Comments on: Revolution in Tunisia: photo gallery http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 16:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: spoke http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995077 spoke Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995077 Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962 Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962

]]> By: Rayonic http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995079 Rayonic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995079 What nonsense are you talking about? Revolution = Good, that's all there is to it. FIGHT THE POWER! What nonsense are you talking about?
Revolution = Good, that’s all there is to it.

FIGHT THE POWER!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995096 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995096 "Revolution = Good, that's all there is to it." Just like the Iranian Revolution, right? Not to say that this one will necessarily be bad. But to say that all revolutions are necessarily good is shortsighted. A repeated pattern is for a broad coalition to form in order to overthrow the state, but once it is gone, the most ruthless faction in the coalition murders the others and takes control. It happened with Lenin et al, and it happened with Khomeini. It happens repeatedly in African countries. Revolutions are tricky things. “Revolution = Good, that’s all there is to it.”

Just like the Iranian Revolution, right?

Not to say that this one will necessarily be bad. But to say that all revolutions are necessarily good is shortsighted. A repeated pattern is for a broad coalition to form in order to overthrow the state, but once it is gone, the most ruthless faction in the coalition murders the others and takes control. It happened with Lenin et al, and it happened with Khomeini. It happens repeatedly in African countries.

Revolutions are tricky things.

]]> By: alllie http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995100 alllie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995100 <blockquote>What nonsense are you talking about? Revolution = Good, that's all there is to it.</blockquote> Right, tell that to the women of Iran.

What nonsense are you talking about?
Revolution = Good, that’s all there is to it.

Right, tell that to the women of Iran.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995869 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995869 So the alternative is what? Do nothing and live under such massive corruption? This is not a case of "better the devil you know". If another dictatorship takes its place, that will fall too. All nations need to take note of this: if you operate a dictatorship, the people WILL overthrow you. And our "democratic" governments should also take note: we are watching you very closely, and if you continue to limit OUR freedoms to protect yourselves from being exposed as the corrupt leaders you are, you WILL face the same. So the alternative is what? Do nothing and live under such massive corruption?
This is not a case of “better the devil you know”. If another dictatorship takes its place, that will fall too.

All nations need to take note of this: if you operate a dictatorship, the people WILL overthrow you. And our “democratic” governments should also take note: we are watching you very closely, and if you continue to limit OUR freedoms to protect yourselves from being exposed as the corrupt leaders you are, you WILL face the same.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995620 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995620 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZZnnyLnvgI">this</a> is what it feels like to breathe again. (translation <a href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=1ZZnnyLnvgI">in the comments</a>) .~. this is what it feels like to breathe again.

(translation in the comments)

.~.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995119 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995119 Tunisia is not Iran, take few minutes to learn about Tunisia and you will understand that what you said is completely nonsense, days will show it. Proud of being tunisian Tunisia is not Iran, take few minutes to learn about Tunisia and you will understand that what you said is completely nonsense, days will show it.
Proud of being tunisian

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995124 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995124 You know nothing about Tunisia. Women in Tunisia enjoy some of the strongest rights in the entire Arab world. Women in Tunisia are educated and participate in the work force. A new government will not change that, especially since this revolution is not based on Islamic mobilization, instead on freedom and unemployment. You know nothing about Tunisia. Women in Tunisia enjoy some of the strongest rights in the entire Arab world. Women in Tunisia are educated and participate in the work force. A new government will not change that, especially since this revolution is not based on Islamic mobilization, instead on freedom and unemployment.

]]> By: Im̬ne Tunisian http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995899 Im̬ne Tunisian Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995899 Dear Allie - you know nothing about what s going on in Tunisia, nor about Tunisians. I am a Tunisian woman, and the former president you are defending, is behind the thousands of corrupt policemen and criminals who are currently (the same time I am speaking 15.01.11 9pm)surrounding our houses, attacking everyone, killing, raping, freeing prisoners to spread chaos, burning houses, shops, malls, we couldn t find bread this morning, to eat. He gave direct orders before fleeing to destroy absolutely everything. we are terrorised. Our husbands, brothers and children are in the streets at the moment with sticks and stones trying to defend their families, friends, and homes side by side with our brave military army. Tunisians are educated and intelligent, they just showed the world the are not to be oppressed by tyrant, and they will never be again. He was not the one pushing the islamist threat, we were. coz we don t believe in extremism, we don t believe in tyranny, we only believe in freedom and peace. You just heard somewhere he fought islamism, so you think you should be safer with him in Tunisia, while he kills and steals and tortures his people, 12M. your peace of mind Vs. 12 million people s lives??? wow, bravo! ps. they just said on the news that the towns drinking water reserves are being attacked by Ben Ali s milicia Sleep tight. Imene, Tunis Dear Allie Рyou know nothing about what s going on in Tunisia, nor about Tunisians.
I am a Tunisian woman, and the former president you are defending, is behind the thousands of corrupt policemen and criminals who are currently (the same time I am speaking 15.01.11 9pm)surrounding our houses, attacking everyone, killing, raping, freeing prisoners to spread chaos, burning houses, shops, malls, we couldn t find bread this morning, to eat. He gave direct orders before fleeing to destroy absolutely everything. we are terrorised. Our husbands, brothers and children are in the streets at the moment with sticks and stones trying to defend their families, friends, and homes side by side with our brave military army.
Tunisians are educated and intelligent, they just showed the world the are not to be oppressed by tyrant, and they will never be again. He was not the one pushing the islamist threat, we were. coz we don t believe in extremism, we don t believe in tyranny, we only believe in freedom and peace.
You just heard somewhere he fought islamism, so you think you should be safer with him in Tunisia, while he kills and steals and tortures his people, 12M. your peace of mind Vs. 12 million people s lives??? wow, bravo!
ps. they just said on the news that the towns drinking water reserves are being attacked by Ben Ali s milicia
Sleep tight.
Imene, Tunis

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995388 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995388 what a night. .~. what a night.

.~.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995143 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995143 To alllie, Our past before Ben Ali did not show any mis treat to women and I hope in the future too. Women are given all their rights in Islam and in Tunisia Women were participating in demonstrating and they were killed or injured by state police. To alllie, Our past before Ben Ali did not show any mis treat to women and I hope in the future too. Women are given all their rights in Islam and in Tunisia Women were participating in demonstrating and they were killed or injured by state police.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-1011789 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1011789 I’m so proud with what happen in my dear country tunisia.we can breathe again; we see the light of freedom for the first time in our life. Mr allie don’t worry about us (I mean about the Tunisian women) because god gave us the freedom since we born not the demon ben allie and no one no one can takes our country from us or ignore our faith in life because we’re ready to die thousands of times and even after the death our ghosts will fight to see our lovely country between the hands of a illiterate man. Mr allie we strong enough to survive, to protect our lovely country and to die free, Mr allie be sure that nothing change since ben alie left we still the same, we still have the same rights and we still have the power and be sure that no the new government or anybody else can change this fact that we’re free” we born free” or ignore” the Tunisian women” because we’ll stop them. Like say abou kaccem chebbi: فلا عاش في تونس من خانها ولا عاش من ليس من جندها* = Not lived in Tunisia, cheated on her and lived not from their host نموت ونحيا على عهدها حياة الكرام وموت العظام* = Die and we live an era of life and death of bone customers (god be with u Egypt) I’m so proud with what happen in my dear country tunisia.we can breathe again; we see the light of freedom for the first time in our life.
Mr allie don’t worry about us (I mean about the Tunisian women) because god gave us the freedom since we born not the demon ben allie and no one no one can takes our country from us or ignore our faith in life because we’re ready to die thousands of times and even after the death our ghosts will fight to see our lovely country between the hands of a illiterate man.
Mr allie we strong enough to survive, to protect our lovely country and to die free, Mr allie be sure that nothing change since ben alie left we still the same, we still have the same rights and we still have the power and be sure that no the new government or anybody else can change this fact that we’re free” we born free” or ignore” the Tunisian women” because we’ll stop them. Like say abou kaccem chebbi:
فلا عاش في تونس من خانها ولا عاش من ليس من جندها*
=
Not lived in Tunisia, cheated on her and lived not from their host
نموت ونحيا على عهدها حياة الكرام وموت العظام*
=
Die and we live an era of life and death of bone customers
(god be with u Egypt)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-1011798 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1011798 فلا عاش في تونس من خانها ولا عاش من ليس من جندها نموت ونحيا على عهدها حياة الكرام وموت العظام Not lived in Tunisia, cheated on her and lived not from their host Die and we live an era of life and death of bone customers ( sorry about last time i did it with wrong way) فلا عاش في تونس من خانها ولا عاش من ليس من جندها
نموت ونحيا على عهدها حياة الكرام وموت العظام

Not lived in Tunisia, cheated on her and lived not from their host
Die and we live an era of life and death of bone customers
( sorry about last time i did it with wrong way)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-1008217 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1008217 i can't find my reply to mr allie can i know why please !?!!!! i can’t find my reply to mr allie can i know why please !?!!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995168 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995168 it is such a beautiful country with such a promising youth. you can't imagine the level of depression and sadness these people had to bear for the last decades. vraiement, vive la tunisie libre et democratique. .~. it is such a beautiful country with such a promising youth. you can’t imagine the level of depression and sadness these people had to bear for the last decades.

vraiement, vive la tunisie libre et democratique.

.~.

]]> By: spincycle http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995173 spincycle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995173 I really hope that was sarcasm. I really hope that was sarcasm.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-1023856 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023856 i love u Tunisia and i want to say : We are the champions - my Friends And we'll keep on fighting - till the end - We are the champions - We are the champions No time for losers(ben ali and his wife and family wife) 'Cause we are the champions - of the world - i love u Tunisia and i want to say :

We are the champions – my Friends
And we’ll keep on fighting – till the end -
We are the champions -
We are the champions
No time for losers(ben ali and his wife and family wife)
‘Cause we are the champions – of the world –

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-1008502 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1008502 Because you posted in the wrong thread. Because you posted in the wrong thread.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-1005701 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1005701 je suis fiere que je suis tunisin proud to be tunisia je suis fiere que je suis tunisin
proud to be tunisia

]]> By: Rayonic http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995730 Rayonic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995730 Dingdingding! We have a winner. Sorry guys, I thought the sarcasm was obvious. Dingdingding! We have a winner.

Sorry guys, I thought the sarcasm was obvious.

]]> By: DoctressJulia http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995992 DoctressJulia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995992 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/aug/25/tunisia-backtracking-womens-rights http://www.magharebia.com/cocoon/awi/xhtml1/en_GB/features/awi/features/2009/04/21/feature-02 Just a few I found... later http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/aug/25/tunisia-backtracking-womens-rights

http://www.magharebia.com/cocoon/awi/xhtml1/en_GB/features/awi/features/2009/04/21/feature-02

Just a few I found… later

]]> By: signsofrain http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-994971 signsofrain Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-994971 Strike a blow for freedom, Tunisians! :) Strike a blow for freedom, Tunisians! :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-996512 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-996512 I'm a Tunisian living abroad since well before Ben Ali took over 23 years ago. Always loved my country but had been desillusioned by it for years. This is one of the first instances that I have been truly proud of it. Let's admit it: what happened there is nothing short of the Arab equivalent of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Unlike East Germans, Tunisians don't have West Germany to help consolidate their hard won freedom. Rather, they have retarded Kaddhafi next door, to castigate them for their revolt. Regardless, I hope Tunisians will succeed in consolidating their freedom and that it won't be hijacked by fundmentalists and other intolerant figures. What I do know is that Tunisia is the only Arab country where such a consolidation is viable. I’m a Tunisian living abroad since well before Ben Ali took over 23 years ago. Always loved my country but had been desillusioned by it for years. This is one of the first instances that I have been truly proud of it. Let’s admit it: what happened there is nothing short of the Arab equivalent of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Unlike East Germans, Tunisians don’t have West Germany to help consolidate their hard won freedom. Rather, they have retarded Kaddhafi next door, to castigate them for their revolt. Regardless, I hope Tunisians will succeed in consolidating their freedom and that it won’t be hijacked by fundmentalists and other intolerant figures. What I do know is that Tunisia is the only Arab country where such a consolidation is viable.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-994981 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-994981 Vive la Tunisie libre ! Freedom in Tunisia ! Je suis français et j'ai honte que mon pays soutienne (depuis longtemps) un dictateur comme Ben Ali. Ici, parmi les hommes et femmes politiques, rares sont ceux qui s'élèvent pour dénoncer le pouvoir. Je suis heureux que le Peuple ait enfin la force de mener sa vraie révolution ! A.C. de Haenne Vive la Tunisie libre !

Freedom in Tunisia !

Je suis français et j’ai honte que mon pays soutienne (depuis longtemps) un dictateur comme Ben Ali. Ici, parmi les hommes et femmes politiques, rares sont ceux qui s’élèvent pour dénoncer le pouvoir.

Je suis heureux que le Peuple ait enfin la force de mener sa vraie révolution !

A.C. de Haenne

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-996536 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-996536 Those who know and love Tunisia and its people stand with them tonight. Be safe. My friend searched for milk for 2 hours for his child. There was none. Dramatic and urgent need for short term assistance during the birth of this new democracy. To the rest of you idiots that could not find Tunisia on the map to save your life but are experts on the social and political realities of this country - shut up! Those who know and love Tunisia and its people stand with them tonight. Be safe. My friend searched for milk for 2 hours for his child. There was none. Dramatic and urgent need for short term assistance during the birth of this new democracy.

To the rest of you idiots that could not find Tunisia on the map to save your life but are experts on the social and political realities of this country – shut up!

]]> By: Ken http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995532 Ken Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995532 The uprising in Tunisia is fantastic, best news for the Middle East I can ever recall. It will give the rest of people in the MiddleEast something to fight for. There are many despots within the Middle East that can be removed by taking action. I've seen here comments that appear to worry over what will happen an fear an Islamic State. I'm a socialist and would like to see a socialist revolution, where workers take total control of their lives. BUT, it's not for me or anyone else to decide what the final outcome of this or any other revolution should be. If the people of Tunisia decide to create an islamic state then I'd support that decision. Why would a socialist support this? Because it's in everyone's interest to see the people of the all of the Middle East to be free and make their own lives. The other biggest loser over this revolution will be the USA, it has propped up most of the middle east despots including the regime in Tunisia since the UN stole Palestine from it's people and created Israel, everything that weakens the hold of the US and in doing so also of Isreal.. The uprising in Tunisia is fantastic, best news for the Middle East I can ever recall. It will give the rest of people in the MiddleEast something to fight for. There are many despots within the Middle East that can be removed by taking action.

I’ve seen here comments that appear to worry over what will happen an fear an Islamic State. I’m a socialist and would like to see a socialist revolution, where workers take total control of their lives. BUT, it’s not for me or anyone else to decide what the final outcome of this or any other revolution should be. If the people of Tunisia decide to create an islamic state then I’d support that decision.

Why would a socialist support this? Because it’s in everyone’s interest to see the people of the all of the Middle East to be free and make their own lives.

The other biggest loser over this revolution will be the USA, it has propped up most of the middle east despots including the regime in Tunisia since the UN stole Palestine from it’s people and created Israel, everything that weakens the hold of the US and in doing so also of Isreal..

]]> By: alllie http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995050 alllie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995050 And what will be the result of this? Probably an Islamic country where women have few rights. Whatever the creep president's flaws and corruption, he was fighting that. Now the new government will probably be anti-woman. And what will be the result of this? Probably an Islamic country where women have few rights. Whatever the creep president’s flaws and corruption, he was fighting that. Now the new government will probably be anti-woman.

]]> By: Donald Petersen http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-995061 Donald Petersen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-995061 Rob Halford would like his hat back. And his flames, too. Rob Halford would like his hat back. And his flames, too.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/14/a-revolution-in-tuni.html#comment-996346 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-996346 First, I am an Algerian Brother and I would like to congratulate the Brave Tunisian Nation for their accomplishment. A small country with a great Nation.. I hope that my brothers in Tunisia will build the first dictator free society and don't fall into the same trap that happened to Algeria in 1988 when the Algerians over-threw the government to fall into a coup d'etat of the Generals that took over 300.000 civilian lives. yet, let be whishfull for our brothers and sisters in Tunisia and tell them that the all of the Algerian people are on their side and TAHIA A CHAAB A TUNISY! First, I am an Algerian Brother and I would like to congratulate the Brave Tunisian Nation for their accomplishment. A small country with a great Nation.. I hope that my brothers in Tunisia will build the first dictator free society and don’t fall into the same trap that happened to Algeria in 1988 when the Algerians over-threw the government to fall into a coup d’etat of the Generals that took over 300.000 civilian lives. yet, let be whishfull for our brothers and sisters in Tunisia and tell them that the all of the Algerian people are on their side and TAHIA A CHAAB A TUNISY!

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