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	<title>Comments on: This is not a plate of nachos: The food magic of Homaro Cantu and Ben&#160;Roche</title>
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		<title>By: Neon Tooth</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1050123</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon Tooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And far too many people are trying to capitalize on it right now.&lt;/i&gt;

Moto&#039;s been open the better part of a decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And far too many people are trying to capitalize on it right now.</i></p>
<p>Moto&#8217;s been open the better part of a decade.</p>
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		<title>By: wigg1es</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049119</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We put it in a $1.99 ashtray and charge you about 20 bucks for it.&quot;

That pretty much sums up the entirety of the molecular gastronomy (a phrase which Ferran AdriÃ  no longer even uses) scene.

A lot of flash, very little substance. And far too many people are trying to capitalize on it right now. 

The pioneers of this style were successful because they weren&#039;t selling a product, they were selling an experience that was almost entirely a mystery and was completely unbelievable. Now that mystery is gone and the experience is expected. There&#039;s nothing left. This sort of 4 hour, 26 course tasting menu style dining is on its way out, thankfully.

Or maybe I&#039;ve just been reading too much Bourdain lately. Who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We put it in a $1.99 ashtray and charge you about 20 bucks for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That pretty much sums up the entirety of the molecular gastronomy (a phrase which Ferran AdriÃ  no longer even uses) scene.</p>
<p>A lot of flash, very little substance. And far too many people are trying to capitalize on it right now. </p>
<p>The pioneers of this style were successful because they weren&#8217;t selling a product, they were selling an experience that was almost entirely a mystery and was completely unbelievable. Now that mystery is gone and the experience is expected. There&#8217;s nothing left. This sort of 4 hour, 26 course tasting menu style dining is on its way out, thankfully.</p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;ve just been reading too much Bourdain lately. Who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: magneticwheels</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049128</link>
		<dc:creator>magneticwheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this kind of thing makes me want to jump up and down and scream for several reasons:

moral: LITERALLY millions of people on the planet can&#039;t get enough to eat, and here these clowns are playing with their food! as a chef, i can tell you that the production of this kind of stuff is incredibly wasteful- at least half of what could be edible food goes straight in the trash just to get to the &quot;fun&quot; parts of the food.

aesthetic: what&#039;s the point of making one food that looks like another? it photographs well, and it&#039;s a conversation starter, but as far as what you&#039;d want to EAT, it&#039;s pretty silly. it&#039;s basically highly processed gobbledygook that&#039;s meant to bring to mind some other food or sensory experience. why can&#039;t food just be food? take for example the &quot;english pea balls&quot; served at a linea: fresh english peas are blanched, pureed, then treated with a chemical that causes them to form into perfectly pea-shaped globules when blanched again. all of this to produce a highly processed baby-food like substance. all of this is essentially just a big gimmick. it&#039;s the food equivalent of one of those &quot;magic eye&quot; painting. 

economic: as i said before, highly wasteful. the chef says himself that he charges $20 for something that you can get for $5 at any taqueria. this sort of thing is just a fun way to part the gullible rich with their money. who do you think is laying down money for this? it&#039;s douchebag-chow, basically.

social: as a long-time chef, i can attest to the fact that most of the people who are willing to lay down bucks for this stuff are people who feel the need to derive some portion of their self-worth from &quot;fancy-ness&quot; and &quot;gourmet-ness.&quot; the sorts of people who feel that it makes them somehow better/smarter/cooler than everyone else. they generally look down on the staff that&#039;s serving them this shit, but suck up to the chef/owner as some sort of visionary genius. these people are bores, basically, who hide their lack of depth or understanding of life behind a scrim of faux-sophistication.

i agree with livy that the veneration of chefs indicates a culture in decline.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this kind of thing makes me want to jump up and down and scream for several reasons:</p>
<p>moral: LITERALLY millions of people on the planet can&#8217;t get enough to eat, and here these clowns are playing with their food! as a chef, i can tell you that the production of this kind of stuff is incredibly wasteful- at least half of what could be edible food goes straight in the trash just to get to the &#8220;fun&#8221; parts of the food.</p>
<p>aesthetic: what&#8217;s the point of making one food that looks like another? it photographs well, and it&#8217;s a conversation starter, but as far as what you&#8217;d want to EAT, it&#8217;s pretty silly. it&#8217;s basically highly processed gobbledygook that&#8217;s meant to bring to mind some other food or sensory experience. why can&#8217;t food just be food? take for example the &#8220;english pea balls&#8221; served at a linea: fresh english peas are blanched, pureed, then treated with a chemical that causes them to form into perfectly pea-shaped globules when blanched again. all of this to produce a highly processed baby-food like substance. all of this is essentially just a big gimmick. it&#8217;s the food equivalent of one of those &#8220;magic eye&#8221; painting. </p>
<p>economic: as i said before, highly wasteful. the chef says himself that he charges $20 for something that you can get for $5 at any taqueria. this sort of thing is just a fun way to part the gullible rich with their money. who do you think is laying down money for this? it&#8217;s douchebag-chow, basically.</p>
<p>social: as a long-time chef, i can attest to the fact that most of the people who are willing to lay down bucks for this stuff are people who feel the need to derive some portion of their self-worth from &#8220;fancy-ness&#8221; and &#8220;gourmet-ness.&#8221; the sorts of people who feel that it makes them somehow better/smarter/cooler than everyone else. they generally look down on the staff that&#8217;s serving them this shit, but suck up to the chef/owner as some sort of visionary genius. these people are bores, basically, who hide their lack of depth or understanding of life behind a scrim of faux-sophistication.</p>
<p>i agree with livy that the veneration of chefs indicates a culture in decline.</p>
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		<title>By: Swizzlebat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049395</link>
		<dc:creator>Swizzlebat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with the commenters who find this pretty distasteful. &quot;Entertainment?&quot; Yeah, I suppose, for  the terminally bored who can afford it. Do you imagine all this culinary hocus-pocus comes cheap?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be honest, this stuff reminds me of Space-Food Sticks from the 60s (&quot;it&#039;s food the &lt;i&gt;astronauts&lt;/i&gt; eat).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with the commenters who find this pretty distasteful. &#8220;Entertainment?&#8221; Yeah, I suppose, for  the terminally bored who can afford it. Do you imagine all this culinary hocus-pocus comes cheap?</p>
<p>To be honest, this stuff reminds me of Space-Food Sticks from the 60s (&#8220;it&#8217;s food the <i>astronauts</i> eat).</p>
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		<title>By: GoodDogMiami</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049145</link>
		<dc:creator>GoodDogMiami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, chill out. It&#039;s novelty. Entertainment. Do you enjoy anything or are you this sanctimonious all the time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, chill out. It&#8217;s novelty. Entertainment. Do you enjoy anything or are you this sanctimonious all the time?</p>
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		<title>By: krawl3R</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049408</link>
		<dc:creator>krawl3R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the arts and entertainment aspect. This is not only for the gluttonous rich. Miracle berries can be bought, and this can be made at home. Lighten up. It&#039;s not wasteful. It is still enjoyed as food. There are a lot worse restaurants that I have paid more for less quality, originality and taste. This is a capitalist society and that&#039;s okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the arts and entertainment aspect. This is not only for the gluttonous rich. Miracle berries can be bought, and this can be made at home. Lighten up. It&#8217;s not wasteful. It is still enjoyed as food. There are a lot worse restaurants that I have paid more for less quality, originality and taste. This is a capitalist society and that&#8217;s okay.</p>
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		<title>By: I am the walrus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1054786</link>
		<dc:creator>I am the walrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s true, I patent, copyright and protect a lot of the innovations you may have read about. Not because I want to, but because I have to. The reality is with food, the elephant in the room is GMO, and other patents the may be bought and sold to inevitably be lost in the process of business. The fact is creative commons will never outpace the ingenuity of commercialized food product design. These patents and intellectual properties I file will become and provide capital for the developing world, those in need and those that need to compete. I didn&#039;t create the current system, I am simply trying to make it work.
HC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s true, I patent, copyright and protect a lot of the innovations you may have read about. Not because I want to, but because I have to. The reality is with food, the elephant in the room is GMO, and other patents the may be bought and sold to inevitably be lost in the process of business. The fact is creative commons will never outpace the ingenuity of commercialized food product design. These patents and intellectual properties I file will become and provide capital for the developing world, those in need and those that need to compete. I didn&#8217;t create the current system, I am simply trying to make it work.<br />
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		<title>By: sam1148</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049411</link>
		<dc:creator>sam1148</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually. A LOT of modernist cooking comes from commercial food industry. The Modernists just use those tools to create a modern &#039;high class&#039; type. It is indeed weird as the &#039;hocus pocus&#039; is mostly from industrial type processing, technology, and additives for foods. (natural addtives in most cases such as binders and gells). 

Things like veggies burgers for the mass market, egg substitutes, Gluten Free mixes..all use similar techs. 

IMHO, I think it&#039;s a good influence; using the tools and tech to explore, hack, and create...along with failures and excesses and transformations. 

Heck, JELLO and gelatin deserts, pudding and whipped cream, breakfast cereal, wheat germ..etc where once considered upper class luxury before it was packaged for the mass market with new technology of refrigeration. When those first appeared it was for the upper crust society only.
Today, it&#039;s commonplace. 

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually. A LOT of modernist cooking comes from commercial food industry. The Modernists just use those tools to create a modern &#8216;high class&#8217; type. It is indeed weird as the &#8216;hocus pocus&#8217; is mostly from industrial type processing, technology, and additives for foods. (natural addtives in most cases such as binders and gells). </p>
<p>Things like veggies burgers for the mass market, egg substitutes, Gluten Free mixes..all use similar techs. </p>
<p>IMHO, I think it&#8217;s a good influence; using the tools and tech to explore, hack, and create&#8230;along with failures and excesses and transformations. </p>
<p>Heck, JELLO and gelatin deserts, pudding and whipped cream, breakfast cereal, wheat germ..etc where once considered upper class luxury before it was packaged for the mass market with new technology of refrigeration. When those first appeared it was for the upper crust society only.<br />
Today, it&#8217;s commonplace. </p>
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		<title>By: pjk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049162</link>
		<dc:creator>pjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but I really wanted nachos.</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Ochsenhirt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049684</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Ochsenhirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like to eat desert.  Too gritty.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGlJZiaT6kA&quot;&gt;How &#039;bout a nice, greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with both commenters #1 and #2 about the general douchebaggery that can be attributed to some of this kind of cuisine, I also feel that some of this kind of exploration and experimentation can fall more into the realm of art, and therefore should not be dismissed entirely on such simple terms. Creating an experience for a diner doesn&#039;t have to be strictly about eating for the sake of eating a meal. It can also be an experience that can challenge expectations and perhaps change the way a person thinks about food. ...just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with both commenters #1 and #2 about the general douchebaggery that can be attributed to some of this kind of cuisine, I also feel that some of this kind of exploration and experimentation can fall more into the realm of art, and therefore should not be dismissed entirely on such simple terms. Creating an experience for a diner doesn&#8217;t have to be strictly about eating for the sake of eating a meal. It can also be an experience that can challenge expectations and perhaps change the way a person thinks about food. &#8230;just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: GoodDogMiami</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoodDogMiami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, go to YouTube and look at the video. There are some very useful potential applications for and implications regarding some of their ideas. </description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Japanese, arguably widely regarded as skilled chefs, have a traditional saying when sitting down to eat - &quot;Itadakimasu&quot;. This translates quite literally to &quot;I humbly receive&quot;, and it originates from Buddhist practice as an expression of thanks toward those responsible for the creation of the meal - from the chef, to the farmer, and even down to the living creature itself, plant or animal.

In English speaking countries with Christian heritages, a similar tradition exists, although it seems to have become far less common during my lifetime - the saying of &quot;Grace&quot;. While the modern form of this saying is perhaps not as elegant as Itadakimasu, the core concept behind it all is still the same - try to be truly thankful for the food you have, for the people who made it, and for the creatures that died that you might live.

While there is something to be said for entertainment and art, there is something much more pressing to be said for starvation and malnutrition. It doesn&#039;t matter that this is &quot;merely&quot; a small issue in a sea of larger troubles, it is a poor argument that sat that those who see this sort of cuisine as wasteful are simply killjoys or are overly serious.

Yes, if I had to choose one thing to fix about the world, it wouldn&#039;t be this. It would be something much more important, like shifting unthinkable amounts of resource expendature away from systematized killing and toward improving quality of life for all. But that doesn&#039;t mean this sort of activity is any more innocent or harmless, in and of itself.

~D. Walker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Japanese, arguably widely regarded as skilled chefs, have a traditional saying when sitting down to eat &#8211; &#8220;Itadakimasu&#8221;. This translates quite literally to &#8220;I humbly receive&#8221;, and it originates from Buddhist practice as an expression of thanks toward those responsible for the creation of the meal &#8211; from the chef, to the farmer, and even down to the living creature itself, plant or animal.</p>
<p>In English speaking countries with Christian heritages, a similar tradition exists, although it seems to have become far less common during my lifetime &#8211; the saying of &#8220;Grace&#8221;. While the modern form of this saying is perhaps not as elegant as Itadakimasu, the core concept behind it all is still the same &#8211; try to be truly thankful for the food you have, for the people who made it, and for the creatures that died that you might live.</p>
<p>While there is something to be said for entertainment and art, there is something much more pressing to be said for starvation and malnutrition. It doesn&#8217;t matter that this is &#8220;merely&#8221; a small issue in a sea of larger troubles, it is a poor argument that sat that those who see this sort of cuisine as wasteful are simply killjoys or are overly serious.</p>
<p>Yes, if I had to choose one thing to fix about the world, it wouldn&#8217;t be this. It would be something much more important, like shifting unthinkable amounts of resource expendature away from systematized killing and toward improving quality of life for all. But that doesn&#8217;t mean this sort of activity is any more innocent or harmless, in and of itself.</p>
<p>~D. Walker</p>
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		<title>By: jjsaul</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like an astounding experience of a tremendously creative artwork/performance.  Just your description expands my perspective of what&#039;s possible.

So I don&#039;t agree in the slightest with the haters.  I would have thought the vegetarian hamburger experiments alone would have illustrated the social utility of the experimentation, if any excuse for experience were so needed, considering the externalities of beef production impact on both environmental resources and indigenous populations.  But perhaps that would have required one to read the whole post prior to outraged bleating.

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like an astounding experience of a tremendously creative artwork/performance.  Just your description expands my perspective of what&#8217;s possible.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t agree in the slightest with the haters.  I would have thought the vegetarian hamburger experiments alone would have illustrated the social utility of the experimentation, if any excuse for experience were so needed, considering the externalities of beef production impact on both environmental resources and indigenous populations.  But perhaps that would have required one to read the whole post prior to outraged bleating.</p>
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		<title>By: arbitraryaardvark</title>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk52YkSV8PE
video of the talk.
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/planet-green/39319-future-food-gastronomic-geniuses-video.htm
a 5 minute blurb
http://www.5min.com/Video/Foods-of-the-Future-Molecular-Gastronomy-326745973</description>
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video of the talk.<br />
<a href="http://videos.howstuffworks.com/planet-green/39319-future-food-gastronomic-geniuses-video.htm" rel="nofollow">http://videos.howstuffworks.com/planet-green/39319-future-food-gastronomic-geniuses-video.htm</a><br />
a 5 minute blurb<br />
<a href="http://www.5min.com/Video/Foods-of-the-Future-Molecular-Gastronomy-326745973" rel="nofollow">http://www.5min.com/Video/Foods-of-the-Future-Molecular-Gastronomy-326745973</a></p>
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		<title>By: taghag</title>
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		<description>pretty cool, thanks for sharing!

i understand the perspectives of people who find this frivolous, etc, but i think they are missing the point a bit.  experimentation and playfulness are part of the human experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty cool, thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>i understand the perspectives of people who find this frivolous, etc, but i think they are missing the point a bit.  experimentation and playfulness are part of the human experience!</p>
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		<title>By: arbitraryaardvark</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzouXAY1BnI&amp;feature=related
grow your own biofuel and nori, make plastic at home.</description>
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grow your own biofuel and nori, make plastic at home.</p>
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		<title>By: TheCrawNotTheCraw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049222</link>
		<dc:creator>TheCrawNotTheCraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They sprinkled it with some &quot;magic pixie dust&quot; that converts the watermelon&#039;s sweet taste into a savory taste. Then they dipped it into liquid nitrogen to &quot;sear&quot; it.&quot;

I always said, a kitchen is just not a kitchen unless it has magic pixie dust and liquid nitrogen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They sprinkled it with some &#8220;magic pixie dust&#8221; that converts the watermelon&#8217;s sweet taste into a savory taste. Then they dipped it into liquid nitrogen to &#8220;sear&#8221; it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I always said, a kitchen is just not a kitchen unless it has magic pixie dust and liquid nitrogen.</p>
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		<title>By: regeya</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1050247</link>
		<dc:creator>regeya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, basically, you&#039;re a big f&#039;in hypocrite.

Seriously, if you&#039;re a chef, you&#039;re a big f&#039;in hypocrite.

Or are you a cook?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, basically, you&#8217;re a big f&#8217;in hypocrite.</p>
<p>Seriously, if you&#8217;re a chef, you&#8217;re a big f&#8217;in hypocrite.</p>
<p>Or are you a cook?</p>
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		<title>By: regeya</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1050251</link>
		<dc:creator>regeya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply must have the secret to that &quot;hamburger&quot;.  I have to watch my cholesterol but so deeply desire throwing a raw patty on the grill or in a pan, and watching the thing fry, and, finally, eat it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply must have the secret to that &#8220;hamburger&#8221;.  I have to watch my cholesterol but so deeply desire throwing a raw patty on the grill or in a pan, and watching the thing fry, and, finally, eat it.</p>
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		<title>By: sam1148</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049263</link>
		<dc:creator>sam1148</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there is a lot of theater and presentation in &quot;Modernist&quot; food...it is theater and experience. Just like a concert or any other event you pay big bucks for the experience. 

But on the home cooking side, it has opened up simple things and techs for the home cook for discussion and exploration. Such as adding a touch of baking soda to dried beans that have difficulty getting soft while cooking. Which is an old tech really, but still shows a more awareness of chemistry of cooking. 

My favorite is adding 1/2 tsp of unflavored gelatin in 1/2 cup of stock to an all beef meatloaf..the gel helps hold the moisture and replaces the fat normally found higher fat ground beef and the pork in traditional meatloaf. (or meatballs). 

For thanksgiving I used a gel of pineapple and iota carrageenan to make a heat stable gel for a baked ham. It didn&#039;t melt on the hot ham, but melted in your mouth. 

No bacon on a sling, or fussy presentation. It&#039;s just another tool in the kitchen you can use. 

Kitchens and foods have always been one of the forefronts of using innovative items to preserve, transform, and technology for cooking, from the invention of beer, cheeses, bread, preserving foods, refrigeration, Baking Powder, Ovens, ect..etc. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there is a lot of theater and presentation in &#8220;Modernist&#8221; food&#8230;it is theater and experience. Just like a concert or any other event you pay big bucks for the experience. </p>
<p>But on the home cooking side, it has opened up simple things and techs for the home cook for discussion and exploration. Such as adding a touch of baking soda to dried beans that have difficulty getting soft while cooking. Which is an old tech really, but still shows a more awareness of chemistry of cooking. </p>
<p>My favorite is adding 1/2 tsp of unflavored gelatin in 1/2 cup of stock to an all beef meatloaf..the gel helps hold the moisture and replaces the fat normally found higher fat ground beef and the pork in traditional meatloaf. (or meatballs). </p>
<p>For thanksgiving I used a gel of pineapple and iota carrageenan to make a heat stable gel for a baked ham. It didn&#8217;t melt on the hot ham, but melted in your mouth. </p>
<p>No bacon on a sling, or fussy presentation. It&#8217;s just another tool in the kitchen you can use. </p>
<p>Kitchens and foods have always been one of the forefronts of using innovative items to preserve, transform, and technology for cooking, from the invention of beer, cheeses, bread, preserving foods, refrigeration, Baking Powder, Ovens, ect..etc. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049269</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve eaten at moto.  It was an amazing experience.  Our tasting menu included the Cuban cigar.  It was delicious.  It think that&#039;s important.  It was delicious.

Eating dinner is like entertainment.  Usually I just watch tv at home.  Sometimes we go out for a movie.  Every once in a while we see a play.  And sometimes, every few years, I like to go see a magic show.  Moto is a magic show.

I&#039;ve also eaten miracle berry, at a friend&#039;s place a few years ago.  It doesn&#039;t change smell, just taste.  Specifically, it translates sour directly to intense sweetness.  Have you ever drank orange juice just after you brushed your teeth?  Still smells like orange juice but feels bitter as poison on your tongue.  Like that only sweet instead of bitter, and it lasts for two hours.  If you try it, you&#039;ll find that lemon is the greatest food ever but be careful not to acid burn your mouth because you don&#039;t get the normal negative feedback.  It isn&#039;t practical in a restaurant because, as mentioned, it messes up wines, but I have been told it can do wonders for bad tequila. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve eaten at moto.  It was an amazing experience.  Our tasting menu included the Cuban cigar.  It was delicious.  It think that&#8217;s important.  It was delicious.</p>
<p>Eating dinner is like entertainment.  Usually I just watch tv at home.  Sometimes we go out for a movie.  Every once in a while we see a play.  And sometimes, every few years, I like to go see a magic show.  Moto is a magic show.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also eaten miracle berry, at a friend&#8217;s place a few years ago.  It doesn&#8217;t change smell, just taste.  Specifically, it translates sour directly to intense sweetness.  Have you ever drank orange juice just after you brushed your teeth?  Still smells like orange juice but feels bitter as poison on your tongue.  Like that only sweet instead of bitter, and it lasts for two hours.  If you try it, you&#8217;ll find that lemon is the greatest food ever but be careful not to acid burn your mouth because you don&#8217;t get the normal negative feedback.  It isn&#8217;t practical in a restaurant because, as mentioned, it messes up wines, but I have been told it can do wonders for bad tequila. </p>
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		<title>By: jennyg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049783</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it!  Playing with food &amp; tricking the senses at the same time. My kind of art.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049531</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all the people complaining about the immorality of &quot;playing with food&quot;: recent studies (from the University of Arizona) indicate that forty to fifty per cent of all food ready for harvest never gets eaten. Lots of this just rots away as surplus, gets thrown in the garbage or dumped after it expires. We live in a culture that mass produces hamburgers and sandwiches in thousands of production lines and just as quickly throws them into the garbage bin when it has been sitting unbought for more than 5 minutes.

So, roughly half of the food that gets produced gets thrown in the garbage, and you start complaining when some jokers fashion a sandwich into a cigar (that most definetely gets eaten) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the people complaining about the immorality of &#8220;playing with food&#8221;: recent studies (from the University of Arizona) indicate that forty to fifty per cent of all food ready for harvest never gets eaten. Lots of this just rots away as surplus, gets thrown in the garbage or dumped after it expires. We live in a culture that mass produces hamburgers and sandwiches in thousands of production lines and just as quickly throws them into the garbage bin when it has been sitting unbought for more than 5 minutes.</p>
<p>So, roughly half of the food that gets produced gets thrown in the garbage, and you start complaining when some jokers fashion a sandwich into a cigar (that most definetely gets eaten) ?</p>
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		<title>By: taj</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049533</link>
		<dc:creator>taj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had this mirakuru furuttsu (miracle fruit) in Japan. It was being flogged about 10 years ago to young women who like cakes and desserts, but want to watch their waistlines.

I then ate a thick slice of lemon, after sucking on the berry for a while. The lemon segments tasted exactly like lemon drops.  It was wonderful, and then it was enough. At first I thought I&#039;d eat a whole lemon, but really, who would want to eat a whole bag of lemon drops at a go? Very strange.

At any rate, the fad died out. I&#039;d forgotten all about miraculin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had this mirakuru furuttsu (miracle fruit) in Japan. It was being flogged about 10 years ago to young women who like cakes and desserts, but want to watch their waistlines.</p>
<p>I then ate a thick slice of lemon, after sucking on the berry for a while. The lemon segments tasted exactly like lemon drops.  It was wonderful, and then it was enough. At first I thought I&#8217;d eat a whole lemon, but really, who would want to eat a whole bag of lemon drops at a go? Very strange.</p>
<p>At any rate, the fad died out. I&#8217;d forgotten all about miraculin.</p>
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		<title>By: ysheth</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1050567</link>
		<dc:creator>ysheth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely silly. Do you want to punch video game producers in the face? How about handbag designers? How about writers of fiction?

These things dont directly contribute to fixing world problems. But they are a measure of wealth that we can afford. Sure, you can advocate world rights and work towards it, but hating extravagance to such a small degree (and even calling this that is a ridiculous hyperbolisation) is going too far.

And besides, these people wanted to innovate, and so they did. That ALONE should excuse any hate you would have had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely silly. Do you want to punch video game producers in the face? How about handbag designers? How about writers of fiction?</p>
<p>These things dont directly contribute to fixing world problems. But they are a measure of wealth that we can afford. Sure, you can advocate world rights and work towards it, but hating extravagance to such a small degree (and even calling this that is a ridiculous hyperbolisation) is going too far.</p>
<p>And besides, these people wanted to innovate, and so they did. That ALONE should excuse any hate you would have had.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Cantu still trying to copyright his recipes? What a joke. Wylie Dufresne is much more respectable, to me at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Cantu still trying to copyright his recipes? What a joke. Wylie Dufresne is much more respectable, to me at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049557</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching the TEDx talk on YouTube paints a better picture of the potential benefits such as improving appetite in cancer patients, overcoming third world food shortages, reducing sugar consumption (and thus obesity, etc.). Not to mention other advances in food technology that come out of their work.

Arguably this is an example of misleading reportage - an interesting &quot;colour supplement&quot; article that fails to convey the central point, leaving the reader with the impression that this is little more than the &quot;emperor&#039;s new clothes&quot;.

Until I watched the presentation my initial reaction was â€“ what a load of pretentious bollocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the TEDx talk on YouTube paints a better picture of the potential benefits such as improving appetite in cancer patients, overcoming third world food shortages, reducing sugar consumption (and thus obesity, etc.). Not to mention other advances in food technology that come out of their work.</p>
<p>Arguably this is an example of misleading reportage &#8211; an interesting &#8220;colour supplement&#8221; article that fails to convey the central point, leaving the reader with the impression that this is little more than the &#8220;emperor&#8217;s new clothes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Until I watched the presentation my initial reaction was â€“ what a load of pretentious bollocks.</p>
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		<title>By: apoxia</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2011/03/09/this-is-not-a-plate.html#comment-1049336</link>
		<dc:creator>apoxia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a miracle berry tablet and then a lemon. It really is fantastic. I think I ate a few lemon segments it was so tasty.</description>
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