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		<title>By: Thomas Gokey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906498</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Gokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First a big thank you to Doug for highlighting the project!

A number of commenters have noted that the US is technically a republic. The problem I have with the Texas Board of Education teaching that we are a republic and not a democracy is that this is primarily an effort at &lt;strong&gt;rebranding&lt;/strong&gt; and not really about technical accuracy.

If every student in Texas could write a technical analysis explaining the differences between a republic and a democracy I would be pleased as punch!

The reason they want the US to be called a republic is specifically because they want to promote the idea that in the US we have &quot;republican values.&quot; David Barton, the founder of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wallbuilders.com&quot;&gt;Wallbuilders&lt;/a&gt; and  transparently spells out the motive at work here:

&quot;...we have &#039;republican&#039; values or &#039;republican&#039; process rather than &#039;democratic&#039; values or process.&quot; (See his review of the standards &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tea.state.tx.us/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&amp;ItemID=6172&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; PDF).

What is clear is that this is not motivated by a thorough understanding of civics, rather this is a rebranding effort plain and simple.

They also attempt to rebrand capitalism, which they take to have too many negative associations (I wonder why that would be?), as the &quot;free-enterprise system.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First a big thank you to Doug for highlighting the project!</p>
<p>A number of commenters have noted that the US is technically a republic. The problem I have with the Texas Board of Education teaching that we are a republic and not a democracy is that this is primarily an effort at <strong>rebranding</strong> and not really about technical accuracy.</p>
<p>If every student in Texas could write a technical analysis explaining the differences between a republic and a democracy I would be pleased as punch!</p>
<p>The reason they want the US to be called a republic is specifically because they want to promote the idea that in the US we have &#8220;republican values.&#8221; David Barton, the founder of <a href="http://www.wallbuilders.com">Wallbuilders</a> and  transparently spells out the motive at work here:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;we have &#8216;republican&#8217; values or &#8216;republican&#8217; process rather than &#8216;democratic&#8217; values or process.&#8221; (See his review of the standards <a href="http://www.tea.state.tx.us/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&amp;ItemID=6172">here</a> PDF).</p>
<p>What is clear is that this is not motivated by a thorough understanding of civics, rather this is a rebranding effort plain and simple.</p>
<p>They also attempt to rebrand capitalism, which they take to have too many negative associations (I wonder why that would be?), as the &#8220;free-enterprise system.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chrs</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906249</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously though, introducing a little controversy to a history class might be a legitimate strategy for actually getting kids &lt;i&gt;interested&lt;/i&gt; in what they&#039;re learning.

Texas &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t want you to know this!&lt;/i&gt;  Those hippy liberals &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t want you to know this!&lt;/i&gt;  

Personally, I think the things they&#039;ve added are important.  I just don&#039;t generally trust strong partisans of either side to properly represent why, and that includes me.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously though, introducing a little controversy to a history class might be a legitimate strategy for actually getting kids <i>interested</i> in what they&#8217;re learning.</p>
<p>Texas <i>doesn&#8217;t want you to know this!</i>  Those hippy liberals <i>don&#8217;t want you to know this!</i>  </p>
<p>Personally, I think the things they&#8217;ve added are important.  I just don&#8217;t generally trust strong partisans of either side to properly represent why, and that includes me.  </p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Gokey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906512</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Gokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also like to respond to a number of comments that suggest this project is trying to be a leftist version of the Texas textbooks.

I hope that doesn&#039;t happen. I regard the culture wars as a trap. On the one hand you can&#039;t just ignore this right-wing hijacking of our history. If we ignore it these distortions will remain unchallenged. But as we respond we have to be careful not fall into a kind of mimetic rivalry where we end up with a mirror image of what we are resisting and produce a leftist distortion of history.

I think the way we avoid this trap is to develop a kind of &lt;strong&gt;healthy indifference&lt;/strong&gt; to these right-wing distortions. We must keep our eyes on the prize. If we focus on responsible scholarship there will be more than enough material for conservatives and progressives to work with.

I hope that this project develops elements of great literature. A well written history should provide a kind of Rorschach blot to each student that they have to interpret on their own. There is enough material in our history to work with and end up with solid conservative positions.

A smart young kid who studies history will encounter all kinds of things that frustrate the image she would like to have of her world (and herself). The Texas textbook removes this frustration, it gives the conservative conclusion without the hard work of earning that conclusion.

The problem with many contemporary conservatives is that instead of wresting with these frustrating facts they wave a magic wand (borrowed from Christine O&#039;Donnell no doubt) and get rid of them all together inventing facts from whole cloth to take their place. The problem with the Texas textbook is that they take out the reality principle which resists our own ideals and wishes. Or as Stephen Colbert aptly put it, &quot;reality has a well known liberal bias.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to respond to a number of comments that suggest this project is trying to be a leftist version of the Texas textbooks.</p>
<p>I hope that doesn&#8217;t happen. I regard the culture wars as a trap. On the one hand you can&#8217;t just ignore this right-wing hijacking of our history. If we ignore it these distortions will remain unchallenged. But as we respond we have to be careful not fall into a kind of mimetic rivalry where we end up with a mirror image of what we are resisting and produce a leftist distortion of history.</p>
<p>I think the way we avoid this trap is to develop a kind of <strong>healthy indifference</strong> to these right-wing distortions. We must keep our eyes on the prize. If we focus on responsible scholarship there will be more than enough material for conservatives and progressives to work with.</p>
<p>I hope that this project develops elements of great literature. A well written history should provide a kind of Rorschach blot to each student that they have to interpret on their own. There is enough material in our history to work with and end up with solid conservative positions.</p>
<p>A smart young kid who studies history will encounter all kinds of things that frustrate the image she would like to have of her world (and herself). The Texas textbook removes this frustration, it gives the conservative conclusion without the hard work of earning that conclusion.</p>
<p>The problem with many contemporary conservatives is that instead of wresting with these frustrating facts they wave a magic wand (borrowed from Christine O&#8217;Donnell no doubt) and get rid of them all together inventing facts from whole cloth to take their place. The problem with the Texas textbook is that they take out the reality principle which resists our own ideals and wishes. Or as Stephen Colbert aptly put it, &#8220;reality has a well known liberal bias.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906267</link>
		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give kids copies of A People&#039;s History of the United States, or some of the similar books edited by Zinn.</description>
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		<title>By: Gunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most important thing you can teach kids about history is to examine the source of the interpretation you are being given. </description>
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		<title>By: humanresource</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906530</link>
		<dc:creator>humanresource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If keeping science and civil rights in the curriculum is vital to you, and not just something to whine about in a thread while you are pretending to work, there is only one long-term solution.
Texas Secessionism; hurl that Lone Star off into the firmament.
From the outside, it really looks like most of the great things about America will be eclipsed by those sinister troglodytes given time; hip America  doesn&#039;t seem to have the money, media savvy, strategic focus, energy or sheer-bloodymindedness to combat them. A case in point: one side controls what goes into the actual textbooks; the other responds with a website that gets reported on a popular blog.
Please convince me I don&#039;t know what I am talking about, I&#039;d really prefer to be wrong about all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If keeping science and civil rights in the curriculum is vital to you, and not just something to whine about in a thread while you are pretending to work, there is only one long-term solution.<br />
Texas Secessionism; hurl that Lone Star off into the firmament.<br />
From the outside, it really looks like most of the great things about America will be eclipsed by those sinister troglodytes given time; hip America  doesn&#8217;t seem to have the money, media savvy, strategic focus, energy or sheer-bloodymindedness to combat them. A case in point: one side controls what goes into the actual textbooks; the other responds with a website that gets reported on a popular blog.<br />
Please convince me I don&#8217;t know what I am talking about, I&#8217;d really prefer to be wrong about all this.</p>
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		<title>By: knoxblox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906295</link>
		<dc:creator>knoxblox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand, but still...to eradicate/erase evidence of the beliefs of others kind of seems wrong to me.
Intelligent Design may not be accurate or correct, but then again, how much of any of our past or present knowledge is (like man&#039;s prior - hopefully not again - belief that the world is flat)?

One of my past history teachers put it sort of like this -- the history books are never accurate, no matter how hard they might try to be. It&#039;s our job to discern the truth to the best of our ability and from all information that we can gather, and even then we may not have it right.

Fantasy or not, it&#039;s important information that helps us to understand the people who are presenting it to us a little better. I think it&#039;s more important to be informed about than oblivious to seemingly archaic or uninformed modes of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand, but still&#8230;to eradicate/erase evidence of the beliefs of others kind of seems wrong to me.<br />
Intelligent Design may not be accurate or correct, but then again, how much of any of our past or present knowledge is (like man&#8217;s prior &#8211; hopefully not again &#8211; belief that the world is flat)?</p>
<p>One of my past history teachers put it sort of like this &#8212; the history books are never accurate, no matter how hard they might try to be. It&#8217;s our job to discern the truth to the best of our ability and from all information that we can gather, and even then we may not have it right.</p>
<p>Fantasy or not, it&#8217;s important information that helps us to understand the people who are presenting it to us a little better. I think it&#8217;s more important to be informed about than oblivious to seemingly archaic or uninformed modes of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you will, Conservative Southern Woman, but the picks overdubs are still dreadful!
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is important to mention curriki.org at this point. Why not take this effort and direct it to making an open-source history book which is not biased left or right (at least not unduly so) which could be usable inside or outside of Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is important to mention curriki.org at this point. Why not take this effort and direct it to making an open-source history book which is not biased left or right (at least not unduly so) which could be usable inside or outside of Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906306</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Intelligent Design may not be accurate or correct, but then again, how much of any of our past or present knowledge is (like man&#039;s prior - hopefully not again - belief that the world is flat)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There are completely different degrees of accuracy and correctness. Asimov&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Relativity of Wrong&lt;/i&gt; is a good essay on the subject. Including all sides on issues sounds like a good thing to do, but in practice, a general overview always means restricting your attention to the most important ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Intelligent Design may not be accurate or correct, but then again, how much of any of our past or present knowledge is (like man&#8217;s prior &#8211; hopefully not again &#8211; belief that the world is flat)?</p></blockquote>
<p>There are completely different degrees of accuracy and correctness. Asimov&#8217;s <i>Relativity of Wrong</i> is a good essay on the subject. Including all sides on issues sounds like a good thing to do, but in practice, a general overview always means restricting your attention to the most important ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in a public Canadian school, and there were those of us who were genuinely interested in history, sometimes even frustrated there wasn&#039;t more. Not many, but we did exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a public Canadian school, and there were those of us who were genuinely interested in history, sometimes even frustrated there wasn&#8217;t more. Not many, but we did exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Southern Woman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906597</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Southern Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not a democratic republic, we are a representative republic.  Look it up!  Perhaps that is why the standards need to be changed, to teach the actual facts instead of opinions or propaganda the leftist socialist progressives would have our children believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not a democratic republic, we are a representative republic.  Look it up!  Perhaps that is why the standards need to be changed, to teach the actual facts instead of opinions or propaganda the leftist socialist progressives would have our children believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Southern Woman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906599</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Southern Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: Felton / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906600</link>
		<dc:creator>Felton / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;opinions or propaganda the leftist socialist progressives would have our children believe&lt;/i&gt;

Examples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>opinions or propaganda the leftist socialist progressives would have our children believe</i></p>
<p>Examples?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good to see.

Where I live, Queensland, Australia, they stopped teaching history in schools years ago. Perhaps because Queensland happens to have a rather murky history, with importing of slaves from the Pacific until the 1920s; genocide; racism; plus corruption of the electoral system, suppression of free speech and of the right of assembly around the 1970s - to name a few things. 

At least with the Texas textbook you have something there to start with, a framework around which you can build, something to push against with your wiki. We don&#039;t have that. We don&#039;t have a place to start. And our universities are winding down and even eliminating the humanities, because they are not commercial. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good to see.</p>
<p>Where I live, Queensland, Australia, they stopped teaching history in schools years ago. Perhaps because Queensland happens to have a rather murky history, with importing of slaves from the Pacific until the 1920s; genocide; racism; plus corruption of the electoral system, suppression of free speech and of the right of assembly around the 1970s &#8211; to name a few things. </p>
<p>At least with the Texas textbook you have something there to start with, a framework around which you can build, something to push against with your wiki. We don&#8217;t have that. We don&#8217;t have a place to start. And our universities are winding down and even eliminating the humanities, because they are not commercial. </p>
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		<title>By: normd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906612</link>
		<dc:creator>normd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where should we look it up?</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Tucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;I&gt;A Supplement to the Texas U.S. History Textbook&lt;/I&gt;&quot;

Link Fail. No banana for you to just look at! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>A Supplement to the Texas U.S. History Textbook</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Link Fail. No banana for you to just look at! </p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906368</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I feel like religious people who are so opposed to stem cell research should be able to say a prayer for the fetuses and let them go without holding back the scientific frontier. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

See, that&#039;s a big part of the problem. People don&#039;t understand the difference between an &quot;embryo&quot; (a small cluster of undifferentiated cells, the vast majority of which don&#039;t develop to term even in nature) and a &quot;fetus&quot; (the not-quite-fully-developed babies that pro-life demonstrators put on their protest signs).

Fetuses are not being destroyed for embryonic stem cell research. If allowing an embryo to die is the same thing as an abortion then the big guy upstairs runs the biggest back-alley clinic of them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I feel like religious people who are so opposed to stem cell research should be able to say a prayer for the fetuses and let them go without holding back the scientific frontier. </p></blockquote>
<p>See, that&#8217;s a big part of the problem. People don&#8217;t understand the difference between an &#8220;embryo&#8221; (a small cluster of undifferentiated cells, the vast majority of which don&#8217;t develop to term even in nature) and a &#8220;fetus&#8221; (the not-quite-fully-developed babies that pro-life demonstrators put on their protest signs).</p>
<p>Fetuses are not being destroyed for embryonic stem cell research. If allowing an embryo to die is the same thing as an abortion then the big guy upstairs runs the biggest back-alley clinic of them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
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		<description>Ok, I agree that these changes are exceptionally nutty and not in the best interests of creating well educated people...

but...

The US *is* a republic.  Except for a few small areas of the country and/or for a few local issues this is a representative republic, not a democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I agree that these changes are exceptionally nutty and not in the best interests of creating well educated people&#8230;</p>
<p>but&#8230;</p>
<p>The US *is* a republic.  Except for a few small areas of the country and/or for a few local issues this is a representative republic, not a democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake0748</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake0748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they still have the Texas School Book Depository (or was it Repostitory?) in Dallas?</description>
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		<title>By: HealthStudent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906118</link>
		<dc:creator>HealthStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, we&#039;re not a democracy, but rather a democratic republic.  Well, that&#039;s what my 11th grade history teacher made me memorize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, we&#8217;re not a democracy, but rather a democratic republic.  Well, that&#8217;s what my 11th grade history teacher made me memorize.</p>
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		<title>By: HealthStudent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906120</link>
		<dc:creator>HealthStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy, you beat me to it.  +1 internets for you.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy, you beat me to it.  +1 internets for you.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: LinkTiger</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906125</link>
		<dc:creator>LinkTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the link, which is broken above: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A_Supplement_to_the_Texas_US_History_Textbook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the link, which is broken above: <a href="http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A_Supplement_to_the_Texas_US_History_Textbook" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A_Supplement_to_the_Texas_US_History_Textbook</a></p>
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		<title>By: enkiv2</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906387</link>
		<dc:creator>enkiv2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, it isn&#039;t technically a democracy insomuch as federal issues are not voted on. It is a republic. There are individual cities and towns that have representative democracies for governments (which is to say that while there are elected leaders, there are also referenda in which individuals vote on issues).

This is, of course, totally tangental to the subject at hand. While it happens to be true that the united states is not (and has never been) a democracy, the truth rarely has bearing on this kind of political game-playing. This is an effort to skew what is being taught towards one side of the current political spectrum (and I say current because in a few years the issues will be totally different; keeping these books for much longer is likely to result in the kind of pedagogy you expected from soviet states, with the repetition of outdated and only vaguely related pseudo-marxist catchphrases as the only safe response (the difference being that rather than quoting early 20th century interpretations of a 19th century economist&#039;s ideas, it&#039;ll be quoting early 21st century interpretations of a mid-20th century hack writer)).

While there is no reason to believe that textbooks are likely ever to consist mostly of facts (as the son of a historian, I know that the facts involved in a balanced understanding of even a minor situation are rarely clear enough for a dedicated student to understand after years), we should at least try to keep the lies we teach our children about history balanced and current (or if not current, at least not current to some definable bygone age, like the leisure suit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, it isn&#8217;t technically a democracy insomuch as federal issues are not voted on. It is a republic. There are individual cities and towns that have representative democracies for governments (which is to say that while there are elected leaders, there are also referenda in which individuals vote on issues).</p>
<p>This is, of course, totally tangental to the subject at hand. While it happens to be true that the united states is not (and has never been) a democracy, the truth rarely has bearing on this kind of political game-playing. This is an effort to skew what is being taught towards one side of the current political spectrum (and I say current because in a few years the issues will be totally different; keeping these books for much longer is likely to result in the kind of pedagogy you expected from soviet states, with the repetition of outdated and only vaguely related pseudo-marxist catchphrases as the only safe response (the difference being that rather than quoting early 20th century interpretations of a 19th century economist&#8217;s ideas, it&#8217;ll be quoting early 21st century interpretations of a mid-20th century hack writer)).</p>
<p>While there is no reason to believe that textbooks are likely ever to consist mostly of facts (as the son of a historian, I know that the facts involved in a balanced understanding of even a minor situation are rarely clear enough for a dedicated student to understand after years), we should at least try to keep the lies we teach our children about history balanced and current (or if not current, at least not current to some definable bygone age, like the leisure suit).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906643</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the US is technically a republic&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, this is not a technical subject.

&lt;i&gt;Demokratia&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;res publica&lt;/i&gt; are not technical terms invented by technicians to delineate clearly defined and distinct parts of some kind of Venn diagram.

An electron is a &quot;lepton&quot; and not a &quot;baryon.&quot;  Period.  Note that there is no debate about this.

The United States is/are a &quot;democracy&quot; and/or a &quot;republic,&quot; or both, or neither.  Depending on the point you&#039;re trying to make, or which party you&#039;re trying to recruit for, or which specious argument you heard first, or which specious argument you heard most recently.  So shut up, all of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the US is technically a republic</p></blockquote>
<p>No, this is not a technical subject.</p>
<p><i>Demokratia</i> and <i>res publica</i> are not technical terms invented by technicians to delineate clearly defined and distinct parts of some kind of Venn diagram.</p>
<p>An electron is a &#8220;lepton&#8221; and not a &#8220;baryon.&#8221;  Period.  Note that there is no debate about this.</p>
<p>The United States is/are a &#8220;democracy&#8221; and/or a &#8220;republic,&#8221; or both, or neither.  Depending on the point you&#8217;re trying to make, or which party you&#8217;re trying to recruit for, or which specious argument you heard first, or which specious argument you heard most recently.  So shut up, all of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906139</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. A Secret History for students in Texas. An end-run around the malevolent dinosaurs behind the Texas school book standards. What a great idea -- give the power to the students! 

Thanks, Doug. This made my day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. A Secret History for students in Texas. An end-run around the malevolent dinosaurs behind the Texas school book standards. What a great idea &#8212; give the power to the students! </p>
<p>Thanks, Doug. This made my day.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906143</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re not even a democratic republic, really. The US is a plutocratic republic, since almost all national-level politicians and most state-level politicians are millionaires. 

Because votes can be manipulated so easily on a large scale by the media, and because media firms are vast cash-processing machines, only those with cash need apply.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not even a democratic republic, really. The US is a plutocratic republic, since almost all national-level politicians and most state-level politicians are millionaires. </p>
<p>Because votes can be manipulated so easily on a large scale by the media, and because media firms are vast cash-processing machines, only those with cash need apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906149</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d always learned it was a representative republic, which is a type of moderate democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d always learned it was a representative republic, which is a type of moderate democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: BobbyMike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906152</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an unfortunate response to people from the other side of the spectrum doing the same. It&#039;s getting idiotic. Thank God we can still Home School in this country (unlike Germany and other &quot;Progressive&quot; countries that find the practice &quot;antisocial&quot;.

For an extreme example of how stupid liberals can also be just look at the requirements for New York State Hunter Safety courses. This year the course requirements deleted the First Aid requirement so that a segment on Sexual Harassment could be inserted.

Hmmm... lack of common sense maybe? Someone gets injured while hunting and their buddies might not know how to stop their bleeding, or splint a broken limb, but they will know how not to sexually harass them! Awesome! Way to go, clueless partisan bureaucrat! Now I can take my 12 year old who is not at all interested in sex yet and introduce him to the subject, just so he can hunt.

The best policy is to include all sides and let the kids figure out what they think the truth is. Problem is that too many people think that group think is the best way to move society forward (and I&#039;m not giving Liberals, Conservatives, Socialists, Democrats, Republicans, or any other special interest group a pass on that statement). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an unfortunate response to people from the other side of the spectrum doing the same. It&#8217;s getting idiotic. Thank God we can still Home School in this country (unlike Germany and other &#8220;Progressive&#8221; countries that find the practice &#8220;antisocial&#8221;.</p>
<p>For an extreme example of how stupid liberals can also be just look at the requirements for New York State Hunter Safety courses. This year the course requirements deleted the First Aid requirement so that a segment on Sexual Harassment could be inserted.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; lack of common sense maybe? Someone gets injured while hunting and their buddies might not know how to stop their bleeding, or splint a broken limb, but they will know how not to sexually harass them! Awesome! Way to go, clueless partisan bureaucrat! Now I can take my 12 year old who is not at all interested in sex yet and introduce him to the subject, just so he can hunt.</p>
<p>The best policy is to include all sides and let the kids figure out what they think the truth is. Problem is that too many people think that group think is the best way to move society forward (and I&#8217;m not giving Liberals, Conservatives, Socialists, Democrats, Republicans, or any other special interest group a pass on that statement). </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/08/write-or-be-written.html#comment-906153</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;like what really happened&quot;?!?!? like ANY history book can definitively claim that.  Every book has bias, and inaccuracies.  Granted a wikibook has the potential to present additional evidence and information that can support and allow for rebuttal from any side, but to claim that any nonfiction book is full of &quot;what really happened&quot; is a stretch wider than it is long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;like what really happened&#8221;?!?!? like ANY history book can definitively claim that.  Every book has bias, and inaccuracies.  Granted a wikibook has the potential to present additional evidence and information that can support and allow for rebuttal from any side, but to claim that any nonfiction book is full of &#8220;what really happened&#8221; is a stretch wider than it is long.</p>
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