Comments on: HOWTO make a disappearing prank gallium teaspoon http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 22:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: planettom http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038336 planettom Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038336 So...if the pranked person happened to not notice the disappearing spoon and drank the liquid, what would be the effect on them? So…if the pranked person happened to not notice the disappearing spoon and drank the liquid, what would be the effect on them?

]]> By: General Specific http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038337 General Specific Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038337 If he can't tell that the weight of what he is holding is rapidly reducing, then he's got bigger problems than drinking gallium. If he can’t tell that the weight of what he is holding is rapidly reducing, then he’s got bigger problems than drinking gallium.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038850 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038850 is this a Make Fail? You know what is cooler than a fake melting teaspoon, fake cool silver contact lenses. is this a Make Fail? You know what is cooler than a fake melting teaspoon, fake cool silver contact lenses.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038339 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038339 Potential Health Effects Eye: Causes eye irritation. Skin: Causes skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the skin. The toxicological properties of this material have not been fully investigated. May cause contact dermatitis. Ingestion: May cause gastrointestinal irritation with nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. The toxicological properties of this substance have not been fully investigated. May be harmful if swallowed. Inhalation: Causes respiratory tract irritation. The toxicological properties of this substance have not been fully investigated. May be harmful if inhaled. Chronic: May cause bone marrow abnormalities with damage to blood forming tissues. Administration of gallium to humans has caused metallic taste, skin rashes, and bone marrow depression. Source: http://www.acialloys.com/msds/ga.html Just saying... Potential Health Effects
Eye:
Causes eye irritation.
Skin:
Causes skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the skin. The toxicological properties of this material have not been fully investigated. May cause contact dermatitis.
Ingestion:
May cause gastrointestinal irritation with nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. The toxicological properties of this substance have not been fully investigated. May be harmful if swallowed.
Inhalation:
Causes respiratory tract irritation. The toxicological properties of this substance have not been fully investigated. May be harmful if inhaled.
Chronic:
May cause bone marrow abnormalities with damage to blood forming tissues. Administration of gallium to humans has caused metallic taste, skin rashes, and bone marrow depression.

Source: http://www.acialloys.com/msds/ga.html

Just saying…

]]> By: jphilby http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038595 jphilby Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038595 This would be cool: have a container partitioned into a top part with hot water and a bottom part with ice water. A hole in the top part would let the liquid gallium flow through into the ice water. Put a little mold under there and you could melt a spoon to make a shiny statue of a LOLcat. This would be cool: have a container partitioned into a top part with hot water and a bottom part with ice water. A hole in the top part would let the liquid gallium flow through into the ice water.

Put a little mold under there and you could melt a spoon to make a shiny statue of a LOLcat.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1039108 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1039108 Since the melting point is 86 degrees, I think the subject of the prank might notice the handle of the spoon melting as they or you pick it up... I think the prank scenario is about as realistic as the old ads in the back of comic books. Since the melting point is 86 degrees, I think the subject of the prank might notice the handle of the spoon melting as they or you pick it up… I think the prank scenario is about as realistic as the old ads in the back of comic books.

]]> By: pauldrye http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038345 pauldrye Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038345 Well, gallium hasn't got an LD50 that I can find, and it's a IIIA metal so it's not going to be displacing any other elements your body uses. It's staying molten at body temperature too, so it won't form a solid lump in your stomach. Not that I'd bet my life on it, but I would guess the effect of drinking your spoon (and *there's* a sentence I didn't think I'd type when I got up this morning) would be mild nausea and a really interesting trip to the bathroom at some later point. Well, gallium hasn’t got an LD50 that I can find, and it’s a IIIA metal so it’s not going to be displacing any other elements your body uses. It’s staying molten at body temperature too, so it won’t form a solid lump in your stomach.

Not that I’d bet my life on it, but I would guess the effect of drinking your spoon (and *there’s* a sentence I didn’t think I’d type when I got up this morning) would be mild nausea and a really interesting trip to the bathroom at some later point.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038350 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038350 Anyone still think Uri Geller bends spoons by magical means? Anyone still think Uri Geller bends spoons by magical means?

]]> By: PaulR http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038356 PaulR Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038356 "Mary! I just shat some silver turds! We're rich! Rich, I tell you!" “Mary! I just shat some silver turds! We’re rich! Rich, I tell you!”

]]> By: Volker http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038358 Volker Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038358 Routes of Entry: Dermal contact. Eye contact. Inhalation. Ingestion. Toxicity to Animals: WARNING: THE LC50 VALUES HEREUNDER ARE ESTIMATED ON THE BASIS OF A 4-HOUR EXPOSURE. Acute toxicity of the vapor (LC50): 4786 ppm 4 hour(s) (Rat) (Calculated value for the mixture). Chronic Effects on Humans: The substance is toxic to lungs, mucous membranes. Other Toxic Effects on Humans: Hazardous in case of skin contact (corrosive, irritant, permeator), of ingestion, of inhalation. From the MSDS at www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924116 I would definitely advise against drinking your spoon... Routes of Entry: Dermal contact. Eye contact. Inhalation. Ingestion.

Toxicity to Animals:
WARNING: THE LC50 VALUES HEREUNDER ARE ESTIMATED ON THE BASIS OF A 4-HOUR EXPOSURE. Acute toxicity of the vapor (LC50): 4786 ppm 4 hour(s) (Rat) (Calculated value for the mixture).

Chronic Effects on Humans: The substance is toxic to lungs, mucous membranes.

Other Toxic Effects on Humans: Hazardous in case of skin contact (corrosive, irritant, permeator), of ingestion, of inhalation.

From the MSDS at http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924116

I would definitely advise against drinking your spoon…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038361 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038361 One Spoon weights 14g, resulting in 18.7g Ga2O3(in case you burn the spoon) which has a LD50 of 10g/kg Bodymass. So about 700-800g - that are a lot of spoons. Drinking a spoon - crossing the metall detector at an airport would be not fun to explain later, or the x-ray. One Spoon weights 14g, resulting in 18.7g Ga2O3(in case you burn the spoon) which has a LD50 of 10g/kg Bodymass.

So about 700-800g – that are a lot of spoons.

Drinking a spoon – crossing the metall detector at an airport would be not fun to explain later, or the x-ray.

]]> By: DIYer http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038373 DIYer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038373 From your MSDS -- Ingredients: Gallium Water Nitric acid, fuming Perhaps if you leave the "nitric acid, fuming" out of your drink, you might have a less dreadful outcome. The plain metal will be less soluble, and less of it absorbed, than the Gallium Nitrate. (Not that I'm recommending drinking your spoon; real results may vary) From your MSDS –
Ingredients:
Gallium
Water
Nitric acid, fuming

Perhaps if you leave the “nitric acid, fuming” out of your drink, you might have a less dreadful outcome. The plain metal will be less soluble, and less of it absorbed, than the Gallium Nitrate.

(Not that I’m recommending drinking your spoon; real results may vary)

]]> By: Urban Garlic http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038374 Urban Garlic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038374 I found a Materials Safety Data Sheet for metallic Gallium, <A HREF="http://www.acialloys.com/msds/ga.html">here</A>. For short-term exposure, it mostly says "may cause irritation", including contact dermatitis if you touch it, and points out that it hasn't been fully investigated. For chronic exposure, it says that metallic taste, skin rashes, and bone-marrow depression have been observed. So, may be OK for a one-off, but think twice before adding this trick to the touring repertoire, I guess. I found a Materials Safety Data Sheet for metallic Gallium,
here.

For short-term exposure, it mostly says “may cause irritation”, including contact dermatitis if you touch it, and points out that it hasn’t been fully investigated.

For chronic exposure, it says that metallic taste, skin rashes, and bone-marrow depression have been observed.

So, may be OK for a one-off, but think twice before adding this trick to the touring repertoire, I guess.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038377 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038377 When I was a kid, you could buy similar prank spoons from ads in the back of vaguely disreputable magazines. They were made of Wood's metal, which has a melting point of 70 deg C. This seems more, uh, practical for the purpose than Gallium. With a melting point of 30 deg C, a gallium spoon could melt before your very eyes on a hot summer day. When I was a kid, you could buy similar prank spoons from ads in the back of vaguely disreputable magazines. They were made of Wood’s metal, which has a melting point of 70 deg C. This seems more, uh, practical for the purpose than Gallium. With a melting point of 30 deg C, a gallium spoon could melt before your very eyes on a hot summer day.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038384 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038384 I wouldn't want to risk any practical joke that has the potential of somebody drinking the molten gallium, just in case. A much better practical joke is "I have here a very concentrated acid... observe as I destroy this spoon.... and now, using the power of my mind, I will put my hand in the acid." I wouldn’t want to risk any practical joke that has the potential of somebody drinking the molten gallium, just in case.

A much better practical joke is “I have here a very concentrated acid… observe as I destroy this spoon…. and now, using the power of my mind, I will put my hand in the acid.”

]]> By: bardfinn http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038385 bardfinn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038385 Melts, not dissolves. It changes physical state from solid to liquid, it does not become dispersed and suspended within a solution. Melts, not dissolves. It changes physical state from solid to liquid, it does not become dispersed and suspended within a solution.

]]> By: ROSSINDETROIT http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038386 ROSSINDETROIT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038386 IIRC, long ago gallium compounds were investigated as a substitute for highly toxic tetra-ethyl lead as a knock inhibitor in motor fuels. The people exposed to it developed a persistent, strong and distinct odor of garlic about their persons. IIRC, long ago gallium compounds were investigated as a substitute for highly toxic tetra-ethyl lead as a knock inhibitor in motor fuels. The people exposed to it developed a persistent, strong and distinct odor of garlic about their persons.

]]> By: Mister44 http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038906 Mister44 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038906 OMG - THANK YOU for this. I have been wanting to play with some gallium for years now. The spoon trick is awesome. OMG – THANK YOU for this.

I have been wanting to play with some gallium for years now. The spoon trick is awesome.

]]> By: Jesse M. http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038651 Jesse M. Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038651 <i>A much better practical joke is "I have here a very concentrated acid... observe as I destroy this spoon.... and now, using the power of my mind, I will put my hand in the acid."</i> That's a good idea, even better if you have secreted a <a href="http://www.prankplace.com/product.aspx?p=3080&c=50">fake blood capsule</i> in your hand to crush as soon as you put it in the "acid"! A much better practical joke is “I have here a very concentrated acid… observe as I destroy this spoon…. and now, using the power of my mind, I will put my hand in the acid.”

That’s a good idea, even better if you have secreted a fake blood capsule in your hand to crush as soon as you put it in the “acid”!

]]> By: kjulig http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038432 kjulig Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038432 Awesome, this stuff will melt if you just hold it in your hand long enough. Nobody would notice that! Awesome, this stuff will melt if you just hold it in your hand long enough. Nobody would notice that!

]]> By: Chevan http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038438 Chevan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038438 The vapor pressure is on par with water, and that LC50 is not that small. You'd probably have to breathe in a substantial portion of the spoon's volume in gallium to get anywhere near that, and the odds of that happening are not at all likely. This isn't to say that I recommend drinking gallium; just that it's really not as bad as you're making it seem and that an inhalation exposure rating is not the appropriate measure to use here. The vapor pressure is on par with water, and that LC50 is not that small. You’d probably have to breathe in a substantial portion of the spoon’s volume in gallium to get anywhere near that, and the odds of that happening are not at all likely.

This isn’t to say that I recommend drinking gallium; just that it’s really not as bad as you’re making it seem and that an inhalation exposure rating is not the appropriate measure to use here.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038950 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038950 check the MSDS for Sodium Chlorine (table salt!) says you should avoid skin contact, if it's accidently ingested medical advice should be sought immediately, it's causes cancer, and there's a special note about the adverse effects on the human reproductive organs. We're talking about table salt! I've been working with gallium for a long time.. some view it as a 21st century trace element, it works as an anti bacterial agent, and it's even injected in the bloodstream for something called a Gallium scan. check the MSDS for Sodium Chlorine (table salt!) says you should avoid skin contact, if it’s accidently ingested medical advice should be sought immediately, it’s causes cancer, and there’s a special note about the adverse effects on the human reproductive organs. We’re talking about table salt! I’ve been working with gallium for a long time.. some view it as a 21st century trace element, it works as an anti bacterial agent, and it’s even injected in the bloodstream for something called a Gallium scan.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038469 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038469 Wood's metal (50% bismuth, 26.7% lead, 13.3% tin, and 10% cadmium) is the traditional one for this prank, I think, but considering that it is toxic it's not really a good choice. Field's metal (32.5% bismuth, 51% indium, 16.5% tin) is less toxic. Wood’s metal (50% bismuth, 26.7% lead, 13.3% tin, and 10% cadmium) is the traditional one for this prank, I think, but considering that it is toxic it’s not really a good choice. Field’s metal (32.5% bismuth, 51% indium, 16.5% tin) is less toxic.

]]> By: ablebody http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1039273 ablebody Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1039273 responsibly. there. responsibly.

there.

]]> By: Major Variola (ret) http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038528 Major Variola (ret) Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038528 FAR cooler is if you feel the crystals form in the melt as it cools. Also, gallium cries when you bend it. Or was that indium? FAR cooler is if you feel the crystals form in the melt as it cools.

Also, gallium cries when you bend it. Or was that indium?

]]> By: Geonz http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038804 Geonz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038804 Dissolves? Not. You can see its molten self sitting at the bottom of the cup. I suppose the description is trying to cancel out all those people who go out in the rain and say, "I'm not sugar; I won't melt," perhaps? Dissolves? Not. You can see its molten self sitting at the bottom of the cup.
I suppose the description is trying to cancel out all those people who go out in the rain and say, “I’m not sugar; I won’t melt,” perhaps?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038551 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038551 Why not use Field's Metal? Melts at 144F, and is completely non-toxic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field's_metal I might buy a kit and a jar of Field's metal shavings to do this prank without poisoning my friends. Why not use Field’s Metal? Melts at 144F, and is completely non-toxic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field's_metal

I might buy a kit and a jar of Field’s metal shavings to do this prank without poisoning my friends.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038565 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038565 lets give some credit for an earlier publication; Popular Science 1935 http://books.google.com/books?id=MSoDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA54&lpg=PA54&dq=popular+science+melting+spoon&source=bl&ots=b-AUsD2UKT&sig=6bsrpCRQKn8xxCkCFPKPOnRM2ic&hl=en&ei=QapqTebqKMWqlAfV-oj_AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false and revisited in 2005 http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2005-02/gag-spoon lets give some credit for an earlier publication; Popular Science 1935 http://books.google.com/books?id=MSoDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA54&lpg=PA54&dq=popular+science+melting+spoon&source=bl&ots=b-AUsD2UKT&sig=6bsrpCRQKn8xxCkCFPKPOnRM2ic&hl=en&ei=QapqTebqKMWqlAfV-oj_AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false

and revisited in 2005 http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2005-02/gag-spoon

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038573 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038573 Why would the weight reduce? You could have a more serious problem... Why would the weight reduce? You could have a more serious problem…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/howto-make-a-disappe.html#comment-1038327 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038327 Is that how they do the old bending spoon trick? Is that how they do the old bending spoon trick?

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