Comments on: Print your own Duchamp urinal http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 21:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: bartoncasey http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027593 bartoncasey Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027593 Not sure how useful a urinal that mounts on a counter and drains on your shoes would be. Not sure how useful a urinal that mounts on a counter and drains on your shoes would be.

]]> By: Avram / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027854 Avram / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027854 Checking it against this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Duchamp_Fountaine.jpg">photo of Duchamp's "Fountaine"</a>, I see that the original has much thicker walls, and various holes that didn't make it into the 3D model. Are there technical limitations of the 3D printer process that made these changes necessary? Would making the walls thicker have just cost too much? Checking it against this photo of Duchamp’s “Fountaine”, I see that the original has much thicker walls, and various holes that didn’t make it into the 3D model. Are there technical limitations of the 3D printer process that made these changes necessary? Would making the walls thicker have just cost too much?

]]> By: escowles http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027616 escowles Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027616 I don't think you're supposed to use it that way: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4059997.stm I don’t think you’re supposed to use it that way:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4059997.stm

]]> By: Skep http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027621 Skep Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027621 Yeah, I don't get it. If you follow the link ( http://robmyers.org/weblog/2011/02/shapeways-urinal-print.html ) you'll see it is only a few inches high. I guess it is an esoteric scale model rather than a utilitarian device you can 3D print. Yeah, I don’t get it. If you follow the link ( http://robmyers.org/weblog/2011/02/shapeways-urinal-print.html ) you’ll see it is only a few inches high. I guess it is an esoteric scale model rather than a utilitarian device you can 3D print.

]]> By: Skep http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027625 Skep Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027625 Ah...I hang my head in shame of my modern art ignorance :-0 ...sigh... Ah…I hang my head in shame of my modern art ignorance :-0

…sigh…

]]> By: Spookyland http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027900 Spookyland Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027900 Not to nit-pick, but it should be lying down, rather than presented as shown. Since this can be 3D printed, I'd like to see 'R. Mutt' printed on the side. That would be nice. DuChamp's original was apparently destroyed during WWII, but another stand-in readymade has been filling in for it ever since. I am not sure if DuChamp ever commented on the irony of substituing a readymade object for his readymade instance of art. Not to nit-pick, but it should be lying down, rather than presented as shown. Since this can be 3D printed, I’d like to see ‘R. Mutt’ printed on the side. That would be nice.

DuChamp’s original was apparently destroyed during WWII, but another stand-in readymade has been filling in for it ever since.

I am not sure if DuChamp ever commented on the irony of substituing a readymade object for his readymade instance of art.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027668 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027668 Here's a very practical problem for someone adept at differential geometry (that is, <b>not</b> me): what is the surface which sends all possible impinging "rays" (angle of incidence equals angle of reflection) to within its own domain? or said another way: there has got to be a urinal design that doesn't splatter. look at that thing up there ("just look at it") a flat floor? oh you know that's going to bounce out. think centralized caustic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caustic_%28mathematics%29 ) ...thankee. Here’s a very practical problem for someone adept at differential geometry (that is, not me): what is the surface which sends all possible impinging “rays” (angle of incidence equals angle of reflection) to within its own domain? or said another way: there has got to be a urinal design that doesn’t splatter. look at that thing up there (“just look at it”) a flat floor? oh you know that’s going to bounce out. think centralized caustic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caustic_%28mathematics%29 ) …thankee.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027670 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027670 Lose the plinth - at that scale Marcel would have preferred a little velvet-lined wooden box. Lose the plinth – at that scale Marcel would have preferred a little velvet-lined wooden box.

]]> By: Christopher Allan Webber http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027928 Christopher Allan Webber Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027928 Heya Avram, So, actually it's not an issue of cost. You're probably right that the "original" has thicker walls and more holes. I didn't model off of a real copy in sight. You could say this model was "inspired" by other urinals that exist, but maybe isn't that urinal itself? ;) If it bothers you, and you want to fix such things for yourself and have the skills in Blender (or know someone who does), the model is freely available to edit: http://dustycloud.org/gfx/gallery/blender/urinal.blend I'd be happy to see derivatives of this work, maybe some which more accurately match actual instances of urinals that people are fond of than I was able to do :) There was one limitation that's intentional, and that's that the "holes" don't connect to any real 3d plumbing. I thought that amount of detail may make the thing too fragile. (Also, I was too lazy.) Thanks for the comments! Also, here's a spaceship version if you want to play with it: http://dustycloud.org/tmp/uss_r_mutt_screenshot.png http://dustycloud.org/tmp/uss_r_mutt.blend Heya Avram,

So, actually it’s not an issue of cost. You’re probably right that the “original” has thicker walls and more holes. I didn’t model off of a real copy in sight. You could say this model was “inspired” by other urinals that exist, but maybe isn’t that urinal itself? ;)

If it bothers you, and you want to fix such things for yourself and have the skills in Blender (or know someone who does), the model is freely available to edit:

http://dustycloud.org/gfx/gallery/blender/urinal.blend

I’d be happy to see derivatives of this work, maybe some which more accurately match actual instances of urinals that people are fond of than I was able to do :)

There was one limitation that’s intentional, and that’s that the “holes” don’t connect to any real 3d plumbing. I thought that amount of detail may make the thing too fragile. (Also, I was too lazy.)

Thanks for the comments! Also, here’s a spaceship version if you want to play with it:

http://dustycloud.org/tmp/uss_r_mutt_screenshot.png
http://dustycloud.org/tmp/uss_r_mutt.blend

]]> By: Christopher Allan Webber http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027933 Christopher Allan Webber Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027933 Also I modeled the walls before I realized it was too thin. I could have fixed it maybe but at that point with the detail I put in it might have taken a long time to get it right without messing with the geometry. It's probably fixable, but hard. The holes wouldn't be hard to fix. And Rob Myers informs me that it *would* have cost more if it were thicker. I wouldn't know! I'm not the one with the printed copy (though probably I should get one!) Also I modeled the walls before I realized it was too thin. I could have fixed it maybe but at that point with the detail I put in it might have taken a long time to get it right without messing with the geometry. It’s probably fixable, but hard. The holes wouldn’t be hard to fix.

And Rob Myers informs me that it *would* have cost more if it were thicker. I wouldn’t know! I’m not the one with the printed copy (though probably I should get one!)

]]> By: irksome http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027684 irksome Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027684 That is not a pipe. That is not a pipe.

]]> By: Rob Myers http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027948 Rob Myers Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027948 It is lying down on some copier paper in the photo. I wish I could afford to print it in steel or glass for the Jeff Koons crossover effect. A pipe might make a good next entry in the series. :-) It is lying down on some copier paper in the photo.

I wish I could afford to print it in steel or glass for the Jeff Koons crossover effect.

A pipe might make a good next entry in the series. :-)

]]> By: Donald Petersen http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027696 Donald Petersen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027696 <blockquote>Duchamp has influenced many contemporary artists, including Tracey Emin - her unmade bed was inspired by the French artist.</blockquote> Sigh... if only the world knew the inspirations behind my own series of unmade beds.

Duchamp has influenced many contemporary artists, including Tracey Emin – her unmade bed was inspired by the French artist.

Sigh… if only the world knew the inspirations behind my own series of unmade beds.

]]> By: PaulR http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027708 PaulR Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027708 Maybe...you're supposed to put your, um, ding-a-ling, in the hole in the front so you can get a 'pipe'. To the people who speak French: you can go ahead and snigger now. Maybe…you’re supposed to put your, um, ding-a-ling, in the hole in the front so you can get a ‘pipe’.

To the people who speak French: you can go ahead and snigger now.

]]> By: Christopher Allan Webber http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027713 Christopher Allan Webber Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027713 Wow! I can't believe this made it on boingboing :) If you use Blender, you can download the .blend from here: http://dustycloud.org/gfx/gallery/blender/urinal.blend (CC BY-SA 3.0 also, of course) and play around with it (Use the Blender 2.5X series). More on my blog: http://dustycloud.org/blog/2011/2/15/duchamp-fountain-urinal-model Wow! I can’t believe this made it on boingboing :)

If you use Blender, you can download the .blend from here: http://dustycloud.org/gfx/gallery/blender/urinal.blend (CC BY-SA 3.0 also, of course) and play around with it (Use the Blender 2.5X series).

More on my blog: http://dustycloud.org/blog/2011/2/15/duchamp-fountain-urinal-model

]]> By: LushMojo http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027714 LushMojo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027714 That's not a Teddy DuChamp urinal, is it? 'Cause, you know, his dad is a looney up in the nuthouse in Togus. That’s not a Teddy DuChamp urinal, is it? ‘Cause, you know, his dad is a looney up in the nuthouse in Togus.

]]> By: Freddie Freelance http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027746 Freddie Freelance Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027746 This is Not a Pipe. This is Not a Pipe.

]]> By: Flashman http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1028003 Flashman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1028003 Ha! Very nice. I suggested just this thing in a comment here a couple of days ago: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/12/jeff-koonss-claim-to.html#comment-1025453 Now, how litigious are the heirs of M.Duchamp? Ha! Very nice. I suggested just this thing in a comment here a couple of days ago:
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/12/jeff-koonss-claim-to.html#comment-1025453

Now, how litigious are the heirs of M.Duchamp?

]]> By: Atvaark http://boingboing.net/2011/02/15/print-your-own-ducha.html#comment-1027824 Atvaark Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1027824 When the takedown notice comes, here's how you can comply: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4587988.stm Just take it down. When the takedown notice comes, here’s how you can comply: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4587988.stm

Just take it down.

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