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	<title>Comments on: UK supergroup records 4&#039;33&quot;, hopes to top Xmas&#160;charts</title>
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		<title>By: secretlab</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-965130</link>
		<dc:creator>secretlab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I awoke from a nightmare once in which James Earl Jones and Brian Eno had collaborated on &quot;Indeterminacy.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: jhhl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964363</link>
		<dc:creator>jhhl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now&#039;s the time to read Kyle Gann&#039;s new book &quot;NO SUCH THING AS SILENCE: John Cage&#039;s 4&#039;33:&quot;, 
which tells the history of this piece, Cage&#039;s background and ideas for it, how it became a touchstone of twentieth century art. Amazon has pages from it in &quot;Look Inside&quot; if you want a quick look. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now&#8217;s the time to read Kyle Gann&#8217;s new book &#8220;NO SUCH THING AS SILENCE: John Cage&#8217;s 4&#8217;33:&#8221;,<br />
which tells the history of this piece, Cage&#8217;s background and ideas for it, how it became a touchstone of twentieth century art. Amazon has pages from it in &#8220;Look Inside&#8221; if you want a quick look. </p>
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		<title>By: secretlab</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-965133</link>
		<dc:creator>secretlab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I awoke from a nightmare once in which James Earl Jones and Brian Eno had collaborated on &quot;Indeterminacy.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Wham</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964117</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert Wham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too late for the the current festivities I suppose, but let&#039;s try for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_HOYk9ED9Q/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;  next year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late for the the current festivities I suppose, but let&#8217;s try for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_HOYk9ED9Q/">this</a>  next year?</p>
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		<title>By: RainyRat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964125</link>
		<dc:creator>RainyRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@George_R: It&#039;s OK, &lt;a hreaf=&quot;http://www.metro.co.uk/music/849680-pete-doherty-snubs-cage-against-the-machines-anti-x-factor-recording&quot;&gt;he didn&#039;t show up for the session&lt;/a&gt;.  Unsurprising, really, but also kind of a shame: if he&#039;d been there, you could actually have heard the sound of him wasting oxygen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@George_R: It&#8217;s OK, <a hreaf="http://www.metro.co.uk/music/849680-pete-doherty-snubs-cage-against-the-machines-anti-x-factor-recording">he didn&#8217;t show up for the session</a>.  Unsurprising, really, but also kind of a shame: if he&#8217;d been there, you could actually have heard the sound of him wasting oxygen.</p>
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		<title>By: HeavyManners</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964128</link>
		<dc:creator>HeavyManners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Usonia - &quot;Shuffling? Breathing? Hardly bloody silence then innit?&quot;

Old thing, you labour under a misapprehension (albeit one abetted by lazy journalists)...

&quot;Although commonly perceived as &quot;four minutes thirty-three seconds of silence&quot;, the piece actually consists of the sounds of the environment that the listeners hear while it is performed.&quot;

&quot;Cage&#039;s musical equivalent to the Rauschenberg paintings uses the &quot;silence&quot; of the piece as an aural &quot;blank canvas&quot; to reflect the dynamic flux of ambient sounds surrounding each performance; the music of the piece is natural sounds of the players, the audience, the building, and the outside environment.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Usonia &#8211; &#8220;Shuffling? Breathing? Hardly bloody silence then innit?&#8221;</p>
<p>Old thing, you labour under a misapprehension (albeit one abetted by lazy journalists)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Although commonly perceived as &#8220;four minutes thirty-three seconds of silence&#8221;, the piece actually consists of the sounds of the environment that the listeners hear while it is performed.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Cage&#8217;s musical equivalent to the Rauschenberg paintings uses the &#8220;silence&#8221; of the piece as an aural &#8220;blank canvas&#8221; to reflect the dynamic flux of ambient sounds surrounding each performance; the music of the piece is natural sounds of the players, the audience, the building, and the outside environment.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hbl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964135</link>
		<dc:creator>hbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure xfactor has ever created an &#039;ear-worm&#039; - an &#039;ear-fluke&#039;, perhaps, but an ear worm? That&#039;s a benefit of the doubt I&#039;m not prepared to give those purveyors of hack karaoke swill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure xfactor has ever created an &#8216;ear-worm&#8217; &#8211; an &#8216;ear-fluke&#8217;, perhaps, but an ear worm? That&#8217;s a benefit of the doubt I&#8217;m not prepared to give those purveyors of hack karaoke swill.</p>
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		<title>By: petezombie</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964391</link>
		<dc:creator>petezombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both, the sound engineer&#039;s alteration of the recording in post production would be a another stage. Listening to recorded sound involves listening to a multiplicity of different acoustic and temporal spaces in combination. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both, the sound engineer&#8217;s alteration of the recording in post production would be a another stage. Listening to recorded sound involves listening to a multiplicity of different acoustic and temporal spaces in combination. </p>
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		<title>By: jphilby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964139</link>
		<dc:creator>jphilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to go outdoors and listen to &#039;Cage&#039;s&#039; 4:33.

Before Cage wrote it.

Personally, I say he&#039;s taking composer credit for a cover version.

That&#039;s not very Zen.

Going outside for a smoke, will have another listen, see how much &#039;Cage&#039; I can hear in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to go outdoors and listen to &#8216;Cage&#8217;s&#8217; 4:33.</p>
<p>Before Cage wrote it.</p>
<p>Personally, I say he&#8217;s taking composer credit for a cover version.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not very Zen.</p>
<p>Going outside for a smoke, will have another listen, see how much &#8216;Cage&#8217; I can hear in it.</p>
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		<title>By: JonStewartMill</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964171</link>
		<dc:creator>JonStewartMill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, the idea of actually &quot;performing&quot; a piece that&#039;s really no more than a thought experiment is the kind of thing that gives modern art a bad name, though I grant it&#039;s not as egregious as Manzoni selling &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_shit&quot;&gt;cans of his own shit&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, the idea of actually &#8220;performing&#8221; a piece that&#8217;s really no more than a thought experiment is the kind of thing that gives modern art a bad name, though I grant it&#8217;s not as egregious as Manzoni selling <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_shit">cans of his own shit</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: irksome</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964954</link>
		<dc:creator>irksome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gawd, I hate cover versions. They&#039;re never as good as the original.</description>
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		<title>By: UncaScrooge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964719</link>
		<dc:creator>UncaScrooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I am dedicated follower of contemporary classical music, most of Cage&#039;s output usually left me pretty cold.  Then I read his book &quot;Silence&quot;.  That opened my mind and opened my ears.  Anyone can enjoy what that book has to offer:  A world of unheard music that plays eternally.  4&#039;33&quot; can be a joke or a gateway to bliss -- it&#039;s up to the listener.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I am dedicated follower of contemporary classical music, most of Cage&#8217;s output usually left me pretty cold.  Then I read his book &#8220;Silence&#8221;.  That opened my mind and opened my ears.  Anyone can enjoy what that book has to offer:  A world of unheard music that plays eternally.  4&#8217;33&#8243; can be a joke or a gateway to bliss &#8212; it&#8217;s up to the listener.</p>
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		<title>By: George_R</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964211</link>
		<dc:creator>George_R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RainyRat - how predictable! What a cock-end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RainyRat &#8211; how predictable! What a cock-end.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-963956</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s cool!</description>
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		<title>By: Pip_R_Lagenta</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964479</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip_R_Lagenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put a YouTube video up of my friends doing 4&#039;33&quot; live.  I think that a live recording is closer to (my understanding of) John Cage&#039;s concept than a studio recording could be. This is, as I understand it, because 4&#039;33&quot; is not about silence, it is about ambiance. That is, ambiance of where the listener is, not where the musicians are.  The ambiance of my video is of Nabolom Bakery in Berkeley, California.  On a Saturday morning, Nabolom Bakery is a happening place.  That is the kind of ambiance that people might enjoy.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rlZqJnXWKI
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put a YouTube video up of my friends doing 4&#8217;33&#8243; live.  I think that a live recording is closer to (my understanding of) John Cage&#8217;s concept than a studio recording could be. This is, as I understand it, because 4&#8217;33&#8243; is not about silence, it is about ambiance. That is, ambiance of where the listener is, not where the musicians are.  The ambiance of my video is of Nabolom Bakery in Berkeley, California.  On a Saturday morning, Nabolom Bakery is a happening place.  That is the kind of ambiance that people might enjoy.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rlZqJnXWKI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rlZqJnXWKI</a></p>
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		<title>By: theLadyfingers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-963968</link>
		<dc:creator>theLadyfingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKBorVwi0I&quot;&gt;I&#039;m voting for Kunt.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKBorVwi0I">I&#8217;m voting for Kunt.</a></p>
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		<title>By: owza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-963972</link>
		<dc:creator>owza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope they play this on commercial radio. They can
totally replace Chris Moyles show with it, he&#039;s with Kunt as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope they play this on commercial radio. They can<br />
totally replace Chris Moyles show with it, he&#8217;s with Kunt as well.</p>
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		<title>By: 2k</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964489</link>
		<dc:creator>2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now why did I read that as &#039;X-Factor TV pogrom&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now why did I read that as &#8216;X-Factor TV pogrom&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964238</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking that that piece was specifically geared to the context of people trying to appreciate &quot;serious&quot; music at a concert, so it&#039;s a little different conceptually than just going outside and listening to sounds (although I&#039;m 100% sure Cage was all for that too and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s more enjoyable on the whole).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking that that piece was specifically geared to the context of people trying to appreciate &#8220;serious&#8221; music at a concert, so it&#8217;s a little different conceptually than just going outside and listening to sounds (although I&#8217;m 100% sure Cage was all for that too and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s more enjoyable on the whole).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;d rather listen to 
John Lennon&#039;s Nutopian International Anthem.
(Great fidelity on the remastered version of Mind Games!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;d rather listen to<br />
John Lennon&#8217;s Nutopian International Anthem.<br />
(Great fidelity on the remastered version of Mind Games!)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964245</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that if a form of art doesn&#039;t have a &quot;bad name&quot; with some people than it&#039;s hardly worth participating in. For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m a musician and that&#039;s my favorite piece of music, so it&#039;s got a good name with me, at least!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that if a form of art doesn&#8217;t have a &#8220;bad name&#8221; with some people than it&#8217;s hardly worth participating in. For what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;m a musician and that&#8217;s my favorite piece of music, so it&#8217;s got a good name with me, at least!</p>
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		<title>By: Shay Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are those the sounds in the recording, or the sounds in the environment of the one listening to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are those the sounds in the recording, or the sounds in the environment of the one listening to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where will the proceeds go? Or will they sell it for Â£0.01 or something, just to really demolish the X-Factor winner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where will the proceeds go? Or will they sell it for Â£0.01 or something, just to really demolish the X-Factor winner?</p>
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		<title>By: beemoh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964515</link>
		<dc:creator>beemoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I&#039;m the only person in the world that thinks the whole &#039;LETS GET A JOKE SONG IN TEH CHARTS TO PISS OFF SIMON COWELL LOL&quot; thing is unbelievably childish, then?

The fact that all these &#039;credible&#039; (read: less popular) artists are still able to record, and that all their recordings are still available and didn&#039;t immediately cease to function when The X Factor first started shows that what Cowell and his chums get up to *just doesn&#039;t matter*.

You know, if you want to run some sort of counter-contest or selection process where you all get behind one artist that conforms to whatever arbitrarily-selected measure of quality you&#039;ve got in your head in the run up to Christmas, then that&#039;s fine. But let&#039;s get behind something for what it is- good music- rather than what it isn&#039;t, purely to annoy someone it&#039;s trendy not to like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m the only person in the world that thinks the whole &#8216;LETS GET A JOKE SONG IN TEH CHARTS TO PISS OFF SIMON COWELL LOL&#8221; thing is unbelievably childish, then?</p>
<p>The fact that all these &#8216;credible&#8217; (read: less popular) artists are still able to record, and that all their recordings are still available and didn&#8217;t immediately cease to function when The X Factor first started shows that what Cowell and his chums get up to *just doesn&#8217;t matter*.</p>
<p>You know, if you want to run some sort of counter-contest or selection process where you all get behind one artist that conforms to whatever arbitrarily-selected measure of quality you&#8217;ve got in your head in the run up to Christmas, then that&#8217;s fine. But let&#8217;s get behind something for what it is- good music- rather than what it isn&#8217;t, purely to annoy someone it&#8217;s trendy not to like.</p>
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		<title>By: funksg</title>
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		<dc:creator>funksg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming on this a few days late, but I don&#039;t think I saw anybody mention the artist Mike Batt, who was sued for copyright infringement when he &quot;covered&quot; this song on an album. They settled out of court and the amount wasn&#039;t disclosed, but it was in the six-figure range. It&#039;s by far one of the most ridiculous lawsuits ever. And we thought what U2 and it&#039;s masters did to Negativland was silly, this takes the cake. The letter U and the numeral 2 came off as assholes after that incident. They seemed to support Negativland, at least when they were forced to talk about it, but didn&#039;t have big enough bonos to stop the wheel once it started spinning. Was it the same with Cage? I would think he had more control over his works than the rock rop U2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming on this a few days late, but I don&#8217;t think I saw anybody mention the artist Mike Batt, who was sued for copyright infringement when he &#8220;covered&#8221; this song on an album. They settled out of court and the amount wasn&#8217;t disclosed, but it was in the six-figure range. It&#8217;s by far one of the most ridiculous lawsuits ever. And we thought what U2 and it&#8217;s masters did to Negativland was silly, this takes the cake. The letter U and the numeral 2 came off as assholes after that incident. They seemed to support Negativland, at least when they were forced to talk about it, but didn&#8217;t have big enough bonos to stop the wheel once it started spinning. Was it the same with Cage? I would think he had more control over his works than the rock rop U2.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964286</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>both, I&#039;d say</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>both, I&#8217;d say</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Weidenbaum</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964551</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Weidenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jhhl Yeah, the Kyle Gann overview of 4&#039;33 is a great thing -- thorough about its origins, performance, and legacy. 

Also recommended from this year: Kenneth Silverman&#039;s sizable new Cage biography, titled Begin Again (Knopf).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jhhl Yeah, the Kyle Gann overview of 4&#8217;33 is a great thing &#8212; thorough about its origins, performance, and legacy. </p>
<p>Also recommended from this year: Kenneth Silverman&#8217;s sizable new Cage biography, titled Begin Again (Knopf).</p>
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		<title>By: usonia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964044</link>
		<dc:creator>usonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shuffling? Breathing? Hardly bloody silence then innit?</description>
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		<title>By: George_R</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964051</link>
		<dc:creator>George_R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for subverting the mainstream etc blah blah - but they&#039;ve made one fatal error in this: they&#039;ve included Pete Doherty. I hate him (actual hate), and therefore I hope this effort fails miserably. Fuck off Pete, you disgusting oxygen thief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for subverting the mainstream etc blah blah &#8211; but they&#8217;ve made one fatal error in this: they&#8217;ve included Pete Doherty. I hate him (actual hate), and therefore I hope this effort fails miserably. Fuck off Pete, you disgusting oxygen thief.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/12/09/uk-supergroup-record.html#comment-964054</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is already a campaign to make Surfin&#039; Bird the #1 instead of X-Factor which is far more likely to succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is already a campaign to make Surfin&#8217; Bird the #1 instead of X-Factor which is far more likely to succeed.</p>
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