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		<title>By: ill lich</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029378</link>
		<dc:creator>ill lich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question to conservatives:

I understand that most of you love Fox News, and probably agree with them 99% of the time (if not more), but aren&#039;t you concerned that Fox News is trying to control you like little children?  Here is a case of poll, perhaps we could even consider it a mock election, and they are trying to obscure something that &lt;i&gt;the majority&lt;/i&gt; voted for.  Don&#039;t try to tell me it was an obvious mistake, what professional news team makes a mistake like that?  They would have had to dig up last years footage when this years footage was handy, just brought in by their correspondents.  They have been caught doing this kind of thing on several occasions, it isn&#039;t an isolated incident.


I suppose there will be some who say &quot;the liberal media lies all the time!&quot;  Fine, but you guys don&#039;t listen to the &quot;liberal media&quot; anyway, so why should that matter?  Here is a case of the team you are supposed to trust deliberately lying to you, apparently because they don&#039;t like the will of the CPAC majority.

Maybe you can forgive them this time, but there will come a day when Roger Ailes directs all his on air cheerleaders to throw their full support behind something you are opposed to.  In a democracy the will of the majority counts, not the will of a rich man with the biggest bullhorn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question to conservatives:</p>
<p>I understand that most of you love Fox News, and probably agree with them 99% of the time (if not more), but aren&#8217;t you concerned that Fox News is trying to control you like little children?  Here is a case of poll, perhaps we could even consider it a mock election, and they are trying to obscure something that <i>the majority</i> voted for.  Don&#8217;t try to tell me it was an obvious mistake, what professional news team makes a mistake like that?  They would have had to dig up last years footage when this years footage was handy, just brought in by their correspondents.  They have been caught doing this kind of thing on several occasions, it isn&#8217;t an isolated incident.</p>
<p>I suppose there will be some who say &#8220;the liberal media lies all the time!&#8221;  Fine, but you guys don&#8217;t listen to the &#8220;liberal media&#8221; anyway, so why should that matter?  Here is a case of the team you are supposed to trust deliberately lying to you, apparently because they don&#8217;t like the will of the CPAC majority.</p>
<p>Maybe you can forgive them this time, but there will come a day when Roger Ailes directs all his on air cheerleaders to throw their full support behind something you are opposed to.  In a democracy the will of the majority counts, not the will of a rich man with the biggest bullhorn.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmers</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1030146</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Fox did was ridiculous, but that video SUCKED -- it totally buries the lede! Just show that they broadcast the wrong announcement, THEN get into the details.  Why am I waiting a few minutes to find out what they did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Fox did was ridiculous, but that video SUCKED &#8212; it totally buries the lede! Just show that they broadcast the wrong announcement, THEN get into the details.  Why am I waiting a few minutes to find out what they did?</p>
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		<title>By: sapere_aude</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029125</link>
		<dc:creator>sapere_aude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you don&#039;t watch Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.</description>
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		<title>By: teufelsdroch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029126</link>
		<dc:creator>teufelsdroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Trolls_Trolling_Trolls&quot;&gt;Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls&lt;/a&gt;. AKA &#039;pissing in an ocean of piss&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Trolls_Trolling_Trolls">Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls</a>. AKA &#8216;pissing in an ocean of piss&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: weatherman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029127</link>
		<dc:creator>weatherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this is as a rather encouraging sign that the Republicans are on the verge of completely coming apart. Fox is trying hard to support the party, only to reveal itself as biased not just against Democrats but against elements of the Republican party as well. They&#039;ll support the Tea Baggers in some cases, but not when it&#039;s against the party line. I&#039;m not even sure Fox knows what it stands for at this point. It&#039;s unraveling, just like the Republicans with their contradictory ideas of lowering taxes while increasing expenditures, taking advantage of societal infrastructure while ignoring externalities, and loving this country while taking every possible opportunity to make it unable to compete in the world economy. Their philosophy has never actually made sense, and now when they&#039;re actually forced to argue with a fool like Ron Paul one truly can&#039;t tell the difference, and Fox can&#039;t figure out who to keep the camera focused on. Maybe I&#039;m just being optimistic, but I think there&#039;s a good chance that the alliance between Republicans and Fox is ultimately going to have them gnawing on each other&#039;s legs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this is as a rather encouraging sign that the Republicans are on the verge of completely coming apart. Fox is trying hard to support the party, only to reveal itself as biased not just against Democrats but against elements of the Republican party as well. They&#8217;ll support the Tea Baggers in some cases, but not when it&#8217;s against the party line. I&#8217;m not even sure Fox knows what it stands for at this point. It&#8217;s unraveling, just like the Republicans with their contradictory ideas of lowering taxes while increasing expenditures, taking advantage of societal infrastructure while ignoring externalities, and loving this country while taking every possible opportunity to make it unable to compete in the world economy. Their philosophy has never actually made sense, and now when they&#8217;re actually forced to argue with a fool like Ron Paul one truly can&#8217;t tell the difference, and Fox can&#8217;t figure out who to keep the camera focused on. Maybe I&#8217;m just being optimistic, but I think there&#8217;s a good chance that the alliance between Republicans and Fox is ultimately going to have them gnawing on each other&#8217;s legs. </p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029641</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone make a better version of this video?

It could make the exact same point much tighter and more effectively if it were culled down to 30 seconds.

Lose the stupid robot voice, don&#039;t play &quot;the deception&quot; again and again and again superimposed on each other. Get to the real footage sooner.

Show the Fox clip once. Show the audio (was there really no video?) from 2010. Yes, we&#039;ll instantly get that they&#039;re the same, you don&#039;t need to repeat it multiple times. And then get to the real footage within 30 seconds.

Then it would be a clip people would actually watch until the end and want to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone make a better version of this video?</p>
<p>It could make the exact same point much tighter and more effectively if it were culled down to 30 seconds.</p>
<p>Lose the stupid robot voice, don&#8217;t play &#8220;the deception&#8221; again and again and again superimposed on each other. Get to the real footage sooner.</p>
<p>Show the Fox clip once. Show the audio (was there really no video?) from 2010. Yes, we&#8217;ll instantly get that they&#8217;re the same, you don&#8217;t need to repeat it multiple times. And then get to the real footage within 30 seconds.</p>
<p>Then it would be a clip people would actually watch until the end and want to share.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Rizos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029133</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Rizos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think we should be very, very concerned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know what pisses me off more, FOX&#039;s flagrant propagandizing, or public apathy to the face. FOX NEWS is single-handedly responsible for pushing this country way farther to the right than it should reasonably be, and for taking public discourse from relevant and timely issues for the sake of distraction and spectacle.

Upset that Wall Street ran off with your pension fund? Nope. Upset that Obama is a sekrit muslin mustard-gate terrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think we should be very, very concerned.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what pisses me off more, FOX&#8217;s flagrant propagandizing, or public apathy to the face. FOX NEWS is single-handedly responsible for pushing this country way farther to the right than it should reasonably be, and for taking public discourse from relevant and timely issues for the sake of distraction and spectacle.</p>
<p>Upset that Wall Street ran off with your pension fund? Nope. Upset that Obama is a sekrit muslin mustard-gate terrist.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029389</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t necessarily follow. My understanding is that popular shows and movies are where they make money, and Fox News is what they spend it on. They wouldn&#039;t be doing it if it wasn&#039;t a good way to promote their views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t necessarily follow. My understanding is that popular shows and movies are where they make money, and Fox News is what they spend it on. They wouldn&#8217;t be doing it if it wasn&#8217;t a good way to promote their views.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029136</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not their first time and probably not their last. They have been caught at least two times previously &quot;mixing&quot; the wrong clips or edited clips. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, do I detect a pattern?
Ron Paul? I wanted to vote for Rupaul!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not their first time and probably not their last. They have been caught at least two times previously &#8220;mixing&#8221; the wrong clips or edited clips. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, do I detect a pattern?<br />
Ron Paul? I wanted to vote for Rupaul!!!</p>
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		<title>By: unclemike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029392</link>
		<dc:creator>unclemike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But he wasn&#039;t booed (at least, this year he wasn&#039;t). So why would an advisor say anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But he wasn&#8217;t booed (at least, this year he wasn&#8217;t). So why would an advisor say anything?</p>
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		<title>By: teufelsdroch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029137</link>
		<dc:creator>teufelsdroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude with a cameraphone:&#039;I&#039;m gonna troll this troll! LOL!&#039;

Fox news:&#039;Some troll tried to troll our troll. But guess what? We trolled him! LOL!&#039;

Boingboing:&#039;We&#039;re trolling because this obvious troll got trolled, and THEN they trolled the troll. LOL!&#039; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude with a cameraphone:&#8217;I'm gonna troll this troll! LOL!&#8217;</p>
<p>Fox news:&#8217;Some troll tried to troll our troll. But guess what? We trolled him! LOL!&#8217;</p>
<p>Boingboing:&#8217;We&#8217;re trolling because this obvious troll got trolled, and THEN they trolled the troll. LOL!&#8217; </p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029139</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;--i&#039;m just wondering why ron paul didn&#039;t call fox on it when he was interviewed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As Paul states in the interview he wasn&#039;t present at the event. Even if he had been, it might have been easier to believe that the boos just hadn&#039;t been audible from where he was standing than the network interviewing him had completely doctored the footage. 

Besides, yelling &quot;that footage was DOCTORED!&quot; would have made Paul look like a loopy conspiracy theorist (well, more so) if he didn&#039;t have proof handy. It will be interesting to see how he reacts now that he does have such proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8211;i&#8217;m just wondering why ron paul didn&#8217;t call fox on it when he was interviewed.</p></blockquote>
<p>As Paul states in the interview he wasn&#8217;t present at the event. Even if he had been, it might have been easier to believe that the boos just hadn&#8217;t been audible from where he was standing than the network interviewing him had completely doctored the footage. </p>
<p>Besides, yelling &#8220;that footage was DOCTORED!&#8221; would have made Paul look like a loopy conspiracy theorist (well, more so) if he didn&#8217;t have proof handy. It will be interesting to see how he reacts now that he does have such proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Gifer123</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029140</link>
		<dc:creator>Gifer123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to say that even I think this is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time and that fox news is just exposing its true nature even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to say that even I think this is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time and that fox news is just exposing its true nature even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029653</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not propaganda, it&#039;s a farce. Most conservatives are frustrated at these claims that Fox somehow represents their viewpoint.

Then again, MSNBC and CNN are barely any better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not propaganda, it&#8217;s a farce. Most conservatives are frustrated at these claims that Fox somehow represents their viewpoint.</p>
<p>Then again, MSNBC and CNN are barely any better now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029142</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can we call Fox News out for being a propaganda machine now? This seems to confirm what everyone knows, yet no conservative will admit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Every conservative I know admits it.  I admit it.  Ron Paul has said it.  Why do you think we conservatives don&#039;t know this?

Who is supposed to stop them from doing this?

Hint:  Not conservatives.

Another hint:  Not republicans.

One more hint:  you know that guy you see every morning when you are shaving?  That liberal guy?  It&#039;s him.

Or to put it another way: &lt;i&gt;What are you going to do about it, Whitey?&lt;/i&gt;  Nothing, that&#039;s what - unless you count whining.  So don&#039;t expect anything to change.

Conservatives are hardly going to attack your enemies for you if you are too weak and timid to do it yourselves - we&#039;d rather go after the Huffington Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can we call Fox News out for being a propaganda machine now? This seems to confirm what everyone knows, yet no conservative will admit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Every conservative I know admits it.  I admit it.  Ron Paul has said it.  Why do you think we conservatives don&#8217;t know this?</p>
<p>Who is supposed to stop them from doing this?</p>
<p>Hint:  Not conservatives.</p>
<p>Another hint:  Not republicans.</p>
<p>One more hint:  you know that guy you see every morning when you are shaving?  That liberal guy?  It&#8217;s him.</p>
<p>Or to put it another way: <i>What are you going to do about it, Whitey?</i>  Nothing, that&#8217;s what &#8211; unless you count whining.  So don&#8217;t expect anything to change.</p>
<p>Conservatives are hardly going to attack your enemies for you if you are too weak and timid to do it yourselves &#8211; we&#8217;d rather go after the Huffington Post.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MSM do this on a regular basis.
Nice to see it is making the rounds and getting some attention.

Here is a CNN staged report on the first Gulf War in Iraq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LvNIUHgnGk

They all do it and should pay heavy fines for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSM do this on a regular basis.<br />
Nice to see it is making the rounds and getting some attention.</p>
<p>Here is a CNN staged report on the first Gulf War in Iraq.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LvNIUHgnGk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LvNIUHgnGk</a></p>
<p>They all do it and should pay heavy fines for it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Llopis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029144</link>
		<dc:creator>David Llopis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that posting this on BoingBoing is like preaching to the choir, but here&#039;s a way to salvage it:
Post this link to Facebook so that your â€œfriends of friendsâ€ will see it, some of whom won&#039;t be members of you liberal bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that posting this on BoingBoing is like preaching to the choir, but here&#8217;s a way to salvage it:<br />
Post this link to Facebook so that your â€œfriends of friendsâ€ will see it, some of whom won&#8217;t be members of you liberal bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablito</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029400</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, I&#039;m a little disappointed in this effort.

My Dad likes to watch Fox News to get his blood boiling. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s very healthy, but I do like watching the odd You Tube clip for the hilarity.

So I sat down to watch some delicious Fox &quot;news&quot; bashing.

The first example was a classic Fox manufacturing news moment.

The bonus Fox misbehaviour on the other hand? I watched the majority of both clips to see how they had heavily edited the footage, and to be honest there didn&#039;t seem to be that much of a difference! I&#039;d hardly call it heavily edited. Indeed for such boring footage they showed a hell of a lot of it. I didn&#039;t watch the mutual wankfest that followed between ORLY and the other muppet, so maybe there was something there.

There is simply no need to grasp at straws like that when criticising Fox, they give so much ammunition.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, I&#8217;m a little disappointed in this effort.</p>
<p>My Dad likes to watch Fox News to get his blood boiling. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s very healthy, but I do like watching the odd You Tube clip for the hilarity.</p>
<p>So I sat down to watch some delicious Fox &#8220;news&#8221; bashing.</p>
<p>The first example was a classic Fox manufacturing news moment.</p>
<p>The bonus Fox misbehaviour on the other hand? I watched the majority of both clips to see how they had heavily edited the footage, and to be honest there didn&#8217;t seem to be that much of a difference! I&#8217;d hardly call it heavily edited. Indeed for such boring footage they showed a hell of a lot of it. I didn&#8217;t watch the mutual wankfest that followed between ORLY and the other muppet, so maybe there was something there.</p>
<p>There is simply no need to grasp at straws like that when criticising Fox, they give so much ammunition.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesla_Gril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029145</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesla_Gril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--i considered the idea that he wasn&#039;t there, but surely he would have been aware of that from advisers before the interview.  i wouldn&#039;t expect paul to yell, but i would expect him to calmly correct the inaccuracy.  it&#039;s what he does best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;i considered the idea that he wasn&#8217;t there, but surely he would have been aware of that from advisers before the interview.  i wouldn&#8217;t expect paul to yell, but i would expect him to calmly correct the inaccuracy.  it&#8217;s what he does best.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceronomus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029401</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceronomus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee Antinous, tell me how you REALLY feel.

Look, I&#039;ve looked at a lot of his policy stances and, while he certainly isn&#039;t anywhere near my first choice? He&#039;s a HELL of a lot better than McCain, Palin, or Romney.

Maybe chill out a bit before you start looking daggers my way ehh? I thought Mods were meant to quell outbursts, not start them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Antinous, tell me how you REALLY feel.</p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;ve looked at a lot of his policy stances and, while he certainly isn&#8217;t anywhere near my first choice? He&#8217;s a HELL of a lot better than McCain, Palin, or Romney.</p>
<p>Maybe chill out a bit before you start looking daggers my way ehh? I thought Mods were meant to quell outbursts, not start them.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029146</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not like they haven&#039;t been caught multiple times at this stuff. It&#039;s SOP to intercut footage of Tea Party rallies with bigger crowds from other demonstrations. I&#039;m surprised that they haven&#039;t &#039;accidentally&#039; used VE Day footage yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not like they haven&#8217;t been caught multiple times at this stuff. It&#8217;s SOP to intercut footage of Tea Party rallies with bigger crowds from other demonstrations. I&#8217;m surprised that they haven&#8217;t &#8216;accidentally&#8217; used VE Day footage yet.</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029402</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wish there was something the public could do about it.&lt;/i&gt;
@4: Maybe we could include Fox in a randomised, double-blind talcum-powder quality test? This would involve mailing them anonymous samples of talcum-powder in unmarked envelopes... I&#039;m &lt;i&gt;sure&lt;/i&gt; it wouldn&#039;t be mistaken for anything.

I&#039;m just happy I don&#039;t have to deal with the shit-fight that Fux creates in the US. My favourite method would involve the old technique of: infuriate-until-a-punch-is-thrown-then-absolutely-destroy-opponent. Violence &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the answer when idiots are making up their own reality and expecting us to join in.

Can the next idiot who decides to lose their shit &lt;i&gt;please&lt;/i&gt; target Fox? Burning dowm some of their premises is the least you could do for the greater good of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I wish there was something the public could do about it.</i><br />
@4: Maybe we could include Fox in a randomised, double-blind talcum-powder quality test? This would involve mailing them anonymous samples of talcum-powder in unmarked envelopes&#8230; I&#8217;m <i>sure</i> it wouldn&#8217;t be mistaken for anything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just happy I don&#8217;t have to deal with the shit-fight that Fux creates in the US. My favourite method would involve the old technique of: infuriate-until-a-punch-is-thrown-then-absolutely-destroy-opponent. Violence <i>is</i> the answer when idiots are making up their own reality and expecting us to join in.</p>
<p>Can the next idiot who decides to lose their shit <i>please</i> target Fox? Burning dowm some of their premises is the least you could do for the greater good of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1034779</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be&quot;, in the quote you&#039;ve published, shows a pretty clear harbinger of how Dr. Paul&#039;s views would (and have) evolved in the eight years since that article was written.

Ron Paul&#039;s mainstream American religious views predispose him to homophobic bigotry - there&#039;s no doubt about that.  However, he has struggled with the conflict between his religious views and his ideas about personal liberty, and more recently (like, for example, during his speech to CPAC, partially sponsored by a gay organization) he has called for tolerance, even acceptance of individual behavior that he personally disapproves.

Pretty small beer, I know.  As a gay man you don&#039;t have any reason to support a politician who thinks you are cursed and depraved, even though he has come to believe the mechanisms of government have no business in your bedroom.  I only bring this up because it&#039;s a major difference between Paul &lt;i&gt;pere&lt;/i&gt; and Paul &lt;i&gt;fils&lt;/i&gt; - Rand Paul has not yet evolved to the point of being willing to &quot;stand united&quot; with his countrymen who are gay or subscribe to non-Christian religions.  You would do well to separate the two, and use your bully pulpit to bring the separation forward, because Ron Paul&#039;s message of individual liberty and responsibility, (combined with his demonstrated personal integrity) are increasingly popular in this country.  It would be a shame if the son were to ride to power on the coat-tails of the more distinguished father, but that seems likely to happen.

Ron Paul is like the Taliban&#039;s leading lights; fundamentally wrong in some of his ideas, but noticeably consistent and honorable in his application of his principles.  He is not a liar or a thief, which makes him one of about three Americans in Congress who can make that claim.  That integrity gives him a certain power which I would hope his less principled, less thoughtful son will not inherit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be&#8221;, in the quote you&#8217;ve published, shows a pretty clear harbinger of how Dr. Paul&#8217;s views would (and have) evolved in the eight years since that article was written.</p>
<p>Ron Paul&#8217;s mainstream American religious views predispose him to homophobic bigotry &#8211; there&#8217;s no doubt about that.  However, he has struggled with the conflict between his religious views and his ideas about personal liberty, and more recently (like, for example, during his speech to CPAC, partially sponsored by a gay organization) he has called for tolerance, even acceptance of individual behavior that he personally disapproves.</p>
<p>Pretty small beer, I know.  As a gay man you don&#8217;t have any reason to support a politician who thinks you are cursed and depraved, even though he has come to believe the mechanisms of government have no business in your bedroom.  I only bring this up because it&#8217;s a major difference between Paul <i>pere</i> and Paul <i>fils</i> &#8211; Rand Paul has not yet evolved to the point of being willing to &#8220;stand united&#8221; with his countrymen who are gay or subscribe to non-Christian religions.  You would do well to separate the two, and use your bully pulpit to bring the separation forward, because Ron Paul&#8217;s message of individual liberty and responsibility, (combined with his demonstrated personal integrity) are increasingly popular in this country.  It would be a shame if the son were to ride to power on the coat-tails of the more distinguished father, but that seems likely to happen.</p>
<p>Ron Paul is like the Taliban&#8217;s leading lights; fundamentally wrong in some of his ideas, but noticeably consistent and honorable in his application of his principles.  He is not a liar or a thief, which makes him one of about three Americans in Congress who can make that claim.  That integrity gives him a certain power which I would hope his less principled, less thoughtful son will not inherit.</p>
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		<title>By: andygates</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029148</link>
		<dc:creator>andygates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Fox&#039;s faking is as easily debunked as China state TV&#039;s faking of a missile test with Top Gun footage?  Bad Fox!  Spank!

&quot;With sufficient eyeballs, all propaganda is laughable&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Fox&#8217;s faking is as easily debunked as China state TV&#8217;s faking of a missile test with Top Gun footage?  Bad Fox!  Spank!</p>
<p>&#8220;With sufficient eyeballs, all propaganda is laughable&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029404</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this a crime? Is there a lawsuit to be had here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this a crime? Is there a lawsuit to be had here?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029151</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No idea how that turned into a reply to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No idea how that turned into a reply to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029152</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@weatherman #32

&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not even sure Fox knows what it stands for at this point.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mike Royko spelled out exactly what Fox stands for, decades ago, when he quite the Chicago Sun-Times after Rupert Murdoch bought it: 

&lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mike_Royko#Pulitzer_Prize-winning_columnist_and_best-selling_author&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;No self-respecting fish would want to be wrapped in a Murdoch paper&quot;, and &quot;[H]is goal is not quality journalism. His goal is vast power for Rupert Murdoch, political power&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/a&gt;



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@weatherman #32</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m not even sure Fox knows what it stands for at this point.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mike Royko spelled out exactly what Fox stands for, decades ago, when he quite the Chicago Sun-Times after Rupert Murdoch bought it: </p>
<p><a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mike_Royko#Pulitzer_Prize-winning_columnist_and_best-selling_author"><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;No self-respecting fish would want to be wrapped in a Murdoch paper&#8221;, and &#8220;[H]is goal is not quality journalism. His goal is vast power for Rupert Murdoch, political power&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p></a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029410</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cable is still the first place most people hear the news, priming them for the kind of news they will look for on the Internet.  Every other private home, every gymnasium aerobics room, every tavern, hotel breakfast room and public lounge has a television screen going 24/7.  Please don&#039;t fool yourself.  It is highly effective and will remain so for a good long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cable is still the first place most people hear the news, priming them for the kind of news they will look for on the Internet.  Every other private home, every gymnasium aerobics room, every tavern, hotel breakfast room and public lounge has a television screen going 24/7.  Please don&#8217;t fool yourself.  It is highly effective and will remain so for a good long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029155</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt Paul&#039;s advisers thought to tell him &quot;there were no people booing you at the event, so if Fox News shows you footage implying otherwise it&#039;s probably fake and you should immediately call them out on it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt Paul&#8217;s advisers thought to tell him &#8220;there were no people booing you at the event, so if Fox News shows you footage implying otherwise it&#8217;s probably fake and you should immediately call them out on it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-faki.html#comment-1029156</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul Wins CPAC Straw Poll on YouTube&#039;s FoxNewsChannel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLTR5JV8PUo

(Texas congressman responds to mixed reaction following second victory in a row)

According to http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-airing-of-old-cpac-footage-showing-crowd-booing-ron-paul-was-a-mistake/

Fox News Said:
â€œWe made a mistake with some of the video we aired, and plan on issuing a correction on Americaâ€™s Newsroom tomorrow morning explaining exactly what happened.â€

See here for many wise thoughts on propaganda and how it works:
http://fora.tv/search_video?q=propaganda&amp;x=0&amp;y=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul Wins CPAC Straw Poll on YouTube&#8217;s FoxNewsChannel<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLTR5JV8PUo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLTR5JV8PUo</a></p>
<p>(Texas congressman responds to mixed reaction following second victory in a row)</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-airing-of-old-cpac-footage-showing-crowd-booing-ron-paul-was-a-mistake/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-airing-of-old-cpac-footage-showing-crowd-booing-ron-paul-was-a-mistake/</a></p>
<p>Fox News Said:<br />
â€œWe made a mistake with some of the video we aired, and plan on issuing a correction on Americaâ€™s Newsroom tomorrow morning explaining exactly what happened.â€</p>
<p>See here for many wise thoughts on propaganda and how it works:<br />
<a href="http://fora.tv/search_video?q=propaganda&#038;x=0&#038;y=0" rel="nofollow">http://fora.tv/search_video?q=propaganda&#038;x=0&#038;y=0</a></p>
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