Understanding COICA, America's horrific proposed net-censorship bill

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  1. teapot says:

    “so to assert that his choices resulted in less negatives for the lives of Americans than Bush…”

    should read

    “so to assert that his choices resulted in less negatives for the lives of Americans than Obama…”

  2. zyodei says:

    I think the political takeaway is this: The Democratic Party is not, not your friend.

    Not that it’s WORSE than the GOP. But it is simply NOT better.

    The Democrats serve the corporations, just as the Republicans do. There are a few good apples, and some different rhetoric between the two..but expecting change by supporting democrats in general is simply foolish, and ignorant of history.

    The democrats are simply better at couching their pro-corporate initiatives in anti-corporate rhetoric.

    And for the record, as awful as Bush was, I would argue that Obama has pushed forward with more decisions that affect the lives of the average American negatively than Bush did, at least per year in office,

    As an aside, WTF does a truly momentous story like this have 16 comments and a story about a kid drinking piss have 85?

  3. Kevin Kenny says:

    Cory, when do we get a version of your infamous form letter at http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt to send to people who propose things like this?

    Gadzooks.

  4. turn_self_off says:

    with a VP that is straight out of the media corporations, not surprised at all.

    One party is backed by big oil and the MI complex, the other by big media.

  5. Anonymous says:

    It’s really depressing reading the opinions of the ill-informed, and un-informed on the COICA issue. Case in point: neither Pres. Obama, nor AG Holder initiated, nor support this proposed bill – the Legislative branch came up with it. Secondly, the standard presumption of innocence until proven guilty, and due process of law would not apply were this bill to become law. Third, there is no provision made for redress if a site is taken down without just cause. Fourth, blacklisting a U.S. based site would only slow down an infringing site briefly – until they could migrate to an off-shore host. Fifth, infringing content has a very short commercial shelf-life but content producers both want to deny support for EOL content, and protect their rights to it indefinitely. And sixth, as a society, do we really want to allow a person, (a corporation is technically considered a person in some cases) the right to prevent access to the Internet to another person based on a saying?

  6. Lancelot Link says:

    Johnphantom – This bill would have been introduced no matter who was the president.
    There is legally nothing Obama can do about this until it has passed both the Senate and the House.
    This is gradeschool-level civics. You should know this.

    • teapot says:

      This is gradeschool-level civics. You should know this.

      Don’t feed the trolls. John isn’t interested in anything but hoping to spread his simplistic opinion. How do we know this? No reply posts or interest in debate.

      Need I add to anti’s points that Bush introduced the Patriot act (though Obama does deserve vitriol for not reversing or weakening it), stymied the progress of medical science by banning stem cell research for 8 fucking years, (arguably on par with AIDS denialism in terms of impact on death rates) and pushed for his entire presidency to ignore gay rights to equality despite the fact he, personally has no issue with gay unions/partnerships and has gay friends. Um, and he started Iraq and Afghanistan… so to assert that his choices resulted in less negatives for the lives of Americans than Bush is obviously the position of a fool.

      Hey, until the republicans do ANYTHING constructive, you would have to be a diamond-class moron to vote for them. Their stated main aims for the next 2 years are:

      i) To reverse the health care bill (um.. why? America just somewhat caught up with the rest of the world and now these assholes want to put insurance companies in charge again? Just incase you didn’t realise, the American health care “system” is the laughing stock of the world).

      ii) To ensure President Obama is not elected for a second term.

      Sweet, this is going to be a really productive two years, isn’t it. If only the 5000 miles of water between my country and yours acted as a better buffer to America’s influence I wouldn’t care so much.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Holy shit, this is probably gonna happen :(

  8. Antinous / Moderator says:

    And for the record, as awful as Bush was, I would argue that Obama has pushed forward with more decisions that affect the lives of the average American negatively than Bush did, at least per year in office

    Dude, Bush suspended habeas corpus. Obama could eat a baby for breakfast every morning for eight years and Bush would still be worse.

    • Anonymous says:

      Bush was slammed for illegal wiretapping, and rightly so. Meanwhile, the Obama administration MURDERS U.S. citizens and no one says a peep about it. Not a peep! And if anyone thinks I’m joking, you better look it up. The ACLU is even currently suing the government over this.

      Democrats renewed the Patriot Act with flying colors, too. Change? Where?

  9. wygit says:

    I did the ‘Send a letter to your Senator” thing in October… and got this in return.

    “Thank you for writing to express your support for the “Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act.” I appreciate knowing of your support for this legislation.

    On September 20, 2010, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) introduced the “Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act” (S. 3804). You may be pleased to know that I am an original cosponsor of this bill….
    Sincerely yours,
    Dianne Feinstein
    United States Senator”

    Oh well… THAT did a lot of good…

    • IronEdithKidd says:

      Try your other Senator. Call each of their DC offices. Call their main in-state offices. Then write, by hand, a letter to each, on actual paper.

      I’ve heard time and again from activists that a hand-written letter is worth nearly 100 phone calls, or a couple hundred emails.

      • lyd says:

        [blockquote]I’ve heard time and again from activists that a hand-written letter is worth nearly 100 phone calls, or a couple hundred emails.[/blockquote]

        Or almost 1000 nonsense equations. Cripes.

  10. angusm says:

    Wow, a law that would allow the government to pre-emptively censor entire websites based on the say-so of a corporation? I can’t imagine how that could possibly be misused.

    The only thing it’s missing is anti-circumvention measures stipulating harsh penalties for anyone who tries to put their DNS out of reach of the government.

  11. AnthonyC says:

    At first, I really thought it said “Cloaca bill.” Which, really, would have been fitting.

  12. teapot says:

    This just takes me one step closer to setting up some of those real-world filesharing points like the dude in NYC. I mean, seriously… do they think this will fly? This could be the start of true anarchy!

    *crosses fingers*

  13. johnphantom says:

    Yeah I really see that “hope and change” now.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m not exactly an Obama fan either, but it would be a serious mistake to believe that this wouldn’t be happening if a Republican were president.

      Also, repeating pithy political slogans, it doesn’t do anyone any good. It just shows that you’re a sucker for propaganda.

      • johnphantom says:

        Yes, a if a Republican were president, this would happen. I voted for Obama so shit like this would stop happening. He was supposed to be the anti-thesis of Bush – yes I bought the propaganda. I pride myself on being able to read people, but I was suckered by Obama and I hate to admit that. Obama is a liar who is nothing but the left hand version of the right hand GWB, and this makes me angry.

        I never voted before Obama (I’m 41) and I am never going to vote again.

        • fr4nk says:

          You could always vote for the mythic “third-party,” who represents neither the left- or right-hand of Satan?

        • neologist says:

          The over-share on your voting history aside, a little word on how the government actually works: the executive branch does not craft legislation, Congress does. This bill has 17 co-sponsors, both Dems & Repubs. I agree that while this bill has serious flaws, your Crayola analysis doesn’t add much to our understanding of the bill and certainly doesn’t provide a path forward.

  14. EH says:

    It’s stuff like this that makes the ODF and open-source-in-government fights so important. Issues where the critique boils down to “Oh, you want everything to be free and nobody to be able sell software,” are the overreach that is partner to this one. The more you fight for openness wherever it comes up the more you head tyrannical stuff like this off at the pass.

  15. cbk says:

    I saw this post after reading about Canada’s version of this bill. It’s even more horrific:

    http://is.gd/hgwop [Toronto Star]

    I think we’re one-up on the digital police-state horror show competition.

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