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	<title>Comments on: The last mystery of the blues: were Robert Johnson&#039;s recordings sped&#160;up?</title>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-918784</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC during the 1950s recording artists would occasionally alter the speed of their recordings&#039; backing instrumental tracks in order to discourage and wrong-foot the copy-cats who would rush to cut their own versions of whatever songs became hot on the radio.
Again IIRC, the patchwork of audio recording copyright laws, which then varied state-by-state, allowed such copy-cats to operate with impunity, and to thereby eat the original artist&#039;s lunch.

Fats Domino was one artist who used such speed alterations to his piano tracks to screw up the would-be copycats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxaRd8nvtn4

Instant knock-off near-versions of their material was the bane of the early singles-oriented R&#039;n&#039;R artists: and adding speed variations to or in the underlying instrumental tracks was one way they tried to combat that evil. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC during the 1950s recording artists would occasionally alter the speed of their recordings&#8217; backing instrumental tracks in order to discourage and wrong-foot the copy-cats who would rush to cut their own versions of whatever songs became hot on the radio.<br />
Again IIRC, the patchwork of audio recording copyright laws, which then varied state-by-state, allowed such copy-cats to operate with impunity, and to thereby eat the original artist&#8217;s lunch.</p>
<p>Fats Domino was one artist who used such speed alterations to his piano tracks to screw up the would-be copycats:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxaRd8nvtn4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxaRd8nvtn4</a></p>
<p>Instant knock-off near-versions of their material was the bane of the early singles-oriented R&#8217;n'R artists: and adding speed variations to or in the underlying instrumental tracks was one way they tried to combat that evil. </p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-918785</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric Clapton is God!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZeqwdWoeo

...or at least he used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Clapton is God!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZeqwdWoeo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZeqwdWoeo</a></p>
<p>&#8230;or at least he used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-918792</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OTOH, it is nice to see that Mr Johnson yet has influence, even though it&#039;s often unrecognized:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFtnuUL9C7E

...that is a version of a Robert Johnson song, is it not?

Of course it is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXXh24HnmY

... his stuff is more influential than ever, seems to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OTOH, it is nice to see that Mr Johnson yet has influence, even though it&#8217;s often unrecognized:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFtnuUL9C7E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFtnuUL9C7E</a></p>
<p>&#8230;that is a version of a Robert Johnson song, is it not?</p>
<p>Of course it is&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXXh24HnmY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXXh24HnmY</a></p>
<p>&#8230; his stuff is more influential than ever, seems to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As some of the comments mention, this has happened with other recordings. There is a 7&quot; by a 1980&#039;s hardcore punk band called Koro. It&#039;s a really similar story - incredibly fast, frantic, very influential...only in this case it turns out that, intentionally or not, it WAS sped up. They have an unreleased album that isn&#039;t nearly as fast, and sure enough, if you slow the 7&quot; down a bit, it matches the speed/sound of the album and it suddenly hits you that the the snare drum and cymbals didn&#039;t sound quite right before. 

Also, Woid&#039;s comment makes a really good point - given the technology at the time, it&#039;s highly unlikely that both recording sessions would have been sped up in the exact same way, even if that was was they were trying to do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some of the comments mention, this has happened with other recordings. There is a 7&#8243; by a 1980&#8242;s hardcore punk band called Koro. It&#8217;s a really similar story &#8211; incredibly fast, frantic, very influential&#8230;only in this case it turns out that, intentionally or not, it WAS sped up. They have an unreleased album that isn&#8217;t nearly as fast, and sure enough, if you slow the 7&#8243; down a bit, it matches the speed/sound of the album and it suddenly hits you that the the snare drum and cymbals didn&#8217;t sound quite right before. </p>
<p>Also, Woid&#8217;s comment makes a really good point &#8211; given the technology at the time, it&#8217;s highly unlikely that both recording sessions would have been sped up in the exact same way, even if that was was they were trying to do. </p>
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		<title>By: woid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-918326</link>
		<dc:creator>woid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two thoughts â€” first, as TamGoddess said in comment #1, you can infer a lot from what keys are used. If either set of recordings, fast or slow, yields a strange combination of keys for the guitar, then it&#039;s less likely to be authentic. You&#039;d expect a lot of E, A, D, G, etc... One song in Bb, say, wouldn&#039;t prove anything because it could be an odd tuning or capoing â€” but the set that fits the guitar&#039;s natural keys more closely is likely to be the one.

But here&#039;s a clincher: we don&#039;t only have one set of Robert Johnson recordings, we have two. A single session&#039;s recordings might have been altered, though it&#039;s doubtful â€” but two sessions, done in different settings at different times by different people? 

I&#039;ll bet somebody someplace has a high-tech technique that could analyze the recordings and settle this stubborn speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two thoughts â€” first, as TamGoddess said in comment #1, you can infer a lot from what keys are used. If either set of recordings, fast or slow, yields a strange combination of keys for the guitar, then it&#8217;s less likely to be authentic. You&#8217;d expect a lot of E, A, D, G, etc&#8230; One song in Bb, say, wouldn&#8217;t prove anything because it could be an odd tuning or capoing â€” but the set that fits the guitar&#8217;s natural keys more closely is likely to be the one.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s a clincher: we don&#8217;t only have one set of Robert Johnson recordings, we have two. A single session&#8217;s recordings might have been altered, though it&#8217;s doubtful â€” but two sessions, done in different settings at different times by different people? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet somebody someplace has a high-tech technique that could analyze the recordings and settle this stubborn speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Wikipedia:

*Former Sony music executive Lawrence Cohn, who won a Grammy for the label&#039;s 1991 reissue of Johnson&#039;s works, &quot;acknowledges there&#039;s a possibility Johnson&#039;s 1936-37 recordings were sped up, since the OKeh/Vocalion family of labels, which originally issued the material, was &#039;notorious&#039; for altering the speed of its releases. &#039;Sometimes it was 78 rpms, sometimes it was 81 rpms,&#039; he says. It&#039;s impossible to check the original sources, since the metal stampers used to duplicate the original 78 discs disappeared years ago.*

I could live with this statement but for one word: &quot;NOTORIOUS&quot;. According to dictionary.com the definition for notorious is &quot;widely and unfavorably known as in a particular trait&quot; and &quot;well known for some bad and unfavorable quality&quot; and &quot;widely acknowledged&quot;.

Simply put: &quot;It is more likely than not the Robert Johnson recordings were sped up based on the recording traits Brunswick Records were widely known to utilize&quot;.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson_(musician)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia:</p>
<p>*Former Sony music executive Lawrence Cohn, who won a Grammy for the label&#8217;s 1991 reissue of Johnson&#8217;s works, &#8220;acknowledges there&#8217;s a possibility Johnson&#8217;s 1936-37 recordings were sped up, since the OKeh/Vocalion family of labels, which originally issued the material, was &#8216;notorious&#8217; for altering the speed of its releases. &#8216;Sometimes it was 78 rpms, sometimes it was 81 rpms,&#8217; he says. It&#8217;s impossible to check the original sources, since the metal stampers used to duplicate the original 78 discs disappeared years ago.*</p>
<p>I could live with this statement but for one word: &#8220;NOTORIOUS&#8221;. According to dictionary.com the definition for notorious is &#8220;widely and unfavorably known as in a particular trait&#8221; and &#8220;well known for some bad and unfavorable quality&#8221; and &#8220;widely acknowledged&#8221;.</p>
<p>Simply put: &#8220;It is more likely than not the Robert Johnson recordings were sped up based on the recording traits Brunswick Records were widely known to utilize&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson_(musician)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson_(musician)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ anon #18 - In regards to echo on Johnson&#039;s recordings: Field recordings at the time were done in hotel rooms on portable equipment. Most (if not all) artists played in the center of the room, or wherever the equipment was set up. I&#039;ve read that Johnson, in order to get &quot;that&quot; sound, asked to have the microphone sitting in the corner of the room with his chair facing into the corner. Go stand in the center of your bedroom and sing, then go stand in a corner with no furnishings or windows and listen. Or even better, play an acoustic guitar. You&#039;ll get the idea. 

Johnson is, and always will be, an enigma. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ anon #18 &#8211; In regards to echo on Johnson&#8217;s recordings: Field recordings at the time were done in hotel rooms on portable equipment. Most (if not all) artists played in the center of the room, or wherever the equipment was set up. I&#8217;ve read that Johnson, in order to get &#8220;that&#8221; sound, asked to have the microphone sitting in the corner of the room with his chair facing into the corner. Go stand in the center of your bedroom and sing, then go stand in a corner with no furnishings or windows and listen. Or even better, play an acoustic guitar. You&#8217;ll get the idea. </p>
<p>Johnson is, and always will be, an enigma. </p>
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		<title>By: robophonic</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a musician who plays fingerstyle/slide delta blues, my intuition and ear tell me that this 95% version is how he really sounded live. The guitar and voice sound much more natural (and less otherworldly) here, and open A is a much more likely tuning than open B flat. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a musician who plays fingerstyle/slide delta blues, my intuition and ear tell me that this 95% version is how he really sounded live. The guitar and voice sound much more natural (and less otherworldly) here, and open A is a much more likely tuning than open B flat. </p>
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		<title>By: tamgoddess</title>
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		<description>The first question that pops into my mind is: what key did he play in each version? That would seem to be an obvious clue. Some are far more likely than others, even considering whether he used a capo. 

I guess this story is about the mystery, not the answers, though. Certainly, you&#039;ve looked into that already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first question that pops into my mind is: what key did he play in each version? That would seem to be an obvious clue. Some are far more likely than others, even considering whether he used a capo. </p>
<p>I guess this story is about the mystery, not the answers, though. Certainly, you&#8217;ve looked into that already.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Iron Prison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Iron Prison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm....

My first question is, if his recordings were deliberately *sped up* 20% for release, how exactly was this accomplished? Either they slowed the cutting disc down during the original recording, or they played a disc an re-recorded it using the same technique. I think its fair to rule out the latter as they would produce some unlistenable results. As for the former, it is certainly possible and many recordings or this period vary in pitch and sometimes seem to &quot;speed up&quot; during the recording if equipment failure caused the motors to slow down during the recording.

This leads to my second question: why? Speeding the final playback up by 20% would not yield that much more music per side. I would seem a simpler solution to just ask the performer to limit his performance to 3 minutes or cue him when his recording time is up. Considering that this would have to have been done on both recording sessions the same way, I am going to weigh in and say that this is unlikely.

I think that the limited bandwidth of the early recordings combined with the fact that signing vibratos today are much slower on average than they were in the early 20th century, combine in this instance to create the illusion of artificially increased speed int he recording.

My $.02 anyway...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>My first question is, if his recordings were deliberately *sped up* 20% for release, how exactly was this accomplished? Either they slowed the cutting disc down during the original recording, or they played a disc an re-recorded it using the same technique. I think its fair to rule out the latter as they would produce some unlistenable results. As for the former, it is certainly possible and many recordings or this period vary in pitch and sometimes seem to &#8220;speed up&#8221; during the recording if equipment failure caused the motors to slow down during the recording.</p>
<p>This leads to my second question: why? Speeding the final playback up by 20% would not yield that much more music per side. I would seem a simpler solution to just ask the performer to limit his performance to 3 minutes or cue him when his recording time is up. Considering that this would have to have been done on both recording sessions the same way, I am going to weigh in and say that this is unlikely.</p>
<p>I think that the limited bandwidth of the early recordings combined with the fact that signing vibratos today are much slower on average than they were in the early 20th century, combine in this instance to create the illusion of artificially increased speed int he recording.</p>
<p>My $.02 anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: boingboingdave</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there anywhere we can hear recordings of both speeds for comparison?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there anywhere we can hear recordings of both speeds for comparison?</p>
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		<title>By: Omir the Storyteller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omir the Storyteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never watched a minute of CSI:$RANDOM_LOCATION in my entire life, and I would so watch this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never watched a minute of CSI:$RANDOM_LOCATION in my entire life, and I would so watch this.</p>
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		<title>By: boingboingdave</title>
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		<dc:creator>boingboingdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, found it http://www.touched.co.uk/press/rjnote.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, found it <a href="http://www.touched.co.uk/press/rjnote.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.touched.co.uk/press/rjnote.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good and interesting story. It seems the Devil is holding up his end of the bargain by securing Johnson&#039;s legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good and interesting story. It seems the Devil is holding up his end of the bargain by securing Johnson&#8217;s legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShirt77</title>
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		<description>Thanks, I was a little baffled why one would write this post and not include a link to hear the comparison.  </description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>This reminds me of how some art critics freaked out when the Sistine Chapel was restored and all the centuries of soot and dirt was removed from the ceiling.  Michelangelo&#039;s paintings turned out to not be dour and dark but very bright and colorful, his original designs.  Some even said they should&#039;ve been left dirty as if Michelangelo&#039;s intent was for people to smudge his work with candle soot forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of how some art critics freaked out when the Sistine Chapel was restored and all the centuries of soot and dirt was removed from the ceiling.  Michelangelo&#8217;s paintings turned out to not be dour and dark but very bright and colorful, his original designs.  Some even said they should&#8217;ve been left dirty as if Michelangelo&#8217;s intent was for people to smudge his work with candle soot forever.</p>
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		<title>By: yupgiboy</title>
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		<description>That technique happened quite a bit in Pop music. It&#039;s usually done to make the singer sound younger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That technique happened quite a bit in Pop music. It&#8217;s usually done to make the singer sound younger.</p>
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		<title>By: Cruxx</title>
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		<description>I believe it! His voice always sounded strange to me, and now it makes sense. I like it more slowed down, can&#039;t wait to find all his work corrected like this. 

PS Eric Clapton can suck it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it! His voice always sounded strange to me, and now it makes sense. I like it more slowed down, can&#8217;t wait to find all his work corrected like this. </p>
<p>PS Eric Clapton can suck it. </p>
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		<title>By: lyd</title>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;everyone from Eric Clapton and Keith Richards to generations of lesser performers and enthusiasts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have kind of a big problem with the &quot;commercial success equals quality&quot; assumptions that seem to be inherent in that statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>everyone from Eric Clapton and Keith Richards to generations of lesser performers and enthusiasts.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have kind of a big problem with the &#8220;commercial success equals quality&#8221; assumptions that seem to be inherent in that statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Guterman</title>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. I should have included such a link. Thanks for adding it!</description>
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		<title>By: namnezia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-917883</link>
		<dc:creator>namnezia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know... those slowed down versions on the link above sound somewhat distorted and, well, slowed down, as opposed to the original releases sounding sped-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230; those slowed down versions on the link above sound somewhat distorted and, well, slowed down, as opposed to the original releases sounding sped-up.</p>
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		<title>By: dbeckett</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-917893</link>
		<dc:creator>dbeckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. Maybe it could have read &quot;...generations of less well known performers...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Maybe it could have read &#8220;&#8230;generations of less well known performers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Guterman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-917896</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Guterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much better; that&#039;s what I should have written and that&#039;s what I meant. John Fahey, for example, is way less well-known than Clapton or Keith, but he&#039;s no less a talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much better; that&#8217;s what I should have written and that&#8217;s what I meant. John Fahey, for example, is way less well-known than Clapton or Keith, but he&#8217;s no less a talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true... but the recordings are only about 5% faster than reality. Not 20% - That&#039;s why 80% &amp; 85% speed sound so overly deliberate. It was a common practice in that era across the board. Many recordings, including Johnson&#039;s were made on portable machines with speed control. Speed and consistency of speed were often an issue. Also 10&quot; 78s had a max side length of 3 minutes. The recordist would drop back the speed to get the length. This would become the &quot;mother&quot; pressing for all future pressings... thus why ALL of his recordings would sound alike, despite the fact that some sides were never officially issued on 78s. They were *recorded* on 78s. More accurately, they were recorded somewhere around 74 or 75rpm on a 78rpm disc.

The 120hz hum that another person mentioned confirming 78.26rpm  -- this is most likely the byproduct of duplication. So called &quot;Masters&quot; had to be produced at some point from the original &quot;Mother&quot; discs and used for all further duplication. The &quot;mother&quot; discs designed for making the recordings would not stand up to repeated play. Thus, those &quot;masters&quot; would serve as the basis for all further duplication and remastering. 

Here&#039;s an accurate version of what Crossroads sounded like in reality http://youtu.be/snLe-f1g8IY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true&#8230; but the recordings are only about 5% faster than reality. Not 20% &#8211; That&#8217;s why 80% &#038; 85% speed sound so overly deliberate. It was a common practice in that era across the board. Many recordings, including Johnson&#8217;s were made on portable machines with speed control. Speed and consistency of speed were often an issue. Also 10&#8243; 78s had a max side length of 3 minutes. The recordist would drop back the speed to get the length. This would become the &#8220;mother&#8221; pressing for all future pressings&#8230; thus why ALL of his recordings would sound alike, despite the fact that some sides were never officially issued on 78s. They were *recorded* on 78s. More accurately, they were recorded somewhere around 74 or 75rpm on a 78rpm disc.</p>
<p>The 120hz hum that another person mentioned confirming 78.26rpm  &#8212; this is most likely the byproduct of duplication. So called &#8220;Masters&#8221; had to be produced at some point from the original &#8220;Mother&#8221; discs and used for all further duplication. The &#8220;mother&#8221; discs designed for making the recordings would not stand up to repeated play. Thus, those &#8220;masters&#8221; would serve as the basis for all further duplication and remastering. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an accurate version of what Crossroads sounded like in reality <a href="http://youtu.be/snLe-f1g8IY" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/snLe-f1g8IY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tthe high voice may have been inspired by Skip James, who was a big influence on Robert Johnson.  Skip&#039;s songs &quot;22-20 Blues&quot; and &quot;Devil Got My Woman&quot; are said to be the the basis for Jonson&#039;s &quot;32-20 blues&quot; and &quot;Hellhound on My Trail&quot;

22-20 Blues:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obW2spw51qc

Devil Got My Woman:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijvn6wFdE6Y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tthe high voice may have been inspired by Skip James, who was a big influence on Robert Johnson.  Skip&#8217;s songs &#8220;22-20 Blues&#8221; and &#8220;Devil Got My Woman&#8221; are said to be the the basis for Jonson&#8217;s &#8220;32-20 blues&#8221; and &#8220;Hellhound on My Trail&#8221;</p>
<p>22-20 Blues:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obW2spw51qc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obW2spw51qc</a></p>
<p>Devil Got My Woman:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijvn6wFdE6Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijvn6wFdE6Y</a></p>
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		<title>By: Baldhead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-917909</link>
		<dc:creator>Baldhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sped up to fit on a record sounds likely. happened a lot on old jazz records (as well as cutting solos down to a few bars).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sped up to fit on a record sounds likely. happened a lot on old jazz records (as well as cutting solos down to a few bars).</p>
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		<title>By: ill lich</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-917915</link>
		<dc:creator>ill lich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Rounder records reissued the recordings of Jelly Roll Morton about 15 years ago, they corrected the pitch -- a guitar may be tuned higher or lower across every note, but a piano rarely is.  They knew what keys he played in and fixed the recordings.  That would be harder to do with Robert Johnson we don&#039;t know if he tuned his guitar to standard pitch, or if he just tuned it to itself, letting the pitch shift over time (ask a guitarist if you don&#039;t get it.)

That said, the very first time I heard Robert Johnson, knowing little about the blues or early recording techniques, I thought the pitch had been raised.  It just sounded wrong to me.  Since then I have always just assumed the recordings were wrong, the same way old silent movies are all sped up; I just accepted it, but secretly hoped one of the various remastered collections would fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Rounder records reissued the recordings of Jelly Roll Morton about 15 years ago, they corrected the pitch &#8212; a guitar may be tuned higher or lower across every note, but a piano rarely is.  They knew what keys he played in and fixed the recordings.  That would be harder to do with Robert Johnson we don&#8217;t know if he tuned his guitar to standard pitch, or if he just tuned it to itself, letting the pitch shift over time (ask a guitarist if you don&#8217;t get it.)</p>
<p>That said, the very first time I heard Robert Johnson, knowing little about the blues or early recording techniques, I thought the pitch had been raised.  It just sounded wrong to me.  Since then I have always just assumed the recordings were wrong, the same way old silent movies are all sped up; I just accepted it, but secretly hoped one of the various remastered collections would fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShirt77</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-917919</link>
		<dc:creator>RedShirt77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff though Jimmy. Thanks for a good read.</description>
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		<title>By: fancyfeast</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/the-last-mystery-of.html#comment-917920</link>
		<dc:creator>fancyfeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that there were many people that witnessed Johnson live and heard the recordings as well.  Why would they have not said something?  Certainly competing blues musicians would have cried foul, or at least made fun of him for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that there were many people that witnessed Johnson live and heard the recordings as well.  Why would they have not said something?  Certainly competing blues musicians would have cried foul, or at least made fun of him for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be some echo in the recordings.  Any way we could get the dimensions of the rooms he recorded in and measure the time lapse between his singing and the reverb?  The bigger room, the longer delay, and vice versa.  May not be enough to prove anything, but may get us closer to the real Robert Johnson.  

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be some echo in the recordings.  Any way we could get the dimensions of the rooms he recorded in and measure the time lapse between his singing and the reverb?  The bigger room, the longer delay, and vice versa.  May not be enough to prove anything, but may get us closer to the real Robert Johnson.  </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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