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		<title>By: bkad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913158</link>
		<dc:creator>bkad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no! Not FarmVille!</description>
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		<title>By: ackpht</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913160</link>
		<dc:creator>ackpht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we&#039;re all clear on &quot;this was their business model all along&quot;, right? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we&#8217;re all clear on &#8220;this was their business model all along&#8221;, right? </p>
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		<title>By: BungaDunga</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913170</link>
		<dc:creator>BungaDunga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not exactly a surprise. We&#039;ve known apps could do this; it&#039;s not a bug, it&#039;s a feature. It&#039;s how the API works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not exactly a surprise. We&#8217;ve known apps could do this; it&#8217;s not a bug, it&#8217;s a feature. It&#8217;s how the API works.</p>
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		<title>By: TEKNA2007</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913172</link>
		<dc:creator>TEKNA2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends don&#039;t let friends drive Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends don&#8217;t let friends drive Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: jungletek</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913173</link>
		<dc:creator>jungletek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t really need another reason to consider Zynga total fucking scumbags, but thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t really need another reason to consider Zynga total fucking scumbags, but thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913177</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been known all along. If you don&#039;t want your friend&#039;s apps to give out your private data, you need to uninstall all your apps and then disable the entire app platform. That means not only can&#039;t you play Farmville, but you can&#039;t even update your Facebook from TweetDeck. But such is the price of privacy I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been known all along. If you don&#8217;t want your friend&#8217;s apps to give out your private data, you need to uninstall all your apps and then disable the entire app platform. That means not only can&#8217;t you play Farmville, but you can&#8217;t even update your Facebook from TweetDeck. But such is the price of privacy I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: princessalex</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913180</link>
		<dc:creator>princessalex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another reason to be thankful I&#039;ve never been on Facebook.  </description>
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		<title>By: dave78981</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913441</link>
		<dc:creator>dave78981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit bored with the whole &quot;What&#039;s the point of Farmville?&quot; question. What&#039;s the point of any game? They provide enjoyment, whether through the accomplishment of a goal or the completion of a task or a set of tasks. In addition, Farmville has an element of design that people enjoy too. In order to earn the in-game credits needed to purchase the pretty things, you have to complete tasks. Simple as that.

What Farmville really has done is taken away gaming from the geeks and the nerds and given it to old ladies who can barely log onto Facebook and I think that really rubs the geeks and the nerds the wrong way. 

As far as privacy concerns, I&#039;m in the what&#039;s the big deal? camp. So the amorphous &quot;they&quot; knows my name and that I have a Facebook page and can look at my locked down profile? Have at it. You can see my hiking photos and some photos of me and my girlfriend eating pizza. You might find out that I&#039;m pretty liberal when it comes to social issues. Big deal- I advertise that on my car. Christ, I have an ACLU sticker on my laptop. 

As far as being targeted for advertising- the system is laughably bad. I frequently get ads delivered to my FB page that couldn&#039;t be more opposite of my interests. So I don&#039;t really feel like my personal data is being used to unduly coerce me into buying stuff.

And if you&#039;re dumb enough to post pictures of yourself dressed as a hooker, fellating a dildo and then a few years later you decide to run for public office, then you deserve what you get. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit bored with the whole &#8220;What&#8217;s the point of Farmville?&#8221; question. What&#8217;s the point of any game? They provide enjoyment, whether through the accomplishment of a goal or the completion of a task or a set of tasks. In addition, Farmville has an element of design that people enjoy too. In order to earn the in-game credits needed to purchase the pretty things, you have to complete tasks. Simple as that.</p>
<p>What Farmville really has done is taken away gaming from the geeks and the nerds and given it to old ladies who can barely log onto Facebook and I think that really rubs the geeks and the nerds the wrong way. </p>
<p>As far as privacy concerns, I&#8217;m in the what&#8217;s the big deal? camp. So the amorphous &#8220;they&#8221; knows my name and that I have a Facebook page and can look at my locked down profile? Have at it. You can see my hiking photos and some photos of me and my girlfriend eating pizza. You might find out that I&#8217;m pretty liberal when it comes to social issues. Big deal- I advertise that on my car. Christ, I have an ACLU sticker on my laptop. </p>
<p>As far as being targeted for advertising- the system is laughably bad. I frequently get ads delivered to my FB page that couldn&#8217;t be more opposite of my interests. So I don&#8217;t really feel like my personal data is being used to unduly coerce me into buying stuff.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re dumb enough to post pictures of yourself dressed as a hooker, fellating a dildo and then a few years later you decide to run for public office, then you deserve what you get. </p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913188</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course they don&#039;t mention that this has been happening for what, years?

Put it this way: Since pretty much everybody knows someone who is playing Farmville/Mobwhatever, Zynga now basically has a copy of Facebook&#039;s entire friend structure.

&lt;i&gt;Since a Facebook user ID is a public part of any Facebook profile, anyone can use an ID number to look up a person&#039;s name, using a standard Web browser, even if that person has set all of his or her Facebook information to be private&lt;/i&gt;

Why isn&#039;t what Facebook did (&quot;default to open&quot;) illegal yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course they don&#8217;t mention that this has been happening for what, years?</p>
<p>Put it this way: Since pretty much everybody knows someone who is playing Farmville/Mobwhatever, Zynga now basically has a copy of Facebook&#8217;s entire friend structure.</p>
<p><i>Since a Facebook user ID is a public part of any Facebook profile, anyone can use an ID number to look up a person&#8217;s name, using a standard Web browser, even if that person has set all of his or her Facebook information to be private</i></p>
<p>Why isn&#8217;t what Facebook did (&#8220;default to open&#8221;) illegal yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913444</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but think that while you and I may be fully aware of the information elements we put on FB, and fake some elements that we don&#039;t wish to be known without any compunction, we must represent something like 1% of the Internet population. The rest just freely put birthdays, home addresses, and other dangerous stuff up.

So while we might chuckle and shake our heads at the gullibility of people, it&#039;s clear that we&#039;re not exactly the norm. So rather than blame the masses, I&#039;d rather put the blame squarely on FB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that while you and I may be fully aware of the information elements we put on FB, and fake some elements that we don&#8217;t wish to be known without any compunction, we must represent something like 1% of the Internet population. The rest just freely put birthdays, home addresses, and other dangerous stuff up.</p>
<p>So while we might chuckle and shake our heads at the gullibility of people, it&#8217;s clear that we&#8217;re not exactly the norm. So rather than blame the masses, I&#8217;d rather put the blame squarely on FB.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913190</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I&#039;m sure Facebook doesn&#039;t mind finding out who their dumbest users are when they inevitably introduce some &quot;privacy&quot; checkbox buried deep in your account settings. The stupidest users (i.e. best advertising targets) are the ones who don&#039;t change the setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I&#8217;m sure Facebook doesn&#8217;t mind finding out who their dumbest users are when they inevitably introduce some &#8220;privacy&#8221; checkbox buried deep in your account settings. The stupidest users (i.e. best advertising targets) are the ones who don&#8217;t change the setting.</p>
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		<title>By: MrJM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913446</link>
		<dc:creator>MrJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes Facebook immune to the common law crime of &quot;fraud&quot; -- and what can I do to get similar immunity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes Facebook immune to the common law crime of &#8220;fraud&#8221; &#8212; and what can I do to get similar immunity?</p>
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		<title>By: nixiebunny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913203</link>
		<dc:creator>nixiebunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fine WSJ article has mention of many app companies that were transmitting the Facebook user ID, yet when questioned, claimed that they didn&#039;t transmit any personally identifiable information. 

The story doesn&#039;t mention whether the reporter asked them if they transmitted these IDs or not. Perhaps reporters these days aren&#039;t comfortable with catching people in lies. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fine WSJ article has mention of many app companies that were transmitting the Facebook user ID, yet when questioned, claimed that they didn&#8217;t transmit any personally identifiable information. </p>
<p>The story doesn&#8217;t mention whether the reporter asked them if they transmitted these IDs or not. Perhaps reporters these days aren&#8217;t comfortable with catching people in lies. </p>
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		<title>By: NuOrder72</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913724</link>
		<dc:creator>NuOrder72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed Facebook for the first few months of reconnecting with long-lost classmates and old friends. However, I have never really made any REAL connections on Facebook that are of the least bit of value to me.  Facebook, for people in my age group (30-40 years old), seem to use it to brag about their beautiful kids, their beautiful home, or their wonderful vacations to Disney or Hawaiiâ€¦(It is the PERFECT place to put on appearances.) 

Reading about every little mundane detail of their lives is also not what I have in mind. I donâ€™t think I could read another â€œcute quoteâ€ from a new parent who is going on and on about how their kid pronounces the word â€œGorillaâ€ as â€œGu-wuh-wuhâ€â€¦(UGH!!!)  No doubt, facebook is the most FAKE place on earth I hope we can someday come back to some type of normalcy in this world where people can reconnect in the real-life and meet out at bars or restaurantsâ€¦.(Which I actually do now, but you know what I mean.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed Facebook for the first few months of reconnecting with long-lost classmates and old friends. However, I have never really made any REAL connections on Facebook that are of the least bit of value to me.  Facebook, for people in my age group (30-40 years old), seem to use it to brag about their beautiful kids, their beautiful home, or their wonderful vacations to Disney or Hawaiiâ€¦(It is the PERFECT place to put on appearances.) </p>
<p>Reading about every little mundane detail of their lives is also not what I have in mind. I donâ€™t think I could read another â€œcute quoteâ€ from a new parent who is going on and on about how their kid pronounces the word â€œGorillaâ€ as â€œGu-wuh-wuhâ€â€¦(UGH!!!)  No doubt, facebook is the most FAKE place on earth I hope we can someday come back to some type of normalcy in this world where people can reconnect in the real-life and meet out at bars or restaurantsâ€¦.(Which I actually do now, but you know what I mean.)</p>
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		<title>By: lesbianjesus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913213</link>
		<dc:creator>lesbianjesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing real is my name (make sure you have a false dob for the inevitable identiy hack some day), I have no apps, I audit my privacy settings. It&#039;s the best i can do. Still have to be on there cause it&#039;s the only way to talk to my son while he&#039;s in college.

Goes to show people just aren&#039;t paranoid enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing real is my name (make sure you have a false dob for the inevitable identiy hack some day), I have no apps, I audit my privacy settings. It&#8217;s the best i can do. Still have to be on there cause it&#8217;s the only way to talk to my son while he&#8217;s in college.</p>
<p>Goes to show people just aren&#8217;t paranoid enough.</p>
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		<title>By: lakelady</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913214</link>
		<dc:creator>lakelady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another example of why I only use my real name on the internet on rare ocassions. don&#039;t want private info on the net? don&#039;t post it. period. when are people going to learn this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another example of why I only use my real name on the internet on rare ocassions. don&#8217;t want private info on the net? don&#8217;t post it. period. when are people going to learn this?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913215</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are people going to realize that these &quot;accidental&quot; security breaches are done on purpose? Seriously, how long before people get a clue? 

Do you think Facebook is your friend, or that they *really* give a damn about your privacy? NO, they don&#039;t. Their job is to sell every bit of info on you at whatever the market will bear. I find it disheartening that people still believe that the hundreds and hundreds of ongoing personal information &quot;leaks&quot; are unintentional. Give me a break- I couldn&#039;t code that poorly on purpose. 

Wake up, folks. It happens *regularly* and occurs in every single part of Facebook over and over again. And each time, lo and behold, it&#039;s the advertisers who somehow end up with the data. Gee, what an amazing coincidence. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are people going to realize that these &#8220;accidental&#8221; security breaches are done on purpose? Seriously, how long before people get a clue? </p>
<p>Do you think Facebook is your friend, or that they *really* give a damn about your privacy? NO, they don&#8217;t. Their job is to sell every bit of info on you at whatever the market will bear. I find it disheartening that people still believe that the hundreds and hundreds of ongoing personal information &#8220;leaks&#8221; are unintentional. Give me a break- I couldn&#8217;t code that poorly on purpose. </p>
<p>Wake up, folks. It happens *regularly* and occurs in every single part of Facebook over and over again. And each time, lo and behold, it&#8217;s the advertisers who somehow end up with the data. Gee, what an amazing coincidence. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913219</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Still have to be on there cause it&#039;s the only way 
&gt; to talk to my son while he&#039;s in college.

Oh come one...it&#039;s &quot;the only way&quot; to talk to your son? Ever heard of chat rooms, or email, or telephones, or texting, or Skype? Please, at least try and come up with a believable excuse for using Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> Still have to be on there cause it&#8217;s the only way<br />
> to talk to my son while he&#8217;s in college.</p>
<p>Oh come one&#8230;it&#8217;s &#8220;the only way&#8221; to talk to your son? Ever heard of chat rooms, or email, or telephones, or texting, or Skype? Please, at least try and come up with a believable excuse for using Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: dave78981</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913224</link>
		<dc:creator>dave78981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I predict the level of smugly righteous indignation in this thread will reach epic proportions</description>
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		<title>By: technogeek</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913227</link>
		<dc:creator>technogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is information which you would mind seeing widely distributed, do not post it on a server which you do not control and which is not under contract to you to guarantee security.

That include BoingBoing. Not that I think anyone here is likely to abuse data, but it can be spidered, and the way to maintain a habit is to never let yourself get _out_ of the habit.

There are reasons I have at least four separate online identities, plus an &quot;employee&quot; who registers for some things on my behalf. And I&#039;m selective about what hits the net even in my e-mail.

Heck, I recently went thru and cleaned a bunch of stuff off my hard disk because I wasn&#039;t using it and didn&#039;t want to think about whether it posed a risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is information which you would mind seeing widely distributed, do not post it on a server which you do not control and which is not under contract to you to guarantee security.</p>
<p>That include BoingBoing. Not that I think anyone here is likely to abuse data, but it can be spidered, and the way to maintain a habit is to never let yourself get _out_ of the habit.</p>
<p>There are reasons I have at least four separate online identities, plus an &#8220;employee&#8221; who registers for some things on my behalf. And I&#8217;m selective about what hits the net even in my e-mail.</p>
<p>Heck, I recently went thru and cleaned a bunch of stuff off my hard disk because I wasn&#8217;t using it and didn&#8217;t want to think about whether it posed a risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Verre</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913229</link>
		<dc:creator>Verre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, what is the appeal of FarmVille? Can anyone explain this to me?</description>
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		<title>By: GuyInMilwaukee</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913239</link>
		<dc:creator>GuyInMilwaukee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful with your apps, Eugene.</description>
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		<title>By: KWillets</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913242</link>
		<dc:creator>KWillets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s not clear if developers of many of the apps transmitting Facebook ID numbers even knew that their apps were doing so. The apps were using a common Web standard, known as a &#039;referer,&#039; which passes on the address of the last page viewed when a user clicks on a link. On Facebook and other social-networking sites, referers can expose a user&#039;s identity.&quot;

OK, I work for Zynga, so I&#039;m probably already guilty of some heinous crime I&#039;m not yet aware of, but referer is a &lt;i&gt;browser&lt;/i&gt;-supplied field.  When you click on a link, the browser sends the url of the page you were on when you clicked it, &lt;i&gt;in the http header&lt;/i&gt;.  If you&#039;re in your FB account the url includes your userid.  ZOMG.

Also, I wouldn&#039;t put the comma inside the quote there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not clear if developers of many of the apps transmitting Facebook ID numbers even knew that their apps were doing so. The apps were using a common Web standard, known as a &#8216;referer,&#8217; which passes on the address of the last page viewed when a user clicks on a link. On Facebook and other social-networking sites, referers can expose a user&#8217;s identity.&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, I work for Zynga, so I&#8217;m probably already guilty of some heinous crime I&#8217;m not yet aware of, but referer is a <i>browser</i>-supplied field.  When you click on a link, the browser sends the url of the page you were on when you clicked it, <i>in the http header</i>.  If you&#8217;re in your FB account the url includes your userid.  ZOMG.</p>
<p>Also, I wouldn&#8217;t put the comma inside the quote there.</p>
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		<title>By: zibalatz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913249</link>
		<dc:creator>zibalatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, we recognized and discussed a solution to this problem in the group &quot;Anything PRIVATE shall never be made PUBLIC&quot; over here:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=122212854462445&amp;topic=81

It is not overly difficult to fix the design of the API in order to both allow privacy and flexibility in app creation.

BTW, the goal of this group is to come up with concrete solutions to FB&#039;s privacy problems.  Check it out here:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=122212854462445</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, we recognized and discussed a solution to this problem in the group &#8220;Anything PRIVATE shall never be made PUBLIC&#8221; over here:<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=122212854462445&#038;topic=81" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=122212854462445&#038;topic=81</a></p>
<p>It is not overly difficult to fix the design of the API in order to both allow privacy and flexibility in app creation.</p>
<p>BTW, the goal of this group is to come up with concrete solutions to FB&#8217;s privacy problems.  Check it out here:<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=122212854462445" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=122212854462445</a></p>
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		<title>By: Promethean Sky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913251</link>
		<dc:creator>Promethean Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m probably alone in this, but I really don&#039;t give a damn about my privacy. Anything that I want kept private, doesn&#039;t go online ANYWHERE. The vast majority of the stuff about me, I don&#039;t care who knows. Fun fact: contained in this post is everything needed to find my facebook, email, real name, and tens of thousands of message board posts.

Yes, I understand that what&#039;s happening to other people here sucks. I fully believe that Zuckerberg needs a swift kick in the ass. But at this point, only a fool expects the stuff they do online to stay private. Make peace with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably alone in this, but I really don&#8217;t give a damn about my privacy. Anything that I want kept private, doesn&#8217;t go online ANYWHERE. The vast majority of the stuff about me, I don&#8217;t care who knows. Fun fact: contained in this post is everything needed to find my facebook, email, real name, and tens of thousands of message board posts.</p>
<p>Yes, I understand that what&#8217;s happening to other people here sucks. I fully believe that Zuckerberg needs a swift kick in the ass. But at this point, only a fool expects the stuff they do online to stay private. Make peace with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913764</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEKNA2007 is not wrong: commas are often placed inside quotations in both cases. For an example you need look no further than &lt;a href=&quot;http://orwell.ru/library/others/style/english/estyle&quot;&gt;The Elements of Style&lt;/a&gt;, which says that &quot;typographical usage dictates that the comma be inside the marks, though logically it often seems not to belong there.&quot;

Personally I think your rule makes more sense, but it&#039;s still a matter of convention, so I wouldn&#039;t try to force other posters one way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEKNA2007 is not wrong: commas are often placed inside quotations in both cases. For an example you need look no further than <a href="http://orwell.ru/library/others/style/english/estyle">The Elements of Style</a>, which says that &#8220;typographical usage dictates that the comma be inside the marks, though logically it often seems not to belong there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally I think your rule makes more sense, but it&#8217;s still a matter of convention, so I wouldn&#8217;t try to force other posters one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913254</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. http://www.assbook.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. <a href="http://www.assbook.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.assbook.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: KWillets</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913255</link>
		<dc:creator>KWillets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, about that social graph:  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_user_data_analysis.php .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, about that social graph:  <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_user_data_analysis.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_user_data_analysis.php</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: peacefrog</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913260</link>
		<dc:creator>peacefrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so you think lakelady is discrete?  do you think if someone knew you personally they would be able to guess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so you think lakelady is discrete?  do you think if someone knew you personally they would be able to guess?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/17/new-facebook-privacy.html#comment-913262</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use different pseudonyms everywhere except for the most bland and innocent sites. Plus, based on the number of times that &#039;Antinous&#039; has already been taken, it&#039;s in common use. It&#039;s amazing to me how some people will say the vilest, most threatening things in a political forum and then post their home address under the same pseudonym in the knitting forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use different pseudonyms everywhere except for the most bland and innocent sites. Plus, based on the number of times that &#8216;Antinous&#8217; has already been taken, it&#8217;s in common use. It&#8217;s amazing to me how some people will say the vilest, most threatening things in a political forum and then post their home address under the same pseudonym in the knitting forum.</p>
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