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		<title>By: seyo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034240</link>
		<dc:creator>seyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory, you misspelled David Lebovitz&#039;s name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory, you misspelled David Lebovitz&#8217;s name.</p>
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		<title>By: zapan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034303</link>
		<dc:creator>zapan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m french and this is just an automatisation of the same scam you can now find at every street corner : a &quot;point chaud/sandwicherie&quot; (hot spot/sandwich shop) basically an oven run by two underpaid students, filled every 15 minutes with frozen pre-baked industrial loafs.
A local law forbids them to bear the name &quot;boulangerie&quot; (baker) hence the &quot;hot spot&quot; and other &quot;fresh bread&quot; signs. (in case you didn&#039;t understand, the macine is next to the bakery because the baker applied for his annual paid holydays).

That type of bread that french call &quot;surgelÃ©&quot; (frozen) or &quot;industriel&quot; (industrial) tastes like straw (because it is baked two times too fast) and is dry half a day after purchase (very low moisture level). Customers usually eat it warm, wich hides the true taste of it.

The machine is just a fridge coupled with an oven, the baguette you order is just thawed, not baked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m french and this is just an automatisation of the same scam you can now find at every street corner : a &#8220;point chaud/sandwicherie&#8221; (hot spot/sandwich shop) basically an oven run by two underpaid students, filled every 15 minutes with frozen pre-baked industrial loafs.<br />
A local law forbids them to bear the name &#8220;boulangerie&#8221; (baker) hence the &#8220;hot spot&#8221; and other &#8220;fresh bread&#8221; signs. (in case you didn&#8217;t understand, the macine is next to the bakery because the baker applied for his annual paid holydays).</p>
<p>That type of bread that french call &#8220;surgelÃ©&#8221; (frozen) or &#8220;industriel&#8221; (industrial) tastes like straw (because it is baked two times too fast) and is dry half a day after purchase (very low moisture level). Customers usually eat it warm, wich hides the true taste of it.</p>
<p>The machine is just a fridge coupled with an oven, the baguette you order is just thawed, not baked.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034601</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Italian airports there are Pizza baking machines. 5 Euros for a Margherita. If interesting, I can post photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Italian airports there are Pizza baking machines. 5 Euros for a Margherita. If interesting, I can post photos.</p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034386</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, it&#039;s unlikely that the title of this blog post will change to the more accurate &quot;coin-op old-bread reheating machine,&quot; since it&#039;s far more fun to pretend that the French have developed fancy maker-bot machines that create bread from scratch and then bake them in 60 seconds... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s unlikely that the title of this blog post will change to the more accurate &#8220;coin-op old-bread reheating machine,&#8221; since it&#8217;s far more fun to pretend that the French have developed fancy maker-bot machines that create bread from scratch and then bake them in 60 seconds&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034399</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That the French have failed to do so makes me very very sad.
C&#039;est tragique, c&#039;est triste.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That the French have failed to do so makes me very very sad.<br />
C&#8217;est tragique, c&#8217;est triste.</p>
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		<title>By: pentomino</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034148</link>
		<dc:creator>pentomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless the language has changed since I studied French, &quot;cÃ©libataire&quot; just means &quot;unmarried&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the language has changed since I studied French, &#8220;cÃ©libataire&#8221; just means &#8220;unmarried&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PaulR</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034150</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, some people might argue that les mariÃ©s are though suffering from cÃ©libat...

My guess: nearly frozen half-backed baguettes, browned in a high IR oven.  

Or, given the size of the machine, there are a bunch of very short boulangers in there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, some people might argue that les mariÃ©s are though suffering from cÃ©libat&#8230;</p>
<p>My guess: nearly frozen half-backed baguettes, browned in a high IR oven.  </p>
<p>Or, given the size of the machine, there are a bunch of very short boulangers in there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the difference between single or unmarried.
I have lived in Paris for 30 years and am happily both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the difference between single or unmarried.<br />
I have lived in Paris for 30 years and am happily both.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulR</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034152</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to self: Always hit Preview first...

&quot;Yeah, some people might argue that les mariÃ©s are often those suffering from cÃ©libat...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to self: Always hit Preview first&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, some people might argue that les mariÃ©s are often those suffering from cÃ©libat&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: IanKoro</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034155</link>
		<dc:creator>IanKoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another cool thing tainted by Comic Sans.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1035435</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are men who can&#039;t eat without their baguette -frozen half baked or otherwize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are men who can&#8217;t eat without their baguette -frozen half baked or otherwize.</p>
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		<title>By: Stooge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034156</link>
		<dc:creator>Stooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CÃ©libataires = singles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CÃ©libataires = singles</p>
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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034157</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much like the chips/fries vending machines I see that unfreeze and cook with IR in 30 sec to a minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much like the chips/fries vending machines I see that unfreeze and cook with IR in 30 sec to a minute.</p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034159</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, if it&#039;s &quot;baking&quot; it in 60 seconds, then it&#039;s not baking it. And, contrary to the maker-bot-like allusions in the post&#039;s title, it&#039;s almost certainly not &quot;making&quot; it either.

In 60 seconds it&#039;s probably just reheating bread that was put there that morning. Or, worse, it&#039;s heating frozen bread that was put there last week.

This is probably why the machine has no windows. It would destroy the fantasy if you just saw a frozen baguette thrown into an oven.

I guess it&#039;s possible that the machine is doing the forming of long baguettes and slashing them perfectly and everything else, even though those baguettes look very human-made. But still, the bread is not being baked while you wait. It&#039;s being reheated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, if it&#8217;s &#8220;baking&#8221; it in 60 seconds, then it&#8217;s not baking it. And, contrary to the maker-bot-like allusions in the post&#8217;s title, it&#8217;s almost certainly not &#8220;making&#8221; it either.</p>
<p>In 60 seconds it&#8217;s probably just reheating bread that was put there that morning. Or, worse, it&#8217;s heating frozen bread that was put there last week.</p>
<p>This is probably why the machine has no windows. It would destroy the fantasy if you just saw a frozen baguette thrown into an oven.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s possible that the machine is doing the forming of long baguettes and slashing them perfectly and everything else, even though those baguettes look very human-made. But still, the bread is not being baked while you wait. It&#8217;s being reheated.</p>
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		<title>By: tyger11</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyger11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mon dieu! SacrÃ© bleu! Ã€ la carte! Zis is an outrage! Strike! Strike! Strike!</description>
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		<title>By: YarbroughFair</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034427</link>
		<dc:creator>YarbroughFair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subway got caught in an advertising play on words that is also being used here. &quot;Fresh baked&quot;, what does it mean? Subway did exactly the same thing this machine does, it just finishes the process, I think Subway called it 80/20 or something like that, 80% done, 20% to completion. So the process is taken as far as the legal definition of &quot;fresh baked&quot; and shortened it by 30 seconds, simple, easy, totally fucked up. The machine is simply a huge toaster!

History: 

Pre 2004 the American Bakers Association petitioned the F.D.A to allow the word &quot;fresh&quot; on bread stating that not allowing this put the industry at a disadvantage. The FDA rules made solid sense, if any preservative are used to maintain shelf life the item could not be considered &quot;fresh&quot;. The A.B.A demands that it be allowed to call its product fresh since the F.D.A has not defined the transition from &quot;fresh&quot; to non fresh or how long something can remain fresh or the period of time something remains fresh.

Today: &quot;Fresh&quot; with certain foods, is considered a &quot;sensory modifier&quot; meaning it &quot;could&quot; smell fresh, taste fresh, feel fresh, look fresh, and even hear fresh like thumping a watermelon. And this is the case with bread. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subway got caught in an advertising play on words that is also being used here. &#8220;Fresh baked&#8221;, what does it mean? Subway did exactly the same thing this machine does, it just finishes the process, I think Subway called it 80/20 or something like that, 80% done, 20% to completion. So the process is taken as far as the legal definition of &#8220;fresh baked&#8221; and shortened it by 30 seconds, simple, easy, totally fucked up. The machine is simply a huge toaster!</p>
<p>History: </p>
<p>Pre 2004 the American Bakers Association petitioned the F.D.A to allow the word &#8220;fresh&#8221; on bread stating that not allowing this put the industry at a disadvantage. The FDA rules made solid sense, if any preservative are used to maintain shelf life the item could not be considered &#8220;fresh&#8221;. The A.B.A demands that it be allowed to call its product fresh since the F.D.A has not defined the transition from &#8220;fresh&#8221; to non fresh or how long something can remain fresh or the period of time something remains fresh.</p>
<p>Today: &#8220;Fresh&#8221; with certain foods, is considered a &#8220;sensory modifier&#8221; meaning it &#8220;could&#8221; smell fresh, taste fresh, feel fresh, look fresh, and even hear fresh like thumping a watermelon. And this is the case with bread. </p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034188</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beat me to it.  

I&#039;ve seen these machines but never tried the bread.  All they&#039;re doing is heating up a pre-baked baguette that&#039;s kept in cold storage - not necessarily frozen solid.  Don&#039;t know how often the machines are restocked so I can&#039;t attest to the freshness of the product but it may be a tad bit better than whatever&#039;s left in stock and sitting out on the shelves all day.  So for supermarket bread at least, it may be the better bet for a late-night purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beat me to it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen these machines but never tried the bread.  All they&#8217;re doing is heating up a pre-baked baguette that&#8217;s kept in cold storage &#8211; not necessarily frozen solid.  Don&#8217;t know how often the machines are restocked so I can&#8217;t attest to the freshness of the product but it may be a tad bit better than whatever&#8217;s left in stock and sitting out on the shelves all day.  So for supermarket bread at least, it may be the better bet for a late-night purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/02/23/coin-op-bread-making.html#comment-1034190</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops...my comment was meant to be in reply to SamSam @8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8230;my comment was meant to be in reply to SamSam @8</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Belgium even the smallest villages usually have a bread machine, though it doesn&#039;t bake (or even pretend to bake) the bread -- it&#039;s usually just a vending machine on the street corner with a shelter over it. In some places you can get sandwiches and other snacks out of the machines. I have also seen machines that vend milk, potatoes, or mushrooms. After all, you never know when you&#039;ll need an oyster mushroom at 2am....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Belgium even the smallest villages usually have a bread machine, though it doesn&#8217;t bake (or even pretend to bake) the bread &#8212; it&#8217;s usually just a vending machine on the street corner with a shelter over it. In some places you can get sandwiches and other snacks out of the machines. I have also seen machines that vend milk, potatoes, or mushrooms. After all, you never know when you&#8217;ll need an oyster mushroom at 2am&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antonio Margheriti!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF-20HXIhJI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonio Margheriti!!<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF-20HXIhJI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF-20HXIhJI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who regularly eats out of U.S. convenience stores I can honestly say this beats the hell out of a bag of Fritos. I&#039;m really envious if the store sells anything resembling cheese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who regularly eats out of U.S. convenience stores I can honestly say this beats the hell out of a bag of Fritos. I&#8217;m really envious if the store sells anything resembling cheese.</p>
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		<title>By: KeithIrwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>KeithIrwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hypothetically, you could probably make a pretty good machine similar to this which stores parbaked bread and just does the final bake.  But that final bake would take more than just two minutes, so I&#039;m sure that they aren&#039;t doing that.  Too bad.  I&#039;m sure that it would be an improvement even though the wait would be longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypothetically, you could probably make a pretty good machine similar to this which stores parbaked bread and just does the final bake.  But that final bake would take more than just two minutes, so I&#8217;m sure that they aren&#8217;t doing that.  Too bad.  I&#8217;m sure that it would be an improvement even though the wait would be longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s going on in that box?
My guess, in a minute and a half you could warm up a baguette and then cool it to warm and Voila!, fresh (?) bread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s going on in that box?<br />
My guess, in a minute and a half you could warm up a baguette and then cool it to warm and Voila!, fresh (?) bread.</p>
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