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		<title>By: elk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920064</link>
		<dc:creator>elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory: shame on you for spitefully transmitting this full email in front of your full readership as this photog protects his livelihood in a professional manor. Just b/c a photographer may not conduct biz the way you might, doesn&#039;t make it wrong or unethical. IMO the bad form is on you, rather than him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory: shame on you for spitefully transmitting this full email in front of your full readership as this photog protects his livelihood in a professional manor. Just b/c a photographer may not conduct biz the way you might, doesn&#8217;t make it wrong or unethical. IMO the bad form is on you, rather than him.</p>
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		<title>By: ahankinson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920066</link>
		<dc:creator>ahankinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@eyeruh

Boingboing runs advertising, which is sold because it links interested people to interesting stories. They don&#039;t need to share their profits with Stu, because they&#039;re not making money off his picturesâ€”they just happen to be part of the story, and a means of enticing people to view his work. It would be different if BB ripped off all the photos. Plus, the original story includes a link to the NY Times that has the full story and all the pictures, who *do* make money off the story, and who *do* pay Stu. Fewer eyeballs = fewer dollars for Stu.

Can you imagine walking into a paint store and asking for paint samples, only to be told that if you want them, you&#039;ll have to buy a bucket of paint? The store makes no money giving away samples, but it makes its money back (often many times over) when they have a sold a bucket of paint.

Yes, Stu reserves the right to be an ass, but that doesn&#039;t mean others can&#039;t ridicule him because of it just like I&#039;m free to tell everyone not to visit your paint store because your customer service stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@eyeruh</p>
<p>Boingboing runs advertising, which is sold because it links interested people to interesting stories. They don&#8217;t need to share their profits with Stu, because they&#8217;re not making money off his picturesâ€”they just happen to be part of the story, and a means of enticing people to view his work. It would be different if BB ripped off all the photos. Plus, the original story includes a link to the NY Times that has the full story and all the pictures, who *do* make money off the story, and who *do* pay Stu. Fewer eyeballs = fewer dollars for Stu.</p>
<p>Can you imagine walking into a paint store and asking for paint samples, only to be told that if you want them, you&#8217;ll have to buy a bucket of paint? The store makes no money giving away samples, but it makes its money back (often many times over) when they have a sold a bucket of paint.</p>
<p>Yes, Stu reserves the right to be an ass, but that doesn&#8217;t mean others can&#8217;t ridicule him because of it just like I&#8217;m free to tell everyone not to visit your paint store because your customer service stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: tumblingwall</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920071</link>
		<dc:creator>tumblingwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spitefully? I think it shows how reasonably the photographer was.</description>
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		<title>By: hadlock</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919561</link>
		<dc:creator>hadlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note the ceiling mount industrial heater, high ceilings; total lack of insulation. This place is probably awesome in early spring and fall, but miserably hot in the summer and brutally cold in the winter. This would make an excellent bar/club for special events, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the ceiling mount industrial heater, high ceilings; total lack of insulation. This place is probably awesome in early spring and fall, but miserably hot in the summer and brutally cold in the winter. This would make an excellent bar/club for special events, though.</p>
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		<title>By: ahankinson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920073</link>
		<dc:creator>ahankinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@elk

Would you rather they just &quot;disappeared&quot; the story? There&#039;s no commentary by Cory, and no editorializing. They took it down because of the letter, which is (I assume) faithfully reproduced verbatim.

Where do you get &quot;spitefully&quot; from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@elk</p>
<p>Would you rather they just &#8220;disappeared&#8221; the story? There&#8217;s no commentary by Cory, and no editorializing. They took it down because of the letter, which is (I assume) faithfully reproduced verbatim.</p>
<p>Where do you get &#8220;spitefully&#8221; from?</p>
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		<title>By: Coherent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920083</link>
		<dc:creator>Coherent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol I think putting his email up is perfectly legit and cool and exactly how this should be handled.  There&#039;s no reason to say anything but his own words, he can literally speak for himself.  That way, there are absolutely no misunderstandings, and everybody knows exactly where they stand.

Stu is a jerk who doesn&#039;t appreciate free publicity and so he&#039;ll be remembered for that instead of his photos, which is as it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol I think putting his email up is perfectly legit and cool and exactly how this should be handled.  There&#8217;s no reason to say anything but his own words, he can literally speak for himself.  That way, there are absolutely no misunderstandings, and everybody knows exactly where they stand.</p>
<p>Stu is a jerk who doesn&#8217;t appreciate free publicity and so he&#8217;ll be remembered for that instead of his photos, which is as it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeruh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920092</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeruh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, they&#039;re making money off of his photos--the stories generate pageviews and the pageviews generate income.  I&#039;m not saying Stu is making a smart decision but I am saying that it&#039;s his decision to make and he doesn&#039;t deserve to be called an ass because he sees things differently than you.   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, they&#8217;re making money off of his photos&#8211;the stories generate pageviews and the pageviews generate income.  I&#8217;m not saying Stu is making a smart decision but I am saying that it&#8217;s his decision to make and he doesn&#8217;t deserve to be called an ass because he sees things differently than you.   </p>
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		<title>By: strangefriend</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920096</link>
		<dc:creator>strangefriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, he certainly has issues with fair use of his photos.  From http://www.lightstalkers.org/stuartisett:


Warning: Nobelprize.org wants freebies

Warning, Nobelprize.org is out mining for free pix of Nobel Laureates for their website. They asked for my Aung San Suu Kyi images, pointing out how they were a lowly â€˜non-profitâ€™. I sent them my rates, plus a memo asking if they also asked for free lunch when they ate at the Swedish Deli, plus this link:

http://philmfreax.com/info/pricing.html
21 Oct 2009 18:10 &#124; 26 replies 

Hey, Stuart, if you&#039;re worried about starving in your old age, if you&#039;re ever down and out and in my vicinity, I&#039;ll treat you to a meal &amp; beer.  But you&#039;ll have to listen to a lecture on fair use while you eat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he certainly has issues with fair use of his photos.  From <a href="http://www.lightstalkers.org/stuartisett" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightstalkers.org/stuartisett</a>:</p>
<p>Warning: Nobelprize.org wants freebies</p>
<p>Warning, Nobelprize.org is out mining for free pix of Nobel Laureates for their website. They asked for my Aung San Suu Kyi images, pointing out how they were a lowly â€˜non-profitâ€™. I sent them my rates, plus a memo asking if they also asked for free lunch when they ate at the Swedish Deli, plus this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://philmfreax.com/info/pricing.html" rel="nofollow">http://philmfreax.com/info/pricing.html</a><br />
21 Oct 2009 18:10 | 26 replies </p>
<p>Hey, Stuart, if you&#8217;re worried about starving in your old age, if you&#8217;re ever down and out and in my vicinity, I&#8217;ll treat you to a meal &#038; beer.  But you&#8217;ll have to listen to a lecture on fair use while you eat.</p>
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		<title>By: spacemunky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919596</link>
		<dc:creator>spacemunky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone talking about brutal heat, bitter cold, and raging storms hitting this place know nothing of Seattle weather.</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Beschizza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920118</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Beschizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The letter we received was obviously business correspondence that instructed us to do something specific on our site. It wasn&#039;t private material. It was posted to explain why we have unpublished a post.  

Angry at us for publishing a take-down notice we received? It&#039;s futile, so you may as well chill out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter we received was obviously business correspondence that instructed us to do something specific on our site. It wasn&#8217;t private material. It was posted to explain why we have unpublished a post.  </p>
<p>Angry at us for publishing a take-down notice we received? It&#8217;s futile, so you may as well chill out.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Beschizza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920120</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Beschizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BB is lucky NYT didnt come after them.&quot;

Silly! The New York Times had no problem with it (we asked.) But the NYT wasn&#039;t (in this case) the actual proprietor of the image. So we took it down when asked by the photographer. There&#039;s not a lot of point to the post without it, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BB is lucky NYT didnt come after them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Silly! The New York Times had no problem with it (we asked.) But the NYT wasn&#8217;t (in this case) the actual proprietor of the image. So we took it down when asked by the photographer. There&#8217;s not a lot of point to the post without it, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: seachange</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919614</link>
		<dc:creator>seachange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but this is at &lt;i&gt;the top of the Smith Tower.&lt;/i&gt; I daresay the outside environment is different than that of an apartment in, say, Queen Anne. And while we may not have very hard-core winters compared to other regions, it certainly gets chilly -- and temperatures are getting more unpredictable due to climate change (witness this year&#039;s cool summer and often-cold fall).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but this is at <i>the top of the Smith Tower.</i> I daresay the outside environment is different than that of an apartment in, say, Queen Anne. And while we may not have very hard-core winters compared to other regions, it certainly gets chilly &#8212; and temperatures are getting more unpredictable due to climate change (witness this year&#8217;s cool summer and often-cold fall).</p>
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		<title>By: Coherent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920127</link>
		<dc:creator>Coherent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BoingBoing isn&#039;t attacking the guy, just regular random readers are.  I&#039;m just a viewer passing by.  If I think he&#039;s a douche, then that&#039;s the opinion of the random public based on his own actions.  Look, if someone objects to fair use with a takedown notice, replacing the fair use content with the takedown notice is exactly what should be done.  When you don&#039;t want someone doing something, you post a sign.  Well, Stuart got what he wanted and a sign was put up stating exactly why.  This is exactly what must happen.

My opinion of it is my own, and I can say what I like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BoingBoing isn&#8217;t attacking the guy, just regular random readers are.  I&#8217;m just a viewer passing by.  If I think he&#8217;s a douche, then that&#8217;s the opinion of the random public based on his own actions.  Look, if someone objects to fair use with a takedown notice, replacing the fair use content with the takedown notice is exactly what should be done.  When you don&#8217;t want someone doing something, you post a sign.  Well, Stuart got what he wanted and a sign was put up stating exactly why.  This is exactly what must happen.</p>
<p>My opinion of it is my own, and I can say what I like.</p>
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		<title>By: arborman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919620</link>
		<dc:creator>arborman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what a place to watch a blizzard from.</description>
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		<title>By: seachange</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919623</link>
		<dc:creator>seachange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s wishful thinking!</description>
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		<title>By: azaner</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919626</link>
		<dc:creator>azaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;ll bite: If she took the surname Lahaie (which appears to be the case), why doesn&#039;t this post simply say &quot;the Lahaie household,&quot; and why does the article refer to her as &quot;Ms. Franklin&quot;?  Is this a new thing?  If she wants to keep her birth name (Franklin, I guess?), more power to her.  But this is just downright confusing.

Reframed as a practical question: How would one know, looking at the name Petra Franklin Lahaie, to refer to her by Franklin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ll bite: If she took the surname Lahaie (which appears to be the case), why doesn&#8217;t this post simply say &#8220;the Lahaie household,&#8221; and why does the article refer to her as &#8220;Ms. Franklin&#8221;?  Is this a new thing?  If she wants to keep her birth name (Franklin, I guess?), more power to her.  But this is just downright confusing.</p>
<p>Reframed as a practical question: How would one know, looking at the name Petra Franklin Lahaie, to refer to her by Franklin?</p>
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		<title>By: hadlock</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919634</link>
		<dc:creator>hadlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main concern is that there&#039;s no insulation whatsoever. It&#039;s sort of like living in a very tall wooden packing crate. All the energy spent heating the top 30&#039; of that apartment is going to be wasted with the goal of heating the bottom 6&#039;. With zero insulation at the top they&#039;ll be bleeding off energy as fast as they can generate it, and that&#039;s assuming there&#039;s no wind blowing at 200+&#039; in the air that day. Summers are still going to be super hot up there, no shade on all sides, and it&#039;s doubtful that those windows open up. I grew up about 20 miles south of there actually, and fondly remember opening all the doors and windows in the house to keep it from getting hot in there. At least we had shade.

Not to mention: poor kid! &quot;I didn&#039;t have a yard to grow up in, my parents chose bragging rights to their friends over my childhood&quot;. What a miserable place to grow up. Maybe they named their kid &quot;Rapunzel&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main concern is that there&#8217;s no insulation whatsoever. It&#8217;s sort of like living in a very tall wooden packing crate. All the energy spent heating the top 30&#8242; of that apartment is going to be wasted with the goal of heating the bottom 6&#8242;. With zero insulation at the top they&#8217;ll be bleeding off energy as fast as they can generate it, and that&#8217;s assuming there&#8217;s no wind blowing at 200+&#8217; in the air that day. Summers are still going to be super hot up there, no shade on all sides, and it&#8217;s doubtful that those windows open up. I grew up about 20 miles south of there actually, and fondly remember opening all the doors and windows in the house to keep it from getting hot in there. At least we had shade.</p>
<p>Not to mention: poor kid! &#8220;I didn&#8217;t have a yard to grow up in, my parents chose bragging rights to their friends over my childhood&#8221;. What a miserable place to grow up. Maybe they named their kid &#8220;Rapunzel&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919638</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get the rubber horse swing from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=&amp;q=tire+horse+swing&amp;sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8#q=tire+horse+swing&amp;hl=en&amp;prmd=ivs&amp;source=univ&amp;tbs=shop:1&amp;tbo=u&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=product_result_group&amp;ct=title&amp;resnum=1&amp;fp=1&amp;cad=b&quot;&gt;any number of sources&lt;/a&gt;.  At my grandmother&#039;s house we have a particularly nice one (made from a recycled tire) hung from a giant tree like a traditional tire swing.  My 3yo LOVES it.  But the zipline idea is pretty darn good, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get the rubber horse swing from <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=&#038;q=tire+horse+swing&#038;sourceid=navclient-ff&#038;ie=UTF-8#q=tire+horse+swing&#038;hl=en&#038;prmd=ivs&#038;source=univ&#038;tbs=shop:1&#038;tbo=u&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=product_result_group&#038;ct=title&#038;resnum=1&#038;fp=1&#038;cad=b">any number of sources</a>.  At my grandmother&#8217;s house we have a particularly nice one (made from a recycled tire) hung from a giant tree like a traditional tire swing.  My 3yo LOVES it.  But the zipline idea is pretty darn good, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a place to watch a blizzard from, indeed...It would be like living in the inside of a snowglobe.</description>
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		<title>By: Prufrock451</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919640</link>
		<dc:creator>Prufrock451</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens when somebody breaks a leg? Does the whole family have to move to Grandma&#039;s for a couple of months?</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919641</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The windows do actually open up. That point is addressed both in the article and in the photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The windows do actually open up. That point is addressed both in the article and in the photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919389</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that is a wonderful home. It reminds me a bit of this clock tower condo in Brooklyn, which I always said would be a good lair for a time-themed super villain:

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/07/realestate/0809-deal-slideshow_index.html

I actually like this one better, though. I wonder how much it would cost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that is a wonderful home. It reminds me a bit of this clock tower condo in Brooklyn, which I always said would be a good lair for a time-themed super villain:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/07/realestate/0809-deal-slideshow_index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/07/realestate/0809-deal-slideshow_index.html</a></p>
<p>I actually like this one better, though. I wonder how much it would cost?</p>
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		<title>By: jheiss</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919646</link>
		<dc:creator>jheiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to echo spacemonkey, those folks talking about watching blizzards:  that doesn&#039;t happen in Seattle.  A little snow once in a while maybe, but blizzard?  That said, hadlock is probably right that heating/cooling the space is probably near impossible.  Our house in the Seattle area was very open with high ceilings, by the time you got the first floor warm the upstairs loft was unbearably hot.  And we had insulation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to echo spacemonkey, those folks talking about watching blizzards:  that doesn&#8217;t happen in Seattle.  A little snow once in a while maybe, but blizzard?  That said, hadlock is probably right that heating/cooling the space is probably near impossible.  Our house in the Seattle area was very open with high ceilings, by the time you got the first floor warm the upstairs loft was unbearably hot.  And we had insulation</p>
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		<title>By: moniker42</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919648</link>
		<dc:creator>moniker42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saddest ever. </description>
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		<title>By: papiermeister</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919394</link>
		<dc:creator>papiermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and this being Seattle, I note the obligatory Chihully chandelier. Lovely cobalt blue.
Smith Tower was once the tallest building west of the Missisip. Still had elevator operators running the ancient lifts when I was a bike messenger downtown back in the 80s- 90s. 
All said - that is one bitchin&#039; apartment there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and this being Seattle, I note the obligatory Chihully chandelier. Lovely cobalt blue.<br />
Smith Tower was once the tallest building west of the Missisip. Still had elevator operators running the ancient lifts when I was a bike messenger downtown back in the 80s- 90s.<br />
All said &#8211; that is one bitchin&#8217; apartment there!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-920162</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see nothing wrong with the photographer asking that the picture be removed, and with BB posting his request.

I think the photographer is an idiot, but that&#039;s his right.

I also think that BB could push the issue, if they wanted to do so, by posting a smaller or quality-degraded picture instead. That would make this case fall much more solidly under Fair Use. 

One could argue that what BB posted was only a small excerpt of the complete article, so Fair Use should apply either way. I think that argument might hold with respect to the NYT article itself, but from the photographer&#039;s point of view, each photograph is a work of art in itself, so reposting just one photograph is essentially reposting an entire work of art. So how do you &quot;excerpt&quot; a photograph? I think that showing just a thumbnail photograph that&#039;s only good for making you want to see the full-size version should be considered Fair Use.

Of course, that is *IF* BB really felt like taking this to the courts, and spend their time and money of litigation, as opposed to bringing us more yummy interwebs goodness...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see nothing wrong with the photographer asking that the picture be removed, and with BB posting his request.</p>
<p>I think the photographer is an idiot, but that&#8217;s his right.</p>
<p>I also think that BB could push the issue, if they wanted to do so, by posting a smaller or quality-degraded picture instead. That would make this case fall much more solidly under Fair Use. </p>
<p>One could argue that what BB posted was only a small excerpt of the complete article, so Fair Use should apply either way. I think that argument might hold with respect to the NYT article itself, but from the photographer&#8217;s point of view, each photograph is a work of art in itself, so reposting just one photograph is essentially reposting an entire work of art. So how do you &#8220;excerpt&#8221; a photograph? I think that showing just a thumbnail photograph that&#8217;s only good for making you want to see the full-size version should be considered Fair Use.</p>
<p>Of course, that is *IF* BB really felt like taking this to the courts, and spend their time and money of litigation, as opposed to bringing us more yummy interwebs goodness&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919652</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That said, hadlock is probably right that heating/cooling the space is probably near impossible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_heating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That said, hadlock is probably right that heating/cooling the space is probably near impossible.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_heating" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_heating</a></p>
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		<title>By: markjamesmurphy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919656</link>
		<dc:creator>markjamesmurphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been up there many times, including the inside of the bubble on top - but it was before the &#039;97 renovation.  I worked there as an elevator operator from around &#039;93 to &#039;96.  The article is wrong in saying that the apartment had been vacant for ten years.  The building&#039;s electrician lived there the whole time I was there.  At the time, the giant metal water tank was still up there.  The glass bubble and flagpole were added as an afterthought to make the building higher (when height was a real competition).  Consequently, a tunnel-like hole was roughly hewn up through the concrete.  The hole is so small you have to put your arms up into it first to climb up the rungs into the bubble... I could literally write a book about the crazy experiences I had while working there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been up there many times, including the inside of the bubble on top &#8211; but it was before the &#8217;97 renovation.  I worked there as an elevator operator from around &#8217;93 to &#8217;96.  The article is wrong in saying that the apartment had been vacant for ten years.  The building&#8217;s electrician lived there the whole time I was there.  At the time, the giant metal water tank was still up there.  The glass bubble and flagpole were added as an afterthought to make the building higher (when height was a real competition).  Consequently, a tunnel-like hole was roughly hewn up through the concrete.  The hole is so small you have to put your arms up into it first to climb up the rungs into the bubble&#8230; I could literally write a book about the crazy experiences I had while working there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Slowermo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919401</link>
		<dc:creator>Slowermo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes my house look like a pile of puke.</description>
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		<title>By: coop</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/10/24/smashing-apartment-h.html#comment-919413</link>
		<dc:creator>coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was out there this spring, and had an afternoon free. Did the tourist thing and went to the top of the tower. While I was there, I noticed the little bike in the &quot;back hall&quot; as it were, and smiled to think that some little kid had the opportunity to live there.

They put in a lot of work to kick it into shape.

I hope that they get to keep it for a good long time, and aren&#039;t kicked out by some developer who&#039;ll rent it out to someone who&#039;ll visit it three times a year - as one of their nine multi-million dollar homes.

coop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was out there this spring, and had an afternoon free. Did the tourist thing and went to the top of the tower. While I was there, I noticed the little bike in the &#8220;back hall&#8221; as it were, and smiled to think that some little kid had the opportunity to live there.</p>
<p>They put in a lot of work to kick it into shape.</p>
<p>I hope that they get to keep it for a good long time, and aren&#8217;t kicked out by some developer who&#8217;ll rent it out to someone who&#8217;ll visit it three times a year &#8211; as one of their nine multi-million dollar homes.</p>
<p>coop</p>
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