LOL: Judith Miller criticizes Wikileaks' Assange for not verifying his sources

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32 Responses to “LOL: Judith Miller criticizes Wikileaks' Assange for not verifying his sources”

  1. Anonymous says:

    “or determine whether or not it would hurt anyone” this is incorrect. Wikileaks have worked closely with newspaper publishers to vet information from leak documents which they feel would ‘hurt’ people. IMHO misinformation is the worst enemy of our freedom and news in the USA compared to here in Australia appears very misinformed.

  2. bardfinn says:

    Also, I’m … puzzled. How, exactly, is Herr Assange meant to verify the factuality of a series of leaked, classified documents, for which the government of the United States has only two verbal responses (being “No Comment” and “You have the right to remain silent, anything …”) and for which anyone involved in their creation or review can expect to be charged with treason should they comment, thus assuring their silence unless they’re fools – ?

    And as the United States has quite a bit of reach and power with regards to the infrastructure of the Internet, and has cover-up teams on-call 24/7 (you’re a fool if you think they don’t – what is the CIA for, after all?) wouldn’t it be totally counterproductive and foolhardy to tip his hand in any way by attempting to verify any of the published pieces?

  3. Manooshi says:

    Wow. Fuck that ****! Judith Miller’s NYT articles drummed for war against Iraq via Cheney’s lies; and we’re supposed to believe she’s a total dumb bitch about what constitutes “verifiable sources” AND the fact that she is projecting HER war crimes onto Assange? Miller is just as much a war criminal as Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld for having exploited her position at the NYT to green-light the racist and illegal killings of 2-million Iraqis since ’03.

  4. EH says:

    Can’t wait to read her next story for Newsmax.

  5. ukaser says:

    I’m sorry but I have to kind of give her the sway in this argument.

    She’s right when she says that her job was to report what the government believed. There is an argument that says you shouldn’t report on things you know are lies, but you also want to be sure to communicate what the powers that be beleive and are doing.

    A journalists job is not become the news, it’s to report the news. This is something that Assanage fails to grasp. Wikileaks is the story, not the leaks themselves.

    Not to mention the guy tried to stop a ‘leak’ about his own current legal situation.

    Yes, this woman is an idiot, but Assanage is worse. He’s an idiot with followers.

    • Cowicide says:

      Yes, this woman is an idiot, but Assanage is worse. He’s an idiot with followers.

      ukaser, you are incredibly ignorant on this subject. Does that make you an idiot too?

    • Anonymous says:

      There is an argument that says you shouldn’t report on things you know are lies, but you also want to be sure to communicate what the powers that be believe and are doing.

      A journalist’s job is to report both what they believe and that they are lies. Giving one without the context of the other is the job of a stenographer, and is all but lying in a reporter.

  6. scifijazznik says:

    It’s like RAAAYYYEEEAAAAIIIIN on your wedding…ah, fuck it. The joke is on anyone who still reads Judith Miller.

  7. Dave Faris says:

    It’s like rain on your wedding day or a free ride when you’re already late.

  8. mdh says:

    Out, damn’d spot! out, I say!—One; two: why, then
    ’tis time to do’t.—Hell is murky.—Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and
    afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our
    pow’r to accompt?—Yet who would have thought the old man to
    have had so much blood in him?

  9. Anonymous says:

    But there ARE WMDs in Iraq!!

    There ARE!!

    Scooter TOLD ME SO!!

  10. Lobster says:

    I thought he said there was some stuff he wasn’t releasing because it would cause harm?

    Either way, I don’t think Assange’s (or rather WikiLeaks’) role is to report. It’s not providing evidence. It’s telling us where we need to look. You can say it should either do the other half of the job as well or sit down and shut up, but no one else seems to be doing the job right now.

    WikiLeaks is far from perfect but it’s better than nothing. Either way, it’s best not to make a habit of it.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Well…She’d know, wouldn’t she? She’s an EXPERT!

  12. Anonymous says:

    pot, meet kettle.

  13. seyo says:

    lulz @ teh delishus eyerownee

  14. Anonymous says:

    being a modern day conservative with no need to acknowledge the past and its mistakes or the present and its realities and facts must be so liberating. i see why it appeals so much to evil miscreants and assorted fuckups.

  15. Osprey101 says:

    Next up: Down the rabbit hole with reigning fact-checker Judith Miller!

  16. MrJM says:

    UPDATE: A spokesman has confirmed that Irony was rushed to a local hospital this morning due to extreme exhaustion.

  17. Church says:

    WTF? She’s either made shit up, or been dumb enough to swallow shit that was made up.

    How does she still get work?

    (Seriously. I could use a job and I can pretend to be that stupid.)

    • Keith says:

      Ah, but can you pretend to be that stupid for a sustained amount of time? Even Stephen Colbert has trouble keeping the mask on, and his audience is in on the joke.

  18. Dave Faris says:

    Well, let’s give her the benefit of the doubt, and assume that she learned from her own mistakes.

  19. grimc says:

    Isn’t this hypocrisy, rather than irony?

  20. Anonymous says:

    heh heh heh

    wait, what?

  21. Anonymous says:

    I hear there are good jobs manufacturing consent.

  22. kip w says:

    After all, this is somebody who swiped her name from a Gilda Radner routine on Saturday Night Live.

  23. Anonymous says:

    While I have no respect for the journo making the statement, the statement itself is not without merit. Assange has repeatedly attempted to bill himself as a media reporter in order to receive the protections that more formalised media reporters have. However those same formalised media reporters have restrictions that he won’t allow himself to have.

    Assange also got upset with his own police reports being leaked?! It very much seems like assange wants one rule for him and another set for everyone who opposes him. People who work like this are just in it for the thrill of the game.

    • mdh says:

      meh @ your attitude. There is a difference between privacy and secrecy. And there very much is a problem with Judy Miller calling the kettle black here. Namely that she never owned her own pottedness.

  24. ericmartinex1 says:

    The US is biggest propaganda machine on earth. Don’t believe anything that comes out of that place. Especially information from a government agency. That’s why these cables are so liberating – even though they come from the State Department – but State Department is a government agency! 1/0! (brain explodes)

  25. Znaps says:

    The hardest button to button is, if he/Wikileaks as an organisation *DID* censor more material, or have a stronger vetting process, the same people who criticise them now for posting things indiscriminately would criticise them (more) for acting as self-appointed censors.

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