Comments on: London dine-and-dashers skip out on $919 dinner http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 20:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Rayonic http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939777 Rayonic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939777 Hopefully this news story ends up getting the restaurant more business; enough to offset whatever losses they took. Unless they're full to capacity every night anyway. Hopefully this news story ends up getting the restaurant more business; enough to offset whatever losses they took.

Unless they’re full to capacity every night anyway.

]]> By: Neon Tooth http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940044 Neon Tooth Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940044 <i>"They are forgetting that they are really attacking the waiters, who don't have an enormous income."</i> Maybe you should pay them more... “They are forgetting that they are really attacking the waiters, who don’t have an enormous income.”

Maybe you should pay them more…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940052 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940052 No, the restaurant makes the server pay for the meal. No, the restaurant makes the server pay for the meal.

]]> By: peterbruells http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939797 peterbruells Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939797 Well, at least your sister had plausible deniability. "we were kidding, of course, otherwise we wouldn't have left our car keys, now would we?" Well, at least your sister had plausible deniability.

“we were kidding, of course, otherwise we wouldn’t have left our car keys, now would we?”

]]> By: The Mudshark http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940824 The Mudshark Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940824 All we've eaten for the last four bleeding weeks is lupin soup, roast lupin, steamed lupin, braised lupin in lupin sauce, lupin in the basket with sauted lupins, lupin meringue pie, lupin. sorbet... we sit on lupins, we sleep in lupins, we feed the cat on lupins, we burn lupins, we even wear the bloody things! All we’ve eaten for the last four bleeding weeks is lupin soup, roast lupin, steamed lupin, braised lupin in lupin sauce, lupin in the basket with sauted lupins, lupin meringue pie, lupin. sorbet… we sit on lupins, we sleep in lupins, we feed the cat on lupins, we burn lupins, we even wear the bloody things!

]]> By: hbl http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939815 hbl Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939815 That looks an awful lot like Time Restaurant critic Giles Coren. So I suppose the paywall is finally having a real world impact on Times expense accounts. (it's not him, just for the record. Unless it is, in which case, I KNEW it!) That looks an awful lot like Time Restaurant critic Giles Coren. So I suppose the paywall is finally having a real world impact on Times expense accounts.

(it’s not him, just for the record. Unless it is, in which case, I KNEW it!)

]]> By: mdh http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940072 mdh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940072 It's my experience that the only waitstaff at places with 1,000 dollar dinner tabs that are hurting for cash are those with outrageous drug habits. It's not the same thing as dashing from the $4.99 tab at Denny's where the waitstaff are paid $2.65/hour (without socialized healthcare) and have to pool their tips. Outrage at these two is simply misplaced. It’s my experience that the only waitstaff at places with 1,000 dollar dinner tabs that are hurting for cash are those with outrageous drug habits. It’s not the same thing as dashing from the $4.99 tab at Denny’s where the waitstaff are paid $2.65/hour (without socialized healthcare) and have to pool their tips.

Outrage at these two is simply misplaced.

]]> By: osmo http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940335 osmo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940335 HAhaha I love a good sneak off. A friend of mine survived a summer more or less by skipping out of fancy restuarants. She would always tell the cashier at McDonalds that they miscounted if they did that but any fancy restuarant was fair game to her. HAhaha I love a good sneak off. A friend of mine survived a summer more or less by skipping out of fancy restuarants. She would always tell the cashier at McDonalds that they miscounted if they did that but any fancy restuarant was fair game to her.

]]> By: CH http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940850 CH Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940850 Um... could somebody explain to me how this would be "stealing from the rich"? Rich people may dine at fancy restaurants, but a dine & dash is not stealing from them, it's stealing from the ones who run the restaurant, who may or may not be rich. Why would it be worse not paying at an ordinary diner compared to not paying at a fancy restaurant... the owner may be the same person. I think there is some kind of notion of stealing from "us" vs. stealing from "them", but the real target here isn't "us" and "them" that _eat_ there. Um… could somebody explain to me how this would be “stealing from the rich”?

Rich people may dine at fancy restaurants, but a dine & dash is not stealing from them, it’s stealing from the ones who run the restaurant, who may or may not be rich. Why would it be worse not paying at an ordinary diner compared to not paying at a fancy restaurant… the owner may be the same person. I think there is some kind of notion of stealing from “us” vs. stealing from “them”, but the real target here isn’t “us” and “them” that _eat_ there.

]]> By: Comedian http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939827 Comedian Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939827 My good man, I happen to know that this is the Lupin express. My good man, I happen to know that this is the Lupin express.

]]> By: benher http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940096 benher Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940096 Maybe he meant "Monkey Punch?" Maybe he meant “Monkey Punch?”

]]> By: gwailo_joe http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940352 gwailo_joe Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940352 If Jigen was there, somebody might have got shot. . .^^ But this idea that 'hey, stealing from the rich is cool'. . .just remember: there are -Billions- of hungry striving people around the world that would kill to have what you computer owning leisure having restaurant going first-worlders do. Should they? ('oh no don't steal from me! I'm nice and good and stuff: just steal from the really rich!') But that's not how it works. If Jigen was there, somebody might have got shot. . .^^

But this idea that ‘hey, stealing from the rich is cool’. . .just remember: there are -Billions- of hungry striving people around the world that would kill to have what you computer owning leisure having restaurant going first-worlders do.

Should they?

(‘oh no don’t steal from me! I’m nice and good and stuff: just steal from the really rich!’)

But that’s not how it works.

]]> By: Neon Tooth http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940365 Neon Tooth Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940365 False equivalence imho. False equivalence imho.

]]> By: Neon Tooth http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940367 Neon Tooth Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940367 <i>But this idea that 'hey, stealing from the rich is cool'.</i> Also much better than the idea that 'fealty to the rich is cool' if you ask me. But this idea that ‘hey, stealing from the rich is cool’.

Also much better than the idea that ‘fealty to the rich is cool’ if you ask me.

]]> By: MandoSpaz http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939865 MandoSpaz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939865 What, the flower Lupin? What, the flower Lupin?

]]> By: braininavat http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939889 braininavat Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939889 Isn't lupin the French word for rabbit? Isn’t lupin the French word for rabbit?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939890 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939890 Could be Professor Remus Lupin the werewolf from Harry Potter also... Could be Professor Remus Lupin the werewolf from Harry Potter also…

]]> By: Neon Tooth http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940147 Neon Tooth Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940147 ? I harbor no outrage to these two. I think there's an irony to the boss's statement. Why should the waitstaff be stiffed because of these two diners as opposed to the owners or bosses? Should a store that gets robbed take the loss out of an employee's paycheck? That's my point. See what I mean? Personally, I'm one of those annoying working class lefties who finds such extravagant conspicuous consumption kind of distasteful so I don't really have too much sympathy for the restaurant. ? I harbor no outrage to these two. I think there’s an irony to the boss’s statement. Why should the waitstaff be stiffed because of these two diners as opposed to the owners or bosses? Should a store that gets robbed take the loss out of an employee’s paycheck? That’s my point. See what I mean?

Personally, I’m one of those annoying working class lefties who finds such extravagant conspicuous consumption kind of distasteful so I don’t really have too much sympathy for the restaurant.

]]> By: Pantograph http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939652 Pantograph Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939652 As much as I would like to believe that they named themselves after a french fin-de-siecle literary figure, they probably referred to brash anime monkeyman Lupin III. As much as I would like to believe that they named themselves after a french fin-de-siecle literary figure, they probably referred to brash anime monkeyman Lupin III.

]]> By: akbar56 http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939911 akbar56 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939911 Who is the grandson of the original Lupin. Who is the grandson of the original Lupin.

]]> By: Stooge http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939665 Stooge Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939665 Where else but Boing Boing could you find someone who makes that assumption? Where else but Boing Boing could you find someone who makes that assumption?

]]> By: penguinchris http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939930 penguinchris Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939930 Of course the anime character is based on the literary character, and I think calling the anime character a "monkeyman" is a bit much... ...and I don't think you do something like this because you were inspired by an anime character (as good as Castle of Cagliostro may be). Not sure why you'd think that. Of course the anime character is based on the literary character, and I think calling the anime character a “monkeyman” is a bit much…

…and I don’t think you do something like this because you were inspired by an anime character (as good as Castle of Cagliostro may be). Not sure why you’d think that.

]]> By: axx http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939675 axx Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939675 Arsène Lupin, precisely. (Yes, diacritics really count in French :) If they chose that name as an announcement to L'Autre Pied (the Other Foot, really? that's the name of your restaurant?), then it's pretty neat. Well played, well played indeed. Arsène Lupin, precisely. (Yes, diacritics really count in French :)

If they chose that name as an announcement to L’Autre Pied (the Other Foot, really? that’s the name of your restaurant?), then it’s pretty neat.

Well played, well played indeed.

]]> By: bjacques http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939682 bjacques Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939682 Maybe they planned to pay with lupins hijacked from a stagecoach but came up short and were too embarrassed to stay. Maybe they planned to pay with lupins hijacked from a stagecoach but came up short and were too embarrassed to stay.

]]> By: Robert http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939939 Robert Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939939 So I guess if the Panopticon cameras don't get their men, could they release the video and say they had eaten cats? That would surely get them identified... So I guess if the Panopticon cameras don’t get their men, could they release the video and say they had eaten cats? That would surely get them identified…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939699 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939699 Awesome, this is the style of thieve I would be if I would be a thief. :) Awesome, this is the style of thieve I would be if I would be a thief. :)

]]> By: GyroMagician http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939705 GyroMagician Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939705 £165 for a three-course meal in a fancy London restaurant (sans wine) doesn't sound so steep. I wonder what they ate? £165 for a three-course meal in a fancy London restaurant (sans wine) doesn’t sound so steep. I wonder what they ate?

]]> By: planettom http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939711 planettom Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939711 Really? 265 American dollars for dinner for two (not counting the alcohol) seems reasonably steep. Really? 265 American dollars for dinner for two (not counting the alcohol) seems reasonably steep.

]]> By: Gyrofrog http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-939968 Gyrofrog Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-939968 I thought "Lupin" ("lupine"), lately overheard in Mayfair, was a Warren Zevon reference. I thought “Lupin” (“lupine”), lately overheard in Mayfair, was a Warren Zevon reference.

]]> By: SamSam http://boingboing.net/2010/11/16/london-dine-and-dash.html#comment-940225 SamSam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-940225 The difference is that waiters still get a large proportion of their income in tips, whereas store employees don't. That's the money the waiters are losing: the tip, not their paychecks. Should the manager give the waiters the tip that that table might have left, had they paid the bill and left a tip? The problem is of course that maybe waiters shouldn't have to rely so much on tips. In a place like the states where the average tip is somewhere around 15% (many people leave 20%, some leave none), if everyone stopped leaving tips the waiters would be hurting. This isn't the case in many places in Europe, where the waiters are well-paid and the tips are no more than a couple dollars. Then again, maybe that's why I often get pretty bad service in Italy. No one cares about the tips. The difference is that waiters still get a large proportion of their income in tips, whereas store employees don’t. That’s the money the waiters are losing: the tip, not their paychecks. Should the manager give the waiters the tip that that table might have left, had they paid the bill and left a tip?

The problem is of course that maybe waiters shouldn’t have to rely so much on tips. In a place like the states where the average tip is somewhere around 15% (many people leave 20%, some leave none), if everyone stopped leaving tips the waiters would be hurting. This isn’t the case in many places in Europe, where the waiters are well-paid and the tips are no more than a couple dollars.

Then again, maybe that’s why I often get pretty bad service in Italy. No one cares about the tips.

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