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	<title>Comments on: UK census smackdown: atheists decry&#160;Jedi!</title>
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		<title>By: Zoman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1049088</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That is a whooping Â£35000. They are not becoming rich.&quot;

Personally, I don&#039;t socially know anybody that earns Â£35,000 a year. Anyway, being on the British Humanist Association board of trustees is not what they refer to as their day job. Moralising, and trying to subvert public opinion is what they do for sh*t&#039;s and giggles in their free time.

As an agnostic who self-regulates my own brand morality, I find this organisation far from laudable. My definition of charity doesn&#039;t stretch to organisation that in 2009 spent Â£511,000 on staffing costs including a sweet Â£80,000 &quot;retirement package&quot; for the former Chief Executive. An organisation that in 2009 only took in Â£885,000. So they blew 58% of their incoming on staffing, and actually helped whom exactly? The poor, the needy, the socially variable, kids with autism perhaps? Nope, nobody really. They married a few hippies* - whoopie freakin-do.

In conclusion: Not a charity! A collective of sanctimonious opinionated middle class whites who believe their Humanist message REALLY needs to shared. Preaching virtue without religion while quite happily pocketing half a million in donation money. Just, wow...

(* sorry, I couldn&#039;t resist the generalisation). 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is a whooping Â£35000. They are not becoming rich.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t socially know anybody that earns Â£35,000 a year. Anyway, being on the British Humanist Association board of trustees is not what they refer to as their day job. Moralising, and trying to subvert public opinion is what they do for sh*t&#8217;s and giggles in their free time.</p>
<p>As an agnostic who self-regulates my own brand morality, I find this organisation far from laudable. My definition of charity doesn&#8217;t stretch to organisation that in 2009 spent Â£511,000 on staffing costs including a sweet Â£80,000 &#8220;retirement package&#8221; for the former Chief Executive. An organisation that in 2009 only took in Â£885,000. So they blew 58% of their incoming on staffing, and actually helped whom exactly? The poor, the needy, the socially variable, kids with autism perhaps? Nope, nobody really. They married a few hippies* &#8211; whoopie freakin-do.</p>
<p>In conclusion: Not a charity! A collective of sanctimonious opinionated middle class whites who believe their Humanist message REALLY needs to shared. Preaching virtue without religion while quite happily pocketing half a million in donation money. Just, wow&#8230;</p>
<p>(* sorry, I couldn&#8217;t resist the generalisation). </p>
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		<title>By: Lobster</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047296</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m waiting for a Bad Religion box.  Because Los Angeles is bu~urning!</description>
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		<title>By: wn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1060353</link>
		<dc:creator>wn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidence that 1) &quot;your baby is not a theist&quot; and 2) &quot;it is a scientist&quot; is easy.

A theism is not trivial. You can&#039;t believe in something you&#039;ve never heard, for instance. Your baby can&#039;t possibly believe in god until it&#039;s old enough to be indoctrinated. (Understands speech, remembers details, etc.)

As for it being a scientist, it&#039;s trying things and seeing what works. Testing its assumptions. That&#039;s science in a nutshell. If it just made up answers and took things on faith (not looking to see if there was something to step onto) it could never learn.

Unfortunately most of that ability goes away once the indoctrination sets in.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidence that 1) &#8220;your baby is not a theist&#8221; and 2) &#8220;it is a scientist&#8221; is easy.</p>
<p>A theism is not trivial. You can&#8217;t believe in something you&#8217;ve never heard, for instance. Your baby can&#8217;t possibly believe in god until it&#8217;s old enough to be indoctrinated. (Understands speech, remembers details, etc.)</p>
<p>As for it being a scientist, it&#8217;s trying things and seeing what works. Testing its assumptions. That&#8217;s science in a nutshell. If it just made up answers and took things on faith (not looking to see if there was something to step onto) it could never learn.</p>
<p>Unfortunately most of that ability goes away once the indoctrination sets in.</p>
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		<title>By: shadowfirebird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047809</link>
		<dc:creator>shadowfirebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that your atheist complainers are assuming that EVERYONE who said &quot;jedi&quot; last time were just &quot;having a lark&quot;.

No doubt a lot of them were.  But I really doubt it was everyone.  I suspect the reasons were more complex than that.   I *know* that *people* are more complex than that.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that your atheist complainers are assuming that EVERYONE who said &#8220;jedi&#8221; last time were just &#8220;having a lark&#8221;.</p>
<p>No doubt a lot of them were.  But I really doubt it was everyone.  I suspect the reasons were more complex than that.   I *know* that *people* are more complex than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1048325</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said to the Pope, last time we had dinner, when he posited that I ought to tick &#039;xtian&#039; on my census:

&#039;Ratzi, you piece of slime ridden filth- you&#039;ll get no such pleasure from us&#039;. He took it well. But who&#039;s to say what he asked God to do to me later that night?

(Cue creepy laugh, screen fades to black)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said to the Pope, last time we had dinner, when he posited that I ought to tick &#8216;xtian&#8217; on my census:</p>
<p>&#8216;Ratzi, you piece of slime ridden filth- you&#8217;ll get no such pleasure from us&#8217;. He took it well. But who&#8217;s to say what he asked God to do to me later that night?</p>
<p>(Cue creepy laugh, screen fades to black)</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1048838</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that Jedi is just a misspelling of Geordie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that Jedi is just a misspelling of Geordie?</p>
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		<title>By: jerwin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047303</link>
		<dc:creator>jerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming down firmly on the &quot;Works&quot; side, eh? </description>
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		<title>By: monstrinho_do_biscoito</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1049610</link>
		<dc:creator>monstrinho_do_biscoito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i shall be putting &#039;Autobot&#039;</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1048081</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For God&#039;s sake, tick no religion.
And for Christ&#039;s sake, don&#039;t be a Pagan.  You&#039;re not more &quot;special&quot; if you say you believe in an out of the ordinary pretend man in the sky.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For God&#8217;s sake, tick no religion.<br />
And for Christ&#8217;s sake, don&#8217;t be a Pagan.  You&#8217;re not more &#8220;special&#8221; if you say you believe in an out of the ordinary pretend man in the sky.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1048337</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The religion part of the census form was broken, so I fixed it. http://twitpic.com/47sryy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The religion part of the census form was broken, so I fixed it. <a href="http://twitpic.com/47sryy" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/47sryy</a></p>
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		<title>By: darkmobius</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1048346</link>
		<dc:creator>darkmobius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember writing in &quot;Jedi&quot; in the 2001 census and for those that decried you on twitter etc, the UK Government actually DID count those as &quot;no religion&quot;. Which angered those that wanted Jedi officially recognized especially as it was more than sikhism and judaism. I may be an atheist but I&#039;m one with a sense of humour and a sense of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember writing in &#8220;Jedi&#8221; in the 2001 census and for those that decried you on twitter etc, the UK Government actually DID count those as &#8220;no religion&#8221;. Which angered those that wanted Jedi officially recognized especially as it was more than sikhism and judaism. I may be an atheist but I&#8217;m one with a sense of humour and a sense of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: butcherknife</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047331</link>
		<dc:creator>butcherknife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mdh
We have hope that we can work together to make human communities better for all...now and in the future. We don&#039;t have any hope that a higher power will be helping with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mdh<br />
We have hope that we can work together to make human communities better for all&#8230;now and in the future. We don&#8217;t have any hope that a higher power will be helping with this.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkM</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047847</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory makes a point I&#039;d&#039;ve never considered and now will never
myself consider voting a &quot;joke&quot; religion if that box is offered.

If you vote &quot;Jedi&quot; you&#039;re allowing your vote to be marginalized
and discarded.  Politicians can very easily discount those votes
as fringe elements and wackos, people whose interests should not
be taken seriously, since they themselves are unintelligible and
do not take themselves seriously.

To put it another way:
&lt;b&gt;If you vote &quot;Jedi&quot;, you&#039;re saying &quot;Let the wookie win.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory makes a point I&#8217;d've never considered and now will never<br />
myself consider voting a &#8220;joke&#8221; religion if that box is offered.</p>
<p>If you vote &#8220;Jedi&#8221; you&#8217;re allowing your vote to be marginalized<br />
and discarded.  Politicians can very easily discount those votes<br />
as fringe elements and wackos, people whose interests should not<br />
be taken seriously, since they themselves are unintelligible and<br />
do not take themselves seriously.</p>
<p>To put it another way:<br />
<b>If you vote &#8220;Jedi&#8221;, you&#8217;re saying &#8220;Let the wookie win.&#8221;</b></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047340</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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There&#039;s also the problem of imperfect questionnaires. There is ALWAYS a trade-off problem of keeping the questionnaire clean and simple on one hand (i.e. which few options can you default to) and aggregating and reading the results on the other (i.e. what does the state fund and talk about). 

For an anecdotal example, i would like to see the default option pantheist (God is the universe?) in hope of funding for a cluster of large telescopes in L2 to research the beginning of the universe. The Gods belong to the other side of The Singularity where they, freed of the burden of time, can  design complicating schemes of how to make the universe better.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the problem of imperfect questionnaires. There is ALWAYS a trade-off problem of keeping the questionnaire clean and simple on one hand (i.e. which few options can you default to) and aggregating and reading the results on the other (i.e. what does the state fund and talk about). </p>
<p>For an anecdotal example, i would like to see the default option pantheist (God is the universe?) in hope of funding for a cluster of large telescopes in L2 to research the beginning of the universe. The Gods belong to the other side of The Singularity where they, freed of the burden of time, can  design complicating schemes of how to make the universe better.</p>
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		<title>By: penguinchris</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047858</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get why people put Jedi on their census form (though I wouldn&#039;t personally - I&#039;d mark &quot;No Religion&quot; - full-on atheist here) but I never saw the Jedi as really having a religious aspect, even before the &quot;explanation&quot; in Episode 1, and even though Han Solo refers to it as a religion. Solo at that point doesn&#039;t know anything about it, and externally it&#039;d be easy to mistake it for a religion.

The original films treated it as how Obi-Wan described it: &quot;The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It&#039;s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.&quot;

Basically, the force is just molecular physics! 

Being genetically inclined to be able to manipulate physics has nothing to do with religion. It&#039;s kind of like X-Men actually (disclaimer: I don&#039;t know anything about X-Men). It&#039;s one of the deviations from reality that &quot;binds&quot; the Star Wars &quot;universe&quot; together, and which doesn&#039;t require a logical explanation (all fantasy/sci-fi stories have these aspects: it&#039;s how they work).

Actually, I don&#039;t find the midichlorian explanation from Ep. 1 that abhorrent, as many do. It fits perfectly with what was explained in the original films, and makes sense from a genetics standpoint. If it really had anything to do with religion or faith, then anyone could become a jedi or sith master if they trained hard enough, and that&#039;s simply not the case.

Of course, the genetics explanation doesn&#039;t fully hold up, because of evolution - clearly being able to utilize the force is an incredible evolutionary advantage. One would imagine that eventually everyone would have at least some ability to use the force. I suppose this can be explained by the occasional purges where the jedi are killed off because everyone else becomes afraid of them. Perhaps most jedi don&#039;t end up mating, either - apparently they turn into whiny bitches when that happens, so maybe most avoid it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get why people put Jedi on their census form (though I wouldn&#8217;t personally &#8211; I&#8217;d mark &#8220;No Religion&#8221; &#8211; full-on atheist here) but I never saw the Jedi as really having a religious aspect, even before the &#8220;explanation&#8221; in Episode 1, and even though Han Solo refers to it as a religion. Solo at that point doesn&#8217;t know anything about it, and externally it&#8217;d be easy to mistake it for a religion.</p>
<p>The original films treated it as how Obi-Wan described it: &#8220;The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It&#8217;s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically, the force is just molecular physics! </p>
<p>Being genetically inclined to be able to manipulate physics has nothing to do with religion. It&#8217;s kind of like X-Men actually (disclaimer: I don&#8217;t know anything about X-Men). It&#8217;s one of the deviations from reality that &#8220;binds&#8221; the Star Wars &#8220;universe&#8221; together, and which doesn&#8217;t require a logical explanation (all fantasy/sci-fi stories have these aspects: it&#8217;s how they work).</p>
<p>Actually, I don&#8217;t find the midichlorian explanation from Ep. 1 that abhorrent, as many do. It fits perfectly with what was explained in the original films, and makes sense from a genetics standpoint. If it really had anything to do with religion or faith, then anyone could become a jedi or sith master if they trained hard enough, and that&#8217;s simply not the case.</p>
<p>Of course, the genetics explanation doesn&#8217;t fully hold up, because of evolution &#8211; clearly being able to utilize the force is an incredible evolutionary advantage. One would imagine that eventually everyone would have at least some ability to use the force. I suppose this can be explained by the occasional purges where the jedi are killed off because everyone else becomes afraid of them. Perhaps most jedi don&#8217;t end up mating, either &#8211; apparently they turn into whiny bitches when that happens, so maybe most avoid it :)</p>
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		<title>By: ihakes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047091</link>
		<dc:creator>ihakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are not the Christians you&#039;re looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are not the Christians you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Rooker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047092</link>
		<dc:creator>Rooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less than three you, man. LESS THAN THREE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less than three you, man. LESS THAN THREE!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047604</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about those of us that are practice Zensunnism?</description>
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		<title>By: Prufrock451</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047097</link>
		<dc:creator>Prufrock451</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good! Good! You want this community center funding, don&#039;t you? The atheism is swelling in you now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good! Good! You want this community center funding, don&#8217;t you? The atheism is swelling in you now. </p>
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		<title>By: freshacconci</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047099</link>
		<dc:creator>freshacconci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what if you fall somewhere in that grey zone between agnosticism and atheism, and you sometimes attend church for weddings, funerals and baptisms, and you still put up a tree at Xmas, and you recently prayed when you thought you locked your keys in the car during a heavy snow? What then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what if you fall somewhere in that grey zone between agnosticism and atheism, and you sometimes attend church for weddings, funerals and baptisms, and you still put up a tree at Xmas, and you recently prayed when you thought you locked your keys in the car during a heavy snow? What then?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really sure I agree with the rationale that it&#039;s better to keep the numbers accurate, Cory. It seems to me that listing one&#039;s religion as &quot;Jedi&quot; is meant to point out that government shouldn&#039;t be making decisions based on religious majorities, not that religions are unimportant, malevolent, or indefensible.

But given that I&#039;m a US citizen far removed from the issue, you really shouldn&#039;t listen to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really sure I agree with the rationale that it&#8217;s better to keep the numbers accurate, Cory. It seems to me that listing one&#8217;s religion as &#8220;Jedi&#8221; is meant to point out that government shouldn&#8217;t be making decisions based on religious majorities, not that religions are unimportant, malevolent, or indefensible.</p>
<p>But given that I&#8217;m a US citizen far removed from the issue, you really shouldn&#8217;t listen to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047358</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I separate theists, atheists and antitheists.

It&#039;s one thing to say you don&#039;t like the Rolling Stones but respect their fans&#039; choice; it&#039;s another to say the Rolling Stones suck and the Beatles are the best band of all time hands down and how could anyone possibly not like the Beatles. It&#039;s another to say you don&#039;t like rock music.

Religion and faith are choices. Having no faith nor religion is a choice as well.

Don&#039;t knock someone for having a faith and don&#039;t knock someone for not having your faith (whatever that may be).

Though I don&#039;t agree with it, I will never tell someone that they shouldn&#039;t be a Scientologist, just as I don&#039;t want anyone to judge my choice in whatever it may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I separate theists, atheists and antitheists.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to say you don&#8217;t like the Rolling Stones but respect their fans&#8217; choice; it&#8217;s another to say the Rolling Stones suck and the Beatles are the best band of all time hands down and how could anyone possibly not like the Beatles. It&#8217;s another to say you don&#8217;t like rock music.</p>
<p>Religion and faith are choices. Having no faith nor religion is a choice as well.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t knock someone for having a faith and don&#8217;t knock someone for not having your faith (whatever that may be).</p>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t agree with it, I will never tell someone that they shouldn&#8217;t be a Scientologist, just as I don&#8217;t want anyone to judge my choice in whatever it may be.</p>
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		<title>By: legalspy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047106</link>
		<dc:creator>legalspy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having seen a Census document up close by the time you get to the Religion question you are already exhausted.

They have no option for lapsed catholic so I will be staying neutral on this subject</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having seen a Census document up close by the time you get to the Religion question you are already exhausted.</p>
<p>They have no option for lapsed catholic so I will be staying neutral on this subject</p>
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		<title>By: quori</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047618</link>
		<dc:creator>quori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO! :)</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047109</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith schools? Is this why?

Surely monies can only be allocated to a true source,
so stating &#039;Jedi&#039; will NOT then allocate monies to Catholic 
or Jewish schools.

Regardless of faith, we are still forced to pay for church upkeep
in our council tax and more if we purchase a home that is near one.
Money that I&#039;d rather put in my own churches pocket, or for those who do not want/need a faith, they&#039;d rather keep for more practical use.

The gov can&#039;t ignore &#039;Jedi&#039; either, given some have taken upon themselves to initiate such a church (Acc to above links.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith schools? Is this why?</p>
<p>Surely monies can only be allocated to a true source,<br />
so stating &#8216;Jedi&#8217; will NOT then allocate monies to Catholic<br />
or Jewish schools.</p>
<p>Regardless of faith, we are still forced to pay for church upkeep<br />
in our council tax and more if we purchase a home that is near one.<br />
Money that I&#8217;d rather put in my own churches pocket, or for those who do not want/need a faith, they&#8217;d rather keep for more practical use.</p>
<p>The gov can&#8217;t ignore &#8216;Jedi&#8217; either, given some have taken upon themselves to initiate such a church (Acc to above links.)</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047882</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It didn&#039;t go over my head, I was using the word hope, from the joke, to make a point about atheism. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It didn&#8217;t go over my head, I was using the word hope, from the joke, to make a point about atheism. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047115</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care what the Anti-theist say. I think it is a good idea, if they are getting their panties in a wad  maybe they should look closer to home. If you don&#039;t want funding for religion based services then they should start providing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care what the Anti-theist say. I think it is a good idea, if they are getting their panties in a wad  maybe they should look closer to home. If you don&#8217;t want funding for religion based services then they should start providing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047371</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is government involved in acquiring this data at all? Wouldn&#039;t the appropriate atheist response be to refuse to answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is government involved in acquiring this data at all? Wouldn&#8217;t the appropriate atheist response be to refuse to answer?</p>
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		<title>By: butcherknife</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047116</link>
		<dc:creator>butcherknife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@freshacconci
Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and that Jesus is God in human form and is the savior of humanity? If yes, you are a Christian...If no, then you are not a Christian.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@freshacconci<br />
Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and that Jesus is God in human form and is the savior of humanity? If yes, you are a Christian&#8230;If no, then you are not a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html#comment-1047117</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would probably depend on who you prayed to, for starters.

If you prayed to Jesus the Christ, attend Christian church for baptisms, and celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th, you&#039;re a Christian, like it or not.  Better look virtuous in case of rapture!

If you prayed to any member of the Greek or Roman pantheon, and celebrate the Saturnalia with a tree on Dec 25th, you are some sort of pagan, probably of a Roman flavor.  Observe the appropriate rituals and your gods will be propitiated, and they don&#039;t really care what else you do.

But remember you can have a god and not have a religion, and there are plenty of atheist religions.  The various theisms and atheisms are belief systems, but a religion is a community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would probably depend on who you prayed to, for starters.</p>
<p>If you prayed to Jesus the Christ, attend Christian church for baptisms, and celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th, you&#8217;re a Christian, like it or not.  Better look virtuous in case of rapture!</p>
<p>If you prayed to any member of the Greek or Roman pantheon, and celebrate the Saturnalia with a tree on Dec 25th, you are some sort of pagan, probably of a Roman flavor.  Observe the appropriate rituals and your gods will be propitiated, and they don&#8217;t really care what else you do.</p>
<p>But remember you can have a god and not have a religion, and there are plenty of atheist religions.  The various theisms and atheisms are belief systems, but a religion is a community.</p>
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