Breaking News: Tila Tequila can't remember her MySpace password

"I just lost my passion for MySpace. I haven't logged on because it's not simple anymore."—Tila Tequila, in a front page (that's right, A1) New York Times story on the decline of MySpace. (via Dave Itzkoff)

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  1. I deleted my myspace last week,too. I’d kept it up and even checked in every week or so even after I’d long since switched primarily to facebook (using myspace mostly only for music related stuff, their music features were better). But since they did the big change recently that turned it into a Flash mess, I got frustrated within seconds every time I logged in. It wasn’t just a ghost town any more, it was an irksome one. Even the music features that I used to like had become ensnared in the messy newness and weren’t worth fighting through that to get to.

  2. My girlfriend deleted her Facebook account. She found it more tedious than helpful. I myself rarely log into Facebook and frankly am close to deleting my account as well.

    Of course, everyone else keeps telling me that Facebook is different and that they won’t lose their users to competitors like MySpace and Friendster before them.

    They say the same thing about Google ignoring the long trail of dominant and now dead search engines.

    Now I won’t say that history always repeats itself, but why is it that people always seem to believe… this time will be different?

  3. I don’t mean this as a joke or anything . . . but did anyone else find themselves thinking it was odd that the Ariz shooter had posted things on Myspace recently, but not Facebook or Twitter (no mention of an account on either). Like, if I remember correctly, he wrote on his Myspace page in mid-Dec that he wanted to shoot a cop (perhaps a cry for help of sorts). It is possible that none of his friends on there even saw it, because they’d all stopped checking their Myspace accounts?

  4. I wrote this a couple of years ago, and it still seems to be true:
    the social networks are like parties that progress through stages:

    • stage 1: not many people – this might be lame
    • stage 2: okay, some people are showing up – let’s stick around and see what happens
    • stage 3: wow– there’s some cool people here, and i’m a little drunk. Fun!
    • stage 4: rager! holy shit! look how many people are here! We can do anything! (let’s steal ketchup from the fridge and throw it into the street!!!)
    • stage 5: waaay too many people. The cops are gonna show up, and people are pushing and shoving, and i can’t hear anything you’re saying right now. This is lame.

    MySpace has simply moved beyond stage 5. Facebook is vacilating somewhere between 3 and 4.

    1. You forgot the optional step somewhere between 2 and 4 where everything crashes and burns due to scalability issues.

      Those infrastructure issues are what killed so many early social sites, i.e. Friendster, LiveJournal, and Tribe.net. People just seem to have a low tolerance for those types of sites if they don’t work well.

      1. Good point, Xenu. There’s a tough adolescent phase there where you want/need more people to come to the site regularly, and simultaneously trying to guess the curve on user growth and bandwidth usage per user. No single architecture seems to hold the key– I think it all comes down to having some money and a good IT crew to spin up servers and bandwidth quickly.

      2. Those infrastructure issues are what killed so many early social sites, i.e. Friendster, LiveJournal, and Tribe.net. People just seem to have a low tolerance for those types of sites if they don’t work well.

        I’d say you’re correct because I know how many folks (aka: non-techs) never comprehend or appreciate scalability issues. And how that decimated many sites. But Twitter famously was built on Ruby on Rails which makes lovely prototypes, but horribly unstable sites when real traffic hits them. And Twitter is clearly here to stay.

        Still, MySpace? Feh. I think I dumped them in 2007. Ahead of all ya’ll! *snap* *snap*

      3. Wait, you’re saying LiveJournal has infrastructure issues but Facebook doesn’t?

        LJ was always reliable for me except those times when it was just plain down. Facebook on the other hand, STILL randomly doesn’t show all posts in the chronological view, STILL doesn’t have a way to default to chronological view, STILL has some sort of database trouble at least twice a week preventing “like” from working, has weird crap going on with notifications, STILL shows people dropping offline from chat while they’re not so you can’t reply to the messages they keep sending, has no reasonable way to sort or filter group messages…

    2. I like it, I like it…. Social media is very much like nightclubs (or “parties”). Everyone wants to be @ the hot new spot seeing what everyone else is doing, making presence know, word of mouth, yadda yadda yadda, more people show up, yadda yadda yadda, new place comes along, old place doesn’t have that THAT that the new place has, yadda yadda yadda….

      Yup. Note to Facebook: hold on to the A list as long as you can. lol!

      zzzzz…..

  5. Xeni, maybe you can weigh in here with some slightly more thoughtful commentary on the decline of MySpace, and then we can just close our eyes and pretend really hard that’s what’s on the front page of the New York Times?

  6. I was conned into MySpace and hated it from day one. Too flashy and distracting. The moving graphics and gaudy stuff just seared my eyeballs. Facebook sits there patiently until I want it to do something, which is what I want from ‘my’ social network.

  7. MySpace began life as part of the News Corporation with the same sort of hoopla that now surrounds Facebook. Rupert Murdoch, the News Corporation’s chairman, was immediately hailed as an Internet visionary.

    Thats not how I remember it. When Neqs Corp bought myspace it was already in decline and Murdoch was seen as buying well behind the curve.

  8. The only purpose of ‘social’ networking sites is not the benefit you gain from them but the way your personal data can be used and abused by others. Having ‘friends’ is NOT having real friends – these are CONNECTIONS. e.g. a recent suicide via FB – the person’s friends were criticised for failure to act.

    It is why I have friends but use none of the “social networking” sites. I call or email people and maintain personal contact rather than the ‘look at me’ self-aggrandisement…

  9. Also worth mentioning is that a great deal of Myspace traffic was band sites. A lot of bands even stopped having their own sites and domains since MS has eveything they needed to reach fans. So most bands paid developers to design custom layouts which no longer render properly when MS, in its infinite wisdom, decided to change the site layouts. I’ve noticed that just about every band I followed on MS now has either a non-functioning layout, or the new default layout and I’ve also noticed that the bands haven’t logged in to the MS accounts for months now.

    1. Let’s print the entire attribution please: “If I’ve lost Tila Tequila, I’ve lost Middle America and that guy Teller.” — Lyndon Johnson

  10. I think the next big thing that will lure users away from facebook will be one that you can be more selective more easily what posts you see from what people and pages and what posts other people see from you. Myspace had the beginnings of that feature, allowing you put people into lists and choose for a post to go out to only the people on that list, but it wasn’t nearly as comprehensive or as user friendly as it could have been. Facebook doesn’t have it at all. They let you make lists, but don’t let you do anything with them. They let you choose if each post is going to be totally public or just friends or friends of friends, but that’s not specific enough, especially for people with big friends lists and who have “liked” a lot of pages.

    If you could pick to only send the sort of off-color joke to your buddies and not to your co-workers and your grandmother, it would be fun. It would be nice if you could pick to only send your political commentary or movie reviews to the folks you knew were interested in them, I have several friends who are REALLY into some things that they post about all the time and I want to stay connected with them and not choose “hide” because the posts that aren’t about their niche obsession are something I still want to see. And there are folks I share a special interest with, but don’t care too much for their other posts. Like if you play roller derby, you have folks that are roller derby players on your list that you want the derby posts, but don’t need the posts about what cute thing their kid did today. If I could mark a box and filter my feed so that I could opt in or opt out of their special interest posts or general posts that would be great. I love my aunt, but I’m sure she doesn’t care to see the heavy metal videos I post and I don’t care how much she loved “Eat, Pray, Love” or wants to support every conservative cause on “causes”. I have some high school classmates that have moved away that I liked reconnecting with and would like to know the highlights of their lives, but I don’t need to know the details. I like to know when they have a baby, but I don’t need to know where they had dinner in a city that I will never visit. I like updates from my favorite bands when they post new material, when they post tour dates, etc, but don’t always need the daily update.

  11. I wonder if Myspace Tom sat in the back of the theater, watching the Social Network and swilling from a brown paper bag.

    I loved Myspace at first. Most of us did. This fiction the Social Network is spreading really bugs me. It wasn’t a lame site. Remember the term “Myspace crack” etc.? I was connecting with my friends primarly, and I enjoyed the random bands, artists out of nowhere. Wasn’t such a big deal to IGNORE them, etc.

    And then — my trendy nephew just pushed Facebook on me, and the world followed. I held out for a long time, because I was perfectly satisfied with Myspace. I’ve always felt it accomplished exactly what I wanted. The only FB feature that I really dug was the Newsfeed. That was the link to link all links. But, I never felt that feature was the reason why everyone ditched. Too be honest — I think Mom and Dad really wanted to be on Myspace, but they felt too old. When Facebook came along — Mom and Dad were ready for social media, and they didn’t have to feel like their neighbors would call them sexual predators or aging hipsters if they joined.

    1. Before mom and dad ever heard of Facebook, those of us “hip” enough to be students at private and/or prestigious universities immediately switched to Facebook from myspace (if we had even been using that). It really was cool at first. Part of it was that exclusivity – it wasn’t available to everyone. It was a tool for college students to connect with their college buddies – to stay connected to on-campus friends mainly (and to try to look up that cute girl from class whose name you’re not sure of – literally continuing the idea of a “face book”, which worked because *everyone* at the initial universities it was available at was on it) though of course it was good to stay connected with your high school friends who went to different schools.

  12. Typical new York times article: years late and wrong.

    As someone who just used myspace for the first time in years, I can tell you it beats failbook and twitter hands down for media. Music, movies, art, etc. That’s not exactly a ‘fringe’ market. Once Murdoch extricates his fangs from the jugular of myspace, it will become a dominant player in digital media discovery and sharing. Obsolete may be a great business model for faux news corp, but that ish don’t fly online IMHO.

  13. “Rupert Murdoch, the News Corporation’s chairman, was immediately hailed as an Internet visionary.” – Wasn’t so visionary to see that MySpace was a total donkey when he popped half a billion for it. I suppose when you’ve got your own paper you can write your own history.

  14. Well this thread may be dead now, about 7 hours since the last post but here goes.

    Gave up my MS addiction two years ago and never looked back. Since then I’ve been so much more productive in life. MS is a waste of time. All the people I really give a crap about I still keep in touch with without the aid of a crappy overly complex “social networking” site’s help, not to mention the lack of privacy concerns.

    Now I just have to get over my addiction to bOINGbOING. That might be a hard one though.

    1. Gave up my MS addiction two years ago and never looked back.

      FYI – MS is an abbreviation for Morphine Sulfate. You might not want to pair it with the word addiction if your employer will be reading your comments.

      1. Um, I appreciate the advice, I think. However, somebody would have to really be cherry-picking to even get that idea. Its not like I was searching google for “MS addiction.” Not only that it has been shortened in this thread at least once or twice before I used it. At full pedant, it could also mean microsoft or multiple sclerosis or mission status. Only people with a health care/drug abuse background would instantly think MS addiction meant Morphine Sulfate addiction. Besides the average joe would just use morphine not MS. Anyway, thanks again for the info, it’s nice to know you got my back. (Also this isn’t meant to sound adversarial just conversational, like two friends chatting around the water cooler.)

  15. Wow, talk about biting the hand that feeds you–Tila Tequila was a perfect fit for MySpace: loud, trashy and desperate for attention. She’s got about a third of the friends on FB as she does on MS. (And good luck with raising that total–you know the Juggaloes aren’t going to invite her back.)

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