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	<title>Comments on: Heidi Taillefer&#039;s Venus Envy&#160;painting</title>
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		<title>By: DrPretto</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1041666</link>
		<dc:creator>DrPretto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful, Medusa+Major Motoko Kusanagi(from Ghost in the Shell).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful, Medusa+Major Motoko Kusanagi(from Ghost in the Shell).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1041418</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From all the pregnant woman I&#039;ve known I have never envied them.

That said this picture is oddly erotic and grotesque at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From all the pregnant woman I&#8217;ve known I have never envied them.</p>
<p>That said this picture is oddly erotic and grotesque at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Amelia_G</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1042462</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelia_G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great attitude. Great start. Trying to change motherhood from a bug to a feature, from my unholy perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great attitude. Great start. Trying to change motherhood from a bug to a feature, from my unholy perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: seachange</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1042211</link>
		<dc:creator>seachange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I understand all the symbolism, and I don&#039;t especially like the &quot;style,&quot; but I was mesmerized by this painting. I wonder why the apple, orange, and bunches of grapes but no pomegranate? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I understand all the symbolism, and I don&#8217;t especially like the &#8220;style,&#8221; but I was mesmerized by this painting. I wonder why the apple, orange, and bunches of grapes but no pomegranate? </p>
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		<title>By: moniker42</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1041701</link>
		<dc:creator>moniker42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should get a tattoo of that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should get a tattoo of that. </p>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1042473</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;female advantage of being the carrier of new life&quot; is just about the last thing I would ever envy. I&#039;ll never understand the desire to reproduce.

Now, female fashion - that I envy. Guys clothing is boring as hell unless you go well outside the mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;female advantage of being the carrier of new life&#8221; is just about the last thing I would ever envy. I&#8217;ll never understand the desire to reproduce.</p>
<p>Now, female fashion &#8211; that I envy. Guys clothing is boring as hell unless you go well outside the mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1042739</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a currently pregnant woman - with twins, no less - yep. This painting depicts just about exactly how I feel right now: glorious, powerful, huge and kinda gross. All at the same time. Bravo. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a currently pregnant woman &#8211; with twins, no less &#8211; yep. This painting depicts just about exactly how I feel right now: glorious, powerful, huge and kinda gross. All at the same time. Bravo. </p>
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		<title>By: jtiii</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1041978</link>
		<dc:creator>jtiii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the mesmerizing comment.  I have to say this might be the weirdest painting I&#039;ve ever found to be absolutely beautiful.  Really impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the mesmerizing comment.  I have to say this might be the weirdest painting I&#8217;ve ever found to be absolutely beautiful.  Really impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: damiro</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1056315</link>
		<dc:creator>damiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess if snakes, fruits, flowers, goddess images, and babies are ugly and grotesque, you&#039;re right. No accounting for taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if snakes, fruits, flowers, goddess images, and babies are ugly and grotesque, you&#8217;re right. No accounting for taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Katos</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1043517</link>
		<dc:creator>Katos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really quite surprised by the negative reactions to this painting in the comments above. I was stunned when I opened this post at the glorius technical accomplishment, level of detail, and layers of interest this piece of work contains. Why the hate, haters? It&#039;s pretty amazing in my view. Don&#039;t feel threatened! Embrace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really quite surprised by the negative reactions to this painting in the comments above. I was stunned when I opened this post at the glorius technical accomplishment, level of detail, and layers of interest this piece of work contains. Why the hate, haters? It&#8217;s pretty amazing in my view. Don&#8217;t feel threatened! Embrace!</p>
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		<title>By: salsaman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1046858</link>
		<dc:creator>salsaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, such a perfectly ugly image.  If the idea was to strip any sense of beauty from the female form, it&#039;s a success.  Grotesque.  People like this?  No accounting for taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, such a perfectly ugly image.  If the idea was to strip any sense of beauty from the female form, it&#8217;s a success.  Grotesque.  People like this?  No accounting for taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is having a baby a &quot;harsh social standard&quot;? Rather I&#039;d say it&#039;s a biological one. And I find it interesting that you characterize her as being &quot;burdened&quot; by a child, as if that&#039;s a negative or unwanted thing. I believe that most women don&#039;t think of their fetuses as &quot;burdens.&quot; 
And in the artist&#039;s explanation of the piece, she notes that it is &quot;is a work emphasizing the beauty and potency of women and motherhood,&quot; not an attempt to define women by their intellectual aspect. It seems to me that everyone has a body and has to deal with it, one way or another. She&#039;s choosing to celebrate certain feminine qualities that have been viewed by many societies as weaknesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is having a baby a &#8220;harsh social standard&#8221;? Rather I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a biological one. And I find it interesting that you characterize her as being &#8220;burdened&#8221; by a child, as if that&#8217;s a negative or unwanted thing. I believe that most women don&#8217;t think of their fetuses as &#8220;burdens.&#8221;<br />
And in the artist&#8217;s explanation of the piece, she notes that it is &#8220;is a work emphasizing the beauty and potency of women and motherhood,&#8221; not an attempt to define women by their intellectual aspect. It seems to me that everyone has a body and has to deal with it, one way or another. She&#8217;s choosing to celebrate certain feminine qualities that have been viewed by many societies as weaknesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t but think that this painting would&#039;ve been considered sexist back in the 1980s. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t but think that this painting would&#8217;ve been considered sexist back in the 1980s. </p>
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		<title>By: Fang Xianfu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1041515</link>
		<dc:creator>Fang Xianfu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has always struck me as one of the most bizarre claims of the last couple of waves of feminism - that is, &quot;womb-envy&quot;. I mean, I get that there are things that&#039;re great about being a woman, I never thought that was firmly an advantage. It always struck me as something that comes with a serious set of cons to go with its pros - as many comedians have said, who wants to bleed from their privates?

Which makes this a really great painting, because it promotes all manner of contemplation of this stuff. Thanks, Pesco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has always struck me as one of the most bizarre claims of the last couple of waves of feminism &#8211; that is, &#8220;womb-envy&#8221;. I mean, I get that there are things that&#8217;re great about being a woman, I never thought that was firmly an advantage. It always struck me as something that comes with a serious set of cons to go with its pros &#8211; as many comedians have said, who wants to bleed from their privates?</p>
<p>Which makes this a really great painting, because it promotes all manner of contemplation of this stuff. Thanks, Pesco.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1042044</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t notice till I looked at the website, but the orange she&#039;s holding is clearly shaped like a vagina down the center.  Just thought I&#039;d point that out to anyone that isn&#039;t grossed out enough already :)

Still, great concept and superbly executed, but I don&#039;t think I could stomach having it on my wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t notice till I looked at the website, but the orange she&#8217;s holding is clearly shaped like a vagina down the center.  Just thought I&#8217;d point that out to anyone that isn&#8217;t grossed out enough already :)</p>
<p>Still, great concept and superbly executed, but I don&#8217;t think I could stomach having it on my wall.</p>
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		<title>By: spejic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1042045</link>
		<dc:creator>spejic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, I feel like eating an orange now.
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		<title>By: PapayaSF</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1042304</link>
		<dc:creator>PapayaSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s got man hands!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1043585</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the transition of thought/philosophy down to work/practical, from head to foot. 

..as a side note/just random thought.. 


Saying I envy women because they are life givers is wing shot. It&#039;s more accurate to describe it (the &#039;envy&#039;) as a rampant curiosity about a  power &amp; set of rules that are relatively alien to me. 



and I agree with the above statement that women&#039;s fashion is more interesting in variety/style.  Unless of course you live in a world drawn by Peter Chung..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the transition of thought/philosophy down to work/practical, from head to foot. </p>
<p>..as a side note/just random thought.. </p>
<p>Saying I envy women because they are life givers is wing shot. It&#8217;s more accurate to describe it (the &#8216;envy&#8217;) as a rampant curiosity about a  power &#038; set of rules that are relatively alien to me. </p>
<p>and I agree with the above statement that women&#8217;s fashion is more interesting in variety/style.  Unless of course you live in a world drawn by Peter Chung..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1043074</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the artist says she wants to &quot;free them from harsh social standards,&quot; yet she depicts her burdened with a child?  the whole &quot;mystical and intimidating power&quot; associations came from a time when it wasn&#039;t understood why/how pregnancy happened, and from the ignorance sprang the idea of woman as &quot;creator of life.&quot;

from the point of view of a person who refuses to define myself or my life according to the organs i was born with -- we ar emore than teh sum of our parts -- i regardless cannot help but notice that her BRAIN has been left out of the painting.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the artist says she wants to &#8220;free them from harsh social standards,&#8221; yet she depicts her burdened with a child?  the whole &#8220;mystical and intimidating power&#8221; associations came from a time when it wasn&#8217;t understood why/how pregnancy happened, and from the ignorance sprang the idea of woman as &#8220;creator of life.&#8221;</p>
<p>from the point of view of a person who refuses to define myself or my life according to the organs i was born with &#8212; we ar emore than teh sum of our parts &#8212; i regardless cannot help but notice that her BRAIN has been left out of the painting.</p>
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		<title>By: brassandlace</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1041541</link>
		<dc:creator>brassandlace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really gorgeous. I hope they release some cheaper copies as well since I&#039;d love to support the artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really gorgeous. I hope they release some cheaper copies as well since I&#8217;d love to support the artist.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is so interesting</description>
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		<title>By: latent_ravening_ferocity</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/heidi-taillefers-ven.html#comment-1041825</link>
		<dc:creator>latent_ravening_ferocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing she explained the title.  I never would have picked up on that.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it looks like a Dali... wish I could remember who said that Dali was &quot;a genius, right up to his elbow.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it looks like a Dali&#8230; wish I could remember who said that Dali was &#8220;a genius, right up to his elbow.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Benoisito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benoisito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to various folk. I think perhaps a useful point of the picture is to show how much we can isolate aspects of the female as &quot;gross&quot;(be it the physical mechanics of motherhood or feminine sensuality and eroticism) without seeing their bound interconnection and intrinsic beauty in the whole woman as gaurdian of the life cycle... or at least that&#039;s some of what I got from it.

This is also just a downright radiant piece of art. Brings to mind both Kahlo and Mati Klarwein, not bad company to be in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to various folk. I think perhaps a useful point of the picture is to show how much we can isolate aspects of the female as &#8220;gross&#8221;(be it the physical mechanics of motherhood or feminine sensuality and eroticism) without seeing their bound interconnection and intrinsic beauty in the whole woman as gaurdian of the life cycle&#8230; or at least that&#8217;s some of what I got from it.</p>
<p>This is also just a downright radiant piece of art. Brings to mind both Kahlo and Mati Klarwein, not bad company to be in.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>I would change one of the nipple to arrow head</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>very similar to one of her early works that was the front cover of a poertry book called hacking the future

http://www.heiditaillefer.com/index.php/texts/48</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very similar to one of her early works that was the front cover of a poertry book called hacking the future</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heiditaillefer.com/index.php/texts/48" rel="nofollow">http://www.heiditaillefer.com/index.php/texts/48</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way of painting is similar to the work of Dali. I like it.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>eh, i&#039;m female, and i think it&#039;s kind of gross.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh, i&#8217;m female, and i think it&#8217;s kind of gross.  </p>
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		<title>By: g0d5m15t4k3</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of mesmerizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of mesmerizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>&quot;Joyce defines Improper Art as kinetic and breaks it down into two categories: the pornographic and the didactic. Pornographic art is any expression that inspires desire in the observer to possess the object. All advertising art is pornographic in this sense and therefore improper.

The second category of Improper Art, in Joyce&#039;s aesthetic, is the Didactic. Didactic Art is any artistic expression which instills fear or loathing in the observer and thereby pushes them away from the object being observed.

All comedy is didactic, at the least the best comedy is. All tragedy is didactic and all social expressions of anger are didactic. Whether it&#039;s Dave Chappelle, Saturday Night Live, Nine Inch Nails, or KRS-ONE--it&#039;s improper by Joyce&#039;s definition.

98% of all art produced since World War II (Post-Modern or whatever ridiculous term the literati call it now) is improper in Joyce&#039;s sense because it has been inherently kineticï¿½suffused with internal movement that either pulls the observer toward it in a desire to possess or pushes the observer away with fear or loathing.

But then we get to Proper Art which Joyce defines as static and this is where things get interesting. Joyce defines proper art as that which does not pull the observer toward it or push the observer away from it, but rather holds them still in aesthetic arrest of the moment.

In this definition, if a work of art is true, it uses the forms of time and space in terms of contemporary life (people, objects, and their relationships to each other) to blow apart the illusory divisions that allow us to exist as individuals who are born from the great blank, grow old through similar stages of life, and die back into the great blank. And here we finally get to the Holy of Holies.

The Great Blank is the space between thoughts and it is what proper art is concerned with--leading the individual observer back to The Mysterious Ground of Being. We are talking about a sublime and complete dissolution of the individual and collective ego into the great void of creative energy from which all life springs. All great art that has moved individuals, and hence the world, along from social epoch to epoch has been rooted in The Great Blank.

But here&#039;s the catch--Proper Art is a near impossible thing to plan out and achieve. It&#039;s a divine gift of inspiration so rare that only the most foolish of artists would claim that they &quot;actually set out to create it as such.&quot;
Below is the link I quoted this from 

http://www.thepauper.com/artrepreneur/content/library/james_joyce_proper_art.asp

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Joyce defines Improper Art as kinetic and breaks it down into two categories: the pornographic and the didactic. Pornographic art is any expression that inspires desire in the observer to possess the object. All advertising art is pornographic in this sense and therefore improper.</p>
<p>The second category of Improper Art, in Joyce&#8217;s aesthetic, is the Didactic. Didactic Art is any artistic expression which instills fear or loathing in the observer and thereby pushes them away from the object being observed.</p>
<p>All comedy is didactic, at the least the best comedy is. All tragedy is didactic and all social expressions of anger are didactic. Whether it&#8217;s Dave Chappelle, Saturday Night Live, Nine Inch Nails, or KRS-ONE&#8211;it&#8217;s improper by Joyce&#8217;s definition.</p>
<p>98% of all art produced since World War II (Post-Modern or whatever ridiculous term the literati call it now) is improper in Joyce&#8217;s sense because it has been inherently kineticï¿½suffused with internal movement that either pulls the observer toward it in a desire to possess or pushes the observer away with fear or loathing.</p>
<p>But then we get to Proper Art which Joyce defines as static and this is where things get interesting. Joyce defines proper art as that which does not pull the observer toward it or push the observer away from it, but rather holds them still in aesthetic arrest of the moment.</p>
<p>In this definition, if a work of art is true, it uses the forms of time and space in terms of contemporary life (people, objects, and their relationships to each other) to blow apart the illusory divisions that allow us to exist as individuals who are born from the great blank, grow old through similar stages of life, and die back into the great blank. And here we finally get to the Holy of Holies.</p>
<p>The Great Blank is the space between thoughts and it is what proper art is concerned with&#8211;leading the individual observer back to The Mysterious Ground of Being. We are talking about a sublime and complete dissolution of the individual and collective ego into the great void of creative energy from which all life springs. All great art that has moved individuals, and hence the world, along from social epoch to epoch has been rooted in The Great Blank.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the catch&#8211;Proper Art is a near impossible thing to plan out and achieve. It&#8217;s a divine gift of inspiration so rare that only the most foolish of artists would claim that they &#8220;actually set out to create it as such.&#8221;<br />
Below is the link I quoted this from </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepauper.com/artrepreneur/content/library/james_joyce_proper_art.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepauper.com/artrepreneur/content/library/james_joyce_proper_art.asp</a></p>
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