Comments on: Anti-capitalist rumba rave in a Spanish bank http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Mon, 20 May 2013 20:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: alllie http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1008898 alllie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1008898 Capitalists are never interested in liberty, except the freedom to make as much money as they can, anyway they can, without being restrained by laws or regulations. Our present economic crisis is the result of pure unregulated capitalism. Economically end stage capitalism is monopoly, and politically it's fascism. Capitalists are never interested in liberty, except the freedom to make as much money as they can, anyway they can, without being restrained by laws or regulations. Our present economic crisis is the result of pure unregulated capitalism.

Economically end stage capitalism is monopoly, and politically it’s fascism.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1009164 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1009164 Capitalism, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly In times past, Capitalists,Corporatists, were controlled by the governments, respected union controls, and did not seek political clout. In America's Golden Age, unions raged, the worker was king, the Middle Class grew, wages rose, interest on savings was paid, and money flowed in the country. Republicans, neo-cons, the Uber-Rich,the investors, the Capitalists, the Corporatists, bought political clout, and altered the political rules of the country in their favor. With lobbyest groups they rendered the peon's vote innocuous, with down-sizing and shady employment politics they engaged in the part-time labor rip off, downsizing, and a general, lawless, battering of labor. the final blow to the Middle Class came with off-shoring, the selling out of the very life-blood industries of the nation, for larger ROI's, in Yuan, from China and its semi-slave commie workers. A review of the rules of incorporation, the Capitalist's tool, his means to engage the common folk in his extortion, are in order! Here is a documented example of just how anti-proletariat, how cruel and how sociopathic things can get: In the 1970's, Ford sold Pinto model cars. These cars were proven death traps, fire hazards and killers, by incineration of their passengers, in even a slight rear end collision. The humane path of action was clear - the cars needed drastic modification before another sale, and another incineration of a customer could occur. What was the Capitalists' the Corporatists' sociopathic response? They elected to continue the model as is, to protect the shareholder's interests, since it was cheaper to pay off insurance claims than to change or discontinue the model! Another case: Google, torrent, the documentary movie, "Who Killed The Electric Car", and study it well. It shows the Corporatist in action, covering his own ass at the expense of the general population, the proletariat, the peons, the patriots, you and me! Think about the billions of taxpayer dollars spent on the Military/Industrial complex, and ask yourself if this does not preclude the enslavement of your sons and daughters as cannon fodder for the sole purpose of selling Military hardware? A country needs good defense - no argument here, but has America gone to extremes, to satisfy the Corporatist, the Capitalist, in making ROI? Churning money? Look closely at the American Dream - a sales line,designed to entrap common folk in unending debt - interest paying debt - good for the Capitalist debt. The popular, Capitalist, Corporatist, propaganda machine's demands, clearly, out of control, have common folk buying worthless diamond rings for permission to pro-create, McMansions they do not need, cannot afford, SUV's filled with planned obsolescence, for their synthetic, surgically altered, sex-machine, Barbie Doll partners, and then, they must golf on weekends? Save for retirement? At this higher level on the hog? In the latest styles? Drink alcohol but not smoke pot? Drive a Harley Davidson, to be cool? The list goes on and on! How far from a realistic, sustainable,practical, affordable, rewarding, life-style is this nonsense? The common folk of America are about to find out! Corporate, Capitalist, greed has reigned supreme these past few decades and with George Bush, bought the government of the day, bought both political parties, displayed the power of their money over the vote of the common folk, the peons, the proletariat, the patriot. Developed huge, powerful lobbyist factions, enriched the Military/Industrial complex,screwed the peon's pension aspirations, emptied the nation's purse in the pursuit of oil,caused the Wall Street fiasco by de-regulation, one only needs to look to the streets of Detroit City, and the demolition of the American automotive prowess in the world to understand the new, barracuda, take no prisoners, sociopathic Capitalism of the day. Even bountiful California has been raped and left in financial ruins, fields burnt from over-production, misguided water-wars, starving the proletariat,and the specter of legal self-medication with pot as a government's solution for the raped, beaten, unemployed and unemployable, poverty stricken, mal-treated, plebs. smoking pot, a new morality? I think not! Human degradation at its finest, by the Corporatists, Capitalists of the day! This new, virulent, cancerous, Capitalism, Corporatism, is a cancer in the side of Democracy, and the terminal disease of democracies the world over. America once had respect and a place in the food chain for its labor, its common folk, its peons,the plebs, the proletariat, the rank and file, the patriots. Look to the unemployables lines in America today. America no longer needs a large portion of its population, some say up to 10%, others claim as high as 20% and growing. Should America be out-sourcing, or selling out factories? Can the Capitalists, Corporatists, afford such waste of the perishable human resources like the laborer, the working class of America? Well, Just like the Ford Pinto, situation, just like the electric car situation, the sociopathic Capitalist, Corporatist, response, by Obama's decree, is to re-format these folks, transform them into something they are not, change them from what they were born and bred to be, into office workers? Green energy workers? You mean your going to take a third or fourth generation industrial welder and teach, morph, shift him and his physiognomy into something different? Change the size and strength of his fingers, to suit your illustrious plans? Plans devised to protect and excuse the Corporatists,the Capitalists? Remember: America's Capitalists bred this worker from the best European stocks for the last two hundred years, the corporatists selectively bred this individual for his traits. This cannot be undone in a single generation. It is not medically possible. To satisfy yourself as to where the country is going, search, and review the rules if incorporation, on this very same net. Then decide. be on notice, even as we speak, as this noble beast, the American worker, is put out of work by the Corporatist, Capitalists,the American Medical Association's Health Insurance officers, the modern day 'selection committees' are, for the crime of unemployment, sentencing these poor bastards and their progeny, to a life without proper medical care and and early death, in tenements, tent cities, without heat or light, not even clean bandages for their weeping wounds, in America? Yes, folks, that is the plan, like the Nazis exterminated the Jews of Europe, the 'system' exterminated the laboring, the working class of America. Capitalism, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
In times past, Capitalists,Corporatists, were controlled by the governments, respected union controls, and did not seek political clout. In America’s Golden Age, unions raged, the worker was king, the Middle Class grew, wages rose, interest on savings was paid, and money flowed in the country.
Republicans, neo-cons, the Uber-Rich,the investors, the Capitalists, the Corporatists, bought political clout, and altered the political rules of the country in their favor. With lobbyest groups they rendered the peon’s vote innocuous, with down-sizing and shady employment politics they engaged in the part-time labor rip off, downsizing, and a general, lawless, battering of labor. the final blow to the Middle Class came with off-shoring, the selling out of the very life-blood industries of the nation, for larger ROI’s, in Yuan, from China and its semi-slave commie workers.
A review of the rules of incorporation, the Capitalist’s tool, his means to engage the common folk in his extortion, are in order! Here is a documented example of just how anti-proletariat, how cruel and how sociopathic things can get:
In the 1970′s, Ford sold Pinto model cars. These cars were proven death traps, fire hazards and killers, by incineration of their passengers, in even a slight rear end collision. The humane path of action was clear – the cars needed drastic modification before another sale, and another incineration of a customer could occur. What was the Capitalists’ the Corporatists’ sociopathic response? They elected to continue the model as is, to protect the shareholder’s interests, since it was cheaper to pay off insurance claims than to change or discontinue the model!
Another case: Google, torrent, the documentary movie, “Who Killed The Electric Car”, and study it well. It shows the Corporatist in action, covering his own ass at the expense of the general population, the proletariat, the peons, the patriots, you and me!
Think about the billions of taxpayer dollars spent on the Military/Industrial complex, and ask yourself if this does not preclude the enslavement of your sons and daughters as cannon fodder for the sole purpose of selling Military hardware? A country needs good defense – no argument here, but has America gone to extremes, to satisfy the Corporatist, the Capitalist, in making ROI? Churning money?
Look closely at the American Dream – a sales line,designed to entrap common folk in unending debt – interest paying debt – good for the Capitalist debt. The popular, Capitalist, Corporatist, propaganda machine’s demands, clearly, out of control, have common folk buying worthless diamond rings for permission to pro-create, McMansions they do not need, cannot afford, SUV’s filled with planned obsolescence, for their synthetic, surgically altered, sex-machine, Barbie Doll partners, and then, they must golf on weekends? Save for retirement? At this higher level on the hog? In the latest styles? Drink alcohol but not smoke pot? Drive a Harley Davidson, to be cool? The list goes on and on! How far from a realistic, sustainable,practical, affordable, rewarding, life-style is this nonsense? The common folk of America are about to find out!
Corporate, Capitalist, greed has reigned supreme these past few decades and with George Bush, bought the government of the day, bought both political parties, displayed the power of their money over the vote of the common folk, the peons, the proletariat, the patriot. Developed huge, powerful lobbyist factions, enriched the Military/Industrial complex,screwed the peon’s pension aspirations, emptied the nation’s purse in the pursuit of oil,caused the Wall Street fiasco by de-regulation, one only needs to look to the streets of Detroit City, and the demolition of the American automotive prowess in the world to understand the new, barracuda, take no prisoners, sociopathic Capitalism of the day. Even bountiful California has been raped and left in financial ruins, fields burnt from over-production, misguided water-wars, starving the proletariat,and the specter of legal self-medication with pot as a government’s solution for the raped, beaten, unemployed and unemployable, poverty stricken, mal-treated, plebs. smoking pot, a new morality? I think not! Human degradation at its finest, by the Corporatists, Capitalists of the day!
This new, virulent, cancerous, Capitalism, Corporatism, is a cancer in the side of Democracy, and the terminal disease of democracies the world over. America once had respect and a place in the food chain for its labor, its common folk, its peons,the plebs, the proletariat, the rank and file, the patriots. Look to the unemployables lines in America today. America no longer needs a large portion of its population, some say up to 10%, others claim as high as 20% and growing. Should America be out-sourcing, or selling out factories? Can the Capitalists, Corporatists, afford such waste of the perishable human resources like the laborer, the working class of America? Well, Just like the Ford Pinto, situation, just like the electric car situation, the sociopathic Capitalist, Corporatist, response, by Obama’s decree, is to re-format these folks, transform them into something they are not, change them from what they were born and bred to be, into office workers? Green energy workers? You mean your going to take a third or fourth generation industrial welder and teach, morph, shift him and his physiognomy into something different? Change the size and strength of his fingers, to suit your illustrious plans? Plans devised to protect and excuse the Corporatists,the Capitalists? Remember: America’s Capitalists bred this worker from the best European stocks for the last two hundred years, the corporatists selectively bred this individual for his traits. This cannot be undone in a single generation. It is not medically possible.
To satisfy yourself as to where the country is going, search, and review the rules if incorporation, on this very same net. Then decide. be on notice, even as we speak, as this noble beast, the American worker, is put out of work by the Corporatist, Capitalists,the American Medical Association’s Health Insurance officers, the modern day ‘selection committees’ are, for the crime of unemployment, sentencing these poor bastards and their progeny, to a life without proper medical care and and early death, in tenements, tent cities, without heat or light, not even clean bandages for their weeping wounds, in America? Yes, folks, that is the plan, like the Nazis exterminated the Jews of Europe, the ‘system’ exterminated the laboring, the working class of America.

]]> By: Digilante http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006098 Digilante Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006098 I kinda sorta get the feeling that something big is brewing across the world. The fallout from the crisis may spawn bigger things. "May you live in interesting times" is seen as a curse, but I say bring it on. Nothing worse than the same old crud day in, day out ;-) I kinda sorta get the feeling that something big is brewing across the world. The fallout from the crisis may spawn bigger things.

“May you live in interesting times” is seen as a curse, but I say bring it on. Nothing worse than the same old crud day in, day out ;-)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006355 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006355 Anon here. I understand what you say. Completely. And I thank you for putting that on the table. When I was composing my message, my mind was thinking more of the sentiment contained in Digilante's comment, and not directly focused on the concept of capitalism itself. That same sentiment, in me, is strongly connected to the existence of the Internet, and therefore, all that it entails. I understand that the uprisings in North Africa are not about capitalism. The issue on my mind is how the Internet is making alternatives stronger. It's empowering people to do things, and do things differently. Is "anti-capitalisim" in there, somewhere? I don't know. Are non-capitalistic things happening thanks to the Internet? Yes, and many of those are things that we would understandably associate and expect to be involved in capitalistic processes, but instead show themselves to be able to operate without their involvement. Even if there wasn't any involvement of the government in the market, something like Wikileaks can still materialize and shake the concept of the state itself, at least to a degree that couldn't be done before. That's the kind of thing I had in mind: the Internet and how massively it can reorganize things and our thinking about institutions; why they're there in the first place; if the way we're connected now doesn't ask some very profound questions. Does that mean capitalism is going to die? I don't know that. But I would not be surprised AT ALL to see sentiments of that sort arising more and more. Anti-statist sentiments? Not surprised either. You know, quite frankly, goodness knows where we're headed! Anon here.
I understand what you say. Completely. And I thank you for putting that on the table.

When I was composing my message, my mind was thinking more of the sentiment contained in Digilante’s comment, and not directly focused on the concept of capitalism itself.
That same sentiment, in me, is strongly connected to the existence of the Internet, and therefore, all that it entails.

I understand that the uprisings in North Africa are not about capitalism.

The issue on my mind is how the Internet is making alternatives stronger. It’s empowering people to do things, and do things differently.
Is “anti-capitalisim” in there, somewhere? I don’t know.
Are non-capitalistic things happening thanks to the Internet? Yes, and many of those are things that we would understandably associate and expect to be involved in capitalistic processes, but instead show themselves to be able to operate without their involvement.

Even if there wasn’t any involvement of the government in the market, something like Wikileaks can still materialize and shake the concept of the state itself, at least to a degree that couldn’t be done before.
That’s the kind of thing I had in mind: the Internet and how massively it can reorganize things and our thinking about institutions; why they’re there in the first place; if the way we’re connected now doesn’t ask some very profound questions.

Does that mean capitalism is going to die? I don’t know that. But I would not be surprised AT ALL to see sentiments of that sort arising more and more. Anti-statist sentiments? Not surprised either.

You know, quite frankly, goodness knows where we’re headed!

]]> By: zartan http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006100 zartan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006100 those are some prosperous looking "anti-capitalist activists." those are some prosperous looking “anti-capitalist activists.”

]]> By: Griefer http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006101 Griefer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006101 How many of these "anti-capitalists" do you think are carrying an iPhone? How many of these “anti-capitalists” do you think are carrying an iPhone?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006368 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006368 How dare there be other opinions other than my own! Everyone should think the same as me here! ...*cough*... How dare there be other opinions other than my own! Everyone should think the same as me here!

…*cough*…

]]> By: xian http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006115 xian Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006115 The free market has spoken… expect to see flamenco and rhumba dancing at your local branch! The free market has spoken… expect to see flamenco and rhumba dancing at your local branch!

]]> By: nerak http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006116 nerak Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006116 Being an anti-capitalist doesn't preclude one from participating in the culture of technology or wearing decent clothes. Perhaps what anti-capitalism used to look like is evolving into something else? Being an anti-capitalist doesn’t preclude one from participating in the culture of technology or wearing decent clothes. Perhaps what anti-capitalism used to look like is evolving into something else?

]]> By: technogeek http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006117 technogeek Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006117 Mi Espan~ol es muy malo -- I've forgotten most of it. Does someone have a translation of the lyrics, or a subtitled version of the vid? I have to sympathize with that poor bank guard. He's just trying to do his job, but he winds up becoming part of the dance... (The right response from the bank would have been to alert security, but to have one of the guards try to buttonhole someone in the flash mob and ask how long the routine was going to run. A few more minutes? Fine, finish up and take your bows. Half an hour, or until we chase you out? That's a different kettle of worms.) Mi Espan~ol es muy malo — I’ve forgotten most of it. Does someone have a translation of the lyrics, or a subtitled version of the vid?

I have to sympathize with that poor bank guard. He’s just trying to do his job, but he winds up becoming part of the dance…

(The right response from the bank would have been to alert security, but to have one of the guards try to buttonhole someone in the flash mob and ask how long the routine was going to run. A few more minutes? Fine, finish up and take your bows. Half an hour, or until we chase you out? That’s a different kettle of worms.)

]]> By: Mister44 http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006373 Mister44 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006373 No - THIS is brilliant street theater. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ULVQOneeZE No – THIS is brilliant street theater.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ULVQOneeZE

]]> By: diracshard http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006122 diracshard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006122 @zartan, @Griefer Yeah, because any sign of prosperity and luxury of any sort is totally antithetical to any anti-capitalist movement. Strawman trolling is such fun, isn't it? @zartan, @Griefer Yeah, because any sign of prosperity and luxury of any sort is totally antithetical to any anti-capitalist movement. Strawman trolling is such fun, isn’t it?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006381 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006381 Harsh intro aside, that's a good point. Unless you define capitalism as 'not socialism', it's a relatively recent phenomenon. And even today, you could certainly argue that Saudi Arabia, for example, isn't really capitalist since it's a welfare state for citizens and quasi-slavery for non-cits. Harsh intro aside, that’s a good point. Unless you define capitalism as ‘not socialism’, it’s a relatively recent phenomenon. And even today, you could certainly argue that Saudi Arabia, for example, isn’t really capitalist since it’s a welfare state for citizens and quasi-slavery for non-cits.

]]> By: normd http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006384 normd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006384 I liked this, just wish the video was a little higher res. Arguing about what "anti-capitalist" means in this context seems silly. One of them was a man-cow. I liked this, just wish the video was a little higher res. Arguing about what “anti-capitalist” means in this context seems silly. One of them was a man-cow.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006641 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006641 I'm sorry, but this is not a rumba, either a rave. just a mix of 'Flamenco' song. Bad mix, by the way... I’m sorry, but this is not a rumba, either a rave. just a mix of ‘Flamenco’ song. Bad mix, by the way…

]]> By: dragonfrog http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006390 dragonfrog Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006390 The only word I understood in all that was the refrain, "vaqueiro vaqueiro vaqueiro". Vaqueiro means cowboy. Which maybe partially explains the cow suit. The only word I understood in all that was the refrain, “vaqueiro vaqueiro vaqueiro”. Vaqueiro means cowboy. Which maybe partially explains the cow suit.

]]> By: evilhippo http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1007670 evilhippo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1007670 No, in my view statists can be corporatists or socialists or communists or fascists but that all matters far less than the fact they are statists using the means of collective coercion rather than markets. Anti-capitalists are rarely interested in liberty, just changing the method, and the beneficiaries, of tyranny. No, in my view statists can be corporatists or socialists or communists or fascists but that all matters far less than the fact they are statists using the means of collective coercion rather than markets.

Anti-capitalists are rarely interested in liberty, just changing the method, and the beneficiaries, of tyranny.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006135 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006135 So I saw "rumba" and thought it meant "roomba", and watched for three minutes before realizing that the roombas I was hoping for weren't ever going to come. :*( So I saw “rumba” and thought it meant “roomba”, and watched for three minutes before realizing that the roombas I was hoping for weren’t ever going to come.
:*(

]]> By: marco antonio http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006394 marco antonio Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006394 Um, actually he was singing 'banquero', which means 'banker'. here's a rough translation: banquero, i tell ya ay... you have the wallet, I have the money you have nothing until i give you everything better than a Raja, with yatchs in Marbella, with you the briefcases full of 500-eu bank notes just fly, you just take them away, tick-i-tock there is no shame anymore those people with sly glares cold hearts and warm pockets you are the unnamables (something something) you adore the treasure the Idex has gone up (something) but everything is the same\ have you ever thought about working? about working instead of stealing? banker banker... Um, actually he was singing ‘banquero’, which means ‘banker’.

here’s a rough translation:

banquero, i tell ya
ay… you have the wallet, I have the money
you have nothing until i give you everything
better than a Raja, with yatchs in Marbella,
with you the briefcases full of 500-eu bank notes just fly,
you just take them away, tick-i-tock
there is no shame anymore
those people with sly glares
cold hearts and warm pockets
you are the unnamables
(something something)
you adore the treasure
the Idex has gone up
(something)
but everything is the same\
have you ever thought about working?
about working instead of stealing?
banker banker…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006139 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006139 How long before banks will advertise these kind of "protests" as an entertainment asset? How long before banks will advertise these kind of “protests” as an entertainment asset?

]]> By: marco antonio http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006399 marco antonio Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006399 ... and I'm really baffled at people's reaction at 'anti-capitalism'. Seriously you don't know what it is? - then you've been living in a capitalist society so long and blind that you've lost sight of the alternatives. Check out the wikipedia, there's plenty of information. Although I am also aware that Americans seem to be unable to understand Socialism (and other -isms) in a factual context; they have polarized the issue so much that they've turned it into a meaningless charicature of an insult. Spain is a socialist country, and we're proud of it. I, too, am against the abuse of economic power, the never-ending search for profits above all reasonable issues, the ostrasizing of the less wealthy, the increasing gap between rich and poor, the disappearance of the middle class, the dependency on credit and on banks... should I keep going? Anti-capitalism can take many shapes, and the most common one is against the excesses it takes, which are intrinsic in its for-profit structure. … and I’m really baffled at people’s reaction at ‘anti-capitalism’. Seriously you don’t know what it is? – then you’ve been living in a capitalist society so long and blind that you’ve lost sight of the alternatives.

Check out the wikipedia, there’s plenty of information. Although I am also aware that Americans seem to be unable to understand Socialism (and other -isms) in a factual context; they have polarized the issue so much that they’ve turned it into a meaningless charicature of an insult. Spain is a socialist country, and we’re proud of it.

I, too, am against the abuse of economic power, the never-ending search for profits above all reasonable issues, the ostrasizing of the less wealthy, the increasing gap between rich and poor, the disappearance of the middle class, the dependency on credit and on banks… should I keep going?

Anti-capitalism can take many shapes, and the most common one is against the excesses it takes, which are intrinsic in its for-profit structure.

]]> By: petsounds http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006149 petsounds Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006149 I'm not really sure what an "anti-capitalist" is, other than a communist. Now, an anti-corporatist or anti-fascist, that makes sense. But I appreciated the interpretive dance moves that rise above language. I’m not really sure what an “anti-capitalist” is, other than a communist. Now, an anti-corporatist or anti-fascist, that makes sense.

But I appreciated the interpretive dance moves that rise above language.

]]> By: Mister44 http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006661 Mister44 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006661 20% you say? Man, if only there were some sort of a system that promoted the exchange of goods and services between people that led to economic growth. 20% you say? Man, if only there were some sort of a system that promoted the exchange of goods and services between people that led to economic growth.

]]> By: spriggan http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006150 spriggan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006150 ...meanwhile nobody noticed the guys in clown masks robbing the bank of it's mob money. …meanwhile nobody noticed the guys in clown masks robbing the bank of it’s mob money.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006918 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006918 Actually, I thought the dancing in the bank was pretty cool. It always pisses me off to see that the biggest building in town is an overbuilt bank that no one is allowed to just hang out in. The colossal turd across the street from my house has balconies even, that nobody uses. Money by nature is social. Actually, I thought the dancing in the bank was pretty cool. It always pisses me off to see that the biggest building in town is an overbuilt bank that no one is allowed to just hang out in. The colossal turd across the street from my house has balconies even, that nobody uses. Money by nature is social.

]]> By: peterbruells http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006408 peterbruells Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006408 I gather most of them are Americans or other Anglos, where its customary to understand capitalism, private property and market-driven economy as one and the same thing. I gather most of them are Americans or other Anglos, where its customary to understand capitalism, private property and market-driven economy as one and the same thing.

]]> By: Mister44 http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006415 Mister44 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006415 Ok - I can see your point on a few of those. So what is the alternative? And what do people expect the above protest/performance to actually DO. What proactive options are there. Ok – I can see your point on a few of those. So what is the alternative?

And what do people expect the above protest/performance to actually DO. What proactive options are there.

]]> By: taghag http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006416 taghag Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006416 thank you, marco antonio. thank you, marco antonio.

]]> By: 90th Redoubt http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006161 90th Redoubt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006161 The concept of "Dancing In Our Dept" is not a new one. In Vancouver BC early in 2009 there was a series of small, un-amplified and very well received music festivals held in bank ATM rooms around the city. See video here: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?created&&note_id=501651019346 The concept of “Dancing In Our Dept” is not a new one. In Vancouver BC early in 2009 there was a series of small, un-amplified and very well received music festivals held in bank ATM rooms around the city. See video here:
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?created&&note_id=501651019346

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/01/25/anti-capitalist-rumb.html#comment-1006162 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1006162 "I'm not really sure what an "anti-capitalist" is, other than a communist." Anarchists and Wobblies also fit the anti-capitalist label. Sometimes these groups even work together against their common enemy. It works great until someone decides that they're the vanguard of something or other and starts being a total dick. “I’m not really sure what an “anti-capitalist” is, other than a communist.”

Anarchists and Wobblies also fit the anti-capitalist label. Sometimes these groups even work together against their common enemy. It works great until someone decides that they’re the vanguard of something or other and starts being a total dick.

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