It’s rather interesting that the secret WikiLeaks reports also discuss thousands of terrorist attacks on Afghani civilians. And we know where many of those bombs come from, as well as what kinds of people have allied themselves with those who supplied the bombs.

http://www.goodfellasmagazine.com/2010/12/27/barcelona-storekeepers-will-be-fined-if-they-contract-graffiti-for-their-metal-shutters/

http://www.lavanguardia.es/vida/20101227/54092822960/los-comerciantes-de-barcelona-seran-multados-si-encargan-graffiti-para-su-persiana.html

Next thing you know, computer programmers are going to start whining when we choose to uninstall their software.

That may be our civic duty, but is it the duty of MOCA? Art and the MOCA serve the public. Could such a large and polarizing work cross the line from art to propaganda? If it were a pro-war piece, would it be any more or less appropriate?

Are you saying then that we should remove all art which engages in political thought should be removed from art museums? Gods no. Museums don’t endorse viewpoints of art. They endorse the discourse, emotional, political and otherwise, contained within the pieces they display. Or at least I’d hope they would. Mr. Deitch seems to have a different philosophy about art’s role in society. If a museum isn’t a vanguard of ideas, what purpose does it serve in society? Pretty pictures and first dates?

Excuse me but what cloud are you surfing on? There hasn’t been a war yet where some human hasn’t figured out how to make money off of it. To say that no money was made off of the last admitted wars we’ve waged (not to mention all the covert wars and proxy wars we’ve funded) is to engage in a perverse propaganda of your own making or just outright lying

Please, don’t shame the people who suffered and died in war by pretending that the US is somehow magically different than every other nation that wages war for fun and profit. You obviously have no clue as to your own history and are willfully ignorant about the realities of why wars are fought in the first place. WTFU

The work was whitewashed, and yet there it is again, up on the wall courtesy of a projector, along with the comments of support from fellow artists.

All that tech is consumer-grade. Probably cheaper, and more effective, to kit out a laser-graf set-up than break out the oils and canvases.

also, it isn’t censorship. the museum paid a man to paint something, then decided they didn’t like it and paid someone else to paint over it.

I mean, I’m anti-war, and I would definitely have painted over that- it’s ugly.

Here, there is the issue of art, as you said, reminiscent of Rivera/Rockefeller, and the issue of property. In America, property rules (see Scott v. Sanford, “Dred Scott” case, in which it was decided that the slave, Dred Scott was not a person but a chattel)

It’s the old “public speech on private property” issue, supposedly settled for once and for always in Robins v. Pruneyard, and it is a knotty Constitutional issue. In the absence of adhering to any absolutism in regards to the fundamental concepts of the freedoms it espouses–equality being primary–the Constitution in its truest form protects property rights and property owners over all else. Without the Bill of Rights, average people would have very few protections from this so-called limited *self-created* government; their circumstances were not a consideration of the Founders. The fact is, freedom begins and ends at the boundaries of private property, as do most of our other rights.

It may also interest you to know that law enforcement is part of the executive branch of the government–it ‘executes’ the laws the government creates–and was created to protect the *rights of property owners*; it is composed of para-military organizations with no obligation or requirement to protect Jane or John Doe; truth-telling is not mandated and coercion by lying is standard official procedure. Just FYI!

That said this mural was still just awful.

Am I the only one who find the irony that when he makes those animations his work is constantly ‘white washed’ to make the next frame?

Maybe the war in question was one where profiteers put aside greed in favor of patriotic duty. Couldn’t be Iraq, obviously, but maybe some other. Rare, but I suppose possible.

Plus: It’s sometimes fun, if also very sad, to point to Hugo Chavez. Those entangling alliances will continue to be a problem for those who claim to oppose war.

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Free-Blu-mural-censored-at-MOCA/1792461?preview=true

California has very strict artists’ rights laws preventing the destruction of a work like this.

http://www.owe.com/visualartistsrights.html

If LA MOCA is trying to go out of business, it’s doing everything right.

I’m sure it’ll be educational.

In my opinion, it was such a bad mural. So derivative. He got paid to paint it in MOCA?

We have very real enemies.

So that would be the people who make trillions off of genocide, right? Or are we talking about the Islamic terror-mongers around every corner?

First, rich people get certain kinds of other people all riled up about some phantom threat to their safety. Then, a bunch of teenagers are given guns.

These kids then kill other kids, men, women and children in a place far enough away that you think it’s abstract. These people tend to be of a different race than the aggressor’s armed children, and many of them are killed.

All the while, this other abstract concept called money is required. This paper-like substance is taken from the citizenry, often in the form of a ’1′ followed by 9-12 ’0′s. It is given to the private corporations that make all the things necessary to kill large numbers of people that have a different skin color. Strangely enough, this money is then placed gently into bank accounts already overfilling with an electronic intermediary for this ‘money’.