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		<title>By: Jake0748</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944129</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake0748</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Dear Anon,
   Well, I did it.  I actually stole your words. I paraphrased and added some.  And emailed to the White House.  I hope you won&#039;t be angry... Just know that your words inspired me to actually try and express my opinion.  I hope you&#039;ll approve of what I wrote to the end that we share this struggle.  Below is the text I sent.

           Thank you,  Jake

                  ___________________________

&quot;Dear Mr. President,

 I&#039;ve never written to the President before.  I&#039;ve written to my Representatives and Senators a few times.  Once even with a semi-satisfying reply.
 But, I find that I must express my strong objection to the latest TSA procedures.  I would guess you know what I&#039;m referring to.  Invasive scans and physical searches which include people&#039;s most intimate body parts.  I find that I need to be convinced that these procedures do anything at all to make the general public safer.
 I believe that the American people have already spoken on whether we think it&#039;s acceptable to have strangers photograph us naked without our permission. And it&#039;s not, we have laws against that.
 The American people have already spoken on whether it&#039;s OK to have strangers touch our breasts, vaginas, penis, scrotum and rear ends without permission. Its not OK.  We have laws against that.
 We spend BILLIONS of tax Dollars that could go to rebuilding America... for what? To give SOME people a feeling of &quot;security&quot;? I sincerely believe that there is a strong argument to be made against treating everyone as a suspect. There must be a better way.  We are supposed to live in the Land of the Free!  
 Mrs. Obama once said she is finally proud to be American. Well today Mr. President, I am almost ashamed to be an American. And if you turn your back on us here, I will have to feel ashamed to have supported you.

  Please consider this.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Dear Anon,<br />
   Well, I did it.  I actually stole your words. I paraphrased and added some.  And emailed to the White House.  I hope you won&#8217;t be angry&#8230; Just know that your words inspired me to actually try and express my opinion.  I hope you&#8217;ll approve of what I wrote to the end that we share this struggle.  Below is the text I sent.</p>
<p>           Thank you,  Jake</p>
<p>                  ___________________________</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Mr. President,</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve never written to the President before.  I&#8217;ve written to my Representatives and Senators a few times.  Once even with a semi-satisfying reply.<br />
 But, I find that I must express my strong objection to the latest TSA procedures.  I would guess you know what I&#8217;m referring to.  Invasive scans and physical searches which include people&#8217;s most intimate body parts.  I find that I need to be convinced that these procedures do anything at all to make the general public safer.<br />
 I believe that the American people have already spoken on whether we think it&#8217;s acceptable to have strangers photograph us naked without our permission. And it&#8217;s not, we have laws against that.<br />
 The American people have already spoken on whether it&#8217;s OK to have strangers touch our breasts, vaginas, penis, scrotum and rear ends without permission. Its not OK.  We have laws against that.<br />
 We spend BILLIONS of tax Dollars that could go to rebuilding America&#8230; for what? To give SOME people a feeling of &#8220;security&#8221;? I sincerely believe that there is a strong argument to be made against treating everyone as a suspect. There must be a better way.  We are supposed to live in the Land of the Free!<br />
 Mrs. Obama once said she is finally proud to be American. Well today Mr. President, I am almost ashamed to be an American. And if you turn your back on us here, I will have to feel ashamed to have supported you.</p>
<p>  Please consider this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OrcOnTheEndOfMyFork</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944135</link>
		<dc:creator>OrcOnTheEndOfMyFork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since it happened at an airport within the D.C. Metro area, you would think that now the people on capital hill will take notice. I wonder how many congressmen have to go through these TSA scans, or do they get to skip past them?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a two-tiered system. If you&#039;re going on a private jet, you don&#039;t deal with any screening security at all (even though a private jet could potentially do as much damage as a commercial airliner). The TSA has &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2008-10-09-background_N.htm&quot;&gt;considered&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; giving private jet passengers a one-time &quot;background check&quot; but nowhere near the same level of groping and nudity the rest of us face. So as long as rich people get to circumvent the system, they&#039;re quite content to let the peasants suffer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since it happened at an airport within the D.C. Metro area, you would think that now the people on capital hill will take notice. I wonder how many congressmen have to go through these TSA scans, or do they get to skip past them?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a two-tiered system. If you&#8217;re going on a private jet, you don&#8217;t deal with any screening security at all (even though a private jet could potentially do as much damage as a commercial airliner). The TSA has <i><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2008-10-09-background_N.htm">considered</a></i> giving private jet passengers a one-time &#8220;background check&#8221; but nowhere near the same level of groping and nudity the rest of us face. So as long as rich people get to circumvent the system, they&#8217;re quite content to let the peasants suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944392</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there is even a funny side to this sad story:

The funny side is, that you Americans just TAKE IT. You let not only the government, but also other organisations shit on you from a great height.

Do you know that there is be a possibility to just stand up and say: &quot;That&#039;s enough now. We don&#039;t want anymore of this!&quot;

Things like these &quot;security measures&quot; are happening all over the globe. The difference is, if and how the public handles them. Suing the government (and winning), going on national strike, telling the government to get out and electing a new one. These are just some examples of what has been going on in good old europe over the past years.

You as the people descide how much you want to take and when the line is crossed. But americans just seem to cry and moan in the newspapers and on the internet instead of standing up and making it stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there is even a funny side to this sad story:</p>
<p>The funny side is, that you Americans just TAKE IT. You let not only the government, but also other organisations shit on you from a great height.</p>
<p>Do you know that there is be a possibility to just stand up and say: &#8220;That&#8217;s enough now. We don&#8217;t want anymore of this!&#8221;</p>
<p>Things like these &#8220;security measures&#8221; are happening all over the globe. The difference is, if and how the public handles them. Suing the government (and winning), going on national strike, telling the government to get out and electing a new one. These are just some examples of what has been going on in good old europe over the past years.</p>
<p>You as the people descide how much you want to take and when the line is crossed. But americans just seem to cry and moan in the newspapers and on the internet instead of standing up and making it stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944141</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soiled pants for a safer populace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soiled pants for a safer populace!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944143</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a colostomy (I poop into a bag). I was taken to a private room in Philadelphia the last time I visite the United States.  Obviously I wear oversize pants too, when taken to a back room - the &quot;nice screener&quot; (or me) accidenty unlocked the clip holding the bag closed.  I think the screener was as uncomfortable as I was, he sure had quite a bit of the brown goo on him.

He did not like me saying &quot;but this is the price for freedom, I might have had a bazooka in my colostomy bag&quot;)

But I COULD carry a pistol in the bag, or some drugs.. so it&#039;s best to be safe than sorry.  I am 55% disabled, so it&#039;s POSSIBLE that I could outwrestle a stewardess and hijack an American Airplane..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a colostomy (I poop into a bag). I was taken to a private room in Philadelphia the last time I visite the United States.  Obviously I wear oversize pants too, when taken to a back room &#8211; the &#8220;nice screener&#8221; (or me) accidenty unlocked the clip holding the bag closed.  I think the screener was as uncomfortable as I was, he sure had quite a bit of the brown goo on him.</p>
<p>He did not like me saying &#8220;but this is the price for freedom, I might have had a bazooka in my colostomy bag&#8221;)</p>
<p>But I COULD carry a pistol in the bag, or some drugs.. so it&#8217;s best to be safe than sorry.  I am 55% disabled, so it&#8217;s POSSIBLE that I could outwrestle a stewardess and hijack an American Airplane..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944656</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably because the gropesearch took so long that he would have missed his flight if he&#039;d stopped. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably because the gropesearch took so long that he would have missed his flight if he&#8217;d stopped. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944147</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time the TSA pats your junk, bin Laden pats himself on the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time the TSA pats your junk, bin Laden pats himself on the back.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944662</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you know that there is be a possibility to just stand up and say: &quot;That&#039;s enough now. We don&#039;t want anymore of this!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

People say shit like that all the time.

Free speech is nice, but it takes a lot &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; than that to change something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you know that there is be a possibility to just stand up and say: &#8220;That&#8217;s enough now. We don&#8217;t want anymore of this!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>People say shit like that all the time.</p>
<p>Free speech is nice, but it takes a lot <i>more</i> than that to change something.</p>
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		<title>By: george57l</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-945433</link>
		<dc:creator>george57l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you set off the metal detectors at a UK airport, the &quot;enhanced&quot; pat-down has been standard practice for over 15 years.&quot;

I&#039;ve set off plenty of detectors at airports in UK and been patted down many times as a result. And I&#039;ve never experienced a pat-down as &quot;robust&quot; as those now being described to us as now being done by TSA. It was a pat-down every time, not an intimate search - there is a real difference.
Read this, where the difference is explained.
http://www.hlswatch.com/2009/10/15/%E2%80%9Cdo-i-have-the-right-to-refuse-this-search%E2%80%9D/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you set off the metal detectors at a UK airport, the &#8220;enhanced&#8221; pat-down has been standard practice for over 15 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve set off plenty of detectors at airports in UK and been patted down many times as a result. And I&#8217;ve never experienced a pat-down as &#8220;robust&#8221; as those now being described to us as now being done by TSA. It was a pat-down every time, not an intimate search &#8211; there is a real difference.<br />
Read this, where the difference is explained.<br />
<a href="http://www.hlswatch.com/2009/10/15/%E2%80%9Cdo-i-have-the-right-to-refuse-this-search%E2%80%9D/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hlswatch.com/2009/10/15/%E2%80%9Cdo-i-have-the-right-to-refuse-this-search%E2%80%9D/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944155</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The regulatory fingers are everywhere -- not just in your pants at the airport. They&#039;re also in your medical records (new federal mandate to put all records on computer databases), in you Happy Meals, in your fireplace (can&#039;t start a fire on nights when the government says no, in some places), in your car, basically everywhere you move and everywhere you rest.

I hope and pray we reclaim at least some of our vanishing freedom in my lifetime.

The first step is to realize how much we&#039;ve lost, and how precious it is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you think freedom lives in a Happy Meal, then I think you&#039;re the one who&#039;s not quite clear on how much you&#039;ve lost, and how precious it was.  Imagining why there might be a legitimate public interest in regulating air pollution or automobile safety is left as an exercise for the reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The regulatory fingers are everywhere &#8212; not just in your pants at the airport. They&#8217;re also in your medical records (new federal mandate to put all records on computer databases), in you Happy Meals, in your fireplace (can&#8217;t start a fire on nights when the government says no, in some places), in your car, basically everywhere you move and everywhere you rest.</p>
<p>I hope and pray we reclaim at least some of our vanishing freedom in my lifetime.</p>
<p>The first step is to realize how much we&#8217;ve lost, and how precious it is.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you think freedom lives in a Happy Meal, then I think you&#8217;re the one who&#8217;s not quite clear on how much you&#8217;ve lost, and how precious it was.  Imagining why there might be a legitimate public interest in regulating air pollution or automobile safety is left as an exercise for the reader.</p>
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		<title>By: RS232</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944156</link>
		<dc:creator>RS232</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before 911 I was looking forward to visiting &#039;the land of the free&#039;, I mean I knew your country had faults but what country doesn&#039;t.
Soon after 911 The USA&#039;s foreign policy disgusted me so much I made sure I went boarding in Canada instead.
A few years later with a change of administration I felt that it wouldn&#039;t be long before I got the chance to travel &amp; experience the US of A. 
Once liberty had been put back in place that is.

Well I&#039;m sick of waiting and have come around to the fact that no intrusive pat-down by your border stasi is worth it.

Good thing your country doesn&#039;t need my tourist dollars. 

Extremists 1 USA 0
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before 911 I was looking forward to visiting &#8216;the land of the free&#8217;, I mean I knew your country had faults but what country doesn&#8217;t.<br />
Soon after 911 The USA&#8217;s foreign policy disgusted me so much I made sure I went boarding in Canada instead.<br />
A few years later with a change of administration I felt that it wouldn&#8217;t be long before I got the chance to travel &#038; experience the US of A.<br />
Once liberty had been put back in place that is.</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m sick of waiting and have come around to the fact that no intrusive pat-down by your border stasi is worth it.</p>
<p>Good thing your country doesn&#8217;t need my tourist dollars. </p>
<p>Extremists 1 USA 0</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dodds </title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944162</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dodds </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Noodlehead said. Apart from the bedwetting bit. </description>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944172</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorzdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lectroid brings-up a very valid concern here. Already, it&#039;s being played-up that airports can, in fact, use private firms instead of TSA to perform the security checks. As in competent as the TSA seems to be in this regard, the idea of some Blackwater or CCA-esque firm running the checkpoints is much more disturbing.

I think the issue is really more of training than anything. I seriously doubt any of the TSA workers want to be groping travellers&#039; junk. I can only imagine the thoughts of &quot;Can this job get any worse?&quot; that went through their heads when this new act of security-theater was announced. Add to that the low pay, monotonous work, and dealing with an already surly public, it&#039;s no wonder things like this happen.

What needs to change are the rules being hatched by TSA. The decision process that results in systems such as this. And training. Get the people on the front lines some real, thorough training. And pay them better. Even hookers get paid better to handle your junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lectroid brings-up a very valid concern here. Already, it&#8217;s being played-up that airports can, in fact, use private firms instead of TSA to perform the security checks. As in competent as the TSA seems to be in this regard, the idea of some Blackwater or CCA-esque firm running the checkpoints is much more disturbing.</p>
<p>I think the issue is really more of training than anything. I seriously doubt any of the TSA workers want to be groping travellers&#8217; junk. I can only imagine the thoughts of &#8220;Can this job get any worse?&#8221; that went through their heads when this new act of security-theater was announced. Add to that the low pay, monotonous work, and dealing with an already surly public, it&#8217;s no wonder things like this happen.</p>
<p>What needs to change are the rules being hatched by TSA. The decision process that results in systems such as this. And training. Get the people on the front lines some real, thorough training. And pay them better. Even hookers get paid better to handle your junk.</p>
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		<title>By: roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944435</link>
		<dc:creator>roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the TSA &quot;agents&quot; I&#039;ve seen, I suspect there wasn&#039;t much of any job they could&#039;ve landed otherwise.  To generalize, these are uneducated, textbook civil-servant types, of the same kind you see staffing any government agency, as clerks and counter &quot;help.&quot;  

&quot;Security guard,&quot; has a very low barrier to entry, if any restriction at all.  And, the TSA &quot;agents&quot; aren&#039;t armed, so having some black mark on your record isn&#039;t an impediment either.

What a miserable job, it&#039;s not much better than the &quot;job&quot; of sticking flyers in the faces of pedestrians.  I think doing yardwork/mowing actually requires more talent.

So, you take these kinds of people, command them to follow/enforce a list of pointless bureaucratic rules, and give them some &quot;authority.&quot;

Reminds me of that SouthPark Cartman cop character:  &quot;Obey my uh-thor-i-tay!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the TSA &#8220;agents&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen, I suspect there wasn&#8217;t much of any job they could&#8217;ve landed otherwise.  To generalize, these are uneducated, textbook civil-servant types, of the same kind you see staffing any government agency, as clerks and counter &#8220;help.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Security guard,&#8221; has a very low barrier to entry, if any restriction at all.  And, the TSA &#8220;agents&#8221; aren&#8217;t armed, so having some black mark on your record isn&#8217;t an impediment either.</p>
<p>What a miserable job, it&#8217;s not much better than the &#8220;job&#8221; of sticking flyers in the faces of pedestrians.  I think doing yardwork/mowing actually requires more talent.</p>
<p>So, you take these kinds of people, command them to follow/enforce a list of pointless bureaucratic rules, and give them some &#8220;authority.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reminds me of that SouthPark Cartman cop character:  &#8220;Obey my uh-thor-i-tay!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>I was looking forward to an extended holday in the USA which I have now deceided to cancell, as I refuse to put myself or my wife through the PORNOSCAN or the disgusting &quot;bits&quot; fondling by the TSA goons!
I am not a criminal!!!!!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking forward to an extended holday in the USA which I have now deceided to cancell, as I refuse to put myself or my wife through the PORNOSCAN or the disgusting &#8220;bits&#8221; fondling by the TSA goons!<br />
I am not a criminal!!!!!!!!! </p>
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		<title>By: Ben Gruagach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Gruagach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to bring the pornoscanner problem home for politicians would be to start up a fund to pay a bounty for pornoscanner pics of politicians.  It could be set up so that people could donate to the bounty-fund, kind of like how James Randi&#039;s million dollar bounty for proof of the paranormal used to work.

I&#039;m sure there are plenty of TSA employees who would be more than happy to cash in on the bounty by supplying pics.  Perhaps there could be a sliding pay scale with more money paid for pics of more prominent politicians.

The pics could be posted on a website.  Politicians shouldn&#039;t have anything to hide, should they?

For this to work of course the idea of the bounty existing (whether it does or not) would have to be widely publicized.  Want to spread the meme?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to bring the pornoscanner problem home for politicians would be to start up a fund to pay a bounty for pornoscanner pics of politicians.  It could be set up so that people could donate to the bounty-fund, kind of like how James Randi&#8217;s million dollar bounty for proof of the paranormal used to work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are plenty of TSA employees who would be more than happy to cash in on the bounty by supplying pics.  Perhaps there could be a sliding pay scale with more money paid for pics of more prominent politicians.</p>
<p>The pics could be posted on a website.  Politicians shouldn&#8217;t have anything to hide, should they?</p>
<p>For this to work of course the idea of the bounty existing (whether it does or not) would have to be widely publicized.  Want to spread the meme?</p>
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		<title>By: Kreender</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-945213</link>
		<dc:creator>Kreender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not in a hurry to go to USA anytime soon.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944191</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think the ruling class is going through the same security queues as the drones, I&#039;ve got a bridge I&#039;d be interested in selling you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think the ruling class is going through the same security queues as the drones, I&#8217;ve got a bridge I&#8217;d be interested in selling you.</p>
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		<title>By: roberts</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944454</link>
		<dc:creator>roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The regulatory fingers are everywhere -- not just in your pants at the airport. They&#039;re also in your medical records (new federal mandate to put all records on computer databases), in you Happy Meals, in your fireplace (can&#039;t start a fire on nights when the government says no, in some places), in your car, basically everywhere you move and everywhere you rest.

    I hope and pray we reclaim at least some of our vanishing freedom in my lifetime.

    The first step is to realize how much we&#039;ve lost, and how precious it is.&quot;

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&quot;If you think freedom lives in a Happy Meal, then I think you&#039;re the one who&#039;s not quite clear on how much you&#039;ve lost, and how precious it was. Imagining why there might be a legitimate public interest in regulating air pollution or automobile safety is left as an exercise for the reader.&quot;

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You said it. That &quot;happy meal&quot; comment undoubtedly came from a Tea Party&#039;er or &quot;Libertarian&quot; who believes the &quot;free market&quot; will _always_ solve everything, and that corporations and individuals should be able to harm anyone/anything they please.

&quot;I hope and pray&quot;?

Prayer: How to do nothing, and still think you&#039;re helping.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The regulatory fingers are everywhere &#8212; not just in your pants at the airport. They&#8217;re also in your medical records (new federal mandate to put all records on computer databases), in you Happy Meals, in your fireplace (can&#8217;t start a fire on nights when the government says no, in some places), in your car, basically everywhere you move and everywhere you rest.</p>
<p>    I hope and pray we reclaim at least some of our vanishing freedom in my lifetime.</p>
<p>    The first step is to realize how much we&#8217;ve lost, and how precious it is.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you think freedom lives in a Happy Meal, then I think you&#8217;re the one who&#8217;s not quite clear on how much you&#8217;ve lost, and how precious it was. Imagining why there might be a legitimate public interest in regulating air pollution or automobile safety is left as an exercise for the reader.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>You said it. That &#8220;happy meal&#8221; comment undoubtedly came from a Tea Party&#8217;er or &#8220;Libertarian&#8221; who believes the &#8220;free market&#8221; will _always_ solve everything, and that corporations and individuals should be able to harm anyone/anything they please.</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope and pray&#8221;?</p>
<p>Prayer: How to do nothing, and still think you&#8217;re helping.</p>
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		<title>By: tokira</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944204</link>
		<dc:creator>tokira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to Anon, comment #69...
I&#039;ve considered that (just taking it all off, right there in front of God and everybody).  The fact that I, a conservative 70 year old lady would consider such a thing says a lot about how outraged and offended I am by this BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Anon, comment #69&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve considered that (just taking it all off, right there in front of God and everybody).  The fact that I, a conservative 70 year old lady would consider such a thing says a lot about how outraged and offended I am by this BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944462</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how I (almost) wish I still had my ostomy bag. (for this one reason) It was hell but it would almost be worth it to empty it in the screening area. Half a liter if shit on the floor would make the rest of their day almost as much fun as the people they are molesting are having. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how I (almost) wish I still had my ostomy bag. (for this one reason) It was hell but it would almost be worth it to empty it in the screening area. Half a liter if shit on the floor would make the rest of their day almost as much fun as the people they are molesting are having. </p>
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		<title>By: bklynchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944213</link>
		<dc:creator>bklynchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to think that once the liberties of straight white men were as grotesquely infringed upon as those who are not, there would be a sense of national empathy that would change the tides of discrimination.

All I can think now is that Obama will be definitely be out of office come 2012.  How long before the GOP turns this against the Democrats?  Its like Anthony Burgess&#039; &quot;The Wanting Seed&quot;.

THis is crazy.  I don&#039;t know what I would do if I saw someone suffer such indignities.  Let alone the agents (please don&#039;t throw things at me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to think that once the liberties of straight white men were as grotesquely infringed upon as those who are not, there would be a sense of national empathy that would change the tides of discrimination.</p>
<p>All I can think now is that Obama will be definitely be out of office come 2012.  How long before the GOP turns this against the Democrats?  Its like Anthony Burgess&#8217; &#8220;The Wanting Seed&#8221;.</p>
<p>THis is crazy.  I don&#8217;t know what I would do if I saw someone suffer such indignities.  Let alone the agents (please don&#8217;t throw things at me).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944470</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or does anyone else think these extra security procedures are going to find 10000x more drug smugglers than terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or does anyone else think these extra security procedures are going to find 10000x more drug smugglers than terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Ipo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944215</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is horrible, but do you guys ever post anything non-tsa related these days?&lt;/i&gt;
To find out you could go check this page:
&lt;a href=&quot;&quot;&gt;http://5z8.info/back-to-africa_m1g8y_alqaeda-message-boards&lt;/a&gt;

You know, almost the entire internet consists of pages &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; about this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is horrible, but do you guys ever post anything non-tsa related these days?</i><br />
To find out you could go check this page:<br />
<a href="">http://5z8.info/back-to-africa_m1g8y_alqaeda-message-boards</a></p>
<p>You know, almost the entire internet consists of pages <b>not</b> about this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: str1cken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944225</link>
		<dc:creator>str1cken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... And I&#039;m proud to be an American! Where at least I know I&#039;m free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; And I&#8217;m proud to be an American! Where at least I know I&#8217;m free!</p>
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		<title>By: DeWynken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-943970</link>
		<dc:creator>DeWynken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor bastard. 

Let&#039;s keep feeding this beast. TSA must be held accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor bastard. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep feeding this beast. TSA must be held accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-945762</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked at LHR, UK.  One of my roles was to vet employees for security passesso I had to be very aware and knowledgable about the security measures.  Going through security was the same for the staff as it was for passengers.  
I once went to a supervisor to complain that the staff entrance was not fully manned and was made to go through the passenger security three times in her attempt to humiliate me, with the shoes off etc.  These people are so full of themselves that they do not like being told that they are in the wrong.
On another occaision, I became alarmed when the person in front of me turned out to be an unescorted passenger and I brought this up with the security staff and was completely blanked.  Luckily the last member of staff on the machine noticed and made the passenger wait for an escort to the baggage hall. 
It has been reported this year that some security staff at LHR were picking on some minor celebrities as they jetted from Ireland to Heathrow frequently and always seemed to be randomly chosen to endure pat downs etc, once again it seems that the rotten lot of supervisors endorse this type of behaviour from their staff.

I would not say that all security people are terrible as I have many friends at the airport working for BAA who are very professional and respectful.  But when the minority who cock up and act like thugs towards passengers are protected by their management it makes me dispair, I have had a couple of arguements over who knows their job better, them or me!  I think that says it all really, they are out to please themselves not to provide a service.

And the security guy from Heathrow, shame on you for not being trained on how to handle medical equipment such as ostomy bags and disability aids.  That should be a priority rather than an afterthought and why could you not communicate with Japanese passenger?  My retail unit boasted several languages spoken by sales staff from Chinese and even basic Japanese as well as most european and indian languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked at LHR, UK.  One of my roles was to vet employees for security passesso I had to be very aware and knowledgable about the security measures.  Going through security was the same for the staff as it was for passengers.<br />
I once went to a supervisor to complain that the staff entrance was not fully manned and was made to go through the passenger security three times in her attempt to humiliate me, with the shoes off etc.  These people are so full of themselves that they do not like being told that they are in the wrong.<br />
On another occaision, I became alarmed when the person in front of me turned out to be an unescorted passenger and I brought this up with the security staff and was completely blanked.  Luckily the last member of staff on the machine noticed and made the passenger wait for an escort to the baggage hall.<br />
It has been reported this year that some security staff at LHR were picking on some minor celebrities as they jetted from Ireland to Heathrow frequently and always seemed to be randomly chosen to endure pat downs etc, once again it seems that the rotten lot of supervisors endorse this type of behaviour from their staff.</p>
<p>I would not say that all security people are terrible as I have many friends at the airport working for BAA who are very professional and respectful.  But when the minority who cock up and act like thugs towards passengers are protected by their management it makes me dispair, I have had a couple of arguements over who knows their job better, them or me!  I think that says it all really, they are out to please themselves not to provide a service.</p>
<p>And the security guy from Heathrow, shame on you for not being trained on how to handle medical equipment such as ostomy bags and disability aids.  That should be a priority rather than an afterthought and why could you not communicate with Japanese passenger?  My retail unit boasted several languages spoken by sales staff from Chinese and even basic Japanese as well as most european and indian languages.</p>
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		<title>By: manicbassman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944227</link>
		<dc:creator>manicbassman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sadly, thay&#039;ve already though of it and done a pre-emptive end run around your constitution by declaring these security screening areas to be extra territorial and not subject to the constitution or any other laws of the United states except for those laws they themselves want applied so they can cow you into submission... the ADA doesn&#039;t apply because apparently, these ares are not on US soil unless they want to apply a US law against you... weird isn&#039;t it...

your fundamental human rights acts don&#039;t apply in these areas either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sadly, thay&#8217;ve already though of it and done a pre-emptive end run around your constitution by declaring these security screening areas to be extra territorial and not subject to the constitution or any other laws of the United states except for those laws they themselves want applied so they can cow you into submission&#8230; the ADA doesn&#8217;t apply because apparently, these ares are not on US soil unless they want to apply a US law against you&#8230; weird isn&#8217;t it&#8230;</p>
<p>your fundamental human rights acts don&#8217;t apply in these areas either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-944229</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens when you take people who normally you only have to deal with when they bag your groceries and give them a uniform and some power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when you take people who normally you only have to deal with when they bag your groceries and give them a uniform and some power.</p>
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		<title>By: knowles</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/11/20/tsa-security-groping.html#comment-943974</link>
		<dc:creator>knowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who wears a belt to the airport?</description>
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