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		<title>By: Nelson.C</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042176</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson.C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reaction leaves it ambiguous as to what it is you&#039;re disbelieving. It&#039;s true that there are swastikas all over Japanese maps; it&#039;s an ancient symbol presently used to denote temples in East Asia (maybe South Asia, too?). See &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=kyoto,+japan&amp;aq=&amp;sll=54.136696,-4.042969&amp;sspn=16.423589,33.618164&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=Kyoto,+Kyoto+Prefecture,+Japan&amp;ll=35.013549,135.790973&amp;spn=0.023233,0.03283&amp;z=15&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, for example; swastikas everywhere. 

Some people don&#039;t know this, which is why it&#039;s still amusing to those who know to reveal this fact to those who don&#039;t and watch or imagine their reaction as they struggle to adjust their worldview. To us, swastikas are pavlovian symbols of evil. To Asians, they&#039;re symbols used to mark holy places on maps, ubiquitously mundane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reaction leaves it ambiguous as to what it is you&#8217;re disbelieving. It&#8217;s true that there are swastikas all over Japanese maps; it&#8217;s an ancient symbol presently used to denote temples in East Asia (maybe South Asia, too?). See <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&#038;source=s_q&#038;hl=en&#038;geocode=&#038;q=kyoto,+japan&#038;aq=&#038;sll=54.136696,-4.042969&#038;sspn=16.423589,33.618164&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;hq=&#038;hnear=Kyoto,+Kyoto+Prefecture,+Japan&#038;ll=35.013549,135.790973&#038;spn=0.023233,0.03283&#038;z=15">here</a>, for example; swastikas everywhere. </p>
<p>Some people don&#8217;t know this, which is why it&#8217;s still amusing to those who know to reveal this fact to those who don&#8217;t and watch or imagine their reaction as they struggle to adjust their worldview. To us, swastikas are pavlovian symbols of evil. To Asians, they&#8217;re symbols used to mark holy places on maps, ubiquitously mundane.</p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041922</link>
		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue whether or not QI was being insensitive. However, talking with a Japanese friend of mine, there is a certain level of collective survivor trauma that makes it Not Okay to even suggest that there might be something funny in anything remotely connected to the bombings, even now. The media did their damndest to Fox News up a frenzy about it (while not presenting a fair picture to the nation).

But the BBC, and Stephen Fry, still caved and apologized to the Japanese embassy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue whether or not QI was being insensitive. However, talking with a Japanese friend of mine, there is a certain level of collective survivor trauma that makes it Not Okay to even suggest that there might be something funny in anything remotely connected to the bombings, even now. The media did their damndest to Fox News up a frenzy about it (while not presenting a fair picture to the nation).</p>
<p>But the BBC, and Stephen Fry, still caved and apologized to the Japanese embassy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042439</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That reminds me of the Doug Anthony All Stars uniforms, just neater! 

eg.  http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lk3Uj1EL5-8/0.jpg

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That reminds me of the Doug Anthony All Stars uniforms, just neater! </p>
<p>eg.  <a href="http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lk3Uj1EL5-8/0.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lk3Uj1EL5-8/0.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: murrayhenson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041932</link>
		<dc:creator>murrayhenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are no one and make a Nazi joke or a Hiroshima joke, you can possibly be excused for being an insensitive boob who just didn&#039;t think before speaking.

When the BBC or Sony does it and dozens of people are involved with the joke, there is no excuse for being a bunch of insensitive boobs because they ALL thought before letting the joke play out.

I am more offended by how stupid these people are than by what they actually said or did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are no one and make a Nazi joke or a Hiroshima joke, you can possibly be excused for being an insensitive boob who just didn&#8217;t think before speaking.</p>
<p>When the BBC or Sony does it and dozens of people are involved with the joke, there is no excuse for being a bunch of insensitive boobs because they ALL thought before letting the joke play out.</p>
<p>I am more offended by how stupid these people are than by what they actually said or did.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041953</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me that niether the article here nor the commenters so far point out that the uniiforms the band is wearing resemble not just any Nazi uniforms but SS uniforms.  These guys are dressed up as concentration camp officers, not soldiers or airmen or Brownshirt thugs. 

--Beryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that niether the article here nor the commenters so far point out that the uniiforms the band is wearing resemble not just any Nazi uniforms but SS uniforms.  These guys are dressed up as concentration camp officers, not soldiers or airmen or Brownshirt thugs. </p>
<p>&#8211;Beryl</p>
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		<title>By: Teapunk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042465</link>
		<dc:creator>Teapunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame Japanese school books. Students lack the necessary information, they learn nothing about the WWII in school, nothing about the Japanese involvement in the Second World War. Europe and WWII for them is a land far away of which they know nothing. They know nothing about the Holocaust, now one could they &quot;Ignorance is bliss&quot; but like in most cases ignorance is just stupidity.
They just see &quot;Oh, fancy and provocative uniform, nice&quot;.
The only people who really do know about the Second World War in Japan seem to gather around Yasukuni shrine in August, and these are the ones who wear these uniforms in earnest. 
Fortunately, they are already rather old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame Japanese school books. Students lack the necessary information, they learn nothing about the WWII in school, nothing about the Japanese involvement in the Second World War. Europe and WWII for them is a land far away of which they know nothing. They know nothing about the Holocaust, now one could they &#8220;Ignorance is bliss&#8221; but like in most cases ignorance is just stupidity.<br />
They just see &#8220;Oh, fancy and provocative uniform, nice&#8221;.<br />
The only people who really do know about the Second World War in Japan seem to gather around Yasukuni shrine in August, and these are the ones who wear these uniforms in earnest.<br />
Fortunately, they are already rather old.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041703</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m outraged that they are ripping off their hairstyles from the Leningrad Cowboys!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m outraged that they are ripping off their hairstyles from the Leningrad Cowboys!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lilbacon3</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042727</link>
		<dc:creator>lilbacon3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> dn&#039;t ndrstnd why Jws gt s ngry bt ths knd f thng.  s thgh thy wr th nly ns prsctd by Nzs.  Rthr, thy tnd t b th mst hgh-prfl vctms nd s ths knd f msndrstndng fr prft.  Wht&#039;s mr f  crm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> dn&#8217;t ndrstnd why Jws gt s ngry bt ths knd f thng.  s thgh thy wr th nly ns prsctd by Nzs.  Rthr, thy tnd t b th mst hgh-prfl vctms nd s ths knd f msndrstndng fr prft.  Wht&#8217;s mr f  crm?</p>
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		<title>By: timogan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042472</link>
		<dc:creator>timogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a COSPLAY event in Taiwan a few years ago.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timogan/216137599/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a COSPLAY event in Taiwan a few years ago.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/timogan/216137599/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/timogan/216137599/</a></p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041963</link>
		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does dressing up as a particular kind of nazi mean it&#039;ll be less offensive than a different nazi outfit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does dressing up as a particular kind of nazi mean it&#8217;ll be less offensive than a different nazi outfit?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041708</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would submit that when Sony Music Artists asserts that &quot;there was no ideological meaning to the outfits,&quot; they are making a factual error. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would submit that when Sony Music Artists asserts that &#8220;there was no ideological meaning to the outfits,&#8221; they are making a factual error. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042476</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This crap happens in Japan way too often... when will people learn... it&#039;s getting pretty sad to keep seeing this kind of ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This crap happens in Japan way too often&#8230; when will people learn&#8230; it&#8217;s getting pretty sad to keep seeing this kind of ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: DoctressJulia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1043244</link>
		<dc:creator>DoctressJulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, please tell us more about your sexist, degrading &#039;Asian girl&#039; fetish. /s

http://feministing.com/2010/03/19/redefining-asians-and-the-internet-i-am-not-your-fetish/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, please tell us more about your sexist, degrading &#8216;Asian girl&#8217; fetish. /s</p>
<p><a href="http://feministing.com/2010/03/19/redefining-asians-and-the-internet-i-am-not-your-fetish/" rel="nofollow">http://feministing.com/2010/03/19/redefining-asians-and-the-internet-i-am-not-your-fetish/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Editz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041712</link>
		<dc:creator>Editz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-12-03/1259879836974.jpg</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041971</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://imgur.com/Ap8UG</description>
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		<title>By: osmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041716</link>
		<dc:creator>osmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha wierd. We get to use their horrible parts history to amuse us but oh noes if they would do the same to us. Its the history, no matter how horrible it was, no matter how much we must make sure certain things in it doesn&#039;t happen again (the building of Philadelphia by poor immigration workers by William Penn promising homes in the new city but giving them nothing real in the end for example... just to pick one randomly) - its still &quot;the History&quot;. We don&#039;t need to live in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha wierd. We get to use their horrible parts history to amuse us but oh noes if they would do the same to us. Its the history, no matter how horrible it was, no matter how much we must make sure certain things in it doesn&#8217;t happen again (the building of Philadelphia by poor immigration workers by William Penn promising homes in the new city but giving them nothing real in the end for example&#8230; just to pick one randomly) &#8211; its still &#8220;the History&#8221;. We don&#8217;t need to live in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041972</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Hitler&#039;s Youth were teenagers forced into the group. The SS, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Hitler&#8217;s Youth were teenagers forced into the group. The SS, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: jtegnell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042484</link>
		<dc:creator>jtegnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elix: of course I was joking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elix: of course I was joking!</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041721</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine Hitler would find some consolation in the fact that the mere &lt;i&gt;unintended visual motif&lt;/i&gt; of Nazi-era German uniforms still causes such a ruckus almost seven decades later. The severity of this taboo is rather absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine Hitler would find some consolation in the fact that the mere <i>unintended visual motif</i> of Nazi-era German uniforms still causes such a ruckus almost seven decades later. The severity of this taboo is rather absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042491</link>
		<dc:creator>elix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t sure. There&#039;ve been posters frequenting BB where they would&#039;ve been utterly serious. I was pretty sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t sure. There&#8217;ve been posters frequenting BB where they would&#8217;ve been utterly serious. I was pretty sure.</p>
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		<title>By: xzzy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041724</link>
		<dc:creator>xzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to express similar outrage for their hairstyles.

Where&#039;s my apology, Sony?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to express similar outrage for their hairstyles.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s my apology, Sony?</p>
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		<title>By: phead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041725</link>
		<dc:creator>phead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who do they think they are, the royal family?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4170083.stm (one of the great sun headlines)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who do they think they are, the royal family?</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4170083.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4170083.stm</a> (one of the great sun headlines)</p>
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		<title>By: arikol</title>
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		<dc:creator>arikol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these uniforms exude a certain aura, as they were designed to do.  They look  cool, imposing, authoritative, and, yes, somewhat shocking (due to their historical significance).
Somebody living far away from europe is unlikely to realize how offensive these uniforms are to many people due to their history, and I find it pretty likely that these musicians just didn&#039;t think that far, and neither did the local Sony bosses. It&#039;s just a matter of distance.

It&#039;s easy to misjudge other people&#039;s levels of comfort on stuff like this, and it becomes ever harder the further you are away (physically, culturally, and in time) from the events that cause negative feelings.
And treading the line between shocking and offensive is something that artists all over the world do everyday. Sometimes the make a misstep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these uniforms exude a certain aura, as they were designed to do.  They look  cool, imposing, authoritative, and, yes, somewhat shocking (due to their historical significance).<br />
Somebody living far away from europe is unlikely to realize how offensive these uniforms are to many people due to their history, and I find it pretty likely that these musicians just didn&#8217;t think that far, and neither did the local Sony bosses. It&#8217;s just a matter of distance.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to misjudge other people&#8217;s levels of comfort on stuff like this, and it becomes ever harder the further you are away (physically, culturally, and in time) from the events that cause negative feelings.<br />
And treading the line between shocking and offensive is something that artists all over the world do everyday. Sometimes the make a misstep.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking the same thing. The Japanese response to an unintentional insult (and a joke which hinged mainly on saying the survivor of both bombs was the unluckiest man in the world) was outrage. The British T.V. people involved, including Stephen Fry, apologized, but the Japanese rejected that apology and continued to maintain that they were horribly affronted in a manner which anyone should have been able to foresee.

I wonder if the Japanese can see the irony, and if they hope to be forgiven when they withheld forgiveness in a very similarly trivial incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking the same thing. The Japanese response to an unintentional insult (and a joke which hinged mainly on saying the survivor of both bombs was the unluckiest man in the world) was outrage. The British T.V. people involved, including Stephen Fry, apologized, but the Japanese rejected that apology and continued to maintain that they were horribly affronted in a manner which anyone should have been able to foresee.</p>
<p>I wonder if the Japanese can see the irony, and if they hope to be forgiven when they withheld forgiveness in a very similarly trivial incident.</p>
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		<title>By: siliconsunset</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041729</link>
		<dc:creator>siliconsunset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH NOES, IRON CROSSES.

The German army still uses the symbol. The American army has it on uniforms and decorations all across the branches. 

The Japanese have a different view of this sort of thing. In America kids dress up like this because they are Neo-Nazis or because they hate their parents and want to be aggressively &quot;different&quot;. In Japan the Nazis are just another villain to dress up as, like M. Bison or Umbrella Security guards. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH NOES, IRON CROSSES.</p>
<p>The German army still uses the symbol. The American army has it on uniforms and decorations all across the branches. </p>
<p>The Japanese have a different view of this sort of thing. In America kids dress up like this because they are Neo-Nazis or because they hate their parents and want to be aggressively &#8220;different&#8221;. In Japan the Nazis are just another villain to dress up as, like M. Bison or Umbrella Security guards. </p>
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		<title>By: a_user</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042498</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then you also need to blame the US.

At the end of WW2 McArthur went through the Japanese government and its agencies and rooted out anyone with right wing sympathies. Around 1949 however the US became paranoid about the Red Menace, so a second purge was organised replacing the left wing sympathisers with right wingers. The same ones who had been purged at the end of the war.

On the whole the Japanese politicians come from political dynasties and are not very in touch with the lives of the average citizen, and those on the right of the spectrum play to the gallery by making big gestures and sound bites. You can see a lot of this around the whaling debate where the US, Australia and the UK are painted as being under the thumb of of a gang of crusties called Greenpeace which is trying to tell Japan how to run it&#039;s business. Of course it&#039;s just safe sabre rattling, a chance to look big whilst not needing to worry the situation&#039;ll escalate into a physical war with the US. Thus honouring the dead at Yaskuni temple, is to get political brownie points.

I&#039;m always pleasantly surprised however by how much the majority of Japanese don&#039;t buy into the political, however they aren&#039;t the ones making laws and policy decisions or statements on behalf of the Japanese people. I have however seen Japanese police shutting down a line of blue speaker vans (owned by ultra nationalist groups but manned by off duty Yakuza)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/55505628_4eeb8c151d.jpg

trying to drown out a demonstration by 2nd and 3rd generation Koreans protesting the legal ruling on the comfort women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you also need to blame the US.</p>
<p>At the end of WW2 McArthur went through the Japanese government and its agencies and rooted out anyone with right wing sympathies. Around 1949 however the US became paranoid about the Red Menace, so a second purge was organised replacing the left wing sympathisers with right wingers. The same ones who had been purged at the end of the war.</p>
<p>On the whole the Japanese politicians come from political dynasties and are not very in touch with the lives of the average citizen, and those on the right of the spectrum play to the gallery by making big gestures and sound bites. You can see a lot of this around the whaling debate where the US, Australia and the UK are painted as being under the thumb of of a gang of crusties called Greenpeace which is trying to tell Japan how to run it&#8217;s business. Of course it&#8217;s just safe sabre rattling, a chance to look big whilst not needing to worry the situation&#8217;ll escalate into a physical war with the US. Thus honouring the dead at Yaskuni temple, is to get political brownie points.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always pleasantly surprised however by how much the majority of Japanese don&#8217;t buy into the political, however they aren&#8217;t the ones making laws and policy decisions or statements on behalf of the Japanese people. I have however seen Japanese police shutting down a line of blue speaker vans (owned by ultra nationalist groups but manned by off duty Yakuza)</p>
<p><a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/55505628_4eeb8c151d.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/55505628_4eeb8c151d.jpg</a></p>
<p>trying to drown out a demonstration by 2nd and 3rd generation Koreans protesting the legal ruling on the comfort women.</p>
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		<title>By: elix</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I can concede your point. But I don&#039;t really see much of a semantic difference if Kishidan had dressed up as, say, Luftwaffe officers. If one is going to be offended at Japanese pop stars dressing up as nazis, I expect that it&#039;d only be a bit more severe that they specifically resemble SS compared to any other uniform in the Third Reich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I can concede your point. But I don&#8217;t really see much of a semantic difference if Kishidan had dressed up as, say, Luftwaffe officers. If one is going to be offended at Japanese pop stars dressing up as nazis, I expect that it&#8217;d only be a bit more severe that they specifically resemble SS compared to any other uniform in the Third Reich.</p>
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		<title>By: a_user</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1042244</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the one hand there is nostalgia in both the US and the UK for the events of WW2 that you don&#039;t see in say France, mainly to do with the simple black and white nature of the situation I believe.

Then on the other, you have certain fruits of the Nazi regime, like rocket science, tacitly absorbed and unremarked upon. For a more morally questionable example I&#039;d urge people to look into the origins of the data used by the USAF on the effects of freezing water on the human body for example.

In Japan this latter, it&#039;s there but not talked about, is the prevailing attitude regarding WW2. People are much more aware of what happened in WW2 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/21/japan-excavates-site-human-experiments

than their politicians appear to admit to, but then the post war political direction of Japan was formed by US foreign policy scared that the communists would take over.


 
There is also a cultural trend of revisiting WW2 as a backdrop to human drama without getting &quot;bogged down&quot; in the &quot;messy&quot; political aspect like Yamato 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451845/ 

Oddly enough Ben Aflick said pretty much the same thing when he was in Tokyo for the cinema launch of Pearl Harbour, focus on the human drama more than the events unfolding around the love story.


For every Nazi cosplayer I&#039;ll raise you a WW2 re-enactment group.

Yes the political right is on the rise, all over, but these guys are at the bottom of my worry list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand there is nostalgia in both the US and the UK for the events of WW2 that you don&#8217;t see in say France, mainly to do with the simple black and white nature of the situation I believe.</p>
<p>Then on the other, you have certain fruits of the Nazi regime, like rocket science, tacitly absorbed and unremarked upon. For a more morally questionable example I&#8217;d urge people to look into the origins of the data used by the USAF on the effects of freezing water on the human body for example.</p>
<p>In Japan this latter, it&#8217;s there but not talked about, is the prevailing attitude regarding WW2. People are much more aware of what happened in WW2 </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/21/japan-excavates-site-human-experiments" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/21/japan-excavates-site-human-experiments</a></p>
<p>than their politicians appear to admit to, but then the post war political direction of Japan was formed by US foreign policy scared that the communists would take over.</p>
<p>There is also a cultural trend of revisiting WW2 as a backdrop to human drama without getting &#8220;bogged down&#8221; in the &#8220;messy&#8221; political aspect like Yamato<br />
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451845/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451845/</a> </p>
<p>Oddly enough Ben Aflick said pretty much the same thing when he was in Tokyo for the cinema launch of Pearl Harbour, focus on the human drama more than the events unfolding around the love story.</p>
<p>For every Nazi cosplayer I&#8217;ll raise you a WW2 re-enactment group.</p>
<p>Yes the political right is on the rise, all over, but these guys are at the bottom of my worry list.</p>
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		<title>By: siliconsunset</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041733</link>
		<dc:creator>siliconsunset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem, the American *military*. My bad.</description>
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		<title>By: scifijazznik</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/02/outrage-at-japanese.html#comment-1041734</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that you should just run, run so far away.</description>
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