. I can&#8217;t afford that, and I&#8217;ve gotten kind of accustomed to breathing, so I need it.<br />
I order it through a company in Australia, which gets it from a licensed pharmacy in a number of different places ( came from Vanuatu last time)they do require a prescription. The medication is manufactured in India and costs me $186.00 for a three month supply. My doctor approves.<br />
Needless to say I would be &#8212;-ed if I could not import from overseas. I would not order from a company that advertises via spam and distributes without a prescription. There is a site called PharmacyChecker.com that rates and gives reviews of overseas pharmacies.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-901288</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Chinese baby formula with plastic &amp; lead dust that kills people is just a cost of business we have to live with but drugs made in the US and shipped to Canada and then back all without ever being opened are too dangerous?

I&#039;d be happy to outsource my entire government to Canada and sell our Congress to forced labor camps in China.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Chinese baby formula with plastic &#038; lead dust that kills people is just a cost of business we have to live with but drugs made in the US and shipped to Canada and then back all without ever being opened are too dangerous?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to outsource my entire government to Canada and sell our Congress to forced labor camps in China.</p>
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		<title>By: swadeshine</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900020</link>
		<dc:creator>swadeshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related? White House Pressuring Registrars To Block Sites (slashdot) http://goo.gl/YmKq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related? White House Pressuring Registrars To Block Sites (slashdot) <a href="http://goo.gl/YmKq" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/YmKq</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mira</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900535</link>
		<dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the trans people this effects. I have been unemployed for over 5 years, have no medical insurance, and as a result cannot simply afford to get a prescription. This decision will likely cost me my life. I have no expectation that those who aren&#039;t trans to understand the impact this has, both emotionally and physically. There are no equal rights, or equal protections for our class in the US. We are on our own to what we can afford to do ourselves. Much will be lost, time will only tell if anybody cares in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the trans people this effects. I have been unemployed for over 5 years, have no medical insurance, and as a result cannot simply afford to get a prescription. This decision will likely cost me my life. I have no expectation that those who aren&#8217;t trans to understand the impact this has, both emotionally and physically. There are no equal rights, or equal protections for our class in the US. We are on our own to what we can afford to do ourselves. Much will be lost, time will only tell if anybody cares in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inhouse has moved their site now and is still shipping to the USA.
http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inhouse has moved their site now and is still shipping to the USA.<br />
<a href="http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RedMonkey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900024</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true what they say about Canadian drugs - side effects include: mellowing out, respect for legalized gay marriage, and the realization that the most delicious food in the world is bacon dipped in maple syrup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true what they say about Canadian drugs &#8211; side effects include: mellowing out, respect for legalized gay marriage, and the realization that the most delicious food in the world is bacon dipped in maple syrup</p>
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		<title>By: rabeille</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900285</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This documentary on Canada&#039;s W5 does a pretty good job of examining the horrors of drug pricing. In Canada via CIHR (and I imagine the US via NIH it is similar), much of the research is already funded via government grants.
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/WFive/20100326/w5_pills_100326/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This documentary on Canada&#8217;s W5 does a pretty good job of examining the horrors of drug pricing. In Canada via CIHR (and I imagine the US via NIH it is similar), much of the research is already funded via government grants.<br />
<a href="http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/WFive/20100326/w5_pills_100326/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/WFive/20100326/w5_pills_100326/</a></p>
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		<title>By: inkadinka12</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900032</link>
		<dc:creator>inkadinka12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While LegitScript might be a sleazy company, is their claim that InHousePharmacy.com sells prescription medication without a prescription correct?   

Here&#039;s where they make that claim: http://www.legitscript.com/blog/143
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While LegitScript might be a sleazy company, is their claim that InHousePharmacy.com sells prescription medication without a prescription correct?   </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where they make that claim: <a href="http://www.legitscript.com/blog/143" rel="nofollow">http://www.legitscript.com/blog/143</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900033</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When they talk of &quot;rogue&quot; pharmacies, what they mean to say is that many online sites that appear in so much spam sell drugs made in India or other places that are not made properly (too strong or weak), if they are not outright fakes.  Additionally criminals that &lt;a href=&quot;http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&amp;id=7332792&quot;&gt;rob drug warehouses&lt;/a&gt; or steal large truck rigs or cargo containers that contain whole shipments of drugs launder these drugs through networks which are purely organized crime.  Stealing drugs from warehouses and truck shipments can make BIG money for thieves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they talk of &#8220;rogue&#8221; pharmacies, what they mean to say is that many online sites that appear in so much spam sell drugs made in India or other places that are not made properly (too strong or weak), if they are not outright fakes.  Additionally criminals that <a href="http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&#038;id=7332792">rob drug warehouses</a> or steal large truck rigs or cargo containers that contain whole shipments of drugs launder these drugs through networks which are purely organized crime.  Stealing drugs from warehouses and truck shipments can make BIG money for thieves.</p>
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		<title>By: sdmikev</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900035</link>
		<dc:creator>sdmikev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any way that the ruling class can extract money from the working class, it will be done.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any way that the ruling class can extract money from the working class, it will be done.  </p>
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		<title>By: Daedalus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900036</link>
		<dc:creator>Daedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reason To Move To Canada #652. 

If I have to expat in 2012 after Sarah Palin gets elected, Canada is looking pretty appealing. Alternatives include Iceland and India. We Shall See.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reason To Move To Canada #652. </p>
<p>If I have to expat in 2012 after Sarah Palin gets elected, Canada is looking pretty appealing. Alternatives include Iceland and India. We Shall See.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSteinberg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-902365</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, people will die. But LegitScript and the US drug companies will protect their ability to get the highest prices in the world, and to hell with the uninsured.

There is also another issue here.

If one man or one company can determine who will be blackballed from the Internet, there is a fundamental question of free speech.

From the outset, most of the world suspected that ICANN was under the thumb of the US government. It turns out that is close to the truth.

In the interest of full disclosure, I point out that John Horton of LegitScript.com has told me he will sue me for defamation. 

My article and his reply can be found at: http://www.bluemaumau.org/white_house_threatens_future_internet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people will die. But LegitScript and the US drug companies will protect their ability to get the highest prices in the world, and to hell with the uninsured.</p>
<p>There is also another issue here.</p>
<p>If one man or one company can determine who will be blackballed from the Internet, there is a fundamental question of free speech.</p>
<p>From the outset, most of the world suspected that ICANN was under the thumb of the US government. It turns out that is close to the truth.</p>
<p>In the interest of full disclosure, I point out that John Horton of LegitScript.com has told me he will sue me for defamation. </p>
<p>My article and his reply can be found at: <a href="http://www.bluemaumau.org/white_house_threatens_future_internet" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluemaumau.org/white_house_threatens_future_internet</a></p>
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		<title>By: Church</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900072</link>
		<dc:creator>Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that only manufacturers get to offshore their suppliers?</description>
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		<title>By: kattw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/01/pharmacist-affiliate.html#comment-900075</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  On the one hand, what people often forget (or conveniently ignore) is that most new medication is developed in the US.  And while some (a lot...) of it is just slight modifications, and not even always improvements, over previous treatments, much of it is also incredibly important to maintaining the modern way of life.

Now, it&#039;s REALLY expensive to develop a drug.  Do drug companies make absurdly large profits?  Yes, they do.  Could they sell drugs cheaper?  Maybe, it&#039;s always hit and miss, some drugs never pay back the research investment.  Could drug companies sell drugs at Canadian, or Indian, prices, and still stay open and doing research?  No, absolutely not.  At least, not until the government starts funding clinical trials.

Now, unlike almost any other invention, a drug company &#039;wastes&#039; upwards of 25-50% of its patent time in the clinical trial phase, where it can&#039;t sell compounds to the public.  So any given compound is only under patent for about 2/3 the time that any OTHER invention would get sole sales rights.  And since any useful drug WILL get picked up by a generics firm the instant it comes off patent, the companies have to make back the research investment (a bit over 8 billion, on average) in a reduced number of years.  Hence: pills are expensive.

This really is different than, say, the IP debate, where an artist records something once on a piece of equipment bought a decade ago, then prints 10 cent CDs and sells them for 20 bucks, and gets offended when people dare to lend the CDs to one another.  Drug discovery is immensely expensive, and if we want drugs to keep getting made, and for progress to be made fighting cancer, alsheimers, etc., we kinda need to pony up the funds.  It&#039;s very unfortunate for those priced out of the market.  But they actually are putting future advances at risk by keeping these internet companies afloat.

Of course, on the other hand, if the choice is buying a pill online, or not buying it at all, it&#039;s not like the company is actually losing money when somebody gets it from a different source.  Sort of like how downloading an MP3 when you had no intention of ever, ever purchasing a CD doesn&#039;t ACTUALLY cost the record industry a dime.  But anyways.  It&#039;s in pharma&#039;s best interest to shut down internet sites because of people who CAN afford local rates.  Unfortunately, a lot of folks who aren&#039;t in that category get caught up in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  On the one hand, what people often forget (or conveniently ignore) is that most new medication is developed in the US.  And while some (a lot&#8230;) of it is just slight modifications, and not even always improvements, over previous treatments, much of it is also incredibly important to maintaining the modern way of life.</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s REALLY expensive to develop a drug.  Do drug companies make absurdly large profits?  Yes, they do.  Could they sell drugs cheaper?  Maybe, it&#8217;s always hit and miss, some drugs never pay back the research investment.  Could drug companies sell drugs at Canadian, or Indian, prices, and still stay open and doing research?  No, absolutely not.  At least, not until the government starts funding clinical trials.</p>
<p>Now, unlike almost any other invention, a drug company &#8216;wastes&#8217; upwards of 25-50% of its patent time in the clinical trial phase, where it can&#8217;t sell compounds to the public.  So any given compound is only under patent for about 2/3 the time that any OTHER invention would get sole sales rights.  And since any useful drug WILL get picked up by a generics firm the instant it comes off patent, the companies have to make back the research investment (a bit over 8 billion, on average) in a reduced number of years.  Hence: pills are expensive.</p>
<p>This really is different than, say, the IP debate, where an artist records something once on a piece of equipment bought a decade ago, then prints 10 cent CDs and sells them for 20 bucks, and gets offended when people dare to lend the CDs to one another.  Drug discovery is immensely expensive, and if we want drugs to keep getting made, and for progress to be made fighting cancer, alsheimers, etc., we kinda need to pony up the funds.  It&#8217;s very unfortunate for those priced out of the market.  But they actually are putting future advances at risk by keeping these internet companies afloat.</p>
<p>Of course, on the other hand, if the choice is buying a pill online, or not buying it at all, it&#8217;s not like the company is actually losing money when somebody gets it from a different source.  Sort of like how downloading an MP3 when you had no intention of ever, ever purchasing a CD doesn&#8217;t ACTUALLY cost the record industry a dime.  But anyways.  It&#8217;s in pharma&#8217;s best interest to shut down internet sites because of people who CAN afford local rates.  Unfortunately, a lot of folks who aren&#8217;t in that category get caught up in the process.</p>
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