Comments on: U.S. government simultaneously pushing and warning against increased cheese consumption http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: DoctressJulia http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-933400 DoctressJulia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-933400 Shit, how many times did I just write 'awesome'? LOL Shit, how many times did I just write ‘awesome’? LOL

]]> By: Camp Freddie http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931896 Camp Freddie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931896 I submit that these is no cheese in America, just homogenised protein-rich industrial grade milk-fat extract. You'll know when you eat real cheese, because it actually tastes of something. </European elitism> Almost forgot, <elitism> Same goes for what Americans call chocolate</elitism> I submit that these is no cheese in America, just homogenised protein-rich industrial grade milk-fat extract. You’ll know when you eat real cheese, because it actually tastes of something.

Almost forgot,
Same goes for what Americans call chocolate

]]> By: QuantumLeap http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931904 QuantumLeap Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931904 Where I live (in the French-Swiss border by Geneva) drinking raw milk is pretty standard. No deaths or major illness outbreaks come from it AFAIK. Actually there are local dairy coops where farmers set up vending machines to sell raw milk directly to the public, and it's awesome. You know all the profit goes directly to the producers, and the taste is orders of magnitude better. Also the French do most of their cheese from unpasteurized milk, and that shows in the taste and texture. The versions you see in the US (even at places like Trader Joe's, which have a selection of Brie and Camembert) are the export, pasteurized version (because the FDA wouldn't allow it in the market otherwise). I lived in California for a few years and there I got food poisoning for the first time ever. Almost every year. There are frequent scares about lettuce, eggs, meat... I just don't see it here. Where I live (in the French-Swiss border by Geneva) drinking raw milk is pretty standard. No deaths or major illness outbreaks come from it AFAIK. Actually there are local dairy coops where farmers set up vending machines to sell raw milk directly to the public, and it’s awesome. You know all the profit goes directly to the producers, and the taste is orders of magnitude better.
Also the French do most of their cheese from unpasteurized milk, and that shows in the taste and texture. The versions you see in the US (even at places like Trader Joe’s, which have a selection of Brie and Camembert) are the export, pasteurized version (because the FDA wouldn’t allow it in the market otherwise).
I lived in California for a few years and there I got food poisoning for the first time ever. Almost every year. There are frequent scares about lettuce, eggs, meat… I just don’t see it here.

]]> By: jackm http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-932180 jackm Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-932180 For those of you who read international news, you might have noticed that there is an obesity epidemic in Mexico right now, as well as the UK. Both of these obesity epidemics are related to increased consumption of American-style processed products. I've been travelling back and forth between the US and UK since 2001, and even if I only spend a week over here and watch my diet, I gain 15 lbs. before I come back to the UK, where I promptly lose it. If I'm there for longer, I gain more! Something that Oprah commented on in O magazine-- if you eat vitamin and nutrient rich foods, you don't stay hungry. We have to keep eating because we're not getting the nutrition and vitamins we need. This is why we keep eating and eating American food even after we should be feeling full. I don't know what it will take to convince the US government that US agribusiness is fattening up the population faster than the witch in Hansel and Gretel. Empty calories without nutritional or vitamin content make up the bulk of foods sold in grocery stores and all but the most expensive restaurants. This all has a huge impact on our lives, energy levels, brain function, and self esteem. And it's even worse for children. They blame us for not having self-control, but how hard is it even to find a loaf of bread or a can of soup which doesn't have sugar or corn syrup in it? My ex-wife couldn't eat sugar, and you could imagine the grief that we went through to find anything she could actually eat in America! For those of you who read international news, you might have noticed that there is an obesity epidemic in Mexico right now, as well as the UK. Both of these obesity epidemics are related to increased consumption of American-style processed products.

I’ve been travelling back and forth between the US and UK since 2001, and even if I only spend a week over here and watch my diet, I gain 15 lbs. before I come back to the UK, where I promptly lose it. If I’m there for longer, I gain more!

Something that Oprah commented on in O magazine– if you eat vitamin and nutrient rich foods, you don’t stay hungry. We have to keep eating because we’re not getting the nutrition and vitamins we need. This is why we keep eating and eating American food even after we should be feeling full.

I don’t know what it will take to convince the US government that US agribusiness is fattening up the population faster than the witch in Hansel and Gretel. Empty calories without nutritional or vitamin content make up the bulk of foods sold in grocery stores and all but the most expensive restaurants.

This all has a huge impact on our lives, energy levels, brain function, and self esteem. And it’s even worse for children.

They blame us for not having self-control, but how hard is it even to find a loaf of bread or a can of soup which doesn’t have sugar or corn syrup in it? My ex-wife couldn’t eat sugar, and you could imagine the grief that we went through to find anything she could actually eat in America!

]]> By: hungryjoe http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-932693 hungryjoe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-932693 We've been shopping at Food Lion and Costco a lot recently, due to our various financial constraints. This past weekend we decided to do some grocery tourism, so we went to the Trader Joe's in Chapel Hill. It's the craziest damn thing. The customers in there were all normal-sized humans. Totally unlike the supersized ones at Food Lion and Costco. The US dietary problems are class problems. The classes aren't defined by annual income, but there is strong correlation. We’ve been shopping at Food Lion and Costco a lot recently, due to our various financial constraints. This past weekend we decided to do some grocery tourism, so we went to the Trader Joe’s in Chapel Hill.

It’s the craziest damn thing. The customers in there were all normal-sized humans. Totally unlike the supersized ones at Food Lion and Costco.

The US dietary problems are class problems. The classes aren’t defined by annual income, but there is strong correlation.

]]> By: Rayonic http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931927 Rayonic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931927 Personally, I'm waiting for all the 0-calorie totally artificial food to come out. We've already got fake sugar and fake fat, we just need fake protein and fake starch (and maybe fake other stuff I can't think of at the moment.) Then I can eat 3 normal meals a day and pig out on artificial junk food the rest of the time. Sure we'd be trading an obesity epidemic for an anorexia one, but that's probably better overall. Personally, I’m waiting for all the 0-calorie totally artificial food to come out. We’ve already got fake sugar and fake fat, we just need fake protein and fake starch (and maybe fake other stuff I can’t think of at the moment.)

Then I can eat 3 normal meals a day and pig out on artificial junk food the rest of the time. Sure we’d be trading an obesity epidemic for an anorexia one, but that’s probably better overall.

]]> By: Glenn Fleishman http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931672 Glenn Fleishman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931672 My grandfather was overweight for much of his life, and his mother was (he said) always on him about getting thinner. But when he ate at her house, which was often, she chivvied him to eat more. "Ma," he said, "I thought you wanted me to lose weight?" "Not in my house you diet," was her reply. This report sounds strangely familiar as a result. My grandfather was overweight for much of his life, and his mother was (he said) always on him about getting thinner. But when he ate at her house, which was often, she chivvied him to eat more. “Ma,” he said, “I thought you wanted me to lose weight?” “Not in my house you diet,” was her reply.

This report sounds strangely familiar as a result.

]]> By: middleclass http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931673 middleclass Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931673 The US government must immediately form and fund a task force to advocate for neutrality in government cheese policy. The US government must immediately form and fund a task force to advocate for neutrality in government cheese policy.

]]> By: Nadreck http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931674 Nadreck Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931674 The guberment can have my Cheese Doddles when they pry them from my cold, dead, orange hands. The guberment can have my Cheese Doddles when they pry them from my cold, dead, orange hands.

]]> By: soongtype http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931675 soongtype Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931675 I never imagined that there was such a large cheese conspiracy being carried out. Their tactics are surprisingly devious. I never imagined that there was such a large cheese conspiracy being carried out. Their tactics are surprisingly devious.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931677 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931677 I grew up being told of the health benefits of cheese, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3jgo5ea_zc">Time For Timer: "Hanker for a Hunk o' Cheese"</a>. Timer provided all kinds of "good" health advice, but that cheese slogan burned itself in my brain. I grew up being told of the health benefits of cheese, Time For Timer: “Hanker for a Hunk o’ Cheese”. Timer provided all kinds of “good” health advice, but that cheese slogan burned itself in my brain.

]]> By: Kosmoid http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931679 Kosmoid Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931679 Nutrition in the US is such a disaster. Why is the USDA tasked with creating the food pyramid as a nutritional guide when it also is working with special interests to sell more of their products? The latest incarnation is MyPyramid.gov which is inscrutable. They still lump together legumes, eggs, fish, poultry and red meat. They just turned the pyramid on its side, making it less understandable. The Harvard School of Public Health tries to do a better job with their pyramid: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/pyramid/ Nutrition in the US is such a disaster. Why is the USDA tasked with creating the food pyramid as a nutritional guide when it also is working with special interests to sell more of their products?

The latest incarnation is MyPyramid.gov which is inscrutable. They still lump together legumes, eggs, fish, poultry and red meat. They just turned the pyramid on its side, making it less understandable.

The Harvard School of Public Health tries to do a better job with their pyramid: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/pyramid/

]]> By: johnmcorg http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931680 johnmcorg Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931680 Maybe we should look to the past, to a time before the "obesity epidemic". How about we throw out the food pyramid and check the science behind it? How about looking, for once, at the big elephant made of wheat and corn in the room? How about we start eating real food again and not boxed junk from factories? I've done this and lost roughly 60lb. so far. I'm much healthier than I ever was before. There's nothing wrong with cheese. The human body needs fat, especially saturated fat, to survive and grow. Maybe we should look to the past, to a time before the “obesity epidemic”. How about we throw out the food pyramid and check the science behind it? How about looking, for once, at the big elephant made of wheat and corn in the room? How about we start eating real food again and not boxed junk from factories?

I’ve done this and lost roughly 60lb. so far. I’m much healthier than I ever was before. There’s nothing wrong with cheese. The human body needs fat, especially saturated fat, to survive and grow.

]]> By: soulveggie http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-932195 soulveggie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-932195 Hey, there's nothing wrong with our being the only species that drinks the mother's milk of another species! Besides, the quality of milk (and therefore cheese) is getting better. In 2009 there were less pus cells in milk, on average, than in 2008!! http://soulveggie.blogs.com/my_weblog/2010/09/update-milk-in-2009-contained-less-pus-than-2008-milk.html That should be encouraging news. Be even better if we drank pig or chimpanzee mother's milk, which is closer in nutritional profile to human milk than to a cow's. FYI, Mark Hey, there’s nothing wrong with our being the only species that drinks the mother’s milk of another species!

Besides, the quality of milk (and therefore cheese) is getting better. In 2009 there were less pus cells in milk, on average, than in 2008!!

http://soulveggie.blogs.com/my_weblog/2010/09/update-milk-in-2009-contained-less-pus-than-2008-milk.html

That should be encouraging news. Be even better if we drank pig or chimpanzee mother’s milk, which is closer in nutritional profile to human milk than to a cow’s.

FYI, Mark

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931684 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931684 Has the saying "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" ever been more fitting? I submit that it has not. Has the saying “the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing” ever been more fitting? I submit that it has not.

]]> By: heydemann3 http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931940 heydemann3 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931940 It's not that I like most American made cheeses, although there are a surprising number of really good small-scale producers these days, or that I think the government should be telling us what to eat, but I can see how the various parts of our administration could be doing different things that sometimes look to be at odds. On one hand, the USDA has been tasked with helping the population have a clue about what a "healthy" diet looks like and on the other hand they are asked to help producers promote their products. People seem to forget that it isn't government telling us "eat more cheese!", it's the government telling cheese producers how to market more cheese. Pizza, even overloaded 6-cheese crappy Domino's pizza, is perfectly ok if you have a slice or two once in a while. Eat an entire pizza for dinner every day and you'll be in trouble. Make a habit of eating foods overloaded with fat and sodium and you'll be in trouble even if those foods are all vegetables and legumes. Refried beans, flavored with lard and bacon, are no better for you than a burger. It’s not that I like most American made cheeses, although there are a surprising number of really good small-scale producers these days, or that I think the government should be telling us what to eat, but I can see how the various parts of our administration could be doing different things that sometimes look to be at odds. On one hand, the USDA has been tasked with helping the population have a clue about what a “healthy” diet looks like and on the other hand they are asked to help producers promote their products. People seem to forget that it isn’t government telling us “eat more cheese!”, it’s the government telling cheese producers how to market more cheese. Pizza, even overloaded 6-cheese crappy Domino’s pizza, is perfectly ok if you have a slice or two once in a while. Eat an entire pizza for dinner every day and you’ll be in trouble. Make a habit of eating foods overloaded with fat and sodium and you’ll be in trouble even if those foods are all vegetables and legumes. Refried beans, flavored with lard and bacon, are no better for you than a burger.

]]> By: Dan Mac http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-932452 Dan Mac Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-932452 Re: Canada and Cheese Evidently; Cheese is the #1 item stolen from Canadian grocery stores. Canadians are called "Cheeseheads" in Washington state as they are always buying massive amounts to take over the border. A friend and I managed to have the entire checkout staff in Safeway laugh out loud as we checked each of our 10 pounds of cheese through at the same time in Blaine. We added a couple of cases of cheap Merican beer and were pegged perfectly. Cheese and Dairy product prices are kept artificially high in Canada through high tariff walls, in order to subsidize the dairy farmers (mainly in Quebec). Typically, it is about 3 times the price as the states. Thieves target high end cheese: http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/greenman/archive/2010/04/20/thieves-target-high-end-cheese.aspx Cheese :The New "White Gold" in Canada http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/11/30/consumer-cheese-dairy.html Oh..and cheese does go on sale from time to time, where I live, it can be marked down up to 30%, usually one day before the "best before" end date on the package. Re: Canada and Cheese
Evidently;
Cheese is the #1 item stolen from Canadian grocery stores.
Canadians are called “Cheeseheads” in Washington state as they are always buying massive amounts to take over the border.
A friend and I managed to have the entire checkout staff in Safeway laugh out loud as we checked each of our 10 pounds of cheese through at the same time in Blaine. We added a couple of cases of cheap Merican beer and were pegged perfectly.
Cheese and Dairy product prices are kept artificially high in Canada through high tariff walls, in order to subsidize the dairy farmers (mainly in Quebec). Typically, it is about 3 times the price as the states.
Thieves target high end cheese:
http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/greenman/archive/2010/04/20/thieves-target-high-end-cheese.aspx
Cheese :The New “White Gold” in Canada
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/11/30/consumer-cheese-dairy.html
Oh..and cheese does go on sale from time to time, where I live, it can be marked down up to 30%, usually one day before the “best before” end date on the package.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931686 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931686 Thanks BoingBoing. I wanted a bedtime snack, and didn't know what to make. Now I'm having a grilled cheese sandwich. Thanks BoingBoing. I wanted a bedtime snack, and didn’t know what to make. Now I’m having a grilled cheese sandwich.

]]> By: Crashproof http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931948 Crashproof Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931948 Trying to find a good sharp cheddar is an exercise in futility, but around here even discount grocery stores (except for the really dodgy ones) have chevre, smoked gouda and so on. And I live in the Midwest. Life is too short to eat bad cheese. Trying to find a good sharp cheddar is an exercise in futility, but around here even discount grocery stores (except for the really dodgy ones) have chevre, smoked gouda and so on. And I live in the Midwest.

Life is too short to eat bad cheese.

]]> By: Emo Pinata http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931950 Emo Pinata Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931950 I read the article, and was promptly disappointed by poor writing. Luckily the content was engaging enough to continue on - if not fairly obvious to begin with. Did he really need to elaborate to an elementary school level? Dominoes pizza has tons of cheese. I know that means it's loaded with various fats and sodium, but you elaborate by saying it's full of saturated fats. Fine, but it crosses the line with "which has been linked to heart disease and is high in calories". I found the "add dairy to your healthy diet to loose more weight" campaign being supported by these guys really interesting. I read the article, and was promptly disappointed by poor writing. Luckily the content was engaging enough to continue on – if not fairly obvious to begin with. Did he really need to elaborate to an elementary school level? Dominoes pizza has tons of cheese. I know that means it’s loaded with various fats and sodium, but you elaborate by saying it’s full of saturated fats. Fine, but it crosses the line with “which has been linked to heart disease and is high in calories”.

I found the “add dairy to your healthy diet to loose more weight” campaign being supported by these guys really interesting.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931695 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931695 This cheese debacle offends all Canadians! lol This cheese debacle offends all Canadians! lol

]]> By: Cowicide http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931696 Cowicide Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931696 That's fantastic. Tell us more. That’s fantastic. Tell us more.

]]> By: Modusoperandi http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931698 Modusoperandi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931698 I'm waiting for the cheese version of the Double Down sandwich: A piece of cheese, with two different kinds of cheese and the Colonel's "secret" cheese, pinched in between two pieces of cheese. I’m waiting for the cheese version of the Double Down sandwich: A piece of cheese, with two different kinds of cheese and the Colonel’s “secret” cheese, pinched in between two pieces of cheese.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931954 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931954 The increase in recommended dairy was done by the first HHS Secretary under G.W. Bush, former Wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson. This was a pretty straightforward case of a cabinet official bringing home the bacon (or other farm products) back to his home state. The change was not based on any sort of information regarding dietary guidelines as far as I can tell. Having grown up in WI, I can tell you that if any food item uses "Wisconsin" in its description, it is not healthy for you. The increase in recommended dairy was done by the first HHS Secretary under G.W. Bush, former Wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson. This was a pretty straightforward case of a cabinet official bringing home the bacon (or other farm products) back to his home state. The change was not based on any sort of information regarding dietary guidelines as far as I can tell.

Having grown up in WI, I can tell you that if any food item uses “Wisconsin” in its description, it is not healthy for you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931958 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931958 Read the China Study. it's Fascinating! From experience the best advice for everything is your own independent research coupled together with common sense and reason. With the internet as your research tool, you can discover the truth about all diets and find one that best suite you and your goals. Think and make you own mind up, is the best advice. Read the China Study. it’s Fascinating!
From experience the best advice for everything is your own independent research coupled together with common sense and reason.
With the internet as your research tool, you can discover the truth about all diets and find one that best suite you and your goals.
Think and make you own mind up, is the best advice.

]]> By: Kosmoid http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931703 Kosmoid Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931703 It's all about cost and convenience. For a struggling family, they can't beat the cost per calorie of a $1 double cheeseburger from BK or McD. We don't have a recent tradition of what constitutes a good meal because of the emphasis on convenience and products having a long shelf life. Blame the microwave oven and Sandra Lee. Roger Ebert has many good suggestions about using a rice cooker to prepare meals conveniently. Check out his book about it. I don't think it ever works to give negative advice about food choices. Once you hear "don't eat french fries," the message goes right to the reptilian part of your brain, and the craving starts. It’s all about cost and convenience. For a struggling family, they can’t beat the cost per calorie of a $1 double cheeseburger from BK or McD.

We don’t have a recent tradition of what constitutes a good meal because of the emphasis on convenience and products having a long shelf life. Blame the microwave oven and Sandra Lee.

Roger Ebert has many good suggestions about using a rice cooker to prepare meals conveniently. Check out his book about it.

I don’t think it ever works to give negative advice about food choices. Once you hear “don’t eat french fries,” the message goes right to the reptilian part of your brain, and the craving starts.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931706 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931706 Cheese is great. But seriously, you eat a couple ounces of it, not a half pound. Part of the problem is that the cheese that gets promoted is bland and gets most of its flavor simply from being fatty. Government and industry aren't promoting cheese so much as they're promoting cheese-as-high-fat-ingredient-in-fast-food. Step away from the Velveeta burger and have some Valdeón with a crisp Asian pear. Cheese is great. But seriously, you eat a couple ounces of it, not a half pound. Part of the problem is that the cheese that gets promoted is bland and gets most of its flavor simply from being fatty. Government and industry aren’t promoting cheese so much as they’re promoting cheese-as-high-fat-ingredient-in-fast-food.

Step away from the Velveeta burger and have some Valdeón with a crisp Asian pear.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931708 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931708 Mice and humans both apparently live longer the less they consume. Overall message: short of overt anorexia, less is better. Also, avoiding other risks, no driving or walking on city streets, or risky contact with other people. Pick one: life or risk. Mice and humans both apparently live longer the less they consume. Overall message: short of overt anorexia, less is better. Also, avoiding other risks, no driving or walking on city streets, or risky contact with other people.

Pick one: life or risk.

]]> By: Modusoperandi http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931709 Modusoperandi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931709 <b>Antinous / Moderator</b> <i>"Cheese is great. But seriously, you eat a couple ounces of it, not a half pound."</i> <i>*Pbbt!*</i> Maybe over there in Europe! This is America! Here, we do things because we <i>can</i> not because we <i>should</i>! <i>"Step away from the Velveeta burger and have some Valdeón with a crisp Asian pear."</i> Well, la dee dah! "Lookit me! I got me some 'Valdeon' and a foreign pear!" Here in America, cheese comes in a spray can! Antinous / Moderator “Cheese is great. But seriously, you eat a couple ounces of it, not a half pound.”
*Pbbt!* Maybe over there in Europe! This is America! Here, we do things because we can not because we should!

“Step away from the Velveeta burger and have some Valdeón with a crisp Asian pear.”
Well, la dee dah! “Lookit me! I got me some ‘Valdeon’ and a foreign pear!” Here in America, cheese comes in a spray can!

]]> By: Jack http://boingboing.net/2010/11/07/us-government-simult.html#comment-931711 Jack Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-931711 What about the bizarre situation where High-Fructose Corn Syrup is predominant in U.S. foods thanks to corn farming subsidies, yet local governments (like in NY) are going out of their way to fund against “Sugary drinks.” Seems like the net result of this people who make slogans that go on posters are the big winners. Our taxes pay their salaries on both sides! What about the bizarre situation where High-Fructose Corn Syrup is predominant in U.S. foods thanks to corn farming subsidies, yet local governments (like in NY) are going out of their way to fund against “Sugary drinks.”

Seems like the net result of this people who make slogans that go on posters are the big winners. Our taxes pay their salaries on both sides!

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