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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile sneaks &quot;rootkit&quot; into G2 phones - reinstalls locked-down OS after&#160;jailbreaking</title>
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		<title>By: brianary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903939</link>
		<dc:creator>brianary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there always an alternative?</description>
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		<title>By: Charlotte Corday</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903944</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlotte Corday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The alternative may involve occasionally saying &quot;no&quot; to that part of your brain which keeps exclaiming &quot;Oh, Look!  New!  Shiny, shiny!&quot;

Sometimes you may have to say no for quite a while.  I manage to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The alternative may involve occasionally saying &#8220;no&#8221; to that part of your brain which keeps exclaiming &#8220;Oh, Look!  New!  Shiny, shiny!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes you may have to say no for quite a while.  I manage to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: brianary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903958</link>
		<dc:creator>brianary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve owned three mobile phones in my life, only the latest is a smartphone. I don&#039;t jump at &quot;shiny&quot;.

It&#039;s great that you&#039;re in a market or situation with choice. Do you believe that this is universally true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve owned three mobile phones in my life, only the latest is a smartphone. I don&#8217;t jump at &#8220;shiny&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that you&#8217;re in a market or situation with choice. Do you believe that this is universally true?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-904215</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up next... Calvin Klein creates clothing that is unalterable and will repel any accessories of an unapproved color or style placed anywhere near it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up next&#8230; Calvin Klein creates clothing that is unalterable and will repel any accessories of an unapproved color or style placed anywhere near it.</p>
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		<title>By: igzabier</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903711</link>
		<dc:creator>igzabier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get that Apple feeling, foolish, self-neutering makes the world sterile!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get that Apple feeling, foolish, self-neutering makes the world sterile!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Mur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903967</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Mur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Charlotte 100%, anyway... something from the Xda developers will comes up to sort it out the problem,..however... Kerry you&#039;re wrong my friend,Do you like the Apple policy? good for you!, I think you are with the 2% of iPhone owners that are happy with Steve job&#039;s marketing madness,a part of that!... what&#039;s is wrong with the Android market? if you use your brain nothing is going happen to your device because you can choose what you want to install on your handset, and don&#039;t tell me please that for the iPhone you cannot find stupid applications on the market?!it&#039;s full of it!! I&#039;m an Android myself with Htc Hero.. white 3UK rooted and an Htc Desire no-rooted for different reasons,  believe me both of them have more then 120 applications, they are both fast with no problems whatsoever in terms ..like you said of &#039;&#039; usability, stability and so on, they are simply perfect...they are open source.Kerry We don&#039;t like limitations, we like elegance too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Charlotte 100%, anyway&#8230; something from the Xda developers will comes up to sort it out the problem,..however&#8230; Kerry you&#8217;re wrong my friend,Do you like the Apple policy? good for you!, I think you are with the 2% of iPhone owners that are happy with Steve job&#8217;s marketing madness,a part of that!&#8230; what&#8217;s is wrong with the Android market? if you use your brain nothing is going happen to your device because you can choose what you want to install on your handset, and don&#8217;t tell me please that for the iPhone you cannot find stupid applications on the market?!it&#8217;s full of it!! I&#8217;m an Android myself with Htc Hero.. white 3UK rooted and an Htc Desire no-rooted for different reasons,  believe me both of them have more then 120 applications, they are both fast with no problems whatsoever in terms ..like you said of &#8221; usability, stability and so on, they are simply perfect&#8230;they are open source.Kerry We don&#8217;t like limitations, we like elegance too.</p>
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		<title>By: techdeviant</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903968</link>
		<dc:creator>techdeviant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt you will have a lock down free phone from Verizon either. 

All in all I like the G2, and at least at this point, I don&#039;t see the need to root it. If the day comes when I need to do that, I&#039;m sure someone will have found a solution to the problem anyway. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt you will have a lock down free phone from Verizon either. </p>
<p>All in all I like the G2, and at least at this point, I don&#8217;t see the need to root it. If the day comes when I need to do that, I&#8217;m sure someone will have found a solution to the problem anyway. </p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte Corday</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903971</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlotte Corday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said upthread, I have the cheapest plan I could get from Virgin Mobile ($20 a month, $15 for the phone).

I have data and text switched off, it&#039;s voice only.  

Up until last year, I had a Motorola flip phone which I originally got in 2003: again, voice only.

So my choice, where all the new, shiny smartphone plans come with data caps and jailed phones, is to opt out.  

If enough other people did so, the problem would eventually solve itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said upthread, I have the cheapest plan I could get from Virgin Mobile ($20 a month, $15 for the phone).</p>
<p>I have data and text switched off, it&#8217;s voice only.  </p>
<p>Up until last year, I had a Motorola flip phone which I originally got in 2003: again, voice only.</p>
<p>So my choice, where all the new, shiny smartphone plans come with data caps and jailed phones, is to opt out.  </p>
<p>If enough other people did so, the problem would eventually solve itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903719</link>
		<dc:creator>Xenu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An open OS doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s inseparable from the hardware.</description>
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		<title>By: ultranaut</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903975</link>
		<dc:creator>ultranaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a rootkit in the strict since of the word but I am still really pissed off about it. It&#039;s not actually a bad feature, except that it is being forced on the user. I&#039;m sure it won&#039;t be long before someone figures out how to hax0r it, but it&#039;s bullshit anyone has to waste time figuring that out. The G2 was supposed to be the heir to the original &quot;googlephone&quot;, the G1. I absolutely loved my G1, it&#039;s only flaw was that it was slow and incapable of surviving as laundry. I am pretty happy with my G2, but it is not living up to the marketing. It was supposed to come with vanilla Android, instead it comes with TMO shit embedded in an OS that is forced on the user. As of now you can&#039;t run vanilla Android on it. It also comes with 2gigs internal memory, on paper it is supposed to have 4gigs. 
My biggest complaint though: There&#039;s no fucking number row on the keyboard!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a rootkit in the strict since of the word but I am still really pissed off about it. It&#8217;s not actually a bad feature, except that it is being forced on the user. I&#8217;m sure it won&#8217;t be long before someone figures out how to hax0r it, but it&#8217;s bullshit anyone has to waste time figuring that out. The G2 was supposed to be the heir to the original &#8220;googlephone&#8221;, the G1. I absolutely loved my G1, it&#8217;s only flaw was that it was slow and incapable of surviving as laundry. I am pretty happy with my G2, but it is not living up to the marketing. It was supposed to come with vanilla Android, instead it comes with TMO shit embedded in an OS that is forced on the user. As of now you can&#8217;t run vanilla Android on it. It also comes with 2gigs internal memory, on paper it is supposed to have 4gigs.<br />
My biggest complaint though: There&#8217;s no fucking number row on the keyboard!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903722</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? 

what is the reason they do this - why go out of your way to reduce your customers experience, and in a sly way too...can anyone tell me?

also is this google or t-mobile doing this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? </p>
<p>what is the reason they do this &#8211; why go out of your way to reduce your customers experience, and in a sly way too&#8230;can anyone tell me?</p>
<p>also is this google or t-mobile doing this?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903729</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go to actual XDA forums there is no mention of any rootkit. They are disregarding this article as BS. Article is misinformed and doesn&#039;t have credible sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to actual XDA forums there is no mention of any rootkit. They are disregarding this article as BS. Article is misinformed and doesn&#8217;t have credible sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903990</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hack that might solve this.  A legal hack, not a technical hack.

I bought a T-Mobile myTouch, and found it to be loaded with spyware, including about 50 apps, which it would not let me uninstall.  These apps came with permissions to read call history, files, text messages, contacts, basically everything.  These are apps from companies I don&#039;t trust, like Facebook.  Oh and I can&#039;t uninstall them.

So here&#039;s my idea.

These apps are all copyright and all come with End User License Agreements (EULAs).

What I will do is look at the EULAs (they came with the phone) and see who I am licensing the software from.  Then send a letter:

&quot;Dear Sir:

I no longer agree with the terms in the EULA for _____ which came my purchase of a T-Mobile myTouch on November 15, 2010.  I propose the following replacement EULA:

Licensor (&quot;Facebook Inc&quot;) grants licensee (&quot;My name&quot;) a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to redistribute, decompile, modify, sell, make available for download, incorporate into other products or systems, and / or sublicense, the (name of app).  Further, licensor grants licensee a perpetual royalty-free license to use and sublicense any of Licensor&#039;s patents which may be used in the application.

If you disagree with this new EULA, respond in writing within 30 days.  Otherwise, non-response indicates agreement.  In any case, I exercise the option in the EULA to exit the agreement, and it indicates that I must return or destroy all copies of the software.&quot;

That&#039;s my idea.  I need to send them a letter like that.  I notice that after I make a call, the 3G connection icon lights up, indicating that some app is uploading my call data, and I have no way to block it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hack that might solve this.  A legal hack, not a technical hack.</p>
<p>I bought a T-Mobile myTouch, and found it to be loaded with spyware, including about 50 apps, which it would not let me uninstall.  These apps came with permissions to read call history, files, text messages, contacts, basically everything.  These are apps from companies I don&#8217;t trust, like Facebook.  Oh and I can&#8217;t uninstall them.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s my idea.</p>
<p>These apps are all copyright and all come with End User License Agreements (EULAs).</p>
<p>What I will do is look at the EULAs (they came with the phone) and see who I am licensing the software from.  Then send a letter:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Sir:</p>
<p>I no longer agree with the terms in the EULA for _____ which came my purchase of a T-Mobile myTouch on November 15, 2010.  I propose the following replacement EULA:</p>
<p>Licensor (&#8220;Facebook Inc&#8221;) grants licensee (&#8220;My name&#8221;) a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to redistribute, decompile, modify, sell, make available for download, incorporate into other products or systems, and / or sublicense, the (name of app).  Further, licensor grants licensee a perpetual royalty-free license to use and sublicense any of Licensor&#8217;s patents which may be used in the application.</p>
<p>If you disagree with this new EULA, respond in writing within 30 days.  Otherwise, non-response indicates agreement.  In any case, I exercise the option in the EULA to exit the agreement, and it indicates that I must return or destroy all copies of the software.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my idea.  I need to send them a letter like that.  I notice that after I make a call, the 3G connection icon lights up, indicating that some app is uploading my call data, and I have no way to block it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903737</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The behaviour is probably valid, but it&#039;s not really a rootkit in the strictest sense of the word. There&#039;s a valid argument about owning your device implying that you have control over the software that the device runs, and hardware manufacturers taking that ownership away from you with respect to software, but this isn&#039;t the way to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The behaviour is probably valid, but it&#8217;s not really a rootkit in the strictest sense of the word. There&#8217;s a valid argument about owning your device implying that you have control over the software that the device runs, and hardware manufacturers taking that ownership away from you with respect to software, but this isn&#8217;t the way to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Stair</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903995</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Stair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, you CAN tether on a G2, using PdaNet (no rooting needed).</description>
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		<title>By: Dewi Morgan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903740</link>
		<dc:creator>Dewi Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I&#039;m gonna cry bullshit on this one, at least until there&#039;s any kind of credible evidence at all. the links they provide at the end of their article are completely unrelated to the issue they describe.

Sounds like Apple-sourced FUD to me.

But it might just be that the concept of a &quot;hardware rootkit&quot; is... just too wrong-headed to be real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;m gonna cry bullshit on this one, at least until there&#8217;s any kind of credible evidence at all. the links they provide at the end of their article are completely unrelated to the issue they describe.</p>
<p>Sounds like Apple-sourced FUD to me.</p>
<p>But it might just be that the concept of a &#8220;hardware rootkit&#8221; is&#8230; just too wrong-headed to be real.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903749</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a G2 owner, its a bit annoying I can&#039;t scrape some of the pack-in apps off my device. 

On the flipside of this argument, hopefully this will help keep new users like me from bricking the phone as we tear into the (amazingly unmoderated) app market. 

Its only been on sale a couple of days, they&#039;ll crack it eventually.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a G2 owner, its a bit annoying I can&#8217;t scrape some of the pack-in apps off my device. </p>
<p>On the flipside of this argument, hopefully this will help keep new users like me from bricking the phone as we tear into the (amazingly unmoderated) app market. </p>
<p>Its only been on sale a couple of days, they&#8217;ll crack it eventually.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903751</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m betting this is nothing more than a network-activated Factory Restore to wipe any sensitive data off of stolen phones. 

It&#039;s a useful safety feature if so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m betting this is nothing more than a network-activated Factory Restore to wipe any sensitive data off of stolen phones. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a useful safety feature if so.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903752</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a look at the forum you can read about it.

Basically whenever the device is rebooted all the files in the /system folder are overwritten by some hardware. The folder is restored to some previous state and the phone is locked down again.

So you can jailbeak the device but once you reboot it it will be locked down.


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794053</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a look at the forum you can read about it.</p>
<p>Basically whenever the device is rebooted all the files in the /system folder are overwritten by some hardware. The folder is restored to some previous state and the phone is locked down again.</p>
<p>So you can jailbeak the device but once you reboot it it will be locked down.</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794053" rel="nofollow">http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794053</a></p>
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		<title>By: brianary</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-904009</link>
		<dc:creator>brianary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s certainly a market utopian perspective.

Sadly, the reality is that the market is (obviously) not rational. In fact, cannot be, as long as the available options are stacked.

I&#039;ll certainly buy an unlimited data, non-jailed, stock Android, reasonably priced package with excellent coverage and top of the line hardware as soon as it comes along. Especially if it comes packaged with unicorns!

But waiting for that seems overly optimistic (even without the unicorns). Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good: In my case, I have a smartphone with unlimited data and a reasonable rate, but a slowish locked phone with &quot;Touchwiz&quot;.

Waiting for the perfect concordance of features is indistinguishable from indifference to the market. Choosing the best *available* option has more influence.

I hope you are able to wait it out and get the best deal, though. Buying technology is also like getting a haircut: the longer you wait, the more you get for your money. ;)

(My first two phones were V-Mo, as well. The choice of drug dealers and cheapskates!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s certainly a market utopian perspective.</p>
<p>Sadly, the reality is that the market is (obviously) not rational. In fact, cannot be, as long as the available options are stacked.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly buy an unlimited data, non-jailed, stock Android, reasonably priced package with excellent coverage and top of the line hardware as soon as it comes along. Especially if it comes packaged with unicorns!</p>
<p>But waiting for that seems overly optimistic (even without the unicorns). Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good: In my case, I have a smartphone with unlimited data and a reasonable rate, but a slowish locked phone with &#8220;Touchwiz&#8221;.</p>
<p>Waiting for the perfect concordance of features is indistinguishable from indifference to the market. Choosing the best *available* option has more influence.</p>
<p>I hope you are able to wait it out and get the best deal, though. Buying technology is also like getting a haircut: the longer you wait, the more you get for your money. ;)</p>
<p>(My first two phones were V-Mo, as well. The choice of drug dealers and cheapskates!)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Betteridge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903756</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Betteridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Android Robots will be incoming to claim this couldn&#039;t possibly be true in three... twoo.... shit they beat me to it.

The fact is that if this story was about iPhone, there would by now be 300 comments claiming this was typical Apple evul from a company that wants to control the universe. NO ONE would be saying they don&#039;t believe it &quot;until there&#039;s any kind of credible evidence&quot;. 

That&#039;s not to say the story is correct - but I hope that the next time some bullshit story comes out about, say, Apple ordering cops to beat up protestors or inventing some super-DRM which will be applied to everything you own, you all stop and think for a minute instead of rushing to your Twitter-barracades. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Android Robots will be incoming to claim this couldn&#8217;t possibly be true in three&#8230; twoo&#8230;. shit they beat me to it.</p>
<p>The fact is that if this story was about iPhone, there would by now be 300 comments claiming this was typical Apple evul from a company that wants to control the universe. NO ONE would be saying they don&#8217;t believe it &#8220;until there&#8217;s any kind of credible evidence&#8221;. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say the story is correct &#8211; but I hope that the next time some bullshit story comes out about, say, Apple ordering cops to beat up protestors or inventing some super-DRM which will be applied to everything you own, you all stop and think for a minute instead of rushing to your Twitter-barracades. </p>
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		<title>By: Ian Betteridge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903762</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Betteridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So here&#039;s what I&#039;ve heard.

1. This isn&#039;t &quot;a rootkit&quot;. 
2. What it is is HTC (who make the phone) disabling writes to /system.
3. Thus, it frustrates attempts to get root.

It&#039;s annoying, and I have no idea why they&#039;ve done it. 

But it demonstrates something that I&#039;ve been saying for a long time - in a year or two, you aren&#039;t going to be able to buy an Android phone that isn&#039;t as locked-down as an iPhone (ie you have to jump through jailbreaking-style hoops to get access to it). The era of &quot;open Android&quot; is coming to a close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
<p>1. This isn&#8217;t &#8220;a rootkit&#8221;.<br />
2. What it is is HTC (who make the phone) disabling writes to /system.<br />
3. Thus, it frustrates attempts to get root.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s annoying, and I have no idea why they&#8217;ve done it. </p>
<p>But it demonstrates something that I&#8217;ve been saying for a long time &#8211; in a year or two, you aren&#8217;t going to be able to buy an Android phone that isn&#8217;t as locked-down as an iPhone (ie you have to jump through jailbreaking-style hoops to get access to it). The era of &#8220;open Android&#8221; is coming to a close.</p>
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		<title>By: steve rimjobs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903766</link>
		<dc:creator>steve rimjobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The openness and flexibility of Android sure is a double edged sword.  Lucky me, I live a place where carriers never had a big habit of neutering or locking down phones much.  But I understand you can avoid these problems by getting neutral handsets like say the Nexus One?

Anyway, I &lt;3 Android.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The openness and flexibility of Android sure is a double edged sword.  Lucky me, I live a place where carriers never had a big habit of neutering or locking down phones much.  But I understand you can avoid these problems by getting neutral handsets like say the Nexus One?</p>
<p>Anyway, I &lt;3 Android.</p>
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		<title>By: Volker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903768</link>
		<dc:creator>Volker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats the price you pay for the &quot;free&quot; handset from your carrier. Of course, the anticompetitive cell phone industry in the USA doesn&#039;t leave you much of a choice. There will always be better hardware with no preinstalled Bing (looking at you, Verizon) crap if you buy an OEM Android.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats the price you pay for the &#8220;free&#8221; handset from your carrier. Of course, the anticompetitive cell phone industry in the USA doesn&#8217;t leave you much of a choice. There will always be better hardware with no preinstalled Bing (looking at you, Verizon) crap if you buy an OEM Android.</p>
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		<title>By: JayConverse</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903776</link>
		<dc:creator>JayConverse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just a @#$@# phone.  Don&#039;t buy it if you don&#039;t like it.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903783</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, it&#039;s a phone, not a computer.

I also can&#039;t change the software on my TV or in my satnav, why would I care that I can&#039;t change it in my phone?  If you don&#039;t like the OS then don&#039;t buy it.

But then I&#039;ve also never felt the need to jailbreak an iPhone.  I&#039;m paying for the convenience of not having to deal with the OS and the UX when I buy the phone, I&#039;d rather not take that responsibility on myself thanks - and &#039;freedom&#039; aside, this isn&#039;t a service, it&#039;s a product; it&#039;s not always up to you how you use it.

Time is money friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, it&#8217;s a phone, not a computer.</p>
<p>I also can&#8217;t change the software on my TV or in my satnav, why would I care that I can&#8217;t change it in my phone?  If you don&#8217;t like the OS then don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
<p>But then I&#8217;ve also never felt the need to jailbreak an iPhone.  I&#8217;m paying for the convenience of not having to deal with the OS and the UX when I buy the phone, I&#8217;d rather not take that responsibility on myself thanks &#8211; and &#8216;freedom&#8217; aside, this isn&#8217;t a service, it&#8217;s a product; it&#8217;s not always up to you how you use it.</p>
<p>Time is money friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-904039</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this will only prevent a persistent  partial root. kind of like the first unrevoked for the evo that had to be run after every reboot. once nand write access is obtained this won&#039;t be an issue, if it even ever was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this will only prevent a persistent  partial root. kind of like the first unrevoked for the evo that had to be run after every reboot. once nand write access is obtained this won&#8217;t be an issue, if it even ever was.</p>
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		<title>By: flink</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903786</link>
		<dc:creator>flink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really glad I saw this. I&#039;ve been planning to grab one of those puppies.

Now I&#039;m considering just dropping T-Mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really glad I saw this. I&#8217;ve been planning to grab one of those puppies.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m considering just dropping T-Mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903788</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/s noooooooooooooooo. I want this onnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeee. /s
Personally I am moving away from android. I bought the droid as it was a google experience phone. Now that there will never be such thing as this ever again, I have lost interest. Used to be android was unique and different. Aside from whether this story is true or not. It doesn&#039;t matter. I might as well go back to my jail broken iPhone. I guess this means android is wearing big boy pants nowadays since they want to cock block just about every good thing about the phone. Vzw recently started doing this by putting bing on the newer android handsets. They have also been increasing the amount of crap where on their droid phones.  Sigh. For a brief period of time My nerd lust of google and Linux, hacking where at the perfect intersection.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/s noooooooooooooooo. I want this onnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeee. /s<br />
Personally I am moving away from android. I bought the droid as it was a google experience phone. Now that there will never be such thing as this ever again, I have lost interest. Used to be android was unique and different. Aside from whether this story is true or not. It doesn&#8217;t matter. I might as well go back to my jail broken iPhone. I guess this means android is wearing big boy pants nowadays since they want to cock block just about every good thing about the phone. Vzw recently started doing this by putting bing on the newer android handsets. They have also been increasing the amount of crap where on their droid phones.  Sigh. For a brief period of time My nerd lust of google and Linux, hacking where at the perfect intersection.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/05/t-mobile-sneaks-root.html#comment-903796</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit or not, I despise T-Mobile. Horrible experience with them.</description>
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