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	<title>Comments on: Jeff Koons claims to own all balloon&#160;dogs</title>
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		<title>By: sickstep</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992000</link>
		<dc:creator>sickstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do not necessarily think Koons&#039; actions are appropriate or required I do feel it is reasonable to say that in this context Park Life is infringing on Koons domain.

Jeff Koons is one of the worlds most prominent artists and one of his most famous works was his balloon dogs series. Now an art gallery is creating more balloon dogs. They have been described as &quot;mini-Koons.&quot; The context of being an art gallery causes the new work of Park Life to be inextricably linked to the old work of Koons.

I support the copyfight but appropriation in one&#039;s art does not mean forfeiture of copyright.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do not necessarily think Koons&#8217; actions are appropriate or required I do feel it is reasonable to say that in this context Park Life is infringing on Koons domain.</p>
<p>Jeff Koons is one of the worlds most prominent artists and one of his most famous works was his balloon dogs series. Now an art gallery is creating more balloon dogs. They have been described as &#8220;mini-Koons.&#8221; The context of being an art gallery causes the new work of Park Life to be inextricably linked to the old work of Koons.</p>
<p>I support the copyfight but appropriation in one&#8217;s art does not mean forfeiture of copyright.   </p>
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		<title>By: bshock</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992259</link>
		<dc:creator>bshock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This artistic infringement suit seems to me like a larger commentary on all artistic infringement suits.  So many artists -- whether sculptors, painters, writers, musicians, etc. -- want to pretend that their works sprang from their brows fully formed, with no other progenitors.  Oh, they might have had a little inspiration here and there, but that&#039;s just inspiration; they could&#039;ve done something very similar without any help at all.

Except that we all know this is bullshit.  Every work of art created today is built on an ancient foundation of prior works.  At some arbitrary point we decide that an idea is sufficiently divergent from that foundation to be considered a new work, but that point is always arbitrary and always open to question.

Cory&#039;s clever witticism about pirates wanting to be admirals reminds us that laziness and greed are always there to convert today&#039;s dangerous young turks into tomorrow&#039;s entrenched old farts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This artistic infringement suit seems to me like a larger commentary on all artistic infringement suits.  So many artists &#8212; whether sculptors, painters, writers, musicians, etc. &#8212; want to pretend that their works sprang from their brows fully formed, with no other progenitors.  Oh, they might have had a little inspiration here and there, but that&#8217;s just inspiration; they could&#8217;ve done something very similar without any help at all.</p>
<p>Except that we all know this is bullshit.  Every work of art created today is built on an ancient foundation of prior works.  At some arbitrary point we decide that an idea is sufficiently divergent from that foundation to be considered a new work, but that point is always arbitrary and always open to question.</p>
<p>Cory&#8217;s clever witticism about pirates wanting to be admirals reminds us that laziness and greed are always there to convert today&#8217;s dangerous young turks into tomorrow&#8217;s entrenched old farts.</p>
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		<title>By: Anony Mouse</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992004</link>
		<dc:creator>Anony Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also I don&#039;t think that Koons is going to be deprived of earnings because someone bys a $20 book-end instead of a bazillion dollar original Koons work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I don&#8217;t think that Koons is going to be deprived of earnings because someone bys a $20 book-end instead of a bazillion dollar original Koons work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992261</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you all know Koons is a hack and does not make his own art. Most or all of his sculptures are made at a factory outside of LA...He is a suit and to defend him by saying that what he does is clever or an ongoing performance art piece is a disservice to hard working and dedicated artists. Although He does provide interesting discussion material for critique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you all know Koons is a hack and does not make his own art. Most or all of his sculptures are made at a factory outside of LA&#8230;He is a suit and to defend him by saying that what he does is clever or an ongoing performance art piece is a disservice to hard working and dedicated artists. Although He does provide interesting discussion material for critique.</p>
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		<title>By: adan-nada</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992262</link>
		<dc:creator>adan-nada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;balloon dogs in this pattern are prior art, so Koons doesn&#039;t have a leg to stand on

Well, prior art is not a defense in copyright.  The standard for a copyright is whether the author created something original.  Under one standard, the argument then becomes what&#039;s the original portion: the entire sculpture?  Just the shape?  The size? The glossy finish?  The answer to those questions then gets compared to the allegedly infringing bookends.

That being said, there are other factors that can be used to help the store: are they advertising it as an objet d&#039;art?  If not, then they can allege they are just making copies of a traditional balloon animal, rather than referring to Koons&#039; work, etc.

At the end of the day, unless the gallery commissioned those bookends, they can always rely on the supplier to fight their legal battle.  Or they can contact a law school clinic--if I were a law student, I&#039;d love to work on this case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>balloon dogs in this pattern are prior art, so Koons doesn&#8217;t have a leg to stand on</p>
<p>Well, prior art is not a defense in copyright.  The standard for a copyright is whether the author created something original.  Under one standard, the argument then becomes what&#8217;s the original portion: the entire sculpture?  Just the shape?  The size? The glossy finish?  The answer to those questions then gets compared to the allegedly infringing bookends.</p>
<p>That being said, there are other factors that can be used to help the store: are they advertising it as an objet d&#8217;art?  If not, then they can allege they are just making copies of a traditional balloon animal, rather than referring to Koons&#8217; work, etc.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, unless the gallery commissioned those bookends, they can always rely on the supplier to fight their legal battle.  Or they can contact a law school clinic&#8211;if I were a law student, I&#8217;d love to work on this case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-993030</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps so...but that is hardly Mr Warhol&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps so&#8230;but that is hardly Mr Warhol&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992007</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this case could set a precedent and the Estate of Marcel Duchamp could finally receive compensation for the misappropriation of millions of his Fountains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this case could set a precedent and the Estate of Marcel Duchamp could finally receive compensation for the misappropriation of millions of his Fountains.</p>
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		<title>By: avraamov</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992011</link>
		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>think i&#039;ll start up as a children&#039;s entertainer, and then sue koons. 

not for the balloon dogs though - just because he&#039;s shit.

now where&#039;s my clown outfit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>think i&#8217;ll start up as a children&#8217;s entertainer, and then sue koons. </p>
<p>not for the balloon dogs though &#8211; just because he&#8217;s shit.</p>
<p>now where&#8217;s my clown outfit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hools Verne</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992015</link>
		<dc:creator>Hools Verne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I see much difference between what Koons does and what Lichtenstein and Warhol did. All of them made careers and estates for themselves by cynically and derisively appropriating the work of artists who worked much harder and much more honestly for nowhere near the money that these self styled &quot;high artists&quot; made off of them. Hell, I&#039;ll give Koons a leg up over Lichtenstein because some of his sculpture and metallurgy displays craftsmanship and originality and Warhol at least created a studio space for other artists who did some genuinely inventive work.

Duchamp and Basquiat were geniuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I see much difference between what Koons does and what Lichtenstein and Warhol did. All of them made careers and estates for themselves by cynically and derisively appropriating the work of artists who worked much harder and much more honestly for nowhere near the money that these self styled &#8220;high artists&#8221; made off of them. Hell, I&#8217;ll give Koons a leg up over Lichtenstein because some of his sculpture and metallurgy displays craftsmanship and originality and Warhol at least created a studio space for other artists who did some genuinely inventive work.</p>
<p>Duchamp and Basquiat were geniuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Hools Verne</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992017</link>
		<dc:creator>Hools Verne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; The context of being an art gallery causes the new work of Park Life to be inextricably linked to the old work of Koons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is a load.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> The context of being an art gallery causes the new work of Park Life to be inextricably linked to the old work of Koons.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a load.</p>
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		<title>By: talzaken</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992278</link>
		<dc:creator>talzaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hint: Koons doesn&#039;t actually craft the metallurgy himself. he&#039;s pretty much purely conceptual. And lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hint: Koons doesn&#8217;t actually craft the metallurgy himself. he&#8217;s pretty much purely conceptual. And lame.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-993048</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992286</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t believe that Franklin Sherman would allow this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrvXQe3dVFc#t=1m01s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t believe that Franklin Sherman would allow this!<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrvXQe3dVFc#t=1m01s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrvXQe3dVFc#t=1m01s</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ambiguity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-993054</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambiguity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The art world is filled with sculptors who depend on foundries to make the final versions of their work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yea, and I think that&#039;s kind of a shame. I really like the DIY/maker ethic, and before art became Art, it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a craft.

I&#039;m really impressed with people who can make incredible things. &quot;Idea people&quot;... not so much. Ideas are easy; creating is something different.

Mr Koons is kind of impressive as a business man, but personally it&#039;s not a domain I find too interesting. Actually, I don&#039;t find &lt;i&gt;art&lt;/i&gt; too interesting any more. Too many Koons and Faireys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The art world is filled with sculptors who depend on foundries to make the final versions of their work.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yea, and I think that&#8217;s kind of a shame. I really like the DIY/maker ethic, and before art became Art, it <i>was</i> a craft.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really impressed with people who can make incredible things. &#8220;Idea people&#8221;&#8230; not so much. Ideas are easy; creating is something different.</p>
<p>Mr Koons is kind of impressive as a business man, but personally it&#8217;s not a domain I find too interesting. Actually, I don&#8217;t find <i>art</i> too interesting any more. Too many Koons and Faireys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ambiguity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-993058</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambiguity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can&#039;t say I see much difference between what Koons does and what Lichtenstein and Warhol did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, as far as I know Lichtenstein never sued a comic book company, and Warhol was on pretty good terms with Campbell&#039;s.

What&#039;s more, while I absolutely don&#039;t agree with the fetish that the art world has made out of &lt;i&gt;new&lt;/i&gt;, if you &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; going to make a fetish out it, you have to award points to the people who got there first.

Duchamp gets most of the points; very little new has been done since Dada. So I think the art world just needs to get over it and move onto a new phase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can&#8217;t say I see much difference between what Koons does and what Lichtenstein and Warhol did.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, as far as I know Lichtenstein never sued a comic book company, and Warhol was on pretty good terms with Campbell&#8217;s.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, while I absolutely don&#8217;t agree with the fetish that the art world has made out of <i>new</i>, if you <i>are</i> going to make a fetish out it, you have to award points to the people who got there first.</p>
<p>Duchamp gets most of the points; very little new has been done since Dada. So I think the art world just needs to get over it and move onto a new phase.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-993578</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yea, and I think that&#039;s kind of a shame. I really like the DIY/maker ethic, and before art became Art, it &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; a craft.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You make it sound like this is a new phenomenon in art, but even the Renaissance Masters used assistants and craftspeople for those purposes. Doing the creative stuff and outsourcing the technical work frees up the artist to create more work overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yea, and I think that&#8217;s kind of a shame. I really like the DIY/maker ethic, and before art became Art, it <em>was</em> a craft.</p></blockquote>
<p>You make it sound like this is a new phenomenon in art, but even the Renaissance Masters used assistants and craftspeople for those purposes. Doing the creative stuff and outsourcing the technical work frees up the artist to create more work overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992044</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[Warhol]... made [a] career and estate for himself by cynically and derisively appropriating the work of artists who worked much harder and much more honestly for nowhere near the money that these self styled &quot;high artists&quot; made off of them.&quot;

Not true in Warhol&#039;s case. Mr Warhol was a very successful illustrator and commercial artist for some time before he moved into &#039;fine art&#039;.

He at least was very much one of those unsung &quot;unknown hard-working commercial artists&quot; himself: and that adds to his later works. 

As far as Mr Warhol is concerned, don&#039;t be fooled: nobody in fine art was doing what he was doing when he started doing it.

And he himself had for long been a successful fully-employed very busy commercial artist by the time he re-created himself as a &quot;fine artist&quot;.

For Mr Warhol, art was always work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahhWksSmX6s

And he was/is right about that.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[Warhol]&#8230; made [a] career and estate for himself by cynically and derisively appropriating the work of artists who worked much harder and much more honestly for nowhere near the money that these self styled &#8220;high artists&#8221; made off of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not true in Warhol&#8217;s case. Mr Warhol was a very successful illustrator and commercial artist for some time before he moved into &#8216;fine art&#8217;.</p>
<p>He at least was very much one of those unsung &#8220;unknown hard-working commercial artists&#8221; himself: and that adds to his later works. </p>
<p>As far as Mr Warhol is concerned, don&#8217;t be fooled: nobody in fine art was doing what he was doing when he started doing it.</p>
<p>And he himself had for long been a successful fully-employed very busy commercial artist by the time he re-created himself as a &#8220;fine artist&#8221;.</p>
<p>For Mr Warhol, art was always work:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahhWksSmX6s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahhWksSmX6s</a></p>
<p>And he was/is right about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992303</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Koons doesn&#039;t actually craft the metallurgy himself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I won&#039;t defend Koons in this copyright case but there&#039;s nothing wrong with a fine artist who depends on other skilled craftspeople for final production. No single person could have created the Statue of Liberty even if they had all the necessary skill sets to do so but FrÃ©dÃ©ric Bartholdi still deserves credit as &quot;artist.&quot; The art world is filled with sculptors who depend on foundries to make the final versions of their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Koons doesn&#8217;t actually craft the metallurgy himself.</p></blockquote>
<p>I won&#8217;t defend Koons in this copyright case but there&#8217;s nothing wrong with a fine artist who depends on other skilled craftspeople for final production. No single person could have created the Statue of Liberty even if they had all the necessary skill sets to do so but FrÃ©dÃ©ric Bartholdi still deserves credit as &#8220;artist.&#8221; The art world is filled with sculptors who depend on foundries to make the final versions of their work.</p>
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		<title>By: Philipshade</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-993073</link>
		<dc:creator>Philipshade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koons is a douchebag, always has been always will be.</description>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992052</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to copyright, Mr Warhol apparently felt that images were worth repeating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GphPmGOHy_Y

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to copyright, Mr Warhol apparently felt that images were worth repeating&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GphPmGOHy_Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GphPmGOHy_Y</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Koons&#039;s lawyers argue that since Koons once produced a set of iconic statues of balloon dogs, all representations of balloon dogs are henceforth Koons&#039;s exclusive purview, and anyone who makes or sells a balloon dog infringes on Koons&#039;s copyright. 

I heard Koons also demanded that everyone, worldwide, cease and desist being or acting like a self-important douchebag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Koons&#8217;s lawyers argue that since Koons once produced a set of iconic statues of balloon dogs, all representations of balloon dogs are henceforth Koons&#8217;s exclusive purview, and anyone who makes or sells a balloon dog infringes on Koons&#8217;s copyright. </p>
<p>I heard Koons also demanded that everyone, worldwide, cease and desist being or acting like a self-important douchebag.</p>
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		<title>By: Padraig</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-993336</link>
		<dc:creator>Padraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like some of Koonz work. I also think that if he is behind this stupidity then he deserves any insulting epithet that comes his way.

That said, painters such as Rubens:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens

would also &#039;outsource&#039; some of their work :))

Not wishing to get into an not/art argument (I took some art theory classes during my undergrad to learn how to identify wankers and to help better appreciate art :)) I would say that if people buy it because they believe it to be art...none of which takes away from the fact that if he&#039;s involved in, or doesn&#039;t prevent this stupidity, then he will only damage his own image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like some of Koonz work. I also think that if he is behind this stupidity then he deserves any insulting epithet that comes his way.</p>
<p>That said, painters such as Rubens:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens</a></p>
<p>would also &#8216;outsource&#8217; some of their work :))</p>
<p>Not wishing to get into an not/art argument (I took some art theory classes during my undergrad to learn how to identify wankers and to help better appreciate art :)) I would say that if people buy it because they believe it to be art&#8230;none of which takes away from the fact that if he&#8217;s involved in, or doesn&#8217;t prevent this stupidity, then he will only damage his own image.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992315</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He might. Sooner or later, &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; is going to make it plain exactly how original his work is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He might. Sooner or later, <i>something</i> is going to make it plain exactly how original his work is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992061</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Final point: Mr Warhol&#039;s later  portraits of the rich and famous (done for commission income - a working artist, as I indicted above) have yet to be fully appreciated, IMHO. 

They constitute, and must be considered as, one large set or series, and ought to be displayed as such. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final point: Mr Warhol&#8217;s later  portraits of the rich and famous (done for commission income &#8211; a working artist, as I indicted above) have yet to be fully appreciated, IMHO. </p>
<p>They constitute, and must be considered as, one large set or series, and ought to be displayed as such. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992320</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just heard about this. Copyright and trademark law have gotten beyond ridiculous.

We&#039;re having the same kind of problem here on the east coast, in Baltimore City, where a businesswoman appears to have lied on her trademark application so that she could get exclusive rights to use the word &quot;hon&quot; (a very old Baltimore term of endearment) in commerce. Since she received the trademark, she has done the same kind of overreaching that Koons is doing.

You can find out more about our troubles at www.facebook.com/cafehon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just heard about this. Copyright and trademark law have gotten beyond ridiculous.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re having the same kind of problem here on the east coast, in Baltimore City, where a businesswoman appears to have lied on her trademark application so that she could get exclusive rights to use the word &#8220;hon&#8221; (a very old Baltimore term of endearment) in commerce. Since she received the trademark, she has done the same kind of overreaching that Koons is doing.</p>
<p>You can find out more about our troubles at <a href="http://www.facebook.com/cafehon" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/cafehon</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992069</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the topic at hand.

Working artists who have made a name for themselves know what that name cost to create.

Like any business, thewich to maintain the value of that which they have created.

Mr Koons is free to attempt to use the Courts, as is any citizen, if he feels that to do so will help him to preserving the value of his name. Without looking at many more details, I can have no opinion as to the merits of his specific claim.

But as far as any effect that this baloon-dog claim may have on Mr Koons&#039; &quot;brand&quot; ....well, didn&#039;t Andy Warhol once say that in some cases, &quot;Any publicity is good publicity&quot;?

PS: I like some of Mr Koons&#039; work, but I haven&#039;t seen a lot of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the topic at hand.</p>
<p>Working artists who have made a name for themselves know what that name cost to create.</p>
<p>Like any business, thewich to maintain the value of that which they have created.</p>
<p>Mr Koons is free to attempt to use the Courts, as is any citizen, if he feels that to do so will help him to preserving the value of his name. Without looking at many more details, I can have no opinion as to the merits of his specific claim.</p>
<p>But as far as any effect that this baloon-dog claim may have on Mr Koons&#8217; &#8220;brand&#8221; &#8230;.well, didn&#8217;t Andy Warhol once say that in some cases, &#8220;Any publicity is good publicity&#8221;?</p>
<p>PS: I like some of Mr Koons&#8217; work, but I haven&#8217;t seen a lot of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992072</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish &quot;thewich&quot; was &quot;they wish&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish &#8220;thewich&#8221; was &#8220;they wish&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/01/11/jeff-koons-claims-to.html#comment-992073</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To preserve &quot;preserving&quot;, switch &#039;in&#039; for &#039;to&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To preserve &#8220;preserving&#8221;, switch &#8216;in&#8217; for &#8216;to&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Koons should be mentioned as an &quot;artist&quot; unless the appropriate &quot;con-&quot; prefix is attached.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now the balloon animals are sold out. :(</description>
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