Julian Assange's OK Cupid dating profile

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  1. g0d5m15t4k3 says:

    I can imagine a reply “Hey baby, A/S/L?”

  2. ultranaut says:

    It’s really incredible to see the corporate media pushing this story. It’s on the front page of MSNBC! WTF?!

    • TenInchesTaller says:

      What, you thought the mainstream media wouldn’t do everything in their power to de-emphasize the actual leaks and then make Assange look like a fool?

  3. Anonymous says:

    Clearly the profile of a misogynist ass. Love the whole part about women not being able to do math… or something. Ugh. Douche.

    • Cowicide says:

      Clearly the profile of a misogynist ass. Love the whole part about women not being able to do math… or something. Ugh. Douche.

      Yeah, the person who posted this is awful and so are the douche bags that keep assuming it’s Assange without evidence.

      Here’s lookin’ at you.

  4. T Nielsen Hayden says:

    Sounds like filling out the form was an alcohol-related incident.

  5. The Life Of Bryan says:

    What I’m doing with my life
    Directing a consuming, dangerous human rights project which is, as you might expect, male dominated. Variously professionally involved in international journalism/books, documentaries, cryptography, intelligence agencies, civil rights, political activism, white collar crime and the internet. Formal background in neuroscience, mathematics, physics and philosophy.

    What are the odds that even 1% of the women reading that profile believed even 1% of that paragraph?

  6. Anonymous says:

    AWESOME!
    i wonder what other historical figures online dating accounts would look like if they lived in 2011?
    a man has needs, what is there to say?

    • eviladrian says:

      i wonder what other historical figures online dating accounts would look like if they lived in 2011?

      Thomas Jefferson would just need an eBay profile…

  7. Aloisius says:

    *Waits for all the messages he sent to people on OKCupid to be posted to Wikileaks*

    • teapot says:

      *Waits for all the messages he sent to people on OKCupid to be posted to Wikileaks*

      That would be a clever comment, except for the fact that US citizens’ tax dollars weren’t used to pay for Assange’s OkCupid posts. Try comparing oranges with oranges next time.

  8. Jason Rizos says:

    At a time of war, releasing this profile on Assange is nothing short of Treason.

  9. Anonymous says:

    I was on internet dating sites back then. If I’d ever met someone with as interesting a profile as Assange, I would have replied like a shot. Unfortunately he and I used different sites :D

    Sure, I would have discounted the ‘international man of mystery’ stuff to a degree. In practice though it turned out to be true (no way of knowing for sure about the teengirl stalkers, of course). A lot of people who have a problem with this self-description are not seeing exactly what, I guess, the ‘Harry Harrison’ handle was supposed to tell you–that (if this is Assange) he meant much of what he wrote to be read _ironically_, not literally. Trouble is, he chose an author read mostly by male geeks. And now fame has put him way out of reach of ordinary ‘human women’ like us anyway.

  10. franko says:

    CupidLeaks scandal!

  11. Anonymous says:

    pretty pathetic. sometimes it’s better to be invisible if you can only share a shallow side. stick with the leaks of others, julian, not yourself!!

  12. Anonymous says:

    Wasn’t Harry Harrison the judge on “Night Court”?

  13. Anonymous says:

    [Assuming it is real, even though I don't know if it is or not]

    Something I need to point out is that just as English-speaking nations have different accents and spelling, they also have differences in their sense of humour. Americans often don’t get Australian humour; and it goes the other way too unless the Australians were brought up on an exclusive diet of American TV (which I wasn’t).

    Some of the humour in that profile is obvious, e.g. hello to the stalkers, but I see plenty more there and much of it is sending himself up at the same time as being honest.

    And yeah, I would join the Suburban Housewives for Julian Fan Club, the senior citizen’s branch of it. Sigh.

  14. hbl says:

    Government baiting pioneers of digital human rights activists are deserving of love, or getting some freaky strange.

  15. vancouvergrrl says:

    I’m *not* convinced this is legit, but that picture is really going for the Sting look (before Sting started going for the Joaquin Phoenix look).

    “Harry Harrison” is the name of the SF writer responsible for the Stainless Steel Rat, but you knew that.

  16. EH says:

    Word on the street is hoax.

    • Guillaume Filion says:

      I thought so too but his profile page shows that his last login is from 2006.

      Unless someone hacked OkCupid to changed their login date, it’s a hell of a long shot to make a hoax in 2006 in hope that Assange will be internationally known someday!

    • Xeni Jardin says:

      Word from the CEO of OK Cupid is that it’s not.

      • slk says:

        Uh, I have worked with sites and databases for a long time and spoofing or changing data, like timestamps and IP addresses, is quite easy. Plus, CEO’s never lie, right? Especially not for publicity!

        Not saying it might not be true, but given the circumstances of the current situation, it’s possibly a fake. Unless Julian can claim it was his, there’s no real definitive proof otherwise… or can we get his browser history from back then?

  17. Anonymous says:

    It’s about what I would expect from this guy. I’ve always had the impression that Assange was all about Assange, and was more into wikileaks as a way to affirm his own awesomeness than out of any sense of purpose. Like Eliot Spitzer in the pre-hooker, sheriff-of-Wall-Street days, he was a self-important douchebag doing the right thing. The gun-camera footage from US strikes on Iraqi civilians, for instance, needed to be seen.

    Up until the State Department leaks he was a self-important douchebag doing the right thing. Torpedoing American diplomacy made him a self-important douchebag doing the wrong thing who deserves to be nailed to the goddamned wall (and if America was half the evil-power he and his V-mask wearing compatriots think it is, he would be splattered all over it.)

    • Cowicide says:

      …Assange was all about Assange … affirm his own awesomeness than out of any sense of purpose. Like Eliot Spitzer ….s elf-important … douchebag … self-important …. douchebag … Torpedoing American diplomacy … self-important … douchebag … doing the wrong thing … deserves to be nailed to the goddamned wall …

      I wonder, Anon. What the fuck have you ever done for the world? What risks have you ever taken for the betterment of the world?

      Please… don’t cough on your Cheetos in an orange cloud of rage as I ponder this.

    • teapot says:

      I’ve always had the impression that Assange was all about Assange, and was more into wikileaks as a way to affirm his own awesomeness than out of any sense of purpose.

      Oh, good… now we know what some Anon internet floater thinks. I’m glad I woke up today.

      Torpedoing American diplomacy made him a self-important douchebag doing the wrong thing who deserves to be nailed to the goddamned wall

      You wouldn’t happen to be a Right-leaning American, would you? Assange may be the figurehead of Wikileaks but, even as he is incarcerated, Wikileaks continues to publish your precious diplomatic secrets. So who do you hate, Wikileaks or Assange? Because even if Assange is brought under control, Wikileaks and their work will still continue. Assange has provided a template.

      People seem to be conflating his personality with his actions which is just ridiculous. Roman Polanski is KNOWN to have done fucked up shit, yet the world continues to watch and buy his films. Chairman and CEO of Union Carbide (in 1984) Warren Anderson lives free in America, despite being undeniably responsible for the deaths of at least 11,000 people and injuries to 500,000 more in Bhopal. Fuck your shitty excuse for “diplomacy”, asshole.

      I haven’t seen anything … to suggest that Assange is anything other then an intelligent person trying to make sense of the fucked up situation we find ourselves in and actually try to make a difference.

      Agreed. I have never seen such an unashamed display of tall poppy syndrome – Governments, the media and the public are all in on the action and, frankly, it looks pathetic. Having and expressing a strong opinion does not make you a douche, but it does tend to shake-up fragile &/or egocentric people.

      As to the authenticity of this profile? I think it’s legit. Tin eye suggests that only 1 of the 5 pics on his profile are published elsewhere.

      This is the one which is everywhere:
      http://www.tineye.com/search/5e91374a8c5ecae5021bbe641957be378f5ec59b/

      These are the ones that are not:
      http://www.tineye.com/search/6e9f77161c88e8238c562c468156a3a9ca5108fa/
      http://www.tineye.com/search/f1bd0f64e80bb437079d27b966a65566c626b628/
      http://www.tineye.com/search/c93bbc152bcb530e0b4163140da6b220eefb832a/
      http://www.tineye.com/search/0c8fc08845746782b7c0836af7804d9838da0f88/

      • Anonymous says:

        For the record, I’m about as far to the left as it’s possible to go without falling off the edge (though some of my relatives would claim I’m a bit further than that).

        However I also know a bit about diplomacy. In many ways, diplomacy is all about lying. Diplomats lie to one another, they know they’re lying and the people they lie to know they’re lying. It’s a fig leaf that allows nations to retain a modicum of pride without having to go go war with each other. This is not to suggest that all lies between governments are good or valid, but many of them are. (The US’s “One China” policy, for instance, is a patently ridiculous falsehood, but one which has allowed the US and China to not go to war over Taiwan). Laying bare those lies makes diplomacy more difficult, which makes conflicts more likely.

        As for anonymity, I think the story that we’re both commenting on here demonstrates the hazards of putting easily-identifiable information about oneself online. You never know when it’ll come back to embarrass you.

        • teapot says:

          Assange the man sounds like a dickwad.

          @holtt: Give me some quotes that are 100% guaranteed to have come from Assange that lead to your conclusion. “cos he hurt ‘merica” is not an acceptable answer.

          @haggidubious: NP. My boss doesn’t pay me for nothing

          @rastronomicals: I made no promises to be “adult” (Oh, and I think you mean “civil”). My point was that I hear a lot of noise about how this jeopardises US diplomacy, but I don’t see many examples of why America’s poor excuse for diplomacy is something worth protecting. US diplomacy seems pretty much on par with that of a schoolyard bully (even to allies).

          Did you see the cables re: recommendations to Australian military about purchasing. They ran to the extent of “Australia would get better value for military expenditure if they shopped at USAmart instead of propping up crappy local industry”. Well, what if we want the R&D and what if we don’t want to support your industrial death machine (which has made a lot of Bush’s rethuglican pals very rich)?

          @anon: The US’s “One China” policy, for instance, is a patently ridiculous falsehood, but one which has allowed the US and China to not go to war over Taiwan

          So isn’t this ‘diplomacy’ just a way of avoiding differences in the hope that they go away? Aren’t these disagreements bound to come to a head at some point if the two parties involved have immovable moral positions on the matter? Or are US diplomats just hoping that China forgets about Taiwan… cos I can really imagine that happening.

          As for anonymity, I think the story that we’re both commenting on here demonstrates the hazards of putting easily-identifiable information about oneself online.

          That’s why I suggest you choose a single worded generic common noun as your handle. Go ahead.. google teapot and see how much of my personal information or how many of my accounts you can find (good luck).

      • haggidubious says:

        Thanks teapot, for slapping down the judgemental dickheads. You saved me some serious time there!

    • JG says:

      “I’ve always had the impression that Assange was all about Assange”

      Well, yes, this is the guy who a decade ago was signing all his messages “Prof. Julian Assange” (Google it.)

  18. gws says:

    Okay, this is hilarious. Hi-lar-i-ous. Profile pic is the cutest. He’s taken all the good tests. I don’t know what else to say. 42 tests. Wow.

  19. Anonymous says:

    harry harrison?

    slipperly jim di griz? aka the stainless steel rat? neat handle considering.

  20. mkultra says:

    Hmm, well leaving aside WL and the wisdom or lack thereof of their actions… guy seems like a bit of a d-bag. I know I wouldn’t want to hang out with someone who would write something like that. (Assuming this is real.)

  21. unmoris says:

    I submitted this yesterday, yet no submitterator love in spite of several votes.
    /grumble

    That said, last login was Dec 2006. It would take some Radar O’Reilly or H.G Wellian skills to pull a hoax like this off.

  22. unmoris says:

    Bah, I should probably sign in and not post anonymously if I want to take credit for a submission.

  23. nehpetsE says:

    Holy shit! He is David Spade in “Just Shoot Me”!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHv35jdsP80

  24. wingedearth says:

    Is that a photo of Julian Assange or David Spade?

  25. darren says:

    Judging by the work Assange has actually written himself, I get the impression that he’s kind of a douche.

  26. Lobster says:

    Turn ons: Surprise Sex

  27. salsaman says:

    If not fake…

    Christ, what an asshole.

    • wrybread says:

      “Christ what an asshole”

      How so? He strikes me as unusually honest for an online dating profile, which says a lot about him. And he’s looking for a “smart and brave” woman, which strikes me as admirable. Its not like he posted saying he wants a busty 18yo who’s not going to ask too many questions.

      And besides, this was 2006, the golden year for online dating.

      Don’t get me wrong, this is definitely embarassing for him, but it could be WAY worse.

  28. satablank says:

    Wow, almost makes me want to dig out my old okcupid account to check our compatibility lolol

  29. jennybean42 says:

    I have been in love with Julian Assange ever since he turned up on my radar with his TED talk. The funny thing is, this just made me like him all that much more.

    I need to start a “Suburban Housewives for Julian” fanclub or something..

  30. happytweak says:

    I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this, but for me, it says “last login dec. 31, 2006″. Which, you realize, is New Years Eve? I don’t know if it says the same thing for everyone around the world.

  31. happytweak says:

    Augh. That wasn’t the end!
    Anyway, New Years Eve, celebrated world wide, people get schwasted, he collapses onto the internet somewhere, is possibly also stoned, and decides, “fuck it, I’m bored enough. It might even make me giggle.”

  32. Laroquod says:

    Well the fact that there is an OKcupid profile for Assange that was created in 2006 clearly proves that it is Assange’s actual profile, according to the because-I-said-so rule from Logic 101.

    Also, participating in dating clearly proves that Assange is a douchebag, for who but an utter douchebag would be looking for love? Good people don’t have sex; or if they do it’s entirely by accident and not due to any actions they specifically took to achieve the goal of having sex, for that would make them douchebags, and therefore, not good people.

    If Assange wanted us to take him seriously, clearly he would do nothing in his life except leak leaks and give interviews and would not attempt to put his fingers on any of our human women.

    And with that I conclude my summary of the thought processes of approximately half the posters on this thread, and in fact, everywhere.

    • Cowicide says:

      If Assange wanted us to take him seriously, clearly he would do nothing in his life except leak leaks and give interviews and would not attempt to put his fingers on any of our human women.

      Us? Speak for yourself. On the other hand, your words are just farting in the wind. No one cares. You are ineffective, insignificant, useless… meanwhile Assange becomes the Readers’ Choice for TIME’s Person of the Year 2010.

      Just eats you up, doesn’t it? Makes your lonely heart sink and your stomach sour and fill with jealous, green acid to know how insignificant you are while Assange continues to ascend into the public sphere… a hero of the people.

      Just kills you, huh, sugar-pie? To be so… insignificant in the face of brilliance.

  33. malarchy says:

    Besides the fact that it would’ve sounded like a pile of Horses**t in 2006, I think it sounds good. It’s all true. It is challenging to write an intriguing personal ad that doesn’t sound self involved. You’re supposed to be selling yourself! I don’t see how he thought anyone would believe him though.

  34. Kimmo says:

    I’d like to see how folks throwing the term ‘douche’ around would fare under the same degree of scrutiny.

    IMO the douchiness of most folks is far greater than Assange’s.

    • TenInchesTaller says:

      Exactly. The power the internet has given us-obsessive documentation of every moment of someone’s life-has caused society to only be comfortable with the most boring, personality-devoid people. I’d rather take Julian Assange with all his discomforting, antisocial flaws any day over Sarah Palin’s sociable-but-dead-behind-the-eyes demeanor and meaningless mannerisms.

  35. hassenpfeffer says:

    The judge on “Night Court” was played by Harry Anderson, not Harrison.

  36. badgerbeth says:

    His profile made me snort/laugh. He’s so self important and that picture, oh LoL the picture.

    • Cowicide says:

      self important

      Is there some training facility that makes all of you use the same, exact jargon to deride Julian Assange? Or is this just a bunch of sock-puppetry?

      Either way…. it’s pitifully unthinking.

  37. Maggie Koerth-Baker says:

    Shudder.

    And not a sexy shudder, either.

  38. alisong76 says:

    Well I certainly wouldn’t have responded, he sounds like a complete douche, there.

  39. feralman says:

    I had lunch with director Alex Cox (Repo Man) today, and he’s now working with the actual sci-fi writer Harry Harrison on some sort of project. He was thrilled to see that this was the pseudonym used by Mr. Assange.

    • noah django says:

      this is potential good news. even though the likelihood of a novel adaptation to suck is great, I DO love Repo Man. I wanna see a Stainless Steel Rat movie. If they come up with a new project, I’m actually maybe more on board, since it won’t conflict with my mental images. Keep us posted via submitterator?

      Nice to see the 5 or so boingers who were hip to the screen name, though I expected as much from us. Though I have no real opinion of Assange, I gotta give him props for the handle.

  40. slamorte says:

    I just logged in to OKC and I see he and I are 90% match and 14% enemies. I’ve dated worse.

    This tho: “How your personalities compare: Neither is kinkier.”

    Wow. Knowing how kinky *I* am, I just want to say, Julian! You kinky old bastard you!

  41. PerfectInsanity says:

    Wow… last login was in 2006? Darn. I was so ready to make myself an OKCupid profile…That was such a high followed by such a low ^_-

  42. Anonymous says:

    my favorite bit:

    “Non-conformity is not the adoption of some pre-existing alternative subculture.”

    A-farkin’-MEN, brother.

  43. Anonymous says:

    The comments might be fake (I hope they’re not), but that “come hither and let me leak all over you” look ain’t.

  44. Mitch_M says:

    He’s kind of creepy looking, but then again so is Jeremy Irons and and a lot of women like him.

  45. Anonymous says:

    for an expert in bsd as mr. assange, it should be difficult to hack the gnu/linux test into a newbie score. many of its questions are rather kernel agnostic unix questions.

    what about the photographs? can they be found on other places, too?

    .~.

  46. Anonymous says:

    Hint: The key to his “insurance” file is hidden in the profile pics. ;) :D

  47. Anonymous says:

    Thing is, all the real douche’s are those who feel the need to qualify anything they say with “I know Assange is a douche but…” to the point that it’s almost a meme.

    I know Assange is a douche but could you pass the salt please…

    I haven’t seen anything, not in any of the countless profile articles, not in the revelations of the fallout between him and colleagues from Wikileaks and certainly nothing in this profile, to suggest that Assange is anything other then an intelligent person trying to make sense of the fucked up situation we find ourselves in and actually try to make a difference.

  48. rastronomicals says:

    Fuck your shitty excuse for “diplomacy”, asshole.

    Now, that’s adult.

    • Cowicide says:

      It’s interesting that after you read this:

      11,000 people and injuries to 500,000 more in Bhopal

      The part that upset you was some profane language. Glad to see your priorities are, uh… straight.

  49. holtt says:

    I’ve always had the impression that Assange was all about Assange, and was more into wikileaks as a way to affirm his own awesomeness than out of any sense of purpose.

    Oh, good… now we know what some Anon internet floater thinks. I’m glad I woke up today.

    if it makes you feel any better, I agree with the floater. Assange the man sounds like a dickwad.

    Wikileaks on the other hand is not a dickwad, unless you’re Joe Lieberman.

  50. Michael Smith says:

    Props to Julian for his taste in SF. If he winds up in the clink long term I might chuck some reading material his way, with a lock pick concealed inside of course.

    Actually I expected him to be more of a cyberpunk fan. This whole episode is pure Cryptonomicon heading into Neuromancer territory if the US get really interested.

  51. Anonymous says:

    Hey baby, Allegation/Scandal/Lawsuit?

    Hopefully this will humanise him more; who knows!

  52. Rich Keller says:

    I like the picture. It looks like he’s cosplaying both Lucius Malfoy and Snape.

  53. jennybean42 says:

    Apparently, we aren’t the only ones, Ten:

    http://julian-assange-fanciers-guild.tumblr.com

  54. MarkM says:

    If you have “asian teengirl stalkers,” why _encourage_
    them by greeting them right in your profile!

  55. happyez says:

    Oh come on everyone, it was a DATING site. People write all sorts of stuff on those. I did (when I needed to).

    He’s a thorough geek, self-obsessed obviously. Who knows what success he had with the ladies, but if he did, he wouldn’t have had much time for them.

    I doubt he’d give any lass much emotional support, he’d probably be needing it himself, but any lass going for him would hopefully know this anyway. She’ have to be a big giver and not expect much in resturn.

    He has a 20 year old who is also a programmer (can’t see a connection….) in Melbourne, so he’s been around a bit.

    Eh…

  56. Cowicide says:

    OkCupid CEO Sam Yagan tells me, “Yep, we believe it to be legitimate; it would have been quite an elaborate hoax otherwise.”

    OK… so, what specifically makes Sam Yagan suspect it’s legitimate besides his “hunch” here? Without those details this just smells of a potential smear campaign.

    I’m not saying it’s not legit, I just don’t understand why Sam Yagan says it is without some sort of solid explanation besides “he believes” it is.

  57. k2r says:

    “Douche” is a very non specific tag to stick to a person you do not know.
    What strikes me funny is that Julian Assange is beyond way more interesting than all of the people commenting on him being a douche most likely will ever be. I guess it’s a psychological symmetry thing, something about an equilibium in self perceptance.

    Still, I do not consider having unsafe sex an intelligent choice, so if he really did have that in Sweden it would seem a quite disappointing to me.

  58. Anonymous says:

    Lets turn up the heat. ;)
    Hint: The key to his “insurance” file is hidden in one of those images.

  59. Anonymous says:

    “Passionate, and often pig headed activist intellectual seeks siren for love affair, children and occasional criminal conspiracy.

    Such a woman should spirited and playful, of high intelligence, though not necessarily formally educated, have spunk, class & inner strength and be able to think strategically about the world and the people she cares about.”

    seems pretty ok. And the asian teengirl stalkers were only mentioned as a kind of pun – “Ages 22-46″ is at the bottom of the page. He was about 31 when he wrote this, so, mathematically, he included women 15 years older but onlu 9 years younger, so this seems correct.

  60. Anonymous says:

    Poor guy… Am I the only one that thinks this is the last thing he needs right now?

  61. Anonymous says:

    Hint: The key to his “insurance” is hidden in his profile photos ;) :D

  62. Aloisius says:

    OK… so, what specifically makes Sam Yagan suspect it’s legitimate besides his “hunch” here? Without those details this just smells of a potential smear campaign.

    I’m not saying it’s not legit, I just don’t understand why Sam Yagan says it is without some sort of solid explanation besides “he believes” it is.

    Because the last login time is dated 2006 and you have to login to upload pictures, update your profile, etc.

    Now, it could be that in 2006, someone logged into OKCupid, created an account for him and then filled out 46 tests. It is in the realm of possibility, but it certainly wasn’t a recent hoax and almost certainly wasn’t done in response to wikileaks.

  63. Anonymous says:

    Well, if it’s him, he’s going to be surprised by the hundreds of new OK Cupid notifications in his inbox…

  64. Anonymous says:

    This profile is definitely real, or at least not created recently.

    While checking out his profile I thought the pics looked very familiar. So I searched my PC for HarryHarrison, and it brought up an old MSN chatlog from January 2009 where I was chatting with a female acquaintance (whom I met on OKC, incidentally). She was sending me profiles to check out, and one of them was Assange’s…

    7/01/2009 4:19:38 PM [her] [me] I now have a match 96 96
    7/01/2009 4:19:46 PM [her] [me] they definitely changed the logarithms
    7/01/2009 4:19:52 PM [her] [me] he sounds like a bit of a tosser
    7/01/2009 4:20:00 PM [her] [me] HarryHarrison

  65. Anonymous says:

    I don’t understand why everyone is so keen on saying it’s legit because his last login was in 2006, but I just looked at it and it reads last login Jan, 1, 2007. Someone is messing around with this?

  66. mkultra says:

    Well, finding shallow inane people at a mall is kind of like finding hay in a hay stack. It’s been that way for my entire lifetime, and I would assume before. :-)

    Of course, there are a lot of us who don’t go to malls, who shop only when we must, who spend our lives doing things that matter, and helping the people we can as well as the communities we live in. Of course, you won’t see us at the mall because we’re too busy donating our time at an animal shelter or adult literacy workshop, making art or studying for a graduate degree.

    I’ve spent a fair amount of time traveling around, and what reverberates with me every time I go to a new part of the world is not how different we all, it’s how similar. From salarymen in Osaka to rural farmers in Chilé, from innkeepers on the coast of Maine to shepherds in northern Scotland: we all have far more in common that we have separating us.

  67. mkultra says:

    Golly, I guess, as long as you’re OK crushing on someone who assumes that you’re “valueless and inane” because of where you are from. (assuming you’re from a western culture)

    I mean, gosh.

  68. TenInchesTaller says:

    hey, don’t hate on those of us who aren’t valueless and inane. (it’s a hard life to lead)

  69. jennybean42 says:

    I live in the States, and I actually agree with him. Have you been to a mall lately? Valueless and inane pretty much sums it up.
    Anyway, yeah.

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