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		<title>By: Hagrid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033216</link>
		<dc:creator>Hagrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely worded  as questions...? ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: semiotix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033473</link>
		<dc:creator>semiotix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to the &quot;paper trail&quot; aspect of things, consider that a well-executed lawsuit trap would leave little or no public record. If I trick/cajole/enrage you into doing something that&#039;s a textbook, black-and-white tort, your lawyer is going to tell you, &quot;you&#039;re boned. Settle.&quot; And that would all happen out of the public view.

On another topic--I know saying this is going to get me DDoSed &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; sent to hell with the sodomites and Iraq War casualties, but Anonymous and WBC do have some points in common. They both exploit the gaps between the ideal society most of us imagine is possible, and the rules/systems/procedures/traditions we make in an attempt to structure that society. Of course they do it for different reasons and in different ways, but that&#039;s pretty basic to their respective existences. &quot;Nice system! Guess I&#039;ll fuck with it now.&quot;

Sure, maybe the average WBC henchman is just a bored grifter-in-training, and maybe your average Anonymouse leads a secret life as a suburban professional with 2.5 kids and a passion for lawn care. But the organizations themselves definitely both exist in that chaotic noise associated with sufficiently complex systems--the kind that gets louder and harder to eradicate the more you try to &quot;fix&quot; it. 

Which is why I&#039;ll score this a win for Anonymous, by the way, even though they&#039;re on defense for once. Never mind getting sued by WBC; even &quot;defeating&quot; them by whatever Anonymousy means wouldn&#039;t work. It&#039;s just part of the landscape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to the &#8220;paper trail&#8221; aspect of things, consider that a well-executed lawsuit trap would leave little or no public record. If I trick/cajole/enrage you into doing something that&#8217;s a textbook, black-and-white tort, your lawyer is going to tell you, &#8220;you&#8217;re boned. Settle.&#8221; And that would all happen out of the public view.</p>
<p>On another topic&#8211;I know saying this is going to get me DDoSed <i>and</i> sent to hell with the sodomites and Iraq War casualties, but Anonymous and WBC do have some points in common. They both exploit the gaps between the ideal society most of us imagine is possible, and the rules/systems/procedures/traditions we make in an attempt to structure that society. Of course they do it for different reasons and in different ways, but that&#8217;s pretty basic to their respective existences. &#8220;Nice system! Guess I&#8217;ll fuck with it now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, maybe the average WBC henchman is just a bored grifter-in-training, and maybe your average Anonymouse leads a secret life as a suburban professional with 2.5 kids and a passion for lawn care. But the organizations themselves definitely both exist in that chaotic noise associated with sufficiently complex systems&#8211;the kind that gets louder and harder to eradicate the more you try to &#8220;fix&#8221; it. </p>
<p>Which is why I&#8217;ll score this a win for Anonymous, by the way, even though they&#8217;re on defense for once. Never mind getting sued by WBC; even &#8220;defeating&#8221; them by whatever Anonymousy means wouldn&#8217;t work. It&#8217;s just part of the landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: ROSSINDETROIT</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033218</link>
		<dc:creator>ROSSINDETROIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WBC is a parasite that infests the First Amendment.</description>
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		<title>By: RedMonkey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033219</link>
		<dc:creator>RedMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure it is a scam, they have tried to enter Canada on occasion to protest similar high-profile funerals here (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2008/08/08/westboro-protest.html) - but we don&#039;t &quot;free&quot; speech, we have reams of law on prohibiting hate-speech which they may run afoul of, further even if they did provoke a physical attach the attack would have happened in Canada, and thus the civil suit would be subjected to our civil proceeding which are: 
a) extremely slow, 
b) extremely low damages wise - our damages for physical injuries are not significant certainly not worth suing anyone over as a business. 

Perhaps there, like in Anonymous, they have off-shoots within the organization that are doing what they do for entirely different reasons (i.e. hatred and bigotry, rather than profit).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure it is a scam, they have tried to enter Canada on occasion to protest similar high-profile funerals here (<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2008/08/08/westboro-protest.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2008/08/08/westboro-protest.html</a>) &#8211; but we don&#8217;t &#8220;free&#8221; speech, we have reams of law on prohibiting hate-speech which they may run afoul of, further even if they did provoke a physical attach the attack would have happened in Canada, and thus the civil suit would be subjected to our civil proceeding which are:<br />
a) extremely slow,<br />
b) extremely low damages wise &#8211; our damages for physical injuries are not significant certainly not worth suing anyone over as a business. </p>
<p>Perhaps there, like in Anonymous, they have off-shoots within the organization that are doing what they do for entirely different reasons (i.e. hatred and bigotry, rather than profit).</p>
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		<title>By: BBNinja</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033482</link>
		<dc:creator>BBNinja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All their ports are open and &quot;Anonymous&quot; issued a &quot;press release&quot;?

This definitely sounds like something the Phelps would do.  Why DDOS their website anyway?  It&#039;s funny.  There are perfectly legal ways of causing them to eat up more bandwidth costs if you wanna screw with them.

Wonder how many people are gonna show up with &quot;God Hates Fred Phelps&quot; signs at his funeral? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All their ports are open and &#8220;Anonymous&#8221; issued a &#8220;press release&#8221;?</p>
<p>This definitely sounds like something the Phelps would do.  Why DDOS their website anyway?  It&#8217;s funny.  There are perfectly legal ways of causing them to eat up more bandwidth costs if you wanna screw with them.</p>
<p>Wonder how many people are gonna show up with &#8220;God Hates Fred Phelps&#8221; signs at his funeral? :P</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033496</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why assume Anonymous is unified on this?  Both press releases could&#039;ve come from members.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033242</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone should make a documentary of Anonymous and WBC - the opposite of anonymous.  That would be fun. </description>
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		<title>By: Mister44</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033275</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As other pointed out - they make their money suing people and govs. If you are ever at an event and wonder why the fuck there are so many police officers there, it is because they will sue the city if they feel under protected.

Nate Phelps is his son and has a book and does tours. He used to have a long essay on his site - but it looks like it has changed since the last time I was there.

I think this is the same one I read and tells you pretty much all you ever wanted to know about that asshole. 
http://www.stoppingthehate.com/News-Article1302_Nate_Phelps_Estranged_Son_Of_Fred_Phelps_Speaks_Out_Publicly.htm

Back in the day I used to argue with one of his racists sons on IRC. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As other pointed out &#8211; they make their money suing people and govs. If you are ever at an event and wonder why the fuck there are so many police officers there, it is because they will sue the city if they feel under protected.</p>
<p>Nate Phelps is his son and has a book and does tours. He used to have a long essay on his site &#8211; but it looks like it has changed since the last time I was there.</p>
<p>I think this is the same one I read and tells you pretty much all you ever wanted to know about that asshole.<br />
<a href="http://www.stoppingthehate.com/News-Article1302_Nate_Phelps_Estranged_Son_Of_Fred_Phelps_Speaks_Out_Publicly.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.stoppingthehate.com/News-Article1302_Nate_Phelps_Estranged_Son_Of_Fred_Phelps_Speaks_Out_Publicly.htm</a></p>
<p>Back in the day I used to argue with one of his racists sons on IRC. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1044801</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is.  It&#039;s not a mystery.  The press just doesn&#039;t pay much attention to the fact that most of the WBC is comprised of Phelps family members, several of whom have law degrees.  It doesn&#039;t take much digging.  These are bottom-feeders who play completely by the law. They leverage other people&#039;s passion and emotional distress to strike first, and then hide behind the First Amendment.  They are truly the lowest of the low.  I don&#039;t know why major news outlets haven&#039;t shined the light on this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is.  It&#8217;s not a mystery.  The press just doesn&#8217;t pay much attention to the fact that most of the WBC is comprised of Phelps family members, several of whom have law degrees.  It doesn&#8217;t take much digging.  These are bottom-feeders who play completely by the law. They leverage other people&#8217;s passion and emotional distress to strike first, and then hide behind the First Amendment.  They are truly the lowest of the low.  I don&#8217;t know why major news outlets haven&#8217;t shined the light on this. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033297</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to the WBC, isn&#039;t there anything in the RICO statutes that can be used against these clowns? Frankly, they scare the crap out of me. Kinda like the RIAA. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the WBC, isn&#8217;t there anything in the RICO statutes that can be used against these clowns? Frankly, they scare the crap out of me. Kinda like the RIAA. </p>
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		<title>By: El Mariachi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033302</link>
		<dc:creator>El Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I donâ€™t understand. If this is a honeypot and Anonymous (or some subset thereof) takes the bait and DDoSes Westboro, who does the WBC expect to sue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I donâ€™t understand. If this is a honeypot and Anonymous (or some subset thereof) takes the bait and DDoSes Westboro, who does the WBC expect to sue?</p>
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		<title>By: delt664</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033320</link>
		<dc:creator>delt664</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one normally posts citations about the WBC lawsuit machine for the same reason that no one normally posts citations that Rush Limbaugh is full of crap - its a well known fact.

That being said, in 0.15 seconds you could have some google results of your own.  Heres the first one that jumped out at me:
http://www.ydr.com/ci_14780513

Also, see Hagrid&#039;s post immediately before yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one normally posts citations about the WBC lawsuit machine for the same reason that no one normally posts citations that Rush Limbaugh is full of crap &#8211; its a well known fact.</p>
<p>That being said, in 0.15 seconds you could have some google results of your own.  Heres the first one that jumped out at me:<br />
<a href="http://www.ydr.com/ci_14780513" rel="nofollow">http://www.ydr.com/ci_14780513</a></p>
<p>Also, see Hagrid&#8217;s post immediately before yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Shauni</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033602</link>
		<dc:creator>Shauni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the difference between Anonymous and WBC is the following:

Anonymous trades in lulz, whereas WBC trades in actual money.

There&#039;s nothing you can do to an attention whore/politician except ignore them. That&#039;s truly the best solution. 

But if you ignore someone who&#039;s trolling for cash, it&#039;s no different than hoping a scammer or other professional lowlife just &quot;goes away&quot;. They&#039;re pros; they&#039;ll find another victim and you&#039;ll be stuck with them forever whether you pay attention to them or not.

In some senses, Anonymous is kind of outmatched here, at least as long as the &quot;battle&quot; is just a bunch of press releases. (although anyone who was actually paying attention to Anonymous&#039;s MO realized that it wasn&#039;t made by them. The topics are completely different)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the difference between Anonymous and WBC is the following:</p>
<p>Anonymous trades in lulz, whereas WBC trades in actual money.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing you can do to an attention whore/politician except ignore them. That&#8217;s truly the best solution. </p>
<p>But if you ignore someone who&#8217;s trolling for cash, it&#8217;s no different than hoping a scammer or other professional lowlife just &#8220;goes away&#8221;. They&#8217;re pros; they&#8217;ll find another victim and you&#8217;ll be stuck with them forever whether you pay attention to them or not.</p>
<p>In some senses, Anonymous is kind of outmatched here, at least as long as the &#8220;battle&#8221; is just a bunch of press releases. (although anyone who was actually paying attention to Anonymous&#8217;s MO realized that it wasn&#8217;t made by them. The topics are completely different)</p>
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		<title>By: usurbrain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1097100</link>
		<dc:creator>usurbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea! I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s done it before...but..I COULD be wrong! (it could happen, LOL) How about gathering together people from all walks of life...Christians, Jews, Muslims, Freaks, Gays, Soldiers, all the people that these poor misguided SOB&#039;s seemingly &quot;hate&quot;, and picket their church! Organize a march in Kansas...and do it continuously. But do it differently. We can all dress up the way we want, showing them the multi-way we all live our lives, paint our signs with whatever we&#039;re feeling about them, whether it&#039;s anger, hate, mockery or yes, even love, and just march up and down in front of their church...the proverbial fire with fire...
Sure it&#039;ll give them publicity, which is what they want, but the tables will be turned...especially if we do it on a Sunday during services, where you can see that most, if not all of their members are related. 
And then...to further OUR crusade, whenever they&#039;re going to picket, (and they ALWAYS LET US KNOW, they need to have the media there), anyone who can be there, do the same thing. But instead of spreading their type of venom, everyone dress up like clowns and just laugh at them.  One of two things might happen. Phelp&#039;s posse will eventually realize that no one is going to take them seriously anymore, OR, the public will stop taking them seriously and stop giving them ANY publicity. In other words, when they see that their antics are just a joke, they&#039;ll have to give up. Then they&#039;ll just fade away into another lost page on Wikipedia. 
Whaddaya say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea! I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s done it before&#8230;but..I COULD be wrong! (it could happen, LOL) How about gathering together people from all walks of life&#8230;Christians, Jews, Muslims, Freaks, Gays, Soldiers, all the people that these poor misguided SOB&#8217;s seemingly &#8220;hate&#8221;, and picket their church! Organize a march in Kansas&#8230;and do it continuously. But do it differently. We can all dress up the way we want, showing them the multi-way we all live our lives, paint our signs with whatever we&#8217;re feeling about them, whether it&#8217;s anger, hate, mockery or yes, even love, and just march up and down in front of their church&#8230;the proverbial fire with fire&#8230;<br />
Sure it&#8217;ll give them publicity, which is what they want, but the tables will be turned&#8230;especially if we do it on a Sunday during services, where you can see that most, if not all of their members are related.<br />
And then&#8230;to further OUR crusade, whenever they&#8217;re going to picket, (and they ALWAYS LET US KNOW, they need to have the media there), anyone who can be there, do the same thing. But instead of spreading their type of venom, everyone dress up like clowns and just laugh at them.  One of two things might happen. Phelp&#8217;s posse will eventually realize that no one is going to take them seriously anymore, OR, the public will stop taking them seriously and stop giving them ANY publicity. In other words, when they see that their antics are just a joke, they&#8217;ll have to give up. Then they&#8217;ll just fade away into another lost page on Wikipedia.<br />
Whaddaya say?</p>
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		<title>By: pahool</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033613</link>
		<dc:creator>pahool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hagrid&#039;s post only makes the assertion that WBC uses this as an income stream. He doesn&#039;t cite any cases.

The Snyder case that you point out is a case where Snyder sued WBC and won. WBC only sued him to recoup costs once the initial case was overturned, so this link does little to prove the point

Saying that it&#039;s &quot;a well-known fact&quot; does not obviate the need for citations. The idea that the WBC is making their money from lawsuits filed when they manage to entice someone to violence just isn&#039;t borne out by any evidence I&#039;ve seen. I&#039;ve only seen it expressed as opinion and hypothesis.

This writer at the Stanford Review blog did some research and concluded that that the WBC uses lawsuits primarily as a weapon, not as a substantial income source:

http://blog.stanfordreview.org/2010/01/28/countdown-to-westboro-baptist-church-at-stanford-the-law-and-wbc/

And this article from the Wichita Eagle newspaper indicates that at least three of the Phelps family are on the state payroll. So at least some of their income is coming from (state-funded) employment:

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/14189/westboro-baptist-church-three-phelps-children-are-on-states-payroll

The Phelps family is legal-savvy, no doubt. And they are certainly not above filing frivolous lawsuits. I&#039;ve just still yet to see any tangible evidence that indicates that lawsuits form a substantial portion of their income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hagrid&#8217;s post only makes the assertion that WBC uses this as an income stream. He doesn&#8217;t cite any cases.</p>
<p>The Snyder case that you point out is a case where Snyder sued WBC and won. WBC only sued him to recoup costs once the initial case was overturned, so this link does little to prove the point</p>
<p>Saying that it&#8217;s &#8220;a well-known fact&#8221; does not obviate the need for citations. The idea that the WBC is making their money from lawsuits filed when they manage to entice someone to violence just isn&#8217;t borne out by any evidence I&#8217;ve seen. I&#8217;ve only seen it expressed as opinion and hypothesis.</p>
<p>This writer at the Stanford Review blog did some research and concluded that that the WBC uses lawsuits primarily as a weapon, not as a substantial income source:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.stanfordreview.org/2010/01/28/countdown-to-westboro-baptist-church-at-stanford-the-law-and-wbc/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.stanfordreview.org/2010/01/28/countdown-to-westboro-baptist-church-at-stanford-the-law-and-wbc/</a></p>
<p>And this article from the Wichita Eagle newspaper indicates that at least three of the Phelps family are on the state payroll. So at least some of their income is coming from (state-funded) employment:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.religionnewsblog.com/14189/westboro-baptist-church-three-phelps-children-are-on-states-payroll" rel="nofollow">http://www.religionnewsblog.com/14189/westboro-baptist-church-three-phelps-children-are-on-states-payroll</a></p>
<p>The Phelps family is legal-savvy, no doubt. And they are certainly not above filing frivolous lawsuits. I&#8217;ve just still yet to see any tangible evidence that indicates that lawsuits form a substantial portion of their income.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>So how about people start picketing the WBC&#039;s protests with signs stating plainly and clearly that WBC are trolls, and the best way to hurt them is to leave them alone.  They&#039;re worse than Sarah Palin.  We&#039;ve absolutely got to stop giving these people what they want.

(Really, I&#039;m more offended that WBC are scammers and trolls than I would be if they were legitimately crazy fundies.  They make everyone look bad.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how about people start picketing the WBC&#8217;s protests with signs stating plainly and clearly that WBC are trolls, and the best way to hurt them is to leave them alone.  They&#8217;re worse than Sarah Palin.  We&#8217;ve absolutely got to stop giving these people what they want.</p>
<p>(Really, I&#8217;m more offended that WBC are scammers and trolls than I would be if they were legitimately crazy fundies.  They make everyone look bad.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033381</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a /b/tard, I have some doubts about the original letter supposedly from Anon to WBC.  

I wont go into reasons why, as that could help &quot;false flag&quot; attacks in the future, but this looks like it is either WBC baiting, or some idiot new*** trying to steer the amorphous vapor that is Anonymous.

If you want to destroy the WBC, you need to hit it where it hurts: The pocketbook.  Recognize how these Godtards make their money, and remove that revenue stream.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a /b/tard, I have some doubts about the original letter supposedly from Anon to WBC.  </p>
<p>I wont go into reasons why, as that could help &#8220;false flag&#8221; attacks in the future, but this looks like it is either WBC baiting, or some idiot new*** trying to steer the amorphous vapor that is Anonymous.</p>
<p>If you want to destroy the WBC, you need to hit it where it hurts: The pocketbook.  Recognize how these Godtards make their money, and remove that revenue stream.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033645</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely in all this trolling, even if the WBC isn&#039;t breaking the law, there must be plenty of torts against them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely in all this trolling, even if the WBC isn&#8217;t breaking the law, there must be plenty of torts against them?</p>
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		<title>By: nixiebunny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033153</link>
		<dc:creator>nixiebunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The free speech angle is exactly what caught my notice when I read the original story. It didn&#039;t sound like something that Anonymous would do. 

Their beef with Scientology is not that Scientology talks, it&#039;s that the Scientology folks abuse their members and anyone who tries to speak out against them. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The free speech angle is exactly what caught my notice when I read the original story. It didn&#8217;t sound like something that Anonymous would do. </p>
<p>Their beef with Scientology is not that Scientology talks, it&#8217;s that the Scientology folks abuse their members and anyone who tries to speak out against them. </p>
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		<title>By: The Life Of Bryan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033155</link>
		<dc:creator>The Life Of Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they really are suing people (and that makes at least as much sense as any other motivation for their particular madness), shouldnâ€™t there be an easily discoverable paper trail of such?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they really are suing people (and that makes at least as much sense as any other motivation for their particular madness), shouldnâ€™t there be an easily discoverable paper trail of such?</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Doctorow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033157</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Doctorow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is:

http://tinyurl.com/64wtajw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/64wtajw" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/64wtajw</a></p>
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		<title>By: millrick</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033159</link>
		<dc:creator>millrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We are not.. afraid of your false god; we&#039;re just really busy.&quot;

http://anonnews.org/uploads/909803499_Untitled.jpg?do-not-hotlink,-hotlinking-attempts-will-be-blocked,-point-to-the-press-release-instead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are not.. afraid of your false god; we&#8217;re just really busy.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://anonnews.org/uploads/909803499_Untitled.jpg?do-not-hotlink,-hotlinking-attempts-will-be-blocked,-point-to-the-press-release-instead" rel="nofollow">http://anonnews.org/uploads/909803499_Untitled.jpg?do-not-hotlink,-hotlinking-attempts-will-be-blocked,-point-to-the-press-release-instead</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033674</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who call everybody fags aren&#039;t actually upset at homophobia??  I&#039;m shocked to hear that the first press release might not be legit.  shocked, i tell you.

The problem with the theory that Phelps is just pretending to be anti-gay is that he&#039;s been doing it so long.  It&#039;s always been distasteful to protest at funerals, but back when he started picketing funerals of those who had died of AIDS, the public thought he had bad manners, but did not largely disagree with his assertions that gay people were going to hell and were morally defective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who call everybody fags aren&#8217;t actually upset at homophobia??  I&#8217;m shocked to hear that the first press release might not be legit.  shocked, i tell you.</p>
<p>The problem with the theory that Phelps is just pretending to be anti-gay is that he&#8217;s been doing it so long.  It&#8217;s always been distasteful to protest at funerals, but back when he started picketing funerals of those who had died of AIDS, the public thought he had bad manners, but did not largely disagree with his assertions that gay people were going to hell and were morally defective.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Gehrke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033163</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Gehrke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Church of Westboro is a scam?
The Church of Westboro exists only to draw money from lawsuits?
Fred Phelps is a Con Man?

What&#039;s this about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Church of Westboro is a scam?<br />
The Church of Westboro exists only to draw money from lawsuits?<br />
Fred Phelps is a Con Man?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s this about?</p>
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		<title>By: Hagrid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033164</link>
		<dc:creator>Hagrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there is a paper trail. It leads all the way to the Supreme Court, where Snyder v Phelps is currently under consideration.
WBC stays scrupulously within the letter of the law. in order to keep this 20-year-old scam going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there is a paper trail. It leads all the way to the Supreme Court, where Snyder v Phelps is currently under consideration.<br />
WBC stays scrupulously within the letter of the law. in order to keep this 20-year-old scam going.</p>
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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033165</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought their tactics were strange and wondered where the financing came from to run around the country harassing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought their tactics were strange and wondered where the financing came from to run around the country harassing people.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenJello</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033166</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenJello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;shouldnâ€™t there be an easily discoverable paper trail of such?&lt;/i&gt;
Who said there isn&#039;t?  All I see in the press is a lazy &quot;These guys are being tools, oh what tools they are, see the inflamitory signs, I mean look at the inflamitory signs!  And now for something else racy.&quot;

The press has little to no motivation to look closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>shouldnâ€™t there be an easily discoverable paper trail of such?</i><br />
Who said there isn&#8217;t?  All I see in the press is a lazy &#8220;These guys are being tools, oh what tools they are, see the inflamitory signs, I mean look at the inflamitory signs!  And now for something else racy.&#8221;</p>
<p>The press has little to no motivation to look closer.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033167</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the WBC seems to me like one man&#039;s psychosis writ large, but that aside: Epic Troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the WBC seems to me like one man&#8217;s psychosis writ large, but that aside: Epic Troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033172</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another bunch of misguides - plainly missing the point.

A DDoS would NOT originate from the perpetrators, rather innocents that did not know of the software on their system [to do it].

Anonymous defended innocents before - albeit putting the innocents up as shields - which proved that those looking for a fight are happy to take things at face value and blame the first name that comes into their lap: &quot;If he&#039;s really innocent, that&#039;ll be decided in court&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another bunch of misguides &#8211; plainly missing the point.</p>
<p>A DDoS would NOT originate from the perpetrators, rather innocents that did not know of the software on their system [to do it].</p>
<p>Anonymous defended innocents before &#8211; albeit putting the innocents up as shields &#8211; which proved that those looking for a fight are happy to take things at face value and blame the first name that comes into their lap: &#8220;If he&#8217;s really innocent, that&#8217;ll be decided in court&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: asbuuu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html#comment-1033173</link>
		<dc:creator>asbuuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it another possibility that Anon occasionally splits into factions as a result of their decentralized nature? Perhaps one faction ordered the attack, and the other one said no way. How do they control their message? I honestly don&#039;t know. Does anyone know? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it another possibility that Anon occasionally splits into factions as a result of their decentralized nature? Perhaps one faction ordered the attack, and the other one said no way. How do they control their message? I honestly don&#8217;t know. Does anyone know? </p>
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