Comments on: Disgraced security firm asked Bank of America to fund anti-Wikileaks/anti-Glenn Greenwald campaign http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Mon, 20 May 2013 02:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: utt73 http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023493 utt73 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023493 ORLY Palantir? http://www.palantir.com/privacy-and-civil-liberties ORLY Palantir?
http://www.palantir.com/privacy-and-civil-liberties

]]> By: kpkpkp http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023499 kpkpkp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023499 regarding "Submit fake documents and then call out the error", there is this jewel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy "The Killian documents controversy (also referred to as Memogate, Rathergate or Rathergate[1]) involved six documents critical of President George W. Bush's service in the Air National Guard in 1972–73." regarding “Submit fake documents and then call out the error”, there is this jewel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

“The Killian documents controversy (also referred to as Memogate, Rathergate or Rathergate[1]) involved six documents critical of President George W. Bush’s service in the Air National Guard in 1972–73.”

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1024525 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1024525 palantir.net does drupal stuff, palantir technology is the creepy, evil company palantir.net does drupal stuff, palantir technology is the creepy, evil company

]]> By: The Doctor http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023760 The Doctor Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023760 You've got to love the fevered imaginations of a bunch of folks who grew up during the Cold War, read about COINTELPRO, and thought "That's awesome! I'd love to get paid to do that to someone someday!" You’ve got to love the fevered imaginations of a bunch of folks who grew up during the Cold War, read about COINTELPRO, and thought “That’s awesome! I’d love to get paid to do that to someone someday!”

]]> By: Unmutual http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023512 Unmutual Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023512 They claimed the administrator's account was hacked via "social engineering". My theory still holds. They claimed the administrator’s account was hacked via “social engineering”.

My theory still holds.

]]> By: Richard http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1024290 Richard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1024290 It appears that the US Chamber of Commerce did buy into the plan: US Chamber’s Lobbyists Solicited Hackers To Sabotage Unions, Smear Chamber’s Political Opponents http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/ And the company name is HBGary Federal which is a separate entity of HBGary according to ARS, as they flesh out the back story: How one man tracked down Anonymous—and paid a heavy price http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/how-one-security-firm-tracked-anonymousand-paid-a-heavy-price.ars (Virtually) face to face: how Aaron Barr revealed himself to Anonymous http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/virtually-face-to-face-when-aaron-barr-met-anonymous.ars It appears that the US Chamber of Commerce did buy into the plan:

US Chamber’s Lobbyists Solicited Hackers To Sabotage Unions, Smear Chamber’s Political Opponents
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/

And the company name is HBGary Federal which is a separate entity of HBGary according to ARS, as they flesh out the back story:

How one man tracked down Anonymous—and paid a heavy price
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/how-one-security-firm-tracked-anonymousand-paid-a-heavy-price.ars

(Virtually) face to face: how Aaron Barr revealed himself to Anonymous
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/virtually-face-to-face-when-aaron-barr-met-anonymous.ars

]]> By: aelfscine http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023529 aelfscine Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023529 I love how a gaggle of overweight 50-year-olds in suits think they're going to be all 'secret agenty' and shit. Their whole job is pretending they're doing something worth getting paid big money for, rather than doing anything. I love how a gaggle of overweight 50-year-olds in suits think they’re going to be all ‘secret agenty’ and shit.

Their whole job is pretending they’re doing something worth getting paid big money for, rather than doing anything.

]]> By: mdh http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023534 mdh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023534 Just as soon as they pick on someone honest and hardworking. Just as soon as they pick on someone honest and hardworking.

]]> By: imag http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023799 imag Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023799 Sweet justice. Sweet justice.

]]> By: alllie http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023546 alllie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023546 I think most of us are unaware of how the wealthy, people or corporations, can attack real people. And do. (Supreme Court decisions aside I don't consider the wealthy or corporations to be real people.) I am reminded of <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/08/30/circus">The Greatest Vendetta on Earth</a> (on Salon) about how the head of Ringling Brother Barnum and Bailey paid former top CIA agents to torment a writer for 8 years because she wrote an article he didn't like. Some of the actions proposed by HBGary seem very like what has happened in the 911 truth movement. I wonder if HBGary has former CIA and FBI agents on staff. I think most of us are unaware of how the wealthy, people or corporations, can attack real people. And do. (Supreme Court decisions aside I don’t consider the wealthy or corporations to be real people.)

I am reminded of The Greatest Vendetta on Earth (on Salon) about how the head of Ringling Brother Barnum and Bailey paid former top CIA agents to torment a writer for 8 years because she wrote an article he didn’t like.

Some of the actions proposed by HBGary seem very like what has happened in the 911 truth movement. I wonder if HBGary has former CIA and FBI agents on staff.

]]> By: airshowfan http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1024078 airshowfan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1024078 I really thought that Palantir was made up of basically good guys. I personally know enough of them to be shocked that their company would ever put together a slide like this. (Heck, I'm almost ready to believe that this slide is a fake document, disinformation spread by their competitors). They apparently suggest... Disinformation? Sabotage? Fake documents? Cyber-attacks to violate the privacy/anonymity of submitters? Good grief, I want to write these guys and ask; What would your mothers think of this? And for anyone who's curious, and for the sake of balance; In the articles below, they are portrayed far more positively, much more in tune with my personal experiences of them. npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106479613 npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106538028 I really thought that Palantir was made up of basically good guys. I personally know enough of them to be shocked that their company would ever put together a slide like this. (Heck, I’m almost ready to believe that this slide is a fake document, disinformation spread by their competitors). They apparently suggest… Disinformation? Sabotage? Fake documents? Cyber-attacks to violate the privacy/anonymity of submitters? Good grief, I want to write these guys and ask; What would your mothers think of this?

And for anyone who’s curious, and for the sake of balance; In the articles below, they are portrayed far more positively, much more in tune with my personal experiences of them.

npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106479613

npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106538028

]]> By: kalkin9 http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1025381 kalkin9 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1025381 you know that this sort of stuff goes on behind the scenes, but when you actually see it... ...sends shivers down my spine you know that this sort of stuff goes on behind the scenes, but when you actually see it…

…sends shivers down my spine

]]> By: kmoser http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023604 kmoser Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023604 All their database are belong to Anonymous. (Disclaimer: I am not Anonymous.) All their database are belong to Anonymous.

(Disclaimer: I am not Anonymous.)

]]> By: lysdexia http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023622 lysdexia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023622 Apparently COINTELPRO is a growth market. :-/ Apparently COINTELPRO is a growth market. :-/

]]> By: AirPillo http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1024143 AirPillo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1024143 Yeah you're right I guess it's a perfectly possible explanation. Yeah you’re right I guess it’s a perfectly possible explanation.

]]> By: Mark Levitt http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023379 Mark Levitt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023379 Cyber attacks against another person's system? When are they getting charged with criminal conspiracy? Cyber attacks against another person’s system? When are they getting charged with criminal conspiracy?

]]> By: watchout5 http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023380 watchout5 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023380 My favorite part was their accusation of a "liberal bent". I got a liberal bent with their name on it.... My favorite part was their accusation of a “liberal bent”. I got a liberal bent with their name on it….

]]> By: Rob Gehrke http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023381 Rob Gehrke Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023381 UNCLASSIFIED : Lackeys attempting to suckle at the teat of the Military / Nat'l Security budgets. Good work Anon ! UNCLASSIFIED :

Lackeys attempting to suckle at the teat of the Military / Nat’l Security budgets. Good work Anon !

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023640 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023640 Actually, "Palantir Technologies" is currently embroiled in several lawsuits regarding their name. Actually, “Palantir Technologies” is currently embroiled in several lawsuits regarding their name.

]]> By: drew3ooo http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023386 drew3ooo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023386 People get paid to come up with crap like this? The whole presentation boils down to publicly available information, some superficial data gathering attempts and then just a single page dedicated to an actual strategy which consists of vague ideas of what type of activities would need to take place. It would have be fantastic if it turns out BoA actually sigend on to this as we'd then have verifiable information that its run by idiots. Holding off on releasing the BofA leak is turning out to be a great strategy, though, as the build up brings more characters like this out of the woodwork. People get paid to come up with crap like this? The whole presentation boils down to publicly available information, some superficial data gathering attempts and then just a single page dedicated to an actual strategy which consists of vague ideas of what type of activities would need to take place. It would have be fantastic if it turns out BoA actually sigend on to this as we’d then have verifiable information that its run by idiots. Holding off on releasing the BofA leak is turning out to be a great strategy, though, as the build up brings more characters like this out of the woodwork.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023646 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023646 Unless you're looking at a site designed by these guys: http://www.palantir.net They do some quite excellent work. Unless you’re looking at a site designed by these guys:
http://www.palantir.net

They do some quite excellent work.

]]> By: Philipshade http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1024158 Philipshade Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1024158 Apropos of nothing Palantir keeps a keg in their office for employees. Apropos of nothing Palantir keeps a keg in their office for employees.

]]> By: bjacques http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023391 bjacques Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023391 What I like is the touchingly quaint idea that neutralizing an opinion leader will take the heat off them. It's similar to the Goodfellahs of Egypt thinking they can buffalo the Street by co-opting yesterday's leaders. Parts of the document read like L. Ron Hubbard's instructions to the OSA (Office of Special Affairs) for dealing with "Suppressive Persons." See "dead agenting." Strictly amateur-hour. We're losing to these guys why? What I like is the touchingly quaint idea that neutralizing an opinion leader will take the heat off them. It’s similar to the Goodfellahs of Egypt thinking they can buffalo the Street by co-opting yesterday’s leaders.

Parts of the document read like L. Ron Hubbard’s instructions to the OSA (Office of Special Affairs) for dealing with “Suppressive Persons.” See “dead agenting.”

Strictly amateur-hour. We’re losing to these guys why?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023393 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023393 I wonder if Palantir Technologies have licence to the use of "Palantir" from the Tolkien Foundation. I wonder if Palantir Technologies have licence to the use of “Palantir” from the Tolkien Foundation.

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023655 AnthonyC Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023655 Sauron and Saruman are gone. The danger of using the palantir vanished with them. Also, remember that initially the palantir were used by Gondor and Numenor for secure communication. It wasn't until long after they were lost that Sauron started using them for his own purposes. Sauron and Saruman are gone. The danger of using the palantir vanished with them.

Also, remember that initially the palantir were used by Gondor and Numenor for secure communication. It wasn’t until long after they were lost that Sauron started using them for his own purposes.

]]> By: Marktech http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023405 Marktech Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023405 "Palantir Technologies"? An imaginative name for your company, guys, but it doesn't have entirely positive associations. “Palantir Technologies”? An imaginative name for your company, guys, but it doesn’t have entirely positive associations.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023661 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023661 For long after Denethor died, all but the strongest would only see his withered hands in the Palantir. Aule only knows what you would have seen in Sauron's. For long after Denethor died, all but the strongest would only see his withered hands in the Palantir. Aule only knows what you would have seen in Sauron’s.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023409 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023409 I wonder if the local DA has seen this... "Palantir is headquartered in sunny downtown Palo Alto, CA with offices in Tysons Corner, VA and London, UK." I wonder if the local DA has seen this…

“Palantir is headquartered in sunny downtown Palo Alto, CA with offices in Tysons Corner, VA and London, UK.”

]]> By: netsharc http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023411 netsharc Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023411 That hero's name is Glenn Greenwald with 2 N's in the first name, btw. The following is my fanboy review of Glenn: Reading <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/">his stuff</a> always cheers me up, maybe because of the fact of how brilliant his exposure of the nakedly corrupt system is. He says sometimes his readers ask him why he sounds so angry, and he replied by saying, how could he not be angry at the evil done all around the world done by the government that "represents" him. That hero’s name is Glenn Greenwald with 2 N’s in the first name, btw.

The following is my fanboy review of Glenn:

Reading his stuff always cheers me up, maybe because of the fact of how brilliant his exposure of the nakedly corrupt system is. He says sometimes his readers ask him why he sounds so angry, and he replied by saying, how could he not be angry at the evil done all around the world done by the government that “represents” him.

]]> By: turn_self_off http://boingboing.net/2011/02/10/disgraced-security-f.html#comment-1023432 turn_self_off Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1023432 "Strictly amateur-hour. We're losing to these guys why?" they are better organized? “Strictly amateur-hour. We’re losing to these guys why?”

they are better organized?

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