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	<title>Comments on: More tech-using time travelers spotted in archival film&#160;footage</title>
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		<title>By: TravelDude</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926724</link>
		<dc:creator>TravelDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough with cell phones. The woman from the early Chaplin video was obviously singing to an early prototype of the Sony Walkman. </description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-929541</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
The Chaplin film is a possibility.

The first video above is likely a depiction of an apple chewed all around.

The last video the n&#039;s don&#039;t match - indicates tampering.


Cap-Z-ro...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chaplin film is a possibility.</p>
<p>The first video above is likely a depiction of an apple chewed all around.</p>
<p>The last video the n&#8217;s don&#8217;t match &#8211; indicates tampering.</p>
<p>Cap-Z-ro&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pag</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926216</link>
		<dc:creator>Pag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Jobs had tried to suppress all evidence, but at last we have proof! He did not, in fact, invent the rounded rectangle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Jobs had tried to suppress all evidence, but at last we have proof! He did not, in fact, invent the rounded rectangle!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926473</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was entertaining. I laughed out loud. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was entertaining. I laughed out loud. :)</p>
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		<title>By: sapere_aude</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-927505</link>
		<dc:creator>sapere_aude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;... time travel would only be possible for 365 1/4 day intervals then, if the motion was static.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope.  Keep in mind that the sun is also moving, rotating around the center of the galaxy, dragging the Earth and the rest of the solar system along with it.  And the galaxy itself is also moving relative to other nearby galaxies due to their gravitational attraction (not counting the overall expansion of the universe).  Combine all of these motions, and the position of the Earth in space exactly 1 year from today will be nearly 20 billion kilometers from where it is today.  So, a time machine that displaces you in time but not in space is inevitably going to leave you floating somewhere in the void, quite some distance from Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230; time travel would only be possible for 365 1/4 day intervals then, if the motion was static.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope.  Keep in mind that the sun is also moving, rotating around the center of the galaxy, dragging the Earth and the rest of the solar system along with it.  And the galaxy itself is also moving relative to other nearby galaxies due to their gravitational attraction (not counting the overall expansion of the universe).  Combine all of these motions, and the position of the Earth in space exactly 1 year from today will be nearly 20 billion kilometers from where it is today.  So, a time machine that displaces you in time but not in space is inevitably going to leave you floating somewhere in the void, quite some distance from Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926226</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spacetime is defined by the mass in it, so it makes sense that moving through spacetime would keep you in a point relative to the mass that is defining it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spacetime is defined by the mass in it, so it makes sense that moving through spacetime would keep you in a point relative to the mass that is defining it.</p>
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		<title>By: tcforest</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926495</link>
		<dc:creator>tcforest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the final, clinching proof of time travel is the way the teacher points to the blackboard. She&#039;s holding her hand in the approved Apple iPhone 4 manner. She IS the time traveller!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the final, clinching proof of time travel is the way the teacher points to the blackboard. She&#8217;s holding her hand in the approved Apple iPhone 4 manner. She IS the time traveller!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926758</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jump to 3:16 to see the original scene without the poor comping of the blackboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy5FBLnh7o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jump to 3:16 to see the original scene without the poor comping of the blackboard.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy5FBLnh7o" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy5FBLnh7o</a></p>
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		<title>By: Donald Petersen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-927281</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unless the time travelers can take the entire cell phone infrastructure with them - towers, fiber, switched-packet networks, and all - it just won&#039;t work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is why you really have to enhance the volume to hear what she&#039;s saying:

&quot;Hello...?  Hello...?  Dammit Jobs, how do you expect me to pull off Operation: Grandpa Gates Bucket Kick with this half-assed... Hello?!  I &lt;b&gt;knew&lt;/b&gt; we shoulda listened to Woz.  He &lt;b&gt;told&lt;/b&gt; us to get OffMaps.  Come &lt;b&gt;on&lt;/b&gt;, show me some bars!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unless the time travelers can take the entire cell phone infrastructure with them &#8211; towers, fiber, switched-packet networks, and all &#8211; it just won&#8217;t work.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is why you really have to enhance the volume to hear what she&#8217;s saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hello&#8230;?  Hello&#8230;?  Dammit Jobs, how do you expect me to pull off Operation: Grandpa Gates Bucket Kick with this half-assed&#8230; Hello?!  I <b>knew</b> we shoulda listened to Woz.  He <b>told</b> us to get OffMaps.  Come <b>on</b>, show me some bars!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dainel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-927798</link>
		<dc:creator>dainel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times did the Giants play the Rangers, and end up with a score of 9 - 0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times did the Giants play the Rangers, and end up with a score of 9 &#8211; 0.</p>
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		<title>By: peacock</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926016</link>
		<dc:creator>peacock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect to see more of these posts when pot becomes legal in California.</description>
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		<title>By: Unmutual</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926018</link>
		<dc:creator>Unmutual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that second vid made my day

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that second vid made my day</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926275</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fools! There is only one answer!

Wait. . . . let me try that again. . .

YOU FOOLS THERE IS ONLY ONE ANSWER!!!!!!!
http://www.timecube.com/

There, that&#039;s better.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fools! There is only one answer!</p>
<p>Wait. . . . let me try that again. . .</p>
<p>YOU FOOLS THERE IS ONLY ONE ANSWER!!!!!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.timecube.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.timecube.com/</a></p>
<p>There, that&#8217;s better.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Unmutual</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926020</link>
		<dc:creator>Unmutual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we be sure the girl is a time traveler?

I mean maybe the film itself was produced in the future and then &lt;i&gt;it&lt;/i&gt; was sent back in time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we be sure the girl is a time traveler?</p>
<p>I mean maybe the film itself was produced in the future and then <i>it</i> was sent back in time?</p>
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		<title>By: msl87</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926023</link>
		<dc:creator>msl87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That second video is so phony! Black and white children sharing a classroom in the 1950&#039;s? Please!</description>
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		<title>By: bklynchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926279</link>
		<dc:creator>bklynchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was hilarious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: enkiv2</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926791</link>
		<dc:creator>enkiv2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully expect BoingBoing readers to be the first people to have time machines, and once they do, I fully expect them to go back and pull these sorts of stunts.

Time travel is really going to revolutionize trolling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully expect BoingBoing readers to be the first people to have time machines, and once they do, I fully expect them to go back and pull these sorts of stunts.</p>
<p>Time travel is really going to revolutionize trolling.</p>
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		<title>By: user23</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926282</link>
		<dc:creator>user23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is so a pre-release macbook air running os X leopard - CONFIRMED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is so a pre-release macbook air running os X leopard &#8211; CONFIRMED!</p>
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		<title>By: dumbeast</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-927053</link>
		<dc:creator>dumbeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I think she killed my grandpa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I think she killed my grandpa.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926798</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That writing on the blackboard is so similar to attempts to draw with a mouse. By the way, here&#039;s the original Duck and Cover video, with the segment at 3:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy5FBLnh7o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That writing on the blackboard is so similar to attempts to draw with a mouse. By the way, here&#8217;s the original Duck and Cover video, with the segment at 3:30: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy5FBLnh7o" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixy5FBLnh7o</a></p>
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		<title>By: irksome</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926031</link>
		<dc:creator>irksome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t someone please figure out a way to blame this on Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t someone please figure out a way to blame this on Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: eagleapex</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926032</link>
		<dc:creator>eagleapex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously not. There are no time travelers, because no one came to the time traveller convention: http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously not. There are no time travelers, because no one came to the time traveller convention: <a href="http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/" rel="nofollow">http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926035</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When does Forest Gump enter the frame to regale the students with a Ping-Pong demonstration? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When does Forest Gump enter the frame to regale the students with a Ping-Pong demonstration? </p>
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		<title>By: Jackasimov</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926037</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackasimov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK stupids. This is clearly fake, Apple didn&#039;t even use that logo in the 50s!

As for the woman talking on the cellphone at the Chaplain premiere...she&#039;s a prankster. She knew this footage would be seen by people in the future so she was faking talking on a cellphone to mess with future viewers. I mean think about how this would look to someone in the 70s. It would blow their minds! Luckily, cellphones have been around now for quite some time so we can easily explain this. 

pfft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK stupids. This is clearly fake, Apple didn&#8217;t even use that logo in the 50s!</p>
<p>As for the woman talking on the cellphone at the Chaplain premiere&#8230;she&#8217;s a prankster. She knew this footage would be seen by people in the future so she was faking talking on a cellphone to mess with future viewers. I mean think about how this would look to someone in the 70s. It would blow their minds! Luckily, cellphones have been around now for quite some time so we can easily explain this. </p>
<p>pfft.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926038</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most perplexes me is how the time traveler managed to do so and stay on Earth. With how fast Earth is moving through space, going back or forward in time even a minute would leave you in empty blackness and instantly kill you.

That&#039;s some impressive calculations and machinery if they were able to compensate for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most perplexes me is how the time traveler managed to do so and stay on Earth. With how fast Earth is moving through space, going back or forward in time even a minute would leave you in empty blackness and instantly kill you.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s some impressive calculations and machinery if they were able to compensate for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926041</link>
		<dc:creator>Xenu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is obviously fake, as they didn&#039;t have YouTube in those days.</description>
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		<title>By: Nylund</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926044</link>
		<dc:creator>Nylund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obviously not. There are no time travelers, because no one came to the time traveller convention: http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/&quot;

Just because I decide to throw a party for Obama doesn&#039;t mean I should actually expect him to come to my house.  And, in this case, since it was in the past (from their perspective), they already knew how lame the party would be.

You&#039;re also supposing that knowledge of the party lasted long enough to reach the people of the future.  Maybe the invitation got lost over the years, or do future people scour the future-internet in search of centuries old time travel party invitations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obviously not. There are no time travelers, because no one came to the time traveller convention: <a href="http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/" rel="nofollow">http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Just because I decide to throw a party for Obama doesn&#8217;t mean I should actually expect him to come to my house.  And, in this case, since it was in the past (from their perspective), they already knew how lame the party would be.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also supposing that knowledge of the party lasted long enough to reach the people of the future.  Maybe the invitation got lost over the years, or do future people scour the future-internet in search of centuries old time travel party invitations?</p>
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		<title>By: brillow</title>
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		<dc:creator>brillow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not you will see something weird depends highly on whether or not you&#039;ve been pre-conditioned to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not you will see something weird depends highly on whether or not you&#8217;ve been pre-conditioned to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/01/more-cellphone-using.html#comment-926048</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these videos - they&#039;re the geek equivalent of the lady in East Texas who finds a picture of Jesus and some angels in her grilled bologna and cheese.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these videos &#8211; they&#8217;re the geek equivalent of the lady in East Texas who finds a picture of Jesus and some angels in her grilled bologna and cheese.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s from 1923. Watch the dress! She traveld froward in time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s from 1923. Watch the dress! She traveld froward in time</p>
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