Comments on: Saul Griffith and Jonathan Bachrach's algorithmically-designed "DARPA Hoodie" http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 04:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-909829 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-909829 Next generation papercraft! Next generation papercraft!

]]> By: nickodemus http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-909838 nickodemus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-909838 The future of 2d vector clothing... It is upon us. The future of 2d vector clothing…

It is upon us.

]]> By: I less than three mermaids http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-910365 I less than three mermaids Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-910365 machine-stamped rifles anyone? machine-stamped rifles anyone?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-909863 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-909863 Cool! I see military industrial complex fashion shows. Oh, wait, didn't we already have that with Iraq and all the embedded journalists. Cool! I see military industrial complex fashion shows. Oh, wait, didn’t we already have that with Iraq and all the embedded journalists.

]]> By: kathleen http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-910124 kathleen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-910124 Pattern makers do this. Seamstresses sew from the 2-D patterns. Tailors typically draft their own, made to measure. But yes, we have a documented history of drafting patterns like this for 500 years or so. We even have software to do it; CAD was first tested in the garment industry. From there it went into aviation and automobiles. I fail to understand how this is any different from what we're already doing. Were any taxpayer dollars injured in the course of generating this redundant effort? For that matter, I'd have to ask the same of Aitor Throup. I've been drafting my patterns using the concepts he claims "defy" tradition for nearly 30 years. People who don't shop around enough often come to the conclusion they've invented something wholly new when it's more likely said concepts exist in plenitude. Still, I give them credit for exercising brain power in their reinventing-the-wheel adventure. It must have been fun and challenging to do it. Fwiw, I like the styling of this hoodie; particularly the squared neckline and offside zipper insertion. Sleeve cap needs a bit of work tho, raising it could eliminate the folding crease running down to the inside of the elbow -provided the sleeve skew were also corrected. Pattern makers do this. Seamstresses sew from the 2-D patterns. Tailors typically draft their own, made to measure. But yes, we have a documented history of drafting patterns like this for 500 years or so. We even have software to do it; CAD was first tested in the garment industry. From there it went into aviation and automobiles. I fail to understand how this is any different from what we’re already doing. Were any taxpayer dollars injured in the course of generating this redundant effort?

For that matter, I’d have to ask the same of Aitor Throup. I’ve been drafting my patterns using the concepts he claims “defy” tradition for nearly 30 years. People who don’t shop around enough often come to the conclusion they’ve invented something wholly new when it’s more likely said concepts exist in plenitude. Still, I give them credit for exercising brain power in their reinventing-the-wheel adventure. It must have been fun and challenging to do it.

Fwiw, I like the styling of this hoodie; particularly the squared neckline and offside zipper insertion. Sleeve cap needs a bit of work tho, raising it could eliminate the folding crease running down to the inside of the elbow -provided the sleeve skew were also corrected.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-909874 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-909874 Folks who're interested in seeing a ton of photos and a vid of the process we used to create it, visit: http://betabrand.com/jackets/darpa-hoodie.html If you're looking for the vid, just scroll down the page a bit. Folks who’re interested in seeing a ton of photos and a vid of the process we used to create it, visit:

http://betabrand.com/jackets/darpa-hoodie.html

If you’re looking for the vid, just scroll down the page a bit.

]]> By: Quiet Noises http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-909893 Quiet Noises Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-909893 Wow, I love this. Volcom always used to have irregularly-cut outerwear that really stood out. Their brand has gotten really diluted and that aesthetic has taken off in other directions. This has reason behind itself though. If only they had better colourways to the paneling. Black with red stitching is rather yawn. As an industrial designer I totally eat stuff like this up! Wow, I love this. Volcom always used to have irregularly-cut outerwear that really stood out. Their brand has gotten really diluted and that aesthetic has taken off in other directions.

This has reason behind itself though. If only they had better colourways to the paneling. Black with red stitching is rather yawn. As an industrial designer I totally eat stuff like this up!

]]> By: Autonymous Media Daemon http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-910274 Autonymous Media Daemon Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-910274 While I'm sure the tech is very interesting and can be used to do wonderful things, that hoodie is just ugly as sin. It looks like a trash bag with highlights. While I’m sure the tech is very interesting and can be used to do wonderful things, that hoodie is just ugly as sin. It looks like a trash bag with highlights.

]]> By: redfield http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-910033 redfield Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-910033 Isn't creating relationships between 3D objects and 2D pattern pieces what seamstresses and tailors have been doing for centuries? Isn’t creating relationships between 3D objects and 2D pattern pieces what seamstresses and tailors have been doing for centuries?

]]> By: Quiet Noises http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-910290 Quiet Noises Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-910290 Kathleen, your last paragraph answers your first one. Tailors and seamstresses design and alter dimensions based on human dimensions and usage needs. The design, manufacturing and specification is entirely derived from a computer, using resolution and packing formulas. It's the backwards process from which tradition and craft have worked. It defines a process, product and user in a completely different manner. It may not be the most logical way of designing something, but it is different. Kathleen, your last paragraph answers your first one. Tailors and seamstresses design and alter dimensions based on human dimensions and usage needs.

The design, manufacturing and specification is entirely derived from a computer, using resolution and packing formulas. It’s the backwards process from which tradition and craft have worked. It defines a process, product and user in a completely different manner. It may not be the most logical way of designing something, but it is different.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-910035 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-910035 I don't necessarily think it's true that you need military funding for this sort of thing - Aitor Throup is a designer who has been exploring similar territory with vastly superior results. You can see the description and photos of his process for creating his 'Modular Anatomy' pieces at the Stone Island site here: http://www.stoneisland.co.uk/archive/modular-anatomy/page/modularanatomy/ As well, a project he did called 'The Funeral of New Orleans' which explores the opportunities modular clothing / paneling provides for artistic expression: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqoWMjpe5l8 I'm excited to see what this software can be used for in the hands of some 'real' clothing designers because the 'DARPA Hoodie' isn't very impressive in any sense - artistically or technically (I'd say here the process is more interesting than the result so far). I don’t necessarily think it’s true that you need military funding for this sort of thing – Aitor Throup is a designer who has been exploring similar territory with vastly superior results.

You can see the description and photos of his process for creating his ‘Modular Anatomy’ pieces at the Stone Island site here: http://www.stoneisland.co.uk/archive/modular-anatomy/page/modularanatomy/

As well, a project he did called ‘The Funeral of New Orleans’ which explores the opportunities modular clothing / paneling provides for artistic expression: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqoWMjpe5l8

I’m excited to see what this software can be used for in the hands of some ‘real’ clothing designers because the ‘DARPA Hoodie’ isn’t very impressive in any sense – artistically or technically (I’d say here the process is more interesting than the result so far).

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-910064 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-910064 "defense department outfit" nice “defense department outfit”
nice

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/10/13/saul-griffith-and-jo.html#comment-909823 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-909823 tbh I find it kind of sickening that so much of the funding for new, interesting things has to come from our bloated defense/industrial complex. tbh I find it kind of sickening that so much of the funding for new, interesting things has to come from our bloated defense/industrial complex.

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